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2018-01-01 04:08:28 AM  
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2018-01-01 05:13:15 AM  
But at least Cardinal Law died.
 
2018-01-01 05:14:43 AM  
Lighten up.
 
2018-01-01 05:18:01 AM  
Wars, injustice, rich guys stealing... Aw man, he's just reusing laments from the last 37 years.
 
2018-01-01 05:20:08 AM  
Pope needs to shut the fark up.
 
2018-01-01 05:22:59 AM  

HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.


Lighten up, Francis.
 
2018-01-01 05:23:55 AM  

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2018-01-01 05:24:30 AM  
fark that guy and his pedophile followers.
 
2018-01-01 05:32:00 AM  

HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.


From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.
 
2018-01-01 05:33:29 AM  

LincolnLogolas: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.


By "anyone" he means his ultra-right wing nazi pals.
 
2018-01-01 05:43:51 AM  
Shut up, virgin!
 
2018-01-01 05:46:28 AM  
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2018-01-01 05:49:45 AM  
"The wars are the flagrant sign of this repeated and absurd pride," he said. "But so are all the little and big offenses against life, truth, brotherhood, that cause multiple forms of human, social and environmental degradation."

That is a lot to package in one sentence. In an interview I would like to pick apart which wars and which offenses in particular mean something to him.
 
2018-01-01 06:07:09 AM  
Thanks for the 411, Poop.
 
2018-01-01 06:13:51 AM  

HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.


Lol please elaborate?
 
2018-01-01 06:19:34 AM  

Cpl.D: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

Lighten up, Francis.


I enjoy it when farkers have the guts to be all biatchy and intense about their hatred of sacred cows.
I don't want him to lighten up.
I want him to indulge me with a long, pissy rant about everything he hates about the catholic church and religion in general. I hope he'll even read it aloud and send it to me as a sound-file so I can listen to it like a bedtime story while i tuck meself in!
:)
 
2018-01-01 06:22:29 AM  

LincolnLogolas: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.


He's entitled to say he thinks someone should stfu.
That's just stating an opinion. It would only be oppression if he followed it up with a genuine attempt to silence the pope through force or coercion.
 
2018-01-01 06:23:33 AM  

Smoking GNU: LincolnLogolas: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.

By "anyone" he means his ultra-right wing nazi pals.


Well that escalated quickly.
 
2018-01-01 06:25:24 AM  

berylman: "The wars are the flagrant sign of this repeated and absurd pride," he said. "But so are all the little and big offenses against life, truth, brotherhood, that cause multiple forms of human, social and environmental degradation."

That is a lot to package in one sentence. In an interview I would like to pick apart which wars and which offenses in particular mean something to him.


I read it as all of them. But you're probably right. Every body's got an agenda.
 
2018-01-01 06:28:02 AM  
Happy New Year.  Here are some calendars of note...
 
2018-01-01 06:39:38 AM  

rustyfark: Smoking GNU: LincolnLogolas: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.

By "anyone" he means his ultra-right wing nazi pals.

Well that escalated quickly.


They're not joking, and not wrong. Dude's a Nazi sympathizer and a shiat posting troll. Highlight / tag him and you'll catch on to his schtick in a hurry.
 
2018-01-01 06:39:47 AM  
Is he still perpetuating the invisible sky man myth while helping to hoard enough wealth to feed all the worlds poor?
 
2018-01-01 06:49:08 AM  
"rich guys" who aren't the Catholic Church "stealing" instead of coercing with threats of eternal damnation "all the money" that could be going to the Vatican.
 
2018-01-01 06:57:18 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: Happy New Year.  Here are some calendars of note...

Ha! Happy New Year to you as well Poet Laureate of Fark, I zonked at 10:30pm.
 
2018-01-01 07:11:20 AM  
Him and his organization can do a lot to fix the ills of the world. More so than a lot of us.
 
2018-01-01 07:16:33 AM  

berylman: bigfatbuddhist: Happy New Year.  Here are some calendars of note...
Ha! Happy New Year to you as well Poet Laureate of Fark, I zonked at 10:30pm.


I tried staying up to watch one of The Thin Man movies, but I definitely didn't make it either.  I DID hear what sounded like enemy shelling of my position at around midnight, though...
 
2018-01-01 08:13:30 AM  
After a brief scan of the way fxnws reports on the pope. I thought I would take a trip through "their" headlines. Fascinating. Still bashing HC, for some unknown reason. Critics of the trump administration are hysterical. As well as claiming a new Tom Hanks movie is a liberal pathetic fixation on a  Republican corruption investigation. (Watergate)

// might have selected a better photo of the pope.
/// Wonder at the obvious vitriol aimed at anything progressive.
//// Feel the need to cleanse me of right-wing propaganda.
 
