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(The Times of India)   Apparently not even hiding what side they're on anymore, Pakistan issues order to shoot down US drones targeting terrorists   ( timesofindia.indiatimes.com) divider line
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2017-12-07 11:11:52 AM  
89 votes:
Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.
2017-12-07 11:27:17 AM  
34 votes:
To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...
2017-12-07 11:10:59 AM  
25 votes:
I think OBL's demise pretty well documented whose side they are on.
2017-12-07 11:47:13 AM  
24 votes:

Psychopusher: More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


We give twice as much to Israel, and they fark us over on a daily basis.
2017-12-07 11:15:26 AM  
22 votes:
Pakistan is on Pakistans side.  Always have been.
2017-12-07 12:12:35 PM  
15 votes:
Pakistan has to make this kind of noise so they don't get ousted by their own competing extremists.  We make contrite noises in return - at least we used to - and the game keeps rolling along.
2017-12-07 12:06:17 PM  
14 votes:
I can't remember - is Pakistan the country where US drones occasionally kill grandmas hanging out the laundry, or the one where little kids know not to play outside on clear sunny days because those are the days the drones are flying?
2017-12-07 11:54:59 AM  
14 votes:

Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


The amount of aid the U.S. gives isn't a metric for how much we're allowed to violet their sovereign rights as a country.
2017-12-07 11:56:46 AM  
12 votes:
Wake me up when they start doing that.

They've done this before.  Make public declarations against the US air strikes while privately coordinating it and authorizing strikes.
2017-12-07 12:00:29 PM  
10 votes:

sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world


Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.
2017-12-07 12:15:00 PM  
9 votes:

KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.


1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.
2017-12-07 11:57:49 AM  
9 votes:
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2017-12-07 11:31:52 AM  
9 votes:
What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world
2017-12-07 12:42:21 PM  
8 votes:

manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.


Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.
2017-12-07 12:25:56 PM  
8 votes:

Fishmongers' Daughters: I can't remember - is Pakistan the country where US drones occasionally kill grandmas hanging out the laundry, or the one where little kids know not to play outside on clear sunny days because those are the days the drones are flying?


What? You mean saying "oops" when you wipe out a wedding ceremony isn't enough?
2017-12-07 12:13:30 PM  
8 votes:

Psychopusher: More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


They've essentially allowed the terrorist hunting for over a decade, it's possible that recently the US has either become more lackadaisical in minimizing civilian casualties, or has strongly given that impression, making it politically untenable for the Pakistani government to continue with the status quo.
2017-12-07 12:00:32 PM  
8 votes:
Why shouldn't they?  Our drones have no business being over any other country.
2017-12-07 11:24:54 AM  
8 votes:

rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.
2017-12-07 12:53:20 PM  
7 votes:

WTFDYW: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.


No I don't live in the US anymore -- but I'm still a US Citizen with a US Passport
As an Expat, I really don't like seeing the US Military running amok in other Nations in violation of International Law

And frankly, being a Citizen of the World gives my opinion FAR MORE WEIGHT than some closed minded country bumpkin that thinks that just because I live abroad my opinion no longer matters
2017-12-07 12:47:17 PM  
7 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...


But Democrats are OK with people not respecting US sovereignty, by ignoring its borders
2017-12-07 01:36:16 PM  
6 votes:

DarkVader: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.


Israel itself  declared it was the capital in 1949. Let me guess....... you don't recognize Israel as a country
2017-12-07 01:18:15 PM  
6 votes:

ChipNASA: You want Tomahawk Missiles? Because this is how you get Tomahawk Missiles.


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God I love the way they level themselves out. Could watch that loop endlessly.
2017-12-07 12:41:41 PM  
6 votes:
The same Assholes that were hiding and providing safe harbor to Osama Bin Laden?

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2017-12-07 12:32:59 PM  
6 votes:

Psychopusher: But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.


It might give the USA the right to *ask* if they can conduct military operations, yes. But no amount of money gives you the right to invade a foreign country and kill it's citizens without any warning.

Just imagine what Fox News would say if Pakistani troops invaded Iowa in search of some fugitive.
2017-12-07 12:21:16 PM  
5 votes:

manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.


Almost hard to believe that you haven't single handedly solved the Middle East issues.
2017-12-07 12:07:11 PM  
5 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...


