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(Digital Trends)   World's first nuclear fusion reactor about halfway done. It'll be 10 times as hot as the sun supplying unlimited power, ultra fast marshmallow roasting   ( digitaltrends.com) divider line
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2017-12-26 08:09:37 PM  
Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now. Second, nice to see it's not in the US, thanks Trump, Traitor-in-Chief (tm).
 
2017-12-26 08:11:20 PM  
... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not
 
2017-12-26 08:18:16 PM  

lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not


Reminds me of a line from a book that is otherwise pretty optimistic about technological progress in the near future:

New with the decade are cheap enhanced immune systems, brain implants that hook right into the Chomsky organ and talk to their owners through their own speech centers, and widespread public paranoia about limbic spam. Nanotechnology has shattered into a dozen disjoint disciplines, and skeptics are predicting that it will all peter out before long. Philosophers have ceded qualia to engineers, and the current difficult problem in AI is getting software to experience embarrassment. Fusion power is still, of course, fifty years away.
 
2017-12-26 08:48:14 PM  
So, turning the earth into a short term binary with the sun or the crust gets breached and the earth becomes a liquid hot magma sea. Don't these guys read science fiction!?!
 
2017-12-26 08:53:52 PM  
Anyone interested in my perpetual motion machine?

It involves piping Fox & Friends into the graves of the Founding Fathers.
 
2017-12-26 10:26:17 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Anyone interested in my perpetual motion machine?

It involves piping Fox & Friends into the graves of the Founding Fathers.


That actually could work
 
2017-12-27 12:38:26 AM  
A warm light for all mankind to share.
 
2017-12-27 12:44:14 AM  

MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now.


Yes, but now it's only ten years off.
 
2017-12-27 01:17:48 AM  
There's two kinds of plasma:
 
2017-12-27 01:54:02 AM  
Its not the first reactor, we achieved controlled fusion decades ago.

Its hoping to be the first that will be large , efficient, and stable enough to be used as a commercial powerplant.
 
2017-12-27 02:11:35 AM  

edmo: MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now.

Yes, but now it's only ten years off.


It isn't because fusion is unreachable, it's because they decided not to fund it in lieu of more oil and coal plants.Guess farking why.

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2017-12-27 02:21:14 AM  
First!?

You can build that shiat at home for 10k
 
2017-12-27 02:27:58 AM  
When completed, the plasma circulating in the core of the reactor will be 270 million degrees Fahrenheit

meh.
 
2017-12-27 03:18:26 AM  

crinz83: When completed, the plasma circulating in the core of the reactor will be 270 million degrees Fahrenheit

meh.


What's that, like 103 centigrade?
 
2017-12-27 03:35:17 AM  
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Oh, I'm afraid it will be quite operational when your friends arrive.
 
2017-12-27 03:43:23 AM  
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Is this really a good idea, considering what occurred last time?
 
2017-12-27 03:44:10 AM  

lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not


Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.
 
2017-12-27 03:51:32 AM  

Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.


We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.
 
2017-12-27 04:03:48 AM  

Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.


The cold fusion claims we're fun to watch crash and burn.
 
2017-12-27 04:12:41 AM  

Pinner: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

The cold fusion claims we're fun to watch crash and burn.


It's easy, really, to do it at home - it just doesn't produce net energy output.

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2017-12-27 04:17:06 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: Pinner: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

The cold fusion claims we're fun to watch crash and burn.

It's easy, really, to do it at home - it just doesn't produce net energy output.

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Yeah, I tried but my gauge was messed up. Kept sticking at 11psi
Threw the whole thing away.
 
2017-12-27 04:17:51 AM  
get this kid to work on it
https://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconduct​o​rs/devices/the-high-school-student-who​s-building-his-own-integrated-circuits​

itcamefromschenectady: Pinner: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

The cold fusion claims we're fun to watch crash and burn.

It's easy, really, to do it at home - it just doesn't produce net energy output.

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2017-12-27 04:20:43 AM  

crinz83: When completed, the plasma circulating in the core of the reactor will be 270 million degrees Fahrenheit

meh.


Or, in lay terms, "summer in Phoenix".
 
2017-12-27 05:03:45 AM  

Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.


Oh, I agree, it's been in development for decades and I've read a lot about it over the years but nobody has really pushed for it to become reality. Molten salt reactors have been in development since the 60s but
Three Mile Island and Chernobyl demonized nuclear power in general without people knowing the difference between fission and fusion reactors. I lived less than sixty miles from TMI in '79 and the entire region freaked out at the time.
 
