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2017-12-30 08:24:49 AM  
Neither as pleasant nor as life-prolonging as daily masturbation, in other words.
 
2017-12-30 08:28:34 AM  
 
2017-12-30 09:00:37 AM  
Vitamins turns your urine darker and removes money from your wallet. Apart from that? Not much.
 
2017-12-30 09:01:27 AM  
As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.
 
2017-12-30 09:11:17 AM  
I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.
 
2017-12-30 09:16:13 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Neither as pleasant nor as life-prolonging as daily masturbation, in other words.


Wait, life prolonging?

/gonna live forever
 
2017-12-30 09:32:05 AM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.


I have vitamin deficiencies but only take specifically what my labs say is low.

Calcium is a biatch to keep up, even when taking D, magnesium and K2.
 
2017-12-30 09:48:07 AM  
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Has a definite iron deficiency.
 
2017-12-30 10:02:31 AM  
And Leicester already in the board.
 
2017-12-30 10:03:23 AM  
Karius showing why he is the backup keeper
 
2017-12-30 10:41:03 AM  

SpaceyCat: As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.


Yep. The excessive B12 in Centrum Men 50+ gave me horrible neuropathy in my feet last year. My blood levels for B12 were off the chart.  Doc had me stop taking them and it went away after a few weeks.
 
2017-12-30 10:45:00 AM  
Vitamins C and E help you eat more bacon.
 
2017-12-30 10:50:55 AM  
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2017-12-30 10:59:42 AM  
I mean, I don't take a vitamin because I eat a varied diet and don't think it's necessary, but just because taking vitamin d and calcium didn't prevent bone fractures in old people that took ten any more than ones that didn't means they're worthless across the board? That seems rather sensationalist. There's been a lot of studies which show calcium, iron, vitamin c, and d deficincies are very bad and if a multivitamin is how you get those, take the stupid thing.
 
2017-12-30 11:08:06 AM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.


Vitamin B makes it a cool color though.
 
2017-12-30 11:25:27 AM  
Garlic pills keeps my bad cholesterol in check. Cheaper than a prescription.
 
2017-12-30 11:41:30 AM  

AngryDragon: MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.

Vitamin B makes it a cool color though.


B2, specifically. Makes my pee look like ink from a yellow highlighter.

I take vitamin supplements about five times a week and have my blood chemistry checked every 3 to 6 months.

It would be nice if the blood workups were less expensive. I have to go in to get a Testosterone booster every two weeks. It would be nice to get blood work done each time I came in-- just to keep a closer eye on things.
 
2017-12-30 11:53:17 AM  
When I first learned about a vitamin B12 deficiency, through googling the weird metallic smell of my own poop.
 
2017-12-30 12:03:40 PM  

GardenWeasel: SpaceyCat: As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.

Yep. The excessive B12 in Centrum Men 50+ gave me horrible neuropathy in my feet last year. My blood levels for B12 were off the chart.  Doc had me stop taking them and it went away after a few weeks.


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B12 is water soluble - as long as you were hydrating properly I'm not sure how you can have too much of it...
 
2017-12-30 12:10:13 PM  

Gubbo: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Neither as pleasant nor as life-prolonging as daily masturbation, in other words.

Wait, life prolonging?

/gonna live forever

Ass much as I hate Oasis:

Oasis - Live Forever - Official Video
Youtube i_2mWhfOhGU


/ not that much of a jackass that it starts at the beginning.
 
2017-12-30 12:16:22 PM  
Vitamins. How do they work.

/ why yes, I did hit the "s" on the keyboard one too many times last post.
// the main reason I take vitamins is because they come out in my semen
/// there are a lot of vitamin deficient women out there
 
2017-12-30 12:22:42 PM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Gubbo: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Neither as pleasant nor as life-prolonging as daily masturbation, in other words.

Wait, life prolonging?

/gonna live forever
Ass much as I hate Oasis:

[YouTube video: Oasis - Live Forever - Official Video]

/ not that much of a jackass that it starts at the beginning.


Calling you a jackass for not starting it at the beginning. Had to press the phone twice to get the whole song :)
 
2017-12-30 12:42:23 PM  
IF you eat a perfectly balanced diet, including lots of 'fresh' fruit and vegetables flown in from South America and Australia this time of year. I can afford vitamins, I can't afford a perfect diet. Also, a high fiber diet gives me severe diarrhea, which leads to deficiencies of many nutrients.

/not going to eat liver every day to deal with my anemia.
 
2017-12-30 12:44:20 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.

I have vitamin deficiencies but only take specifically what my labs say is low.

Calcium is a biatch to keep up, even when taking D, magnesium and K2.


I had no idea you could train dogs to do that.
 
2017-12-30 01:11:53 PM  

gaslight: Vitamins turns your urine darker and removes money from your wallet. Apart from that? Not much.


Well, if you're healthy, and have a healthy diet.

There's illnesses that can cause you to have difficulty extracting vitamins from food, or you can lead an unhealthy lifestyle.