2018-01-01 08:15:32 AM  

groppet: Him and his organization can do a lot to fix the ills of the world. More so than a lot of us.


They have more than enough gold and expensive things that they could sell off and practice what they preach.

Growing up in Catholic school, I remember my mom basically telling off a priest. The gist was, "I drive around and see many of you have cable in your homes, so don't tell me you can't give more to the church." My mom said, "you drive around in a car that is newer than most of us can afford to judge us? Get rid of the cable in the rectory and practice what you expect the rest of us to do. I have three kids, and this is the family's form of entertainment since we don't have money to go to movies or out to nice dinners, and you won't tell me what to do and not do in my own home when you enjoy the same things."

He kind of... stopped arguing along those lines. 

If you have ever been in a local rectory? They have nice stuff. Before my first marriage, I had to go in there and meet the priest. He interviewed me and my ex separately, making one wait in the dining room. They had a liquor cabinet that looked like a store of top-shelf everything....Johnny Walker in all the colors, high-end vodka and tequila and expensive wines, so on and so forth. Really nice china and crystal in the cabinet. A gorgeous chandelier. Heavy, velvet drapes. An embroidered tablecloth. Fine furniture. And that was just what I could see. Vow of poverty, my ass. Not that I think they should eat gruel and have no comforts (nobody should be denied comforts) but hey, you could tone it down a bit, no?
 
2018-01-01 09:05:59 AM  

serpent_sky: groppet: Him and his organization can do a lot to fix the ills of the world. More so than a lot of us.

They have more than enough gold and expensive things that they could sell off and practice what they preach.

Growing up in Catholic school, I remember my mom basically telling off a priest. The gist was, "I drive around and see many of you have cable in your homes, so don't tell me you can't give more to the church." My mom said, "you drive around in a car that is newer than most of us can afford to judge us? Get rid of the cable in the rectory and practice what you expect the rest of us to do. I have three kids, and this is the family's form of entertainment since we don't have money to go to movies or out to nice dinners, and you won't tell me what to do and not do in my own home when you enjoy the same things."

He kind of... stopped arguing along those lines. 

If you have ever been in a local rectory? They have nice stuff. Before my first marriage, I had to go in there and meet the priest. He interviewed me and my ex separately, making one wait in the dining room. They had a liquor cabinet that looked like a store of top-shelf everything....Johnny Walker in all the colors, high-end vodka and tequila and expensive wines, so on and so forth. Really nice china and crystal in the cabinet. A gorgeous chandelier. Heavy, velvet drapes. An embroidered tablecloth. Fine furniture. And that was just what I could see. Vow of poverty, my ass. Not that I think they should eat gruel and have no comforts (nobody should be denied comforts) but hey, you could tone it down a bit, no?


I've been in several rectories and none of them were in any way opulent.  They were tidy and clean but smelled vaguely of incense which makes me nauseous.
 
2018-01-01 09:16:46 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I've been in several rectories and none of them were in any way opulent.  They were tidy and clean but smelled vaguely of incense which makes me nauseous.


At least they showered first. Next time, you can let them know perfume isn't needed. But remember, always wrap it up before entering rectories.
 
2018-01-01 09:25:45 AM  

Toxophil: rustyfark: Smoking GNU: LincolnLogolas: HumanSVD: Pope needs to shut the fark up.

From your profile: Believe what you want or don't believe in whatever religion, just don't silence anyone.

By "anyone" he means his ultra-right wing nazi pals.

Well that escalated quickly.

They're not joking, and not wrong. Dude's a Nazi sympathizer and a shiat posting troll. Highlight / tag him and you'll catch on to his schtick in a hurry.


Lol no shiat? I've only seen a few of his posts today and none of them had a real nazi-vibe. But they weren't very controversial threads.

You reminded me of something though. I lurked fark for a long time before joining,and it seems like the "regulars" change their handles or create new accounts every so often. Have you noticed this? Whattup wit dat?
 
2018-01-01 09:25:54 AM  
No one commented yet on how the accompanying pic wasn't exactly a good look for a catholic priest...?

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2018-01-01 09:32:18 AM  

serpent_sky: groppet: Him and his organization can do a lot to fix the ills of the world. More so than a lot of us.

They have more than enough gold and expensive things that they could sell off and practice what they preach.

Growing up in Catholic school, I remember my mom basically telling off a priest. The gist was, "I drive around and see many of you have cable in your homes, so don't tell me you can't give more to the church." My mom said, "you drive around in a car that is newer than most of us can afford to judge us? Get rid of the cable in the rectory and practice what you expect the rest of us to do. I have three kids, and this is the family's form of entertainment since we don't have money to go to movies or out to nice dinners, and you won't tell me what to do and not do in my own home when you enjoy the same things."

