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(Daily Mail)   Land Rover bursts into flames, vaporizing 7 story car park and 1,400 vehicles. Post apocalyptic pictures to the left, the source really being a Samsung Galaxy and other theories to right   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2018-01-01 08:14:15 PM  
Man, I always notice the typos after I post.. a sample of the Post apocalyptic pictures in the link:

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2018-01-01 08:22:08 PM  
Wish I could correct my headline to what I meant: 
.. the source real'ly' being a Samsung galaxy and other theories to 'the' right ..
 
2018-01-01 08:46:00 PM  
"vaporized"?
Well, I guess at a 1,000C  it could.
No., it's the MOL.
 
2018-01-01 09:15:11 PM  
CAR FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL!
 
2018-01-01 11:46:26 PM  
I'm guessing that won't buff out.
 
2018-01-01 11:57:34 PM  
Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.
 
2018-01-02 12:21:18 AM  
Carfax.
 
2018-01-02 12:34:53 AM  

felching pen: CAR FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL!


Came here for this. But they said aluminimunim, so there's that.
 
2018-01-02 01:27:28 AM  

dehler: Man, I always notice the typos after I post.. a sample of the Post apocalyptic pictures in the link:

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Better pop some Rad-X before wading into that. Also, beware the feral ghouls.
 
2018-01-02 01:29:21 AM  

felching pen: CAR FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL!


Sure but with the chem trails, who knows...
 
2018-01-02 01:32:34 AM  

jaylectricity: felching pen: CAR FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL!

Came here for this. But they said aluminimunim, so there's that.

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ALUMINUM CANNOT MELT STEEL, EITHER! GOOD NIGHT!
 
2018-01-02 01:37:32 AM  
No fire extinguishers and no sprinkler system in a high rise building.  Perhaps the UK should join the 21st century before dozens of people are killed in a disaster like this.
 
2018-01-02 01:42:32 AM  
I guess smugness really is flammable.
 
2018-01-02 01:44:42 AM  
Here's the Samsung proof you wanted, subby.
GTA 5 MOD - Samsung Galaxy Note 7 (Bomb)
Youtube _GhODn4FRoE
 
2018-01-02 01:51:21 AM  

Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.


The tires, oil, grease, the rubber hoses and belts, hydrogen gas (may not be a lot, but some) in the battery, the plastic outside bits and rubber bits..All that crap burns really well.Not to mention all the regular crap people keep in their cars. The heat buildup in the concrete probably made it nice and oven like and
cremated the cars.
 
2018-01-02 01:51:52 AM  

Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.


At that temp even aluminium starts to burn.
 
2018-01-02 01:52:36 AM  

Falmouthed Frankie: No fire extinguishers and no sprinkler system in a high rise building.  Perhaps the UK should join the 21st century before dozens of people are killed in a disaster like this.


Again. You mean again.
 
2018-01-02 01:54:33 AM  
A structure for the storage of hundreds of rolling petrol bombs and someone had a justification for not installing the sprinkler system.

Concrete cement melts below the melting point of steel.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-01-02 01:55:28 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.

The tires, oil, grease, the rubber hoses and belts, hydrogen gas (may not be a lot, but some) in the battery, the plastic outside bits and rubber bits..All that crap burns really well.Not to mention all the regular crap people keep in their cars. The heat buildup in the concrete probably made it nice and oven like and
cremated the cars.


Yes, I was wondering if convection? currents might have helped accelerate a hot mess, but damn, still...
 
2018-01-02 01:57:00 AM  
This is why you always get the Carmax warranty on your Land Rover.
 
2018-01-02 02:07:39 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.

The tires, oil, grease, the rubber hoses and belts, hydrogen gas (may not be a lot, but some) in the battery, the plastic outside bits and rubber bits..All that crap burns really well.Not to mention all the regular crap people keep in their cars. The heat buildup in the concrete probably made it nice and oven like and
cremated the cars.


Yeah, but enough to turn the whole structure into the towering inferno?  Could see one car going up (from whatever internal fault it was that started it) and maybe those next to it, but how does the fire migrate between floors?

That shocked me, that's all.  Not getting my tinfoil hat out.
 
2018-01-02 02:09:39 AM  
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2018-01-02 02:11:43 AM  

Man On Pink Corner: This is why you always get the Carmax warranty on your Land Rover.


We've found Doug DeMuro's fark handle.
 
2018-01-02 02:14:46 AM  
Wait, a British vehicle with an electrical problem? That's pretty unusual.

/yeah I know, really Indian
//which is sad
 
2018-01-02 02:14:55 AM  
This is why modern building codes no longer allow thermite as the primary construction material.
 
