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(BGR)   Millions of Americans got scissors for Christmas ... and are using it to cut their cable cord   ( bgr.com) divider line
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2018-01-01 07:37:50 AM  
Unrelated, my coworker says "a scissor", as in "do you have a scissor I can use?". Drives me nuts.
 
2018-01-01 08:01:03 AM  
Since I get no English-speaking broadcast channels (out of range), I've never seriously considered cord cutting.  Seems to me, to have it be successful, you have to have screaming fast internet, and receivers that will handle it (for example, my cable TV box has Netflix and Youtube built in, but not Hulu or Amazon Prime).

Plus I've been frustrated trying to stream live events, especially sports.  Many streams are sketchy, and may lag several minutes behind real life, which ruins the whole Fark viewing thread experience.

YouTube's new subscription program looks promising.  $35 for what equals a basic cable package: Major networks and several common cable channels like USA.  But I'm feeling like by  the time I pay for good internet, plus YouTube, plus Netflix plus HBO subscriptions, I'm going to be paying about as much as I am already.  Plus, with Net Neutrality being killed, who knows what it'll mean for consumers.
 
2018-01-01 08:18:04 AM  

itsdan: Unrelated, my coworker says "a scissor", as in "do you have a scissor I can use?". Drives me nuts.


I have an otherwise brilliant coworker who says "liberry" instead of "library."
 
2018-01-01 08:25:35 AM  
10 years ago I moved into an apartment that had cable. I paid for the minimum but they didn't filter it so I got all the premium channels. After about 2 months I was caught up on everything. Then I learned how to stream and cut the cord.

Now where we live I get 20 OTA channels which suits us fine. We watch a lot of MeTV or MOVIES! channel and stream the Steelers/Penguins games. I use a cheap $10.00 indoor antenna because my wannabe HOA doesn't allow roof antennas, excepting Dish. That's against FCC rules but you pick your battles.

I'm hoping there's gonna be a work-around if my streaming gets cut because of the Net Neutrality ruling.
 
2018-01-01 08:25:38 AM  
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2018-01-01 08:30:20 AM  
Or it could be that people are cutting the cord because

1. It's getting even more expensive... again this year

2. If you can barely afford necessities, cable doesn't seem so important.

3. Less people are watching sportsball games.  Without sportsball games, the immediacy for seeing TV right now fades.

/Just a thought
//or two
//definitely not 3 as I can't afford 3 spare thoughts
 
2018-01-01 08:34:23 AM  

Earguy: Seems to me, to have it be successful, you have to have screaming fast internet, and receivers that will handle it (for example, my cable TV box has Netflix and Youtube built in, but not Hulu or Amazon Prime).


When I had 6Mbps service I watched HD movies without complaint.

For a receiver you need only a Roku stick or equivalent.
 
2018-01-01 08:35:17 AM  
Luckily for the cable companies, they are now free to make the internet suck just as bad.  So they have that going for them, which is nice.
 
2018-01-01 08:45:15 AM  

doomjesse: Or it could be that people are cutting the cord because

1. It's getting even more expensive... again this year

2. If you can barely afford necessities, cable doesn't seem so important.

3. Less people are watching sportsball games.  Without sportsball games, the immediacy for seeing TV right now fades.

/Just a thought
//or two
//definitely not 3 as I can't afford 3 spare thoughts


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2018-01-01 08:46:27 AM  
Or, in the case of Trump supporters, running with them.
 
2018-01-01 08:47:12 AM  
I got a scissors

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2018-01-01 08:48:18 AM  

itsdan: Unrelated, my coworker says "a scissor", as in "do you have a scissor I can use?". Drives me nuts.

late Middle English: from Old French cisoires, from late Latin cisoria, plural of cisorium 'cutting instrument,' from cis-, variant of caes-, stem of caedere 'to cut.' The spelling with sc- (16th century) was by association with the Latin stem sciss- 'cut.'


It drive you nuts that he wants only one cutting instrument?

"Pair of pants" drives me nuts. It's been hundreds of years since pants came in two pieces that you pulled up one leg at a time and laced together.  Shirts have always been of one piece, so we've never referred to pairs of sleeves.
 
