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(The Times of India)   Apparently not even hiding what side they're on anymore, Pakistan issues order to shoot down US drones targeting terrorists   ( timesofindia.indiatimes.com) divider line
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2017-12-07 11:58:50 AM  
28 votes:

Rucker10: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

The amount of aid the U.S. gives isn't a metric for how much we're allowed to violet their sovereign rights as a country.


What if we want to mauve their sovereign rights?
2017-12-07 12:06:19 PM  
10 votes:

Nogrhi: Rucker10: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

The amount of aid the U.S. gives isn't a metric for how much we're allowed to violet their sovereign rights as a country.

What if we want to mauve their sovereign rights?


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2017-12-07 11:24:54 AM  
6 votes:

rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.
2017-12-07 12:21:16 PM  
5 votes:

manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.


Almost hard to believe that you haven't single handedly solved the Middle East issues.
2017-12-07 11:53:32 AM  
5 votes:
That webpage should be shot down.
2017-12-07 11:27:17 AM  
5 votes:
To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...
2017-12-07 02:10:09 PM  
3 votes:

steklo: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


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2017-12-07 12:08:49 PM  
3 votes:
Why does Pakistan get all our drones while Amazon still delivers by truck?
2017-12-07 11:11:52 AM  
3 votes:
Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.
2017-12-07 01:36:16 PM  
2 votes:

DarkVader: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.


Israel itself  declared it was the capital in 1949. Let me guess....... you don't recognize Israel as a country
2017-12-07 01:29:16 PM  
2 votes:

AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...

But Democrats are OK with people not respecting US sovereignty, by ignoring its borders

Sounds like you are proving my point.  I'll put you down as "against it"...

If, we similarly enforce our own borders and deport and ban taxpayer-funded services to those who violate them - sure!


Sorry.  I didn't know you were ignorant.
2017-12-07 01:04:05 PM  
2 votes:

rcain: WTFDYW: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.

No I don't live in the US anymore -- but I'm still a US Citizen with a US Passport
As an Expat, I really don't like seeing the US Military running amok in other Nations in violation of International Law

And frankly, being a Citizen of the World gives my opinion FAR MORE WEIGHT than some closed minded country bumpkin that thinks that just because I live abroad my opinion no longer matters


We have confirmation that rcain is a parody account. And a brilliant one at that.

Could this be a new 'gym in 26 minutes'?
2017-12-07 12:53:20 PM  
2 votes:

WTFDYW: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.


No I don't live in the US anymore -- but I'm still a US Citizen with a US Passport
As an Expat, I really don't like seeing the US Military running amok in other Nations in violation of International Law

And frankly, being a Citizen of the World gives my opinion FAR MORE WEIGHT than some closed minded country bumpkin that thinks that just because I live abroad my opinion no longer matters
2017-12-07 12:41:41 PM  
2 votes:
The same Assholes that were hiding and providing safe harbor to Osama Bin Laden?

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2017-12-07 12:15:00 PM  
2 votes:

KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.


1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.
2017-12-07 12:10:59 PM  
2 votes:
Pakistan:
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2017-12-07 12:10:20 PM  
2 votes:
Kangaroo_Ralph: Apparently not even hiding what side they're on anymore, Farkers respond.

lol
2017-12-07 11:56:23 AM  
2 votes:
Trump stopped hiding what side we're on, so...

/this is why Diplomacy is useful
2017-12-07 10:45:19 PM  
1 vote:

Reasonable Human: It kind of is - the issue with Jerusalem, as I understand it, is that half of it is on "occupied" land


So build the US Embassy on the other half.
2017-12-07 07:11:03 PM  
1 vote:

Likwit: rcain: WTFDYW: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.

No I don't live in the US anymore -- but I'm still a US Citizen with a US Passport
As an Expat, I really don't like seeing the US Military running amok in other Nations in violation of International Law

And frankly, being a Citizen of the World gives my opinion FAR MORE WEIGHT than some closed minded country bumpkin that thinks that just because I live abroad my opinion no longer matters

We have confirmation that rcain is a parody account. And a brilliant one at that.

Could this be a new 'gym in 26 minutes'?