To make it that much worse imagine the outrage if that other country accidentally killed some innocent people at the same time which happens frequently with drone strikes. Probably why you don't see any domestic strikes but on the other side of the world Hellfire missiles based on best guess intelligence are good to go.
2017-12-07 12:02:56 PM  
5 votes:
steklo:

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


How very alt-right of you.  You just left out the glass parking lot that they so love to imagine.
2017-12-07 11:56:23 AM  
5 votes:
Trump stopped hiding what side we're on, so...

/this is why Diplomacy is useful
2017-12-07 11:53:32 AM  
5 votes:
That webpage should be shot down.
2017-12-07 12:39:58 PM  
4 votes:

v2micca: I honestly can't believe it took them this long to finally put their foot down.  The U.S. has been conducting drone strikes in their airspace for over a decade, selecting targets on the intelligence that is questionable at best, and caring very little about collateral damage.  Pakistan is a Sovereign nation and has the right to protect its boarders.


Well, it is probably because the US stopped it's 300M payment to Pakistan at the end of July. That was keeping their military in line. Now Trump is going to use threats or something.
2017-12-07 12:37:17 PM  
4 votes:
I honestly can't believe it took them this long to finally put their foot down.  The U.S. has been conducting drone strikes in their airspace for over a decade, selecting targets on the intelligence that is questionable at best, and caring very little about collateral damage.  Pakistan is a Sovereign nation and has the right to protect its boarders.
2017-12-07 12:19:44 PM  
4 votes:

steklo: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


Years and years ago, when I was attending highschool, I had a substitute religious studies teacher tell me, privately, almost verbatim the the same thing, persistent fallout and all. I didn't tell anyone else at the time, because, holy shiatthat's not something you tell a tenth grader.

Well, maybe not back then, and certainly not at a Catholic highschool.

Years later, I'll admit, I sometimes remember that statement and all its perverse, Ozymandian logic. (I often refer to it when discussing how much I loathe Montreal's infrastructure - evacuate it, remove anything of cultural value, then shwack it from orbit and rebuild it in a manner benefiting sane urban planning practices...)

So I guess what I'm saying is, Mr. Tremblant, is that you?

//disclaimer - not an endorsement to remodel either the Middle East, or western Quebec, using nuclear demolition
2017-12-07 11:52:59 AM  
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Psychopusher: More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

We give twice as much to Israel, and they fark us over on a daily basis.


I think the bigger issue is that we are not coordinating with them in any meaningful way.  Using the OBL example, we didn't even tell them we would be flying a manned military mission into their country.  Bad penetration, no reach around!

Now, the other side can argue that the Pakistani military / government would have sold us out to OBL and he would have bolted... I don't think that is justification for the attack as much as it is an incentive to reappraise our relationship with Pakistan.
2017-12-07 11:49:15 AM  
4 votes:

sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world


Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.
2017-12-07 03:15:09 PM  
3 votes:
Reasonable Human: It's an interesting point: at what point do lands taken in war become legitimate?

Given that there is virtually NO country on earth who's lands were not taken in war or other hostile action, there needs to be some sort of statute of limitation.

The world seems fine with recognizing Vietnam as a single country with a single capital. That is more recent than the 1967 actions in Jerusalem.

Reasonable Human: If Russia wanted to move their capital to Sevastopol (or Donetsk) would we expect the rest of the world to recognise it?

I don't see what good *not* recognizing it does. You either have peaceable relations with another country, or you don't; this isn't a buffet where you can pick and choose.
2017-12-07 02:04:20 PM  
3 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Did I say welfare? I said any taxpayer-funded programs.
Sad, is your reading comprehension skills.

And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.


Child, stop trying to be so defensive in a vain attempt to save face.
2017-12-07 12:54:47 PM  
3 votes:
Yeah, let's get out of there. Get out of Afghanistan too. Shut it all down.
2017-12-07 12:52:44 PM  
3 votes:

rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


This.  I mean, for fark's sake people.  Enough of the "but but ...terrorists!" - we farking made them.  They are our creation.   Do we think we're going to bomb them into submission, while disregarding sovereignty of our allies?  We don't think that will be a problem when the children of today are the adults of tomorrow?
2017-12-07 12:25:20 PM  
3 votes:
Drones: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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2017-12-07 12:21:58 PM  
3 votes:

manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.


lol
2017-12-07 12:21:17 PM  
3 votes:
Huh...they will expend the considerable resources to shoot down a drone but can't lift a finger to round up, or at least roust armed militants conducting unauthorized [by Pakistan] military operations from bases in Pakistan. Awesome.