2017-12-27 05:11:28 AM  
Twenty years ago I thought they were saying it was 50 years away.
 
2017-12-27 06:55:12 AM  

Greybrd: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Oh, I agree, it's been in development for decades and I've read a lot about it over the years but nobody has really pushed for it to become reality. Molten salt reactors have been in development since the 60s but
Three Mile Island and Chernobyl demonized nuclear power in general without people knowing the difference between fission and fusion reactors. I lived less than sixty miles from TMI in '79 and the entire region freaked out at the time.


This is it exactly. The general public which consists of idiots has swallowed every story there is about how bad anything nuclear is.  Fission and fusion are both nuclear so they are both going to irradiate our kids, give us all cancer, and create three eyed fish.

And of course in matters of science the average politician makes the average person knowledgeable.
 
2017-12-27 08:29:58 AM  

crinz83: When completed, the plasma circulating in the core of the reactor will be 270 million degrees Fahrenheit

meh.


Hot enough to burn off the atmosphere of entire planet in 8 seconds...

Made up science fiction scenario? Of course it is!
 
2017-12-27 08:34:21 AM  
I had a burrito mondo grande last night and I'm pretty damn sure it started a fusion reaction in my gut. No harmful side effects? WRONG!
 
2017-12-27 08:46:49 AM  
Meanwhile my toroidial coal furnace is keeping me toasty warm.

/published principal author of a peer-reviewed fusion reactor design
//no really
 
2017-12-27 09:00:05 AM  

MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now. Second, nice to see it's not in the US, thanks Trump, Traitor-in-Chief (tm).


The US has their own fusion project that works on a different principle. It's got nothing to do with Trump.
 
2017-12-27 09:05:37 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now. Second, nice to see it's not in the US, thanks Trump, Traitor-in-Chief (tm).

The US has their own fusion project that works on a different principle. It's got nothing to do with Trump.


Right, that's why my first sentence said "I've been hearing this for about 30 years now."The second sentence is noting that the US is going to be quickly left behind because of the actions of Republicans in general and Trump specifically.
 
2017-12-27 09:13:26 AM  
Is it located on Skull Island? A power plant the produces unlimited power from a nuclear reaction sounds like something that should be on a Skull Island, Isla de Muerta or Nomanisan
 
2017-12-27 09:23:13 AM  

Cpl.D: edmo: MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now.

Yes, but now it's only ten years off.

It isn't because fusion is unreachable, it's because they decided not to fund it in lieu of more oil and coal plants.Guess farking why.

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The other problem is that the past decade gotten steadily cheaper to tap into energy output of the big working fusion reactor in the sky.
 
2017-12-27 09:58:44 AM  

Bucky Katt: NewportBarGuy: Anyone interested in my perpetual motion machine?

It involves piping Fox & Friends into the graves of the Founding Fathers.

That actually could work


Install new bearings first...
 
2017-12-27 10:04:44 AM  

Cpl.D: edmo: MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now.

Yes, but now it's only ten years off.

It isn't because fusion is unreachable, it's because they decided not to fund it in lieu of more oil and coal plants.Guess farking why.

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12 years is less than 40 billion a year.

That would be a 7.5 cent gasoline tax.
 
2017-12-27 10:20:38 AM  

Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.


Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?
 
2017-12-27 10:43:00 AM  

hobbes0022: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?


The problem isn't the physics of is "it" capable of producing net power, "it" being a single D-T fusion event or a single inertial-confinement pellet explosion. E=mc^2 turns a huge amount of nuclear binding energy/mass into kinetic energy. It's the engineering challenge of producing sustainable reactions with a steady influx of fuel and removal of byproducts.

I gave up nearly 30 years ago because I thought it was too difficult. There's also a fuel problem with the world supply of lithium to convert to He3, producing tritium without raising thermonuclear weapons issues, or the energy to extract deuterium from sea water.

Thorium salt reactors are so much simpler and there's thorium all over the world and no weapons issues. Fark fusion. Fark it right in the ear.
 
2017-12-27 11:05:40 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: Pinner: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

The cold fusion claims we're fun to watch crash and burn.

It's easy, really, to do it at home - it just doesn't produce net energy output.

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Do you like neutrons? Because that's how you get neutrons.
 
2017-12-27 11:07:53 AM  
There is a giant self-sustaining fusion reaction going on just 8 light-minutes away, and we are bathing in that energy constantly.  That very energy was accidentally stored underground over millions of years by accident.  We found it, dug it up, and fueled our civilization with it.  Unfortunately, a lot of nasty by-products are released in that process.