I think the article is dangerous, because its well, clickbait. Taking vitamins is not harmful, but not taking them can be dangerous for a lot of people. Telling people not to take vitamins, without providing any context, will cause deaths.

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Ever wondered why some foods are "fortified"? That's why.
 
2017-12-30 01:17:03 PM  
No matter how many of these studies are published, still not worth an argument with the wife so the kids will still keep getting their gummy vitamins.

boring csb:

My mother had me taking like 3 horsepill-status supplements every morning when I was growing up, so being a lazy child I taught myself how to swallow them without having to pour a glass of water.

Fast forward to my early 20s, said mother notices me pop an advil dry, and she has a literal nervous breakdown because "the only people who can do that are druggies!"

/boring csb
 
2017-12-30 01:31:47 PM  
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2017-12-30 01:34:20 PM  

OptionC: GardenWeasel: SpaceyCat: As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.

Yep. The excessive B12 in Centrum Men 50+ gave me horrible neuropathy in my feet last year. My blood levels for B12 were off the chart.  Doc had me stop taking them and it went away after a few weeks.

quizzical dog.jpg

B12 is water soluble - as long as you were hydrating properly I'm not sure how you can have too much of it...


It's excess B6 that causes neuropathy, not B12.
 
2017-12-30 01:34:53 PM  
Chew on this awhile...
B.E. Taylor - Vitamin L (MTV2)
Youtube qwZhk-hPhew
 
2017-12-30 01:37:26 PM  
snake oil salesmen, the lot of them.
 
2017-12-30 01:51:27 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: OptionC: GardenWeasel: SpaceyCat: As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.

Yep. The excessive B12 in Centrum Men 50+ gave me horrible neuropathy in my feet last year. My blood levels for B12 were off the chart.  Doc had me stop taking them and it went away after a few weeks.

quizzical dog.jpg

B12 is water soluble - as long as you were hydrating properly I'm not sure how you can have too much of it...

It's excess B6 that causes neuropathy, not B12.


Dunno... I just double checked and the lab tests were for B12
 
2017-12-30 02:02:54 PM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Gubbo: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Neither as pleasant nor as life-prolonging as daily masturbation, in other words.

Wait, life prolonging?

/gonna live forever
Ass much as I hate Oasis:

[YouTube video: Oasis - Live Forever - Official Video]

/ not that much of a jackass that it starts at the beginning.


Queen - Who Wants To Live Forever (Official Video)
Youtube _Jtpf8N5IDE
 
2017-12-30 02:32:03 PM  
GardenWeasel:
It's excess B6 that causes neuropathy, not B12.

Dunno... I just double checked and the lab tests were for B12


Most vitamin B is in a complex, so taking too much B6 would probably result in a high B12 reading.

If you don't need them, don't take them. Some people DO need them.
Calcium - to prevent osteoporosis and counteract the sapping from my birth control
Vitamin D - because the sun doesn't get up high enough for the skin to make it, and it's too cold to bare skin even if i did.
Vitamin B - to prevent dry eyes and give energy. They don't put megadoses in energy drinks just to spend money.
Potassium - to keep from becoming dehydrated from pissing away all the water in my system
 
2017-12-30 02:36:13 PM  

flemardo: SecretAgentWoman: MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.

I have vitamin deficiencies but only take specifically what my labs say is low.

Calcium is a biatch to keep up, even when taking D, magnesium and K2.

I had no idea you could train dogs to do that.


They are good labs, flemardo.
 
2017-12-30 02:51:28 PM  
Fish oil because I like eating fish, but hate preparing fish, so I don't get enough. Keeps my good cholesterol where the doc wants it.

Magnesium pill about every couple of days. Fit for fat, hydrated or not I have problems with calf cramps. It's been the only thing that makes them go away, and theres only so much spinach and nuts a man can eat.

Other than that it's a prescription strength anihistamine, and a baby aspirin because strokes run in the family.
 
2017-12-30 03:25:48 PM  
Adam Ruins Everything - The Weird Reason We Think Vitamins Are Good for Us (They're Not)
Youtube 29v6rNFjlLI
 
2017-12-30 04:28:28 PM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.


Flat earthers have been saying shiat for 20 years too. I doesn't matter what crap you spew out of your mouth if you didn't do an experiment.
 
2017-12-30 04:43:27 PM  
The only one I had to take for a while was vitamin D.  Started having issues when that one dropped (and I got rid of most of the milk in my diet when I started eating better).  Got the levels back up, readjusted my diet, and now I don't need the pills anymore.

There's good reason to take them, but talk to your doc and go over your blood tests after a physical.  Most of it can be fixed without the expense of vitamin pills.
 
2017-12-30 05:22:22 PM  

wademh: [i.pinimg.com image 236x177]
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I'd say you're hip, hip, hip, and away you go!
 