2018-01-01 08:51:11 AM  
Given how liberal fix news has become, it makes no sense for me to keep cable when I can find more balanced news outlets on the internet.
 
2018-01-01 08:52:49 AM  
I got tired of paying $175 a month basically for hgtv, which was the only thing my wife watched, and maybe twice a month at that.
 
2018-01-01 08:53:11 AM  
I realized I didn't want to cut the cord the other day when I sat down and turned on the TV and I caught Almost Famous just when Russell and William go to that party in Topeka, which is immediately followed by the "Tiny Dancer" scene. I still like stumbling on my favorite movies like that.

/And also the sports.
 
2018-01-01 08:53:47 AM  

jaytkay: Earguy: Seems to me, to have it be successful, you have to have screaming fast internet, and receivers that will handle it (for example, my cable TV box has Netflix and Youtube built in, but not Hulu or Amazon Prime).

When I had 6Mbps service I watched HD movies without complaint.

For a receiver you need only a Roku stick or equivalent.


Speed isn't the problem, consistent speed is the problem.  I had no trouble streaming while I lived alone in the Arizona desert, 15 miles from the terrestrial microwave tower that provided my 1.5 Mbps.  But now, on a Comcast 75 Mbps cable shared with three other people, everything sucks except in the wee hours when the others are asleep.
 
2018-01-01 08:55:33 AM  
Cut cable a year ago. Going with Apple TV and the Playstation Vue app, plus Hulu, Amazon Prime and Netflix. I don't think I miss a thing, except the insane prices.
 
2018-01-01 08:55:35 AM  
I'm 51, have cable TV and just re-upped it for another year.

Of course, that's because Comcast actually pays me to take some channels- they give me a $10/month discount off of Internet service if I get the local channels and HBO.  Every year I call to cancel it when the promo deal runs out, and every year they give me some new, weird deal.  The instant I can get base internet without the clutter for less they're gone.
 
2018-01-01 08:59:23 AM  
I pay about $12/month for basic cable. Unfortunately my internet service through the same provider is then 6-7 times that.

On a related note, has anyone experienced messed up size/aspect ratio on the YouTube Roku channel on a Roku 2XS with a 4:3 TV, since about mid-December? It may have started after an update either to the Roku or to the channel.
 
2018-01-01 09:00:39 AM  
 9 years without cable now. I use to watch football. Now when I see it at a friends house (rarely) it's painful to watch because it's so farking tedious.

I have never regretted leaving cable.
 
2018-01-01 09:01:45 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: It drive you nuts that he wants only one cutting instrument?

"Pair of pants" drives me nuts. It's been hundreds of years since pants came in two pieces that you pulled up one leg at a time and laced together. Shirts have always been of one piece, so we've never referred to pairs of sleeves.


Imperfect plurals don't adhere to the more general rules of grammar but their specific rules beat the general rules.
 
2018-01-01 09:04:00 AM  
I think some of the cord cutting from older people if deciding that there is not enough on cable TV to justify the price.  So they settle for over-the-air TV and internet and steaming.  They may miss some shows, but in the end, missing those shows is not the end of their world.  Plus, often if you wait a year, you can see entire seasons on DVD.
 
2018-01-01 09:04:04 AM  
I refer to sports as "sportsball".  It's a cool thing I do.
 
2018-01-01 09:08:08 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: itsdan: Unrelated, my coworker says "a scissor", as in "do you have a scissor I can use?". Drives me nuts.

late Middle English: from Old French cisoires, from late Latin cisoria, plural of cisorium 'cutting instrument,' from cis-, variant of caes-, stem of caedere 'to cut.' The spelling with sc- (16th century) was by association with the Latin stem sciss- 'cut.'

It drive you nuts that he wants only one cutting instrument?

"Pair of pants" drives me nuts. It's been hundreds of years since pants came in two pieces that you pulled up one leg at a time and laced together.  Shirts have always been of one piece, so we've never referred to pairs of sleeves.


Was that ever actually a thing?

Regardless, it's a pair of pants, pair of trousers, pair of panties, whatever.