2018-01-02 02:21:22 AM  

Falmouthed Frankie: No fire extinguishers and no sprinkler system in a high rise building.  Perhaps the UK should join the 21st century before dozens of people are killed in a disaster like this.


A 10-year old structure at that. Are there no building safety codes in Liverpool?
 
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2018-01-02 02:30:58 AM  

Reasonable Human: Yeah, but enough to turn the whole structure into the towering inferno?  Could see one car going up (from whatever internal fault it was that started it) and maybe those next to it, but how does the fire migrate between floors?


There was a terrible and fatal subway fire in London years ago, and they found that the fire was accidentally fed oxygen by accidental/poor design (roughly).  It meant that once the place went up, there was no stopping it until the fuel was gone.

I'm wondering if something like that won't wind up being found out by the investigators, that a few flukes and a bad design won't wind up changing the way people build garages, or at least, reveal a fatal flaw that mandates fire suppression systems.
 
2018-01-02 02:31:59 AM  
A few thoughts:

• Car dealerships in that area are going to have a very good start to the new year.
• Insurance companies in that area are going to have a very bad start to the new year.
• If it turns out to be a Samsung device that torched this off, Samsung is never going to live this down.
• Despite temperatures enough to melt aluminum, the building still stands. Who would'a thunk it?
 
2018-01-02 02:50:58 AM  
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!  CANYONARO! WHOA! CANYONARO!
 
2018-01-02 02:55:21 AM  
Daily Mail doesn't even need a logo. You can always tell where you are when you've read through six recap paragraphs before the image captions pile on to remind you that sprinklers are good, aluminum can melt around 1,000C, and that people are flammable and would like to avoid such temperatures.
 
2018-01-02 03:01:56 AM  
I do miss my '98 Canyonero.
 
2018-01-02 03:08:27 AM  

Reasonable Human: Mr. Shabooboo: Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.

The tires, oil, grease, the rubber hoses and belts, hydrogen gas (may not be a lot, but some) in the battery, the plastic outside bits and rubber bits..All that crap burns really well.Not to mention all the regular crap people keep in their cars. The heat buildup in the concrete probably made it nice and oven like and
cremated the cars.

Yeah, but enough to turn the whole structure into the towering inferno?  Could see one car going up (from whatever internal fault it was that started it) and maybe those next to it, but how does the fire migrate between floors?

That shocked me, that's all.  Not getting my tinfoil hat out.


Open sides and fewer walls because it is a parking structure means ample oxygen flowing in to support combustion.  If it had walls, there may have been a chance to confine it to a single floor but because the sides were open and ramps, it acts as a giant chimney with the ramps up transferring heat and above and below so the entire structure eventually goes. Because of the intensity, it makes it very difficult to fight as you don't want to send people in so you basically are containing it with hoses from the outside. Given the heat damage potentially to the rebar in the concrete as shown near the roof in the picture, the entire structure may have to come down.
 
2018-01-02 03:32:06 AM  
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I assume this was caused by yet another Lucas electrical system failure, right?
 
2018-01-02 04:06:05 AM  
Dog's like "NO!!! I just paid for that car!!!"

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2018-01-02 04:32:20 AM  

rekabis: Despite temperatures enough to melt aluminum, the building still stands. Who would'a thunk it?


Yeah, what's different about steel embedded inside thick concrete structural beams & wide open steel trusses or joists with a fluffy coating of retardant?
 
2018-01-02 04:41:41 AM  
Depending on the extent of the heat damage to the concrete, they may have to level that structure and completely rebuild.
 
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2018-01-02 04:53:39 AM  

ShowStop: Depending on the extent of the heat damage to the concrete, they may have to level that structure and completely rebuild.


I'm going to guess that the garage where a fire occurred that incinerated 1400 vehicles will be torn down.
 
2018-01-02 04:58:55 AM  

rekabis: Despite temperatures enough to melt aluminum, the building still stands. Who would'a thunk it?


I'm not a civil engineer, or a fire investigator but I suspect the cause and outcome of a fire is not decided by tabloid hyperbole.

Rather it would have to do with the individual characteristics of the building, the height of the building, the location and spread of the fire, the sustained heat intensity at critical, load bearing points, the fire suppression system, the manner in which the blaze was tackled and how quickly it was put out.
 
2018-01-02 05:14:11 AM  

Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.


dozens of old McDonalds wrappers,  old car park tickets, pizza delivery flyers, coupons, unopened mail, a bag of stuff meant for the clothes bank, since before christmas [I assume all other cars are exactly like my own]
 
2018-01-02 05:26:55 AM  
Are they sure there wasn't something else involved..
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2018-01-02 05:28:21 AM  

Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.


