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(CNN)   Missing 17-year-old girl found with 27-year-old coach after multi-state search. Situation could have been cleared up quickly if only the coach had asked the teenager's mother for permission to date   ( edition.cnn.com) divider line
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2017-12-05 09:07:06 PM  
Or if he'd been a GOP candidate.
 
2017-12-05 09:53:24 PM  
17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old
 
2017-12-05 10:11:19 PM  

lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

Missing

17 year old girl found with 27 year coach after multi-state search.

A: Coach.
B: It ain't the crime, it's the cover up.
 
2017-12-05 10:41:46 PM  
17 and only ten years younger than you?
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Too old.
 
2017-12-05 11:20:12 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

Missing 17 year old girl found with 27 year coach after multi-state search.

A: Coach.
B: It ain't the crime, it's the cover up.


Oh yeah.    I should drink moar coffee.
 
2017-12-05 11:39:16 PM  

lindseyp: LowbrowDeluxe: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

Missing 17 year old girl found with 27 year coach after multi-state search.

A: Coach.
B: It ain't the crime, it's the cover up.

Oh yeah.    I should drink moar coffee.


Still, to your original point, he could have waited a year and found a different job. This didn't have to end with a multi-state search. He did that with his own bad decision-making.
 
2017-12-05 11:41:14 PM  

lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old


But 34/14?  That's still Roy Moore creepy.
 
2017-12-06 12:13:34 AM  

doglover: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

But 34/14?  That's still Roy Moore creepy.


That's creepy AF.

Having said that,  I know one guy who met his wife when she was 14.  I also know a girl who was proud to tell me she 'dated' her drama teacher when she was 14.   I was horrified.
 
2017-12-06 12:14:01 AM  
btw she was already in her 20s when she told me this.
 
2017-12-06 01:13:15 AM  
Age of sexual consent flies in the face of everything else we require of adults. A minor can sign a contract. A minor might not be able to get an abortion or medical care without parental permission. It's ridiculous. The formula (X/2) + 7 = Y, where X is the age of the older person and Y is the age of the younger person generally works.

So for this coach, (27/2) + 7 = 20.5.

However, that coach is in a position of trust and authority over a minor girl, and that's why he needs several kicks to the nuts with a steel-toed boot, administered by angry Teamsters.
 
2017-12-06 01:14:59 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Age of sexual consent flies in the face of everything else we require of adults. A minor CAN'T sign a contract. A minor might not be able to get an abortion or medical care without parental permission. It's ridiculous. The formula (X/2) + 7 = Y, where X is the age of the older person and Y is the age of the younger person generally works.

So for this coach, (27/2) + 7 = 20.5.

However, that coach is in a position of trust and authority over a minor girl, and that's why he needs several kicks to the nuts with a steel-toed boot, administered by angry Teamsters.


UGH.
 
2017-12-06 03:41:38 AM  
Missing 17 year old girl found with 27 year-old coach after multi-state search.

ftfy subby
 
2017-12-06 03:56:07 AM  
YMMV but if you're dating someone who's older or younger than you by more than five years that's a serious gap in culture and experience, especially when under 30. It's the difference between college and middle school.
 
2017-12-06 04:18:10 AM  
Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.
 
2017-12-06 04:18:32 AM  

lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old


Whenever I try to explain the difference between Ephebephila (also know as hebephila) and pedophilia, I get accused of condoning the act. One's the attraction to teens or young people, and the other to pre-pubescent kids. This guy will likely be labeled as a sexual predator, but I think the only law he's broken is to do with custody of a minor. I coached girl's soccer at a high school, so am very much of the opinion that the breach of trust is awful. It's difficult enough to be a male trying to give leadership to teenage girls without having parents doubt your motives for being there.
 
2017-12-06 04:31:30 AM  
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2017-12-06 04:35:56 AM  

r1niceboy: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

Whenever I try to explain the difference between Ephebephila (also know as hebephila) and pedophilia, I get accused of condoning the act. One's the attraction to teens or young people, and the other to pre-pubescent kids. This guy will likely be labeled as a sexual predator, but I think the only law he's broken is to do with custody of a minor. I coached girl's soccer at a high school, so am very much of the opinion that the breach of trust is awful. It's difficult enough to be a male trying to give leadership to teenage girls without having parents doubt your motives for being there.


It wasn't her coach.  Boys soccer coach!  Same problem though.
 
2017-12-06 04:50:56 AM  
If he only quit his job and waited a year he could have had that young woman riding the bologna pony with a never you mind to anyone.
 