What drives me nuts is* f*ckwits who can't get this distinction.

On the other hand, I eventually got over the fact that in English, we now use short billions, so I'm sure I can get over this, too.

*the steering wheel attached to my penis.
 
2018-01-01 09:08:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I refer to sports as "sportsball".  It's a cool thing I do.


This guy gets it.
 
2018-01-01 09:10:33 AM  
"The interesting data point here is the very dramatic and very significant uptick in the number of older viewers - those aged 50-59 - who have started watching TV on the internet in the last year."

Why does everyone find it surprising when people of this age group use technology like computers and video games? This is the age group that basically pioneered both of those for home use. I ditched TV and started using online streaming and Netflix DVD service about 10 years ago, long before "cutting the cord" was even a thing.
 
2018-01-01 09:11:31 AM  
Fark TV.
 
2018-01-01 09:23:14 AM  

Demetrius: I got a scissors

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Peppermint Patty and Marcie?  Or is that wrong scissors?
 
2018-01-01 09:23:44 AM  
Unless you get all your Internet over cell signals, your internet goes bye-bye and takes all your streaming with it when you start cutting cords. Such a stupid phrase.
 
2018-01-01 09:24:31 AM  

runwiz: I think some of the cord cutting from older people if deciding that there is not enough on cable TV to justify the price.  So they settle for over-the-air TV and internet and steaming.  They may miss some shows, but in the end, missing those shows is not the end of their world.  Plus, often if you wait a year, you can see entire seasons on DVD.


Soooo.... what your saying is Baby Boomers are killing cable TV ?
 
2018-01-01 09:26:18 AM  
It's the bullshiat fees.

$8 regional sports fee. $6.50 broadcast TV fee. $1 FCC regulatory recovery fee. On top of paying $80 a month to get channels that aren't all a rehash of Telemundo or QVC.

People want to watch quality programming, and are figuring out that they don't even need a TV subscription to do so.
 
2018-01-01 09:32:17 AM  

Earguy: Since I get no English-speaking broadcast channels (out of range), I've never seriously considered cord cutting.  Seems to me, to have it be successful, you have to have screaming fast internet, and receivers that will handle it (for example, my cable TV box has Netflix and Youtube built in, but not Hulu or Amazon Prime).

Plus I've been frustrated trying to stream live events, especially sports.  Many streams are sketchy, and may lag several minutes behind real life, which ruins the whole Fark viewing thread experience.

YouTube's new subscription program looks promising.  $35 for what equals a basic cable package: Major networks and several common cable channels like USA.  But I'm feeling like by  the time I pay for good internet, plus YouTube, plus Netflix plus HBO subscriptions, I'm going to be paying about as much as I am already.  Plus, with Net Neutrality being killed, who knows what it'll mean for consumers.


A Roku box costs like 2-3 weeks worth of cable bill.  As for sports, that can definitely be a deal breaker if you can't get OTA, but it depends on what you're looking for and how much it matters.

But yeah, if you're getting one of the cable-replacement packages, I don't see much of a point.  Unless you are lucky enough to have a good price on an internet connection that wasn't from a cable company.
 
2018-01-01 09:34:52 AM  
I never had a cord to cut, and I'm glad. About half of mail this year was some comm company or another begging me to 'lock in' $30/30/30 when bundled!* plus state fee, comm fee, fark you fee, just because fee, and why not another fee ** (typical fee total comparative to a 3-series bmw and just as reliable).

Maybe they get to mail for free or something, but if not, I bet they could offer a better priced service if they weren't spamming every residence every other day with this crap.

/bummed Sunny got pulled from Netflix
//and disappointed about the Amazon/youtube drama
///golden age of streaming is over, but I'm still not going to get cable
 
2018-01-01 09:37:09 AM  
Of course, in a whole lot of areas, the cable company is also the high speed internet provider.
So they are going to get their share of the coin, one way or another.
 
2018-01-01 09:37:49 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Or, in the case of Trump supporters, running with them.


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2018-01-01 09:40:12 AM  

itsdan: BarkingUnicorn: It drive you nuts that he wants only one cutting instrument?