Electrical wiring, stairs, elevators, lights, various types of metal, maybe some plastic, paint, etc.
 
2018-01-02 05:32:58 AM  
How the hell can concrete catch on fire?

Bad architecture
 
2018-01-02 06:06:35 AM  

rekabis: • Insurance companies in that area are going to have a very bad start to the new year.


It being Liverpool, there will be at least 3,000 claims for cars destroyed in the fire. Meanwhile, a good time to buy a cheap car with rather smudged paperwork from a bloke in the pub.
 
2018-01-02 06:07:49 AM  

Reasonable Human: Mr. Shabooboo: Reasonable Human: Question:  other than the cars interiors and their fuel, what is there to burn in a concrete multi-storey car park?

Not going to click TFA.

The tires, oil, grease, the rubber hoses and belts, hydrogen gas (may not be a lot, but some) in the battery, the plastic outside bits and rubber bits..All that crap burns really well.Not to mention all the regular crap people keep in their cars. The heat buildup in the concrete probably made it nice and oven like and
cremated the cars.

Yeah, but enough to turn the whole structure into the towering inferno?  Could see one car going up (from whatever internal fault it was that started it) and maybe those next to it, but how does the fire migrate between floors?

That shocked me, that's all.  Not getting my tinfoil hat out.


Fire migrates up pretty well. It generally does not migrate down. Thus why you see an bicycle and the wooden entry gate untouched by the flames on the first floor, and utter devastation only meters above. The plume from a car fire can easily top 20 feet in the air, and when it runs into an obstacle (like the ceiling) the hot gasses spread to the sides, looking for any way up. Think of a hot mass of plasma and gasses that is running like water, only upwards.

/me Models shipboard fires
 
2018-01-02 06:12:18 AM  

Daedalus27: If it had walls, there may have been a chance to confine it to a single floor but because the sides were open and ramps, it acts as a giant chimney with the ramps up transferring heat and above and below so the entire structure eventually goes.


Simpler than that, I think. You can see in a couple of the pictures that there are holes in the floor where the concrete has been destroyed by fire. So after Level N in nicely alight, you start applying a flamethrower to the underside of cars on Level N+1. Boom. Level N+2. Boom. Level N+3. Boom ...
 
2018-01-02 06:28:12 AM  
Did anyone read about the stupid tw*t who left her dogs in a car so she could go out for a meal?
I'm not one of those idiots that smashes car windows to let dogs out (and probably into traffic) when the owner goes into a shop for a few minutes. But this woman deserves a slap. If you're going out for a meal its understood you'll be away from the dogs for at least an hour if not note. Wtf did she decide to leave her four large dogs in a small cramped vehicle for hours whilst she went to feed?
 
2018-01-02 06:41:35 AM  

bekovich: Did anyone read about the stupid tw*t who left her dogs in a car so she could go out for a meal?
I'm not one of those idiots that smashes car windows to let dogs out (and probably into traffic) when the owner goes into a shop for a few minutes. But this woman deserves a slap. If you're going out for a meal its understood you'll be away from the dogs for at least an hour if not note. Wtf did she decide to leave her four large dogs in a small cramped vehicle for hours whilst she went to feed?


A dog can wait for you in your car for an hour without harm in the winter.
 
2018-01-02 06:49:33 AM  
What is it with Land Rovers and catching on fire? Ive seen a couple car-b-ques on the sides of 95 and elsewhere around Baltimore/DC and they more often than not, its a Land Rover. Maybe i just have some weird form of luck, or maybe its a message from on high?
 
2018-01-02 07:00:54 AM  

gregscott: bekovich: Did anyone read about the stupid tw*t who left her dogs in a car so she could go out for a meal?
I'm not one of those idiots that smashes car windows to let dogs out (and probably into traffic) when the owner goes into a shop for a few minutes. But this woman deserves a slap. If you're going out for a meal its understood you'll be away from the dogs for at least an hour if not note. Wtf did she decide to leave her four large dogs in a small cramped vehicle for hours whilst she went to feed?

A dog can wait for you in your car for an hour without harm in the winter.


Can and should are worlds apart
 
2018-01-02 07:06:31 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: dehler: Man, I always notice the typos after I post.. a sample of the Post apocalyptic pictures in the link:

[img.fark.net image 850x479][View Full Size image _x_]

Better pop some Rad-X before wading into that. Also, beware the feral ghouls.


But if you lob a frag grenade under one it will cause the others to explode in gorgeous chain reaction, solving your ghoul problem
 
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