What could possibly go wrong by allowing an embedded, active, largely foreign, loosely [not really] controlled military force to operate on Pakistani soil? It's not like they might regroup and organize a real action, with the protection of Pakistan, that would then force the U.S. to openly, brazenly invade and occupy Pakistan. It's not like the U.S. hasn't done that elsewhere in the last 20 years.

Posturing and puffery are fine for Pakistan to pretend. Actually taking proactive steps to protect and aid enemies actively at war with the U.S. puts them a step closer to really being at war with the U.S.

A little chest-thumping for a few weeks from Pakistan...the U.S. will continue to strike enemies wherever they may be. It doesn't pay to tangle with the U.S., in the long run.
2017-12-07 12:15:32 PM  
3 votes:
Ummm, not sure I blame them when you consider... linky.

/ I'm sure it's just fake news though
2017-12-07 12:00:14 PM  
3 votes:
Apparently not even hiding what side they're on anymore, Farkers respond.
2017-12-07 11:58:50 AM  
3 votes:

Rucker10: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

The amount of aid the U.S. gives isn't a metric for how much we're allowed to violet their sovereign rights as a country.


What if we want to mauve their sovereign rights?
2017-12-07 08:00:06 PM  
2 votes:

flynn80: genner: DarkVader: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.

Israel itself  declared it was the capital in 1949. Let me guess....... you don't recognize Israel as a country

That declaration is a violation of UN General Assembly mandate 303, established that same year.
(1) the City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations; (2) the Trusteeship Council shall be designated to discharge the responsibilities of the Administering Authority ...; and (3) the City of Jerusalem shall include the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns.
The Trusteeship Council shall not allow any actions taken by any interested Government or Governments to divert it from adopting and implementing the Statute of Jerusalem.
I recognize them as country, but one that needs to be punished for their repeated violations of international law.  Instead of moving our Embassy, we should move the UN headquarters there.


The UN is not Israel. Israel says it's the capital - they are a sovereign state.
2017-12-07 04:18:11 PM  
2 votes:
In Pakistan it is easier to believe the drones are terrorists than your fellow muslims.
2017-12-07 02:43:40 PM  
2 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Good God!  You mean they almost get out of the system what they are paying into it?  You know, through state taxes and social security payments they'll never reap?

You're a halfwit, boy.  Seriously.  You did your best and let me laugh even harder...

Unsurprisingly, an imbecile like you would miss the fact that they shouldn't be here, and therefore, not paying into the system anyway

They've been coming here for over a hundred years.  Only recently did Republicans decide to blame their poor economies on them.  Idiots buy it.  Intelligent people think for themselves...


Again, your reading comprehension fails you.
The discussion was about the sovereignty of borders, not about who to blame for the economy.
Keep up, boy !
Now, get back to reading Where the Red Fern Grows, so you can get that gold star.
2017-12-07 02:17:50 PM  
2 votes:

steklo: Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


Yeah, just look at the tens of thousands of innocent people slaughtered by Mormon terrorists.
2017-12-07 01:55:12 PM  
2 votes:

genner: SuperNinjaToad: Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.

Yeah how dare Obama violate their sovereignty by having Bin Laden killed on Pakistani soil. I'm sure everyone was as equally upset by that as they are now.


He invaded a sovereign nation. Troops on the ground conducting warfare. If that had gone wrong. If OBL wasn't there. If any of a dozen things had happened.

Obama probably resigns in disgrace.

It was high risk high reward.
2017-12-07 01:48:57 PM  
2 votes:

bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...

But Democrats are OK with people not respecting US sovereignty, by ignoring its borders

Sounds like you are proving my point.  I'll put you down as "against it"...

If, we similarly enforce our own borders and deport and ban taxpayer-funded services to those who violate them - sure!

Sorry.  I didn't know you were ignorant.

But I knew that you must've been a moron.

So, you need a moron to inform you that illegals don't qualify for most welfare.  Now THAT is sad, son.