"Pair of pants" drives me nuts. It's been hundreds of years since pants came in two pieces that you pulled up one leg at a time and laced together. Shirts have always been of one piece, so we've never referred to pairs of sleeves.

Imperfect plurals don't adhere to the more general rules of grammar but their specific rules beat the general rules.


This is about the archaic use of "pair," not the "s" tacked on "scissor."
 
2018-01-01 09:44:44 AM  
There are many good shows on TV but TV is just entertainment.  It is not life or death.  I enjoy many shows but my life will not be horribly empty if I miss them.
 
2018-01-01 09:52:25 AM  

jso2897: Of course, in a whole lot of areas, the cable company is also the high speed internet provider.
So they are going to get their share of the coin, one way or another.


That is my story right now but I am signed up for LightSpeed service due to be installed in February.  For now, I will drop Comcast to the base service since they jacked up the costs again this month.

/cable companies are killing cable.  They can't blame anyone else.
 
2018-01-01 09:53:29 AM  
I've got two OTA tuner cards plus a DVB-S2 card in my computer. There's also a tuner box for OTA and FTA (free-to-air satellite). The antenna nets us 20ish channels (most importantly Rocky Mountain PBS and Create) while the dish gets us NHK World, PBS East/West, Create, World, Montana PBS, and First Nations Experience. With a little tweak I should soon be able to get Louisiana PBS and its subchannels. There's plenty to DVR and watch later.
 
2018-01-01 09:53:37 AM  
One if the things you notice after you've cut out cable and radio for a while is jarring, frequent and obnoxious all the ads were.  The trade off is I'm often out of touch with the entertainment industry's latest offerings, so win win eh?
 
2018-01-01 09:56:22 AM  
I get about 10 over the air channels with a $20 antenna. That plus a high-ish speed connection with Netflix and HBO (a man needs his dragon binge) is still cheaper than a moderate cable package from the provider.
 
2018-01-01 10:02:09 AM  
The internet-based replacements, like Sling or YouTube are either too limited or too expensive. Sling is essentially $20/month for ESPN, so Fark them. YouTube is $35 and nothing they have seems all that compelling.

What needs to happen is for someone to offer team-based packages without any restrictions (blackouts). That'll pretty much kill cable.
 
2018-01-01 10:03:08 AM  

BumpInTheNight: One if the things you notice after you've cut out cable and radio for a while is jarring, frequent and obnoxious all the ads were.  The trade off is I'm often out of touch with the entertainment industry's latest offerings, so win win eh?


I live way out in the sticks and was happy I could get wireless broadband about 7 years ago.  Once I figured out how to find streaming sites, in addition to Netflix, I never looked back.  The only time I tune into OTA broadcasting is for severe weather coverage.  I get funny looks from people who make reference to whatever the latest humorous commercial is on TV.

Them: "What do you mean you've never seen the commercial about X?  It's on ALL THE TIME."
Me: "I watch my shows via streaming."
Them:  quizzical look

The best (worst) part is we are all IT people, yet very few of my peers have figured out how to get by without cable TV.
 
2018-01-01 10:07:45 AM  

Victor's Ghost: 10 years ago I moved into an apartment that had cable. I paid for the minimum but they didn't filter it so I got all the premium channels. After about 2 months I was caught up on everything. Then I learned how to stream and cut the cord.

Now where we live I get 20 OTA channels which suits us fine. We watch a lot of MeTV or MOVIES! channel and stream the Steelers/Penguins games. I use a cheap $10.00 indoor antenna because my wannabe HOA doesn't allow roof antennas, excepting Dish. That's against FCC rules but you pick your battles.

I'm hoping there's gonna be a work-around if my streaming gets cut because of the Net Neutrality ruling.


If you're getting 20 OTA channels off a cheap indoor antenna, you're in a place most people aren't. The FCC rules might not apply the same to you because you have access to all channels without needing something up on the roof (of course, if there's a single additional channel you could receive with a roof antenna, the FCC rule would apply in full).