Dude -- I went expat on Tuesday, presently in Playas de Tijuana MX, right on the other side of the border fence and will be working my way down to Guadalajara next week, where I will stay a few months before relocating to Canada, then Europe for a bit. I had been considering this since 2012, so it wasn't just because of Trump. In fact, the original reason was to live cut rate abroad while working on my Startup and working part time for my clients back in the US and earning my Silicon Valley level income
2017-12-07 06:25:36 PM  
1 vote:

IamAwake: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

This.  I mean, for fark's sake people.  Enough of the "but but ...terrorists!" - we farking made them.  They are our creation.   Do we think we're going to bomb them into submission, while disregarding sovereignty of our allies?  We don't think that will be a problem when the children of today are the adults of tomorrow?


and maybe/also if we stopped doing things like violating sovereign airspace and forcing everything American onto everyone, people might hate us less and not want to blow us up.
2017-12-07 04:40:30 PM  
1 vote:

bigfatbuddhist: You're a halfwit, boy.

bigfatbuddhist: And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.


You now have a Southern accent in lots of people's heads
2017-12-07 03:02:05 PM  
1 vote:

genner: DarkVader: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.

Israel itself  declared it was the capital in 1949. Let me guess....... you don't recognize Israel as a country


That declaration is a violation of UN General Assembly mandate 303, established that same year.
(1) the City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations; (2) the Trusteeship Council shall be designated to discharge the responsibilities of the Administering Authority ...; and (3) the City of Jerusalem shall include the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns.
The Trusteeship Council shall not allow any actions taken by any interested Government or Governments to divert it from adopting and implementing the Statute of Jerusalem.
I recognize them as country, but one that needs to be punished for their repeated violations of international law.  Instead of moving our Embassy, we should move the UN headquarters there.
2017-12-07 02:43:40 PM  
1 vote:

bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Good God!  You mean they almost get out of the system what they are paying into it?  You know, through state taxes and social security payments they'll never reap?

You're a halfwit, boy.  Seriously.  You did your best and let me laugh even harder...

Unsurprisingly, an imbecile like you would miss the fact that they shouldn't be here, and therefore, not paying into the system anyway

They've been coming here for over a hundred years.  Only recently did Republicans decide to blame their poor economies on them.  Idiots buy it.  Intelligent people think for themselves...


Again, your reading comprehension fails you.
The discussion was about the sovereignty of borders, not about who to blame for the economy.
Keep up, boy !
Now, get back to reading Where the Red Fern Grows, so you can get that gold star.
2017-12-07 02:10:43 PM  
1 vote:

DarkVader: Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel. No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel. The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.


So who gets to decide where the capital of a country is?
 (a) The country itself
 (b) A random selection of other countries

Personally I think that London is the capital of the USA, since it's just an upstart colony, and I don't recognize their choice of a new capital.
2017-12-07 02:04:20 PM  
1 vote:

bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Did I say welfare? I said any taxpayer-funded programs.
Sad, is your reading comprehension skills.

And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.


Child, stop trying to be so defensive in a vain attempt to save face.
2017-12-07 01:44:05 PM  
1 vote:

Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


what's the conversion rate like?

$100M in aid : 1 Predator drone with hellfire blowing up weddings and hospitals to maybe kill a bad brownie?

Do we get discounts if it's a mudhut instead of a hospital?
2017-12-07 01:32:16 PM  
1 vote:

mikaloyd: These drones that target terrorists, do they only hit terrorists? Because that'd make a difference I think.


Ostensibly - but they're cranky and difficult to calibrate properly.
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2017-12-07 01:19:29 PM  
1 vote:
the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil

True, you should not blow people up using drones. That's what brainwashed suicide bombers are for.
Lashkar-e-Taiba was very humble when they deliberately murdered 165 hotel guests. And their leader Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is just a straight shooter with nothing to hide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/16/wo​r​ld/asia/pakistan-hafiz-muhammad-saeed-​milli-muslim-league.html
Good guys ban polio vaccinations.
Unlike those arrogant drone strikes that kill 6 people at "weddings" that happens to be adjacent to stockpiles of weapons and ammunition.
2017-12-07 01:12:28 PM  
1 vote:

beezeltown: Huh...they will expend the considerable resources to shoot down a drone but can't lift a finger to round up, or at least roust armed militants conducting unauthorized [by Pakistan] military operations from bases in Pakistan. Awesome.