But since that energy was stored accidentally, how hard can it be to improve on it and use it to store the energy in a much cleaner manner?

We already have access to fusion energy, we're just idiots about how we use it.
 
2017-12-27 11:17:19 AM  

syrynxx: hobbes0022: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?

The problem isn't the physics of is "it" capable of producing net power, "it" being a single D-T fusion event or a single inertial-confinement pellet explosion. E=mc^2 turns a huge amount of nuclear binding energy/mass into kinetic energy. It's the engineering challenge of producing sustainable reactions with a steady influx of fuel and removal of byproducts.

I gave up nearly 30 years ago because I thought it was too difficult. There's also a fuel problem with the world supply of lithium to convert to He3, producing tritium without raising thermonuclear weapons issues, or the energy to extract deuterium from sea water.

Thorium salt reactors are so much simpler and there's thorium all over the world and no weapons issues. Fark fusion. Fark it right in the ear.


I thought a lithium case would automatically generate he3 due to neutron bombardment from the core?
 
2017-12-27 11:19:09 AM  
(I accidentally the whole thing)
 
2017-12-27 11:26:06 AM  

hobbes0022: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?


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2017-12-27 11:26:59 AM  
So what's up with that announcement that Lockheed was going to show off a fusion generator sized to fit a flatbed truck, a year or two ago?   Was that supposed to be boron-based?

And what's going on with those Canadian guys and their liquid-lead-cored "thumper" system?
 
2017-12-27 11:29:52 AM  
Meh. Call me when they remove the word experimental from the name.
 
2017-12-27 11:32:09 AM  

Shryke: syrynxx: hobbes0022: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?

The problem isn't the physics of is "it" capable of producing net power, "it" being a single D-T fusion event or a single inertial-confinement pellet explosion. E=mc^2 turns a huge amount of nuclear binding energy/mass into kinetic energy. It's the engineering challenge of producing sustainable reactions with a steady influx of fuel and removal of byproducts.

I gave up nearly 30 years ago because I thought it was too difficult. There's also a fuel problem with the world supply of lithium to convert to He3, producing tritium without raising thermonuclear weapons issues, or the energy to extract deuterium from sea water.

Thorium salt reactors are so much simpler and there's thorium all over the world and no weapons issues. Fark fusion. Fark it right in the ear.

I thought a lithium case would automatically generate he3 due to neutron bombardment from the core?


Yes, it was a limit of world lithium supply. At the time (I was in college during Chernobyl/cold fusion for timeframe) there was a projected 300 year supply for lithium, vs 5000 years for U238 for fast breeder fission as a comparison. Of course the estimate for "peak oil" back then was 2020.
 
2017-12-27 11:45:55 AM  
Things that are always five years away:
1.  Nuclear Fusion
2.  Mars human landing
3.  Gigabit internet for all
4.  Sub-Orbital Planes
5.  Trumps Tax Release
6.  Public Space Trips

And...of course...
7.  Flying cars for all
 
2017-12-27 11:46:43 AM  

MasterAdkins: Two things, I've been hearing this for about 30 years now. Second, nice to see it's not in the US, thanks Trump, Traitor-in-Chief (tm).



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The National Ignition Facility (NIF).
A laser-based inertial confinement fusion research device, located at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California.
It was used as the warp-core in "Star Trek Into Darkness.

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MIT's fusion reactor.

It's not as if there hasn't been any fusion research in the US.
 
2017-12-27 11:46:47 AM  

FarkGrudge: Things that are always five years away:
1.  Nuclear Fusion
2.  Mars human landing
3.  Gigabit internet for all
4.  Sub-Orbital Planes
5.  Trumps Tax Release
6.  Public Space Trips

And...of course...
7.  Flying cars for all


Sorry, forgot:
8.  Quantum computers
 
2017-12-27 11:49:21 AM  

FarkGrudge: FarkGrudge: Things that are always five years away:
1.  Nuclear Fusion
2.  Mars human landing
3.  Gigabit internet for all
4.  Sub-Orbital Planes
5.  Trumps Tax Release
6.  Public Space Trips

And...of course...
7.  Flying cars for all

Sorry, forgot:
8.  Quantum computers


9. Cleveland wins the Superbowl
 
2017-12-27 11:53:25 AM  

hobbes0022: Cpl.D: Greybrd: lindseyp: ... and will be online producing useable power in just about 30 years.

/not

Just like the widely available flying cars predicted forty years ago or every house being solar powered.

We could if we funded it.  Fusion isn't unicorn farts.  It's solid science.

Yes, fusion is real.

But do we KNOW it could produce net positive energy?


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