2017-12-06 04:54:19 AM  
lindseyp:  I also know a girl who was proud to tell me she 'dated' her drama teacher when she was 14.

The drama guy at my high school had the same reputation. He had a different special female member of the cast for each production.
 
2017-12-06 04:55:07 AM  
Doesn't that dude have an upcoming HBO special to crank out?

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2017-12-06 05:07:11 AM  

Europos: Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.


You do NOT recall correctly.

It's 18 with a Romeo Juliet exception of 16 dating up to a 23yr old being allowed in Fl.
 
2017-12-06 05:26:32 AM  

lindseyp: doglover: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

But 34/14?  That's still Roy Moore creepy.

That's creepy AF.

Having said that,  I know one guy who met his wife when she was 14.  I also know a girl who was proud to tell me she 'dated' her drama teacher when she was 14.   I was horrified.


Well, how old was he?

I went to high school in a smallish city/town and a fair number of the high school faculty had been students there themselves. There were rumors about one biology teacher, who was close to 50, having sex with female students. Turns out the girls' track coach had lost her virginity to him when she was still a teenager.
 
2017-12-06 05:29:59 AM  
Think him being brown will matter? Nahhhh
 
2017-12-06 05:44:13 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: Doesn't that dude have an upcoming HBO special to crank out?

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Thanks!  I've been racking my brain trying to place this guy.

OTOH, I've been informed by a few people that in Hispanic cultures, once a girl has her coming out party known as the quincenera (sp?), she's considered to be of marriageable age.  I hope to God they were just trolling me the horrified white parent.  But, if that is true, I expect the 'build the wall' crowd will jump on this case as another reason to proceed.  Ok for white people in power, not ok for most others, but especially not ok for poors, and not whites.
 
2017-12-06 05:50:02 AM  

Europos: Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.


Age of consent in FL is 18 if the other partner is 24 or older (it's what they call a "Romeo and Juliet law"). 17 (and 16) is legal through age 23.
 
2017-12-06 05:58:06 AM  

r1niceboy: I coached girl's soccer at a high school, so am very much of the opinion that the breach of trust is awful. It's difficult enough to be a male trying to give leadership to teenage girls without having parents doubt your motives for being there.


He wasn't her coach. He coached the boys' team.
 
2017-12-06 06:09:29 AM  

stan unusual: 17 and only ten years younger than you?
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Too old.


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2017-12-06 06:11:12 AM  
Dude couldn't have waited a year?
 
2017-12-06 06:12:39 AM  

lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.


The issue is the position of authority that an educator has over a student, it's something that's explicitly made illegal in most states entirely separate from age of consent. Unlike with workplace sexual harassment, secondary-school students are legally compelled to be under that authority by state law, thus it's a felony rather than a misdemeanor.
 
2017-12-06 06:16:52 AM  

soupafi: Dude couldn't have waited a year?


Maintaining a relationship with a minor under your authority for the purposes of having sex with them later is called "grooming", and if anything it'll get you in more trouble with the law.

I mean, assuming you get caught at it and aren't a judge in Alabama who can easily shut down investigations until the statute of limitations is up.
 
2017-12-06 06:26:34 AM  
Oh great, another Senate race.
 
2017-12-06 06:32:06 AM  

The Soupman Cumeth: Europos: Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.

Age of consent in FL is 18 if the other partner is 24 or older (it's what they call a "Romeo and Juliet law"). 17 (and 16) is legal through age 23.


Oh, and 14-16 are legal for age 18, but no higher (yes, as a teen I had to research this).
 
2017-12-06 06:44:52 AM  
I was just wondering what Turtle from Entourage was up to these days.
 
2017-12-06 07:01:05 AM  
The GOP supports child molestation.
 
2017-12-06 07:09:50 AM  

lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old


Wrong.  In most states, including Florida, 16 and 17 can consent to a relationship with an adult, but only if that adult is within a few years of age of the child.  In Florida I believe the cut off is 22 years old for an adult, who wants to date a 17 year old.  (Though it may be 21, so check first).

An adult marrying a child, does not make the sex with the child okay.  Maybe legally in some backwater hellholes like Saudi Arabia or Alabama, but the problem of an adult dating a child still persist, namely that the younger partner is extremely more vulnerable to emotional and power manipulation by the older partner, who has a whole lot more experience and legal rights that can make it difficult for the child to refuse if they are hesitant to consent.
 
2017-12-06 07:21:21 AM  

Europos: Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.


Wrong, age of consent in Florida is 17, but only if the partner is 22 years of age or younger.  A 23 year old with a 17 year old can and will be prosecuted for statuary rape.
 