What could possibly go wrong by allowing an embedded, active, largely foreign, loosely [not really] controlled military force to operate on Pakistani soil? It's not like they might regroup and organize a real action, with the protection of Pakistan, that would then force the U.S. to openly, brazenly invade and occupy Pakistan. It's not like the U.S. hasn't done that elsewhere in the last 20 years.

Posturing and puffery are fine for Pakistan to pretend. Actually taking proactive steps to protect and aid enemies actively at war with the U.S. puts them a step closer to really being at war with the U.S.

A little chest-thumping for a few weeks from Pakistan...the U.S. will continue to strike enemies wherever they may be. It doesn't pay to tangle with the U.S., in the long run.


Oddly enough Ed and Al Elric were conducting unauthorized operations throughout all of the Fullmetal Alchemist episodes. Different cultures, different rules.
2017-12-07 12:52:44 PM  
1 vote:

rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


This.  I mean, for fark's sake people.  Enough of the "but but ...terrorists!" - we farking made them.  They are our creation.   Do we think we're going to bomb them into submission, while disregarding sovereignty of our allies?  We don't think that will be a problem when the children of today are the adults of tomorrow?
2017-12-07 12:48:37 PM  
1 vote:

KarmicDisaster: KarmicDisaster: v2micca: I honestly can't believe it took them this long to finally put their foot down.  The U.S. has been conducting drone strikes in their airspace for over a decade, selecting targets on the intelligence that is questionable at best, and caring very little about collateral damage.  Pakistan is a Sovereign nation and has the right to protect its boarders.

Well, it is probably because the US stopped it's 300M payment to Pakistan at the end of July. That was keeping their military in line. Now Trump is going to use threats or something.

Also, it would probably help a lot if the US had an ambassador to Pakistan to deliver the threats or whatever the new policy, if any, is going to be.


Twitter, bro...
2017-12-07 12:47:17 PM  
1 vote:

bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...


But Democrats are OK with people not respecting US sovereignty, by ignoring its borders
2017-12-07 12:42:21 PM  
1 vote:

manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.


Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.
2017-12-07 12:37:17 PM  
1 vote:
I honestly can't believe it took them this long to finally put their foot down.  The U.S. has been conducting drone strikes in their airspace for over a decade, selecting targets on the intelligence that is questionable at best, and caring very little about collateral damage.  Pakistan is a Sovereign nation and has the right to protect its boarders.
2017-12-07 12:25:20 PM  
1 vote:
Drones: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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2017-12-07 12:21:17 PM  
1 vote:
Huh...they will expend the considerable resources to shoot down a drone but can't lift a finger to round up, or at least roust armed militants conducting unauthorized [by Pakistan] military operations from bases in Pakistan. Awesome.

What could possibly go wrong by allowing an embedded, active, largely foreign, loosely [not really] controlled military force to operate on Pakistani soil? It's not like they might regroup and organize a real action, with the protection of Pakistan, that would then force the U.S. to openly, brazenly invade and occupy Pakistan. It's not like the U.S. hasn't done that elsewhere in the last 20 years.

Posturing and puffery are fine for Pakistan to pretend. Actually taking proactive steps to protect and aid enemies actively at war with the U.S. puts them a step closer to really being at war with the U.S.

A little chest-thumping for a few weeks from Pakistan...the U.S. will continue to strike enemies wherever they may be. It doesn't pay to tangle with the U.S., in the long run.
2017-12-07 12:19:44 PM  
1 vote:

steklo: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


Years and years ago, when I was attending highschool, I had a substitute religious studies teacher tell me, privately, almost verbatim the the same thing, persistent fallout and all. I didn't tell anyone else at the time, because, holy shiatthat's not something you tell a tenth grader.

Well, maybe not back then, and certainly not at a Catholic highschool.

Years later, I'll admit, I sometimes remember that statement and all its perverse, Ozymandian logic. (I often refer to it when discussing how much I loathe Montreal's infrastructure - evacuate it, remove anything of cultural value, then shwack it from orbit and rebuild it in a manner benefiting sane urban planning practices...)

So I guess what I'm saying is, Mr. Tremblant, is that you?

//disclaimer - not an endorsement to remodel either the Middle East, or western Quebec, using nuclear demolition
2017-12-07 11:57:49 AM  
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2017-12-07 11:47:13 AM  
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Psychopusher: More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


We give twice as much to Israel, and they fark us over on a daily basis.
 
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