Did I say welfare? I said any taxpayer-funded programs.
Sad, is your reading comprehension skills.
2017-12-07 01:43:04 PM  
2 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.


Yeah how dare Obama violate their sovereignty by having Bin Laden killed on Pakistani soil. I'm sure everyone was as equally upset by that as they are now.
2017-12-07 01:19:29 PM  
2 votes:
the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil

True, you should not blow people up using drones. That's what brainwashed suicide bombers are for.
Lashkar-e-Taiba was very humble when they deliberately murdered 165 hotel guests. And their leader Hafiz Muhammad Saeed is just a straight shooter with nothing to hide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/16/wo​r​ld/asia/pakistan-hafiz-muhammad-saeed-​milli-muslim-league.html
Good guys ban polio vaccinations.
Unlike those arrogant drone strikes that kill 6 people at "weddings" that happens to be adjacent to stockpiles of weapons and ammunition.
2017-12-07 01:04:05 PM  
2 votes:

rcain: WTFDYW: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.

No I don't live in the US anymore -- but I'm still a US Citizen with a US Passport
As an Expat, I really don't like seeing the US Military running amok in other Nations in violation of International Law

And frankly, being a Citizen of the World gives my opinion FAR MORE WEIGHT than some closed minded country bumpkin that thinks that just because I live abroad my opinion no longer matters


We have confirmation that rcain is a parody account. And a brilliant one at that.

Could this be a new 'gym in 26 minutes'?
2017-12-07 12:27:08 PM  
2 votes:

beezeltown: Huh...they will expend the considerable resources to shoot down a drone but can't lift a finger to round up, or at least roust armed militants conducting unauthorized [by Pakistan] military operations from bases in Pakistan. Awesome.

What could possibly go wrong by allowing an embedded, active, largely foreign, loosely [not really] controlled military force to operate on Pakistani soil? It's not like they might regroup and organize a real action, with the protection of Pakistan, that would then force the U.S. to openly, brazenly invade and occupy Pakistan. It's not like the U.S. hasn't done that elsewhere in the last 20 years.

Posturing and puffery are fine for Pakistan to pretend. Actually taking proactive steps to protect and aid enemies actively at war with the U.S. puts them a step closer to really being at war with the U.S.

A little chest-thumping for a few weeks from Pakistan...the U.S. will continue to strike enemies wherever they may be. It doesn't pay to tangle with the U.S., in the long run.


Probably because they have to walk the razor's edge when it comes to terrism.  Let the terrists do their thing and the US bombs the shiat out of your countryside. Kill too many terrists, and your citizenry revolts and you have a civil war inside a nuclear power.
2017-12-07 12:09:16 PM  
2 votes:

Rucker10: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

The amount of aid the U.S. gives isn't a metric for how much we're allowed to violet their sovereign rights as a country.


Well, no, of course not.  Not officially.  But you know, a little quid pro quo, right?  Knowhatimean?  Wink wink?
2017-12-07 11:00:44 PM  
1 vote:

genner: SuperNinjaToad: Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.

Yeah how dare Obama violate their sovereignty by having Bin Laden killed on Pakistani soil. I'm sure everyone was as equally upset by that as they are now.


Actually back when it happened, among Americans it was mostly Republicans who were upset when Bin Laden was killed, especially Trump since his TV program was pre-empted in order for Obama to announce Laden getting killed.  Not a single Fark Republican had anything good to say about this action.
2017-12-07 09:05:15 PM  
1 vote:

rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


Not to mention: WE KEEP F*CKING SHOOTING F*CKING CIVILIANS! Of COURSE they're pissed! Half the time, we hit the terrorist and Grandma!
2017-12-07 08:33:03 PM  
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rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


So, how about nations that shelter known terrorists who attack American and western interests?

Are you saying America should bend over and be Pakistan's biatch?
2017-12-07 08:01:19 PM  
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DarkVader: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Jerusalem is not and has never been the capital of Israel.  No country in the world recognizes it as the capital of Israel.  The international embassies are in Tel Aviv, because Jerusalem is not the capital of Israel.


Israel decides their capital - not globalists.
2017-12-07 07:21:44 PM  
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Latinwolf: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

Why is the U.S. giving them aid if they are not helping with taking down the terrorist?


Logistics.

