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(New Musical Express)   New poll claims Die Hard is not a Christmas movie   ( nme.com) divider line
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2017-12-05 08:10:29 AM  
A poll said Donnie should be precedent, and I ain't buying that one either.
 
2017-12-05 08:13:17 AM  
Done in one.
Poll fail.
Just like Donnie's
 
2017-12-05 08:18:41 AM  
The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.
 
2017-12-05 08:30:41 AM  
A yougov poll ends a discussion? Unpossible.
 
2017-12-05 08:34:51 AM  
Abortion. Gun control. Dems v, GOP. Whether Die Hard is a Xmas movie.

What are things that no ones mind is ever changed on, Alex?
 
2017-12-05 08:43:37 AM  
How does one define a Christmas movie?
 
2017-12-05 08:52:26 AM  
Again :
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2017-12-05 08:52:34 AM  
Yougov, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the pedantry of an autistic age. They do not believe except they pretend to see.
 
2017-12-05 09:00:57 AM  
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2017-12-05 09:05:46 AM  
Neither was Home Alone
 
2017-12-05 09:06:27 AM  
Well that's just, like, their opinion, man.  It's not substantiated by fact, man.
 
2017-12-05 09:06:38 AM  
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2017-12-05 09:07:19 AM  
It's not 1989's "Elves", but I rate Die Hard, Gremlins, and Lethal Weapon to be the best of the "Sorta-Christmas movies".

As for Elves, still the best Christmas movie of all time:

'I wanna know the connection between the elves and the Nazis' - Elves (1989)
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BTW: The connection is Jeff Sessions.
 
2017-12-05 09:07:32 AM  
It's less of a Christmas movie than Gremlins.
 
2017-12-05 09:12:43 AM  
Yeah, this is a Christmas movie that's too often overlooked

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2017-12-05 09:23:31 AM  

naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.


There's really no end to the number of scenarios that could have been scripted to get him in to that building, it wasn't hinging on Christmas.

A Christmas movie is about Christmas, a movie merely taking place around Christmas doesn't qualify.

Otherwise we'd have to declare Cobra a Christmas movie based on a minute long scene of Cobra cleaning his gun (with a cleaning kit he was hiding in an egg carton in the fridge for some reason) while a Toy R Us Christmas commercial plays on a tv.
 
2017-12-05 09:26:08 AM  
The same polls that said Hillary was going to win!? Fake polls. Fake news. Die hard is a Christmas movie. Anyone who says otherwise is a fake person.
 
2017-12-05 09:30:47 AM  
The Nostalgia Critic made a very compelling argument for Die Hard being a Christmas film (NSFW language):

The Return of the Christmas Specials - Nostalgia Critic
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2017-12-05 09:39:55 AM  

naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.


Yep. An unconventional Christmas movie, but still a Christmas movie.
 
2017-12-05 09:48:38 AM  
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2017-12-05 09:55:35 AM  
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2017-12-05 09:56:57 AM  
 It's been a while since I've seen the whole movie, start to finish. Can anyone tell me if the opening song during the credits is a Christmas tune?

If so then that's your answer.
 
2017-12-05 09:59:46 AM  
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2017-12-05 10:05:20 AM  
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It's not Christmas until I see Brian Dennehey fall through the skylight of the police station.
 
2017-12-05 10:07:14 AM  
Let's not try to appropriate Christmas away from the kiddies, neckbeards.
Little Timmy wants to watch Santa, reindeer & elves - not some exceptional 'merikun murdering foreign money-movers.
 
2017-12-05 10:11:02 AM  
It's less a Christmas movie than Stocking Stuffers IV - Anal Elves.
 
2017-12-05 10:12:42 AM  

steklo: It's been a