He kind of... stopped arguing along those lines. 

If you have ever been in a local rectory? They have nice stuff. Before my first marriage, I had to go in there and meet the priest. He interviewed me and my ex separately, making one wait in the dining room. They had a liquor cabinet that looked like a store of top-shelf everything....Johnny Walker in all the colors, high-end vodka and tequila and expensive wines, so on and so forth. Really nice china and crystal in the cabinet. A gorgeous chandelier. Heavy, velvet drapes. An embroidered tablecloth. Fine furniture. And that was just what I could see. Vow of poverty, my ass. Not that I think they should eat gruel and have no comforts (nobody should be denied comforts) but hey, you could tone it down a bit, no?


There's a core conflict between faith and worship, in my mind.  Faith brings people together, forges communities, and can (when we're not arguing over contradictions between different people's faiths) bring people together.  Worship, on the other hand, fosters relatively little of the humility it's supposed to, and isntead raises up the Church above the people of whom it should consist.  Nobody will think a clapboard shack is worthy of worship, even if it's perfectly fine to pray there.  People only feel comfortable worshipping surrounded by lacquered wood, carved marble, and gold.  And worship is what brings the cash.

It's the same reason that otherwise-supposedly-humble-and-genero​us secular charities send representatives to fundraisers and meetings in thousand-dollar suits or Gucci heels with gold watches and designer handbags.  Nobody wants to give money to someone in a t-shirt and jeans.  But they carry it too far, because it's an excuse to do what we all want - to live opulently.  It's a temptation and eventually everyone gives in.

The Vatican is an entire country, albeit a small one - with an opulent standard of living - that produces exactly nothing toward the world economy.  It's entirely supported by the generosity of Catholics.  There's something wrong with that in essence, in my opinion.  At least most monastic orders historically lived with humble means and produced something in demand - scripture, alcohol, food of some sort, or other goods or services.  If your church doesn't produce or provide stuff or services people need commensurate with what it earns and its "lifestyle", find a new church.
 
2018-01-01 09:32:38 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: berylman: bigfatbuddhist: Happy New Year.  Here are some calendars of note...
Ha! Happy New Year to you as well Poet Laureate of Fark, I zonked at 10:30pm.

I tried staying up to watch one of The Thin Man movies, but I definitely didn't make it either.  I DID hear what sounded like enemy shelling of my position at around midnight, though...


That's awesome. I'm a big fan of staying home to watch dvds, but for some reason my favorite time to stay home is on holidays when I know EVERYBODY is expected to be out partying. I hide out from holidays like I'm hiding out from the enemy in a war. And I love it.
 
2018-01-01 09:45:48 AM  

Pending Review: After a brief scan of the way fxnws reports on the pope. I thought I would take a trip through "their" headlines. Fascinating. Still bashing HC, for some unknown reason. Critics of the trump administration are hysterical. As well as claiming a new Tom Hanks movie is a liberal pathetic fixation on a  Republican corruption investigation. (Watergate)

// might have selected a better photo of the pope.
/// Wonder at the obvious vitriol aimed at anything progressive.
//// Feel the need to cleanse me of right-wing propaganda.


I feel your pain. I spent last december and january with staying with some relatives I hadn't seen for twenty years. They completely hid from me the fact that in that time they had become FoxNews FANATICS,until I arrived. Then it was like two months of the most aggressive,manipulative attempts to convert me into their white-supremacist cult. I'm not even exaggerating, they were 100% BATshiat.
The whole time I was there,the television was never tuned to anything but FoxNews, except for once a day when it went over to... Judge farking Judy.
It's been a year now and it still makes me shudder to think about it.
 
2018-01-01 09:49:24 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I've been in several rectories and none of them were in any way opulent. They were tidy and clean but smelled vaguely of incense which makes me nauseous.


I really think it depends on the area/parish. Growing up, they were definitely living well above the norm for the area.. my mom was really active with stuff around the school (which was attached to the church) so I saw it pretty young. The one I was in with my ex husband, who was rich on his own... it was probably living like most people around there, but... that's not in line with the vow of poverty.  That said, it seems like Catholic churches in the US, and around the world, vary wildly from parish to parish - it's impossible, it seems, to paint the church with broad strokes. I think I had some incredibly negative experiences, and overdone, opulent churches that I am sure Jesus would have disapproved of. I don't get the sense the Pope approves of that sort of thing - and I gather he has never been one to choose the gold and pomp that often comes with Catholic priesthood, but even if he is the head of the church, it doesn't seem they are all following his example.
 
2018-01-01 09:58:54 AM  

rustyfark: bigfatbuddhist: berylman: bigfatbuddhist: Happy New Year.  Here are some calendars of note...
Ha! Happy New Year to you as well Poet Laureate of Fark, I zonked at 10:30pm.