A majority of US forces in Afghanistan are supplied by truck convoys which pass goods from ports on Pakistan to Afghanistan.
 Without those routes you can not supply the forces in country. There are no alternative routes either so its Pakistani 'trump' card.

So unless we are going to expand our 14 year war to include a nuclear armed 'ally' we have to at least pay heed to their demands.
2017-12-07 06:25:36 PM  
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IamAwake: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

This.  I mean, for fark's sake people.  Enough of the "but but ...terrorists!" - we farking made them.  They are our creation.   Do we think we're going to bomb them into submission, while disregarding sovereignty of our allies?  We don't think that will be a problem when the children of today are the adults of tomorrow?


and maybe/also if we stopped doing things like violating sovereign airspace and forcing everything American onto everyone, people might hate us less and not want to blow us up.
2017-12-07 05:44:31 PM  
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SoundOfOneHandWanking: When did Pakistan say they were on "our side" in the first place?


Cold War
2017-12-07 04:40:30 PM  
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bigfatbuddhist: You're a halfwit, boy.

bigfatbuddhist: And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.


You now have a Southern accent in lots of people's heads
2017-12-07 04:05:19 PM  
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steklo: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


Nah.  The religion is an excuse.  We're talking Pakistan, gentlemen.  Those guys would kill women and children just so they didn't have to learn how to weave baskets the same way at the people three valleys over.
2017-12-07 03:27:09 PM  
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sunderland56: I don't see what good *not* recognizing it does


It keeps people from having a great reason to start slaughtering each other.

And Trump didn't get a thing for this rather valuable shift he just handed to Netanyahu.  Some deal maker.
2017-12-07 03:03:33 PM  
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flynn80: Instead of moving our Embassy, we should move the UN headquarters there.


New York resident-like typing detected.
2017-12-07 03:01:32 PM  
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genner: SuperNinjaToad: Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.

Yeah how dare Obama violate their sovereignty by having Bin Laden killed on Pakistani soil. I'm sure everyone was as equally upset by that as they are now.


Funny you should mention that.  It never sat very well with me.  I understand that extracting a prisoner is orders of magnitude more difficult.  But, if I had my way, he would be rotting in a prison cell.
2017-12-07 02:32:51 PM  
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bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Did I say welfare? I said any taxpayer-funded programs.
Sad, is your reading comprehension skills.

And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.

Child, stop trying to be so defensive in a vain attempt to save face.

And, still no examples.  Kind of ineffectual, aincha?

Schooling?
Emergency medical care, shifting the burden from their inability to get Medicaid coverage.

Apparently, more potent than you...

Good God!  You mean they almost get out of the system what they are paying into it?  You know, through state taxes and social security payments they'll never reap?

You're a halfwit, boy.  Seriously.  You did your best and let me laugh even harder...


Unsurprisingly, an imbecile like you would miss the fact that they shouldn't be here, and therefore, not paying into the system anyway
2017-12-07 02:18:46 PM  
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bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: 

Did I say welfare? I said any taxpayer-funded programs.
Sad, is your reading comprehension skills.

And your lack of examples makes you look stupid, boy.

Child, stop trying to be so defensive in a vain attempt to save face.

And, still no examples.  Kind of ineffectual, aincha?


Schooling?
Emergency medical care, shifting the burden from their inability to get Medicaid coverage.

Apparently, more potent than you...
2017-12-07 02:04:23 PM  
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steklo: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Damn fairy tale fake religions.

Jews: I want Jerusalem,
RC's: no wait I want Jerusalem , this is where Jesus was born!
Muslims: Jerusalem belongs to Allah

Here's what I would do. Evacuate EVERYONE from Jerusalem, take all that is worthy, artifacts, historical stuff and then BOMB the crap out of it with a Nuclear bomb. Radiating the place for 100's of years.

Want Jerusalem now? Go right on ahead. Its all yours.

Its because of this farking stupid fairy tale religion shiat why there is all this terrorism in the world.


It has NOTHING to do with Jerusalem. It has everything to do with the Jews living near arabs and intolerance being the mantra of the middle east in general. You get power by killing an enemy and your willingness to kill to protect your kind.