2017-12-30 06:02:53 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: MAJ Ethanolic: I've been saying this for 20 years now - the only thing vitamins help/cure is a vitamin deficiency.  Beyond that it's just expensive urine.

I have vitamin deficiencies but only take specifically what my labs say is low.

Calcium is a biatch to keep up, even when taking D, magnesium and K2.


I'll assume you've done your research, but just in case - are you aware of calcium uptake antagonists? i.e. don't eat anything rich in oxalic acid at the same time as calcium, etc.
 
2017-12-30 06:07:50 PM  
I take vitamins because I don't have a good diet. Make good food cheaper and then I wouldn't have to.

/Article is shiat
// TL:DR Study says that this one very specific thing this one very specific vitamin is supposed to do doesn't, therefore everything is bad.
///Also, there are no regulations, which is actually a bad thing.
 
2017-12-30 06:08:42 PM  

natazha: IF you eat a perfectly balanced diet, including lots of 'fresh' fruit and vegetables flown in from South America and Australia this time of year. I can afford vitamins, I can't afford a perfect diet. Also, a high fiber diet gives me severe diarrhea, which leads to deficiencies of many nutrients.

/not going to eat liver every day to deal with my anemia.


Goat meat is higher in iron than lamb or beef, and not nearly as much saturated fat. Tends to need more preparation, but goat curry - homer-drool.jpg.

Pity I have the opposite problem - elevated iron levels, so red meats are a no-no.
 
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2017-12-30 08:26:00 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: wademh: [i.pinimg.com image 236x177]
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I'd say you're hip, hip, hip, and away you go!


I'd like to add to that this:

Scrubs Songs - 'Underdog' by The Blanks [HQ] - Season1 Episode23
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2017-12-30 08:45:44 PM  
That said, a specific supplements may be beneficial to add to a healthy diet depending on your individual health situation. To find out if you need one, talk to your doctor.


The only thing of value from FTA.  What you do or do not need additional amounts of (or less of) is entirely conditional based upon your eating habits(be honest), health conditions, potential genetic issues, etc.  Let your doctor run tests, and let them give recommendations according to the results.
 
2017-12-30 09:26:45 PM  
many years ago, i read that taking fat soluble vitamins is harmful.
 
2017-12-30 09:30:59 PM  

GardenWeasel: SecretAgentWoman: OptionC: GardenWeasel: SpaceyCat: As the article says, unless you have a specific health need and have had a doctor tell you to take a vitamin/supplement, they're probably not going to do much of anything for you.  Some vitamins are toxic/deadly if taken too often/high doses.

Yep. The excessive B12 in Centrum Men 50+ gave me horrible neuropathy in my feet last year. My blood levels for B12 were off the chart.  Doc had me stop taking them and it went away after a few weeks.

quizzical dog.jpg

B12 is water soluble - as long as you were hydrating properly I'm not sure how you can have too much of it...

It's excess B6 that causes neuropathy, not B12.

Dunno... I just double checked and the lab tests were for B12


I'm a bit doubtful that you are remembering this correctly.  Normally your kidney's will remove any excess b12, and if that isn't the case then it may be indicative of a more serious problem.  That isn't caused by the b12, rather the elevated b12 is indicative of an issue.  Now by contrast look at why you don't want low levels.  Your liver can store some too - but only methylcobalamin.  Centrum - and almost all regular store bought vitamins - use cheaper cyanocobalamin.  Only after converting it (releasing a tiny amount of cyanide) can your body use/store it.  Your kidneys are especially quick to filter that junk so very little gets converted.

And the b12 levels present in Centrum really aren't excessive as you think.  The Daily recommended values are... mostly garbage.  We really need to re-study these things.  The even more elevated levels you see in others supplements are that way because cyanocobalamin is removed so fast that it takes obscene amounts to hope the body converts more of it before being pissed out.  It isn't medically useful at raising low B12 levels.  Just cheaper so pick any other form (if advised by a doctor).  Hydroxocobalamin is commonly injected in this case.

A more possible concern (maybe where you got mixed up?) is folic acid - a synthetic vitamer of folate (b9).  That's fine for some people, and some people it really isn't.  People with certain MTHFR mutations might not be able to convert it - think of combining a slightly defective key with a slightly defective lock.  You'd probably be fine with only one, but not both.  Elevated levels of folic acid can indeed partially mask b12 deficiency but exasperate other issues.  What's more, the US has long required Folic Acid supplementation in flour-containing foods, so you might be getting more of this than you think.

In any case, ask your doctor to clear this up, and follow their advise.  Get it in writing so you don't forget.
 
2017-12-31 08:32:02 AM  
The study published in December was done in China. Vitamin D deficiency is common in Europeans. People really need to think before they write articles. I ran a study in Russia today, and it turns out sickle cell anemia is imaginary.
 
2017-12-31 11:51:29 AM  
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As long as you get plenty of R.
 
2017-12-31 02:32:57 PM  
The people that take vitamin supplements care about their health--and thus generally eat an adequate diet in the first place so they don't need them.
 
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