I tried staying up to watch one of The Thin Man movies, but I definitely didn't make it either.  I DID hear what sounded like enemy shelling of my position at around midnight, though...

That's awesome. I'm a big fan of staying home to watch dvds, but for some reason my favorite time to stay home is on holidays when I know EVERYBODY is expected to be out partying. I hide out from holidays like I'm hiding out from the enemy in a war. And I love it.


My son gave me Baby Driver for Christmas.  That, I did get through, yesterday.  A pretty good movie although the Kevin Spacey scenes take on new significance...
 
2018-01-01 10:32:08 AM  

Frankly Speaking: fark that guy and his pedophile followers.


So if 10% of RC clergymen diddle kids, let's shut down all religious-based communities, the human need for connection be damned, but if 10% or more of atheistic plutocrats like the ones who work for, bankroll or advertise on Fox News rape kids or adults, then booyah Adam Smith/Ayn Rand Akhbar.
 
2018-01-01 11:37:46 AM  
Feh, a handful of crosseyed marys'll get you out from under that bus.
 
2018-01-01 11:42:41 AM  
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2018-01-01 11:49:41 AM  
Did he say that from his golden chair? In the golden Basilica? In the golden Vatican City?

You and your organization ARE those rich guys, fark you.
 
2018-01-01 12:10:36 PM  
Unless he was also apologizing for the him and Vatican protecting endless numbers of child molesters, he can STFU.
 
2018-01-01 12:15:44 PM  
So the Republican platform then.
 
2018-01-01 02:34:57 PM  

serpent_sky: groppet: Him and his organization can do a lot to fix the ills of the world. More so than a lot of us.

They have more than enough gold and expensive things that they could sell off and practice what they preach.

Growing up in Catholic school, I remember my mom basically telling off a priest. The gist was, "I drive around and see many of you have cable in your homes, so don't tell me you can't give more to the church." My mom said, "you drive around in a car that is newer than most of us can afford to judge us? Get rid of the cable in the rectory and practice what you expect the rest of us to do. I have three kids, and this is the family's form of entertainment since we don't have money to go to movies or out to nice dinners, and you won't tell me what to do and not do in my own home when you enjoy the same things."

He kind of... stopped arguing along those lines. 

If you have ever been in a local rectory? They have nice stuff. Before my first marriage, I had to go in there and meet the priest. He interviewed me and my ex separately, making one wait in the dining room. They had a liquor cabinet that looked like a store of top-shelf everything....Johnny Walker in all the colors, high-end vodka and tequila and expensive wines, so on and so forth. Really nice china and crystal in the cabinet. A gorgeous chandelier. Heavy, velvet drapes. An embroidered tablecloth. Fine furniture. And that was just what I could see. Vow of poverty, my ass. Not that I think they should eat gruel and have no comforts (nobody should be denied comforts) but hey, you could tone it down a bit, no?


Since your two experiences, and going to a Catholic school make you such an expert, then you know that there is no vow of poverty for priests right? You also know that each parish is it's own corporation, run by a finance committee and council, and the spending is public? Priests are given a monthly personal stipend (for things like stocking that liquor cabinet) and furnishings for the home would generally be bought by the parish council or specific spending approved by them.  Not that there aren't some nice rectories out there, but usually they are like that because wealthy parishioners go out of their way to make a nice household for the priests of their parish.  Since priests are almost always moved every 5 to 10 years they typically just inherit what was there before them. I've been in a couple of dozen rectories, in a few different countries.  Never once have I seen what you described.
 
2018-01-01 03:41:35 PM  

Mellifluous: No one commented yet on how the accompanying pic wasn't exactly a good look for a catholic priest...?

Came for this...maybe the baby Jeebus did too...
 
2018-01-01 03:47:49 PM  
He should do something about it. He could start by excommunicating Paul Ryan, who is contributing to a lot of the misery of America's poor.
 
2018-01-01 04:39:11 PM  

GypsyJoker: He should do something about it. He could start by excommunicating Paul Ryan, who is contributing to a lot of the misery of America's poor.


Wait is Paul Ryan catholic? That would be a boss move popie. Please do it. What the hell are you there for anyways?
 
2018-01-01 08:38:42 PM  
The Pontiff lamented the greedy rich from his golden throne the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran.
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2018-01-02 12:40:55 AM  

berylman: GypsyJoker: He should do something about it. He could start by excommunicating Paul Ryan, who is contributing to a lot of the misery of America's poor.

Wait is Paul Ryan catholic? That would be a boss move popie. Please do it. What the hell are you there for anyways?


Ryan considers himself a devout Catholic. Several years ago, a group of nuns went around protesting his warped understanding of Catholicism as one of his bullshiat budgets began gaining traction in the house:

From 2013.
 
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