When Jews had been thrown out and forced to live well outside of Judea ... NO ONE lived there.
British scouts visited the area in the 1700's and described it as a desolate place without life.
When the Jews moved in again. then holy crap we have to kill them all!
2017-12-07 01:45:34 PM  
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SuperNinjaToad: Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.


Pakistan works only enough with the CIA so that  the money keeps flowing.
The OBL situation underscores how duplicitous they are.
2017-12-07 01:39:48 PM  
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Pakistan, like any other sovereign country in the world is on Pakistan's side. I'm pretty darn sure if Pakistani drones or military assets are openly killing people (even very bad people) in DC or Walla Walla, WA. NORAD/USAF etc would be shooting them down too.

Subby's an idiot.

With that being said, no worries.. in the real world I'm sure the CIA etc is still working closely with the Pakistanis. You just won;t hear them in the 5 o clock news.
2017-12-07 01:39:07 PM  
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bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: AllUpInYa: bigfatbuddhist: To be fair, would we be comfortable with someone flying robots into our country and blowing people up on their say so alone?  Certainly if Putin were doing it, Republicans would be all for it, but most people would be pretty against it...

But Democrats are OK with people not respecting US sovereignty, by ignoring its borders

Sounds like you are proving my point.  I'll put you down as "against it"...

If, we similarly enforce our own borders and deport and ban taxpayer-funded services to those who violate them - sure!

Sorry.  I didn't know you were ignorant.


But I knew that you must've been a moron.
2017-12-07 01:34:39 PM  
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Latinwolf: Psychopusher: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

More or less this.  But would think that the billions in aid the US gives to Pakistan would allow for some terrorist hunting consideration.

Why is the U.S. giving them aid if they are not helping with taking down the terrorist?


Because the real world is a complicated place.
2017-12-07 01:32:16 PM  
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mikaloyd: These drones that target terrorists, do they only hit terrorists? Because that'd make a difference I think.


Ostensibly - but they're cranky and difficult to calibrate properly.
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2017-12-07 01:29:09 PM  
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IamAwake: rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.

This.  I mean, for fark's sake people.  Enough of the "but but ...terrorists!" - we farking made them.  They are our creation.   Do we think we're going to bomb them into submission, while disregarding sovereignty of our allies?  We don't think that will be a problem when the children of today are the adults of tomorrow?


Man this is another one  of those posts where gotta say, who the fark is we?
2017-12-07 01:04:29 PM  
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Gubbo: manhole: KarmicDisaster: sithon: What, you didn't think recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital would have consequences did you? Trump has pissed off the entire Muslim world

Well, I'm Pretty Sure that is the idea Bannon had in doing this.

1999: Hillary campaigned that she would push for relocation of embassy - never did it, no problem, yay!
2008: Obama campaigned that he would move it - never did it, no problem, yay!
2016: Trump campaigned that he would move it - did it, tears for years.

Jerusalem was the capital of Israel before Islam. Get over it.

Almost hard to believe that you haven't single handedly solved the Middle East issues.


Nobody is putting forth any serious plans for world peace. It's like nobody wants it.
2017-12-07 12:47:03 PM  
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KarmicDisaster: v2micca: I honestly can't believe it took them this long to finally put their foot down.  The U.S. has been conducting drone strikes in their airspace for over a decade, selecting targets on the intelligence that is questionable at best, and caring very little about collateral damage.  Pakistan is a Sovereign nation and has the right to protect its boarders.

Well, it is probably because the US stopped it's 300M payment to Pakistan at the end of July. That was keeping their military in line. Now Trump is going to use threats or something.


Also, it would probably help a lot if the US had an ambassador to Pakistan to deliver the threats or whatever the new policy, if any, is going to be.
2017-12-07 12:36:16 PM  
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mrsleep: Why do you use the term alt-right when you mean nazi?


synonym [sin-uh-nim]
noun
1.a word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another in the language2.a word or expression accepted as another name for something
2017-12-07 12:25:39 PM  
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As long as they don't cheese off India, we will be fine.
2017-12-07 12:21:10 PM  
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rcain: Pakistan, like all other nations is a SOVERIEGN STATE. And the US has no right violating airspace or conducting military operations on their soil without the expressed permission of their government

Yes, I know this runs afoul of the typical American arrogance that thinks all nations are the biatches of the US.


You don't live here any more. What's it to you. Your opinion means shiat now.
 
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