As for picking battles: I agree. For this specific issue, homeowners are best to simply install the antenna. The HOA can't make you fill out a single form to request permission to do the install. They can't assess a fee, either. Let the HOA pick the fight; in nearly all cases, they will go to the HOA attorney to draft the 'stern letter' and will learn then they are out of bounds. If they skip the attorney and take any action, simply refer to the FCC rule. You won't end up in court: the HOA would have to find an attorney who wants an increase in his insurance premiums.
 
2018-01-01 10:13:51 AM  

nytmare: Unless you get all your Internet over cell signals, your internet goes bye-bye and takes all your streaming with it when you start cutting cords. Such a stupid phrase.


But with modern technology, is it not better for backwards shiatholes to be wireless?

Skipping the whole laying cable part of the internet should make it more accessible, no?

That's how the third world is gaining internet access these days, why not Bumf*ck, Alabama?
 
2018-01-01 10:25:19 AM  

Gary-L: I live way out in the sticks and was happy I could get wireless broadband about 7 years ago. Once I figured out how to find streaming sites, in addition to Netflix, I never looked back. The only time I tune into OTA broadcasting is for severe weather coverage. I get funny looks from people who make reference to whatever the latest humorous commercial is on TV.

Them: "What do you mean you've never seen the commercial about X? It's on ALL THE TIME."
Me: "I watch my shows via streaming."
Them: quizzical look

The best (worst) part is we are all IT people, yet very few of my peers have figured out how to get by without cable TV.


I guess I'm fortunate that my team is mostly on the same page about streaming.  We're also all savvy enough to acquire any content that isn't available through netflix or hulu etc so we can still water-cooler about the latest HBO show etc, on tuesday though, because some of us are slower then others at getting that sunday night episode of game of thrones.
 
2018-01-01 10:25:27 AM  
Pay-for-streaming will be the new cable in 10 years. Cable companies are going to love it. They'll be able to charge actual content providers a fee to stream content through "their" tubes and it'll be passed on to consumers. So they get more money for less work.

/The perfect business model is giving the consumer nothing and getting paid for it.
//Cable isn't there, but they're getting pretty close.
 
2018-01-01 10:30:31 AM  
I've been cable free for about a decade.  Now that I have kids the best parts that I didn't fully appreciate initially are the ad-free and intentional viewing experience.  Cost a small secondary benefit.

When the older kid sees an advertisement when rarely watching an over the air show, his reaction is "wtf is this shiat, bring back my show!". The amount that they aren't being marketed to is great.

The other thing is that streaming forces you to be intentional.  You don't just park it on the discovery channel to watch a neat documentary and then leave it there and next thing you know you're watching real housewives of ice road trucker pickers.
 
2018-01-01 10:32:16 AM  

ajgeek: Pay-for-streaming will be the new cable in 10 years. Cable companies are going to love it. They'll be able to charge actual content providers a fee to stream content through "their" tubes and it'll be passed on to consumers. So they get more money for less work.


That would be awesome.  We've been asking for a-la-carte for decades.

Unless you think they will just be applying their bundling model to streaming, in which case that's not going to happen for the exact same reason that it stopped working for their current services.
 
2018-01-01 10:32:45 AM  

BumpInTheNight: One if the things you notice after you've cut out cable and radio for a while is jarring, frequent and obnoxious all the ads were.  The trade off is I'm often out of touch with the entertainment industry's latest offerings, so win win eh?


That...like, I didn't recognize a single song or artist from the best music of 2017 thread yesterday...

I also would like to kill whoever decided to put that "All The Way Up" Mtn Dew commercial on so many channels to be played every damn commercial break.  I might watch 3 hours of cable tv a week with family....I've seen or heard that commercial a few hundred times in the past few weeks to the point it makes me stabby (also why I have adfree Hulu).

Tactics like that is also killing the cable industry.  With Hulu compared to cable, I watch the same damn shows with the same annoying commercials, but at least I can pay Hulu to opt out of commercials versus paying more to receive them from the cable company.

Paying the ad fee is worth it for no Flo, geckos, the car named Brad, Drive Time, ALL THE WAY UP, a movie trailer that's basically a spoiler for the entire movie, pills, cath and diabeetus supplies...
 
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