2017-12-06 07:32:45 AM  
Teenage me would have wondered what an attractive girl like her was doing with a chunky doughboy like him. He must be charismatic as hell.
 
2017-12-06 08:02:44 AM  

lindseyp: doglover: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

But 34/14?  That's still Roy Moore creepy.

That's creepy AF.

Having said that,  I know one guy who met his wife when she was 14.  I also know a girl who was proud to tell me she 'dated' her drama teacher when she was 14.   I was horrified.


You knew Elvis?
 
2017-12-06 08:08:19 AM  

AntonChigger: Teenage me would have wondered what an attractive girl like her was doing with a chunky doughboy like him. He must be charismatic as hell.


He had a car, and a home that wasn't with his parents, and held a position of authority over her. That last part is why relationships between school personnel and students is illegal, just as relationships between prison guards and prisoners are illegal. Age isn't the issue. Position of authority is.
 
2017-12-06 08:28:37 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: lindseyp: LowbrowDeluxe: lindseyp: 17 is above the age of consent in most US states and most of the world.   it's also above the legal marriage age in most of the world, and most of the US - with parental consent.

27/17 might raise an eyebrow or two, but such an age gap is extremely common.

There are real problems in the world, America, quit crying "peado!" every time an under-18 does something you disapprove of.

/nttawwt
//wife is older
///not that old

Missing 17 year old girl found with 27 year coach after multi-state search.

A: Coach.
B: It ain't the crime, it's the cover up.

Oh yeah.    I should drink moar coffee.

Still, to your original point, he could have waited a year and found a different job. This didn't have to end with a multi-state search. He did that with his own bad decision-making.


This.  She must be a real freak in the sack if he couldn't wait LESS than a year; she's 17 now.
 
2017-12-06 08:43:48 AM  
I blame the decline of our suburban malls.  Maybe the Republican Senate will soon offer a bill subsidizing our malls as national resources and send some infrastructure money to help them out.  Upon the condition that a Victoria's Secret Pink store is open in said mall.
 
2017-12-06 09:03:16 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: This.  She must be a real freak in the sack if he couldn't wait LESS than a year; she's 17 now.


My local TV news ran a few photos of the girl. Without sounding like a creep, she is very good looking. She looked very sad when she was captured by the police and yet her parents looked ecstatic that she was found. I have a feeling there was a reason why she left them.

The local news went on to say that they suspect the coach, coached and groomed her to leave her home to get a new life in Canada. More then likely there might be a sexual/statutory rape charge pending after the dust settles with his current charges.
 
2017-12-06 09:09:08 AM  
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2017-12-06 09:25:28 AM  
 
2017-12-06 09:32:13 AM  
Quick, make him a Senatorial candidate!
 
2017-12-06 09:35:42 AM  

Europos: Well, since the age of consent is 17 in Florida IIRC, they only mention "Interference with custody" as charge now. I guess Federal charges could be added for running all over the states.

Apart from her not being considered an adult yet, I'm not quite sure how you pearl clutchers that are disturbed by more than a five year age difference between a couple or clinging to that supid internet forumla make it in real live.


If you have to explain why what you did was not wrong, you are probably wrong.
Having said that, we don't know all of the details in this case.  At the least, school employees are likely banned from sexual relationships with students.  Second, the parents are likely not thrilled by the boyfriend.  Third, these relationships are lopsided and prone to abuse since the teen or pre-teen partner doesn't have the same emotional, legal, or financial resources as the adult.
But I don't know, maybe you hang out with 35 year old men who date 16 year old high school girls or boys?  And I have to ask, what do your friends talk about or have in common?  Do they opt for marriage or adoption?
/Roy Moore strongly approves of this message.
 
2017-12-06 09:36:56 AM  
Can't he also be charged under the Mann Act?
 
2017-12-06 09:41:07 AM  
So a 17 year old can't decide to have sex, but at 17 I was allowed to join the army?
 
2017-12-06 09:47:08 AM  

Frankly Speaking: So a 17 year old can't decide to have sex, but at 17 I was allowed to join the army?


Age of consent laws can seem odd an arbitrary, but you need to draw a line some where. Point is, it is a violation of  Florida state law for a person over 23 years of age to have sexual relationships with 17 year old.
 
2017-12-06 09:47:56 AM  

Frankly Speaking: So a 17 year old can't decide to have sex, but at 17 I was allowed to join the army?


That's because you were a boy, and it was your "duty." (I joined because I was broke, but whatever... Reagan needed cannon fodder in '84 too)

To summarize: boys have a penis, and girls use their vaginas to get out of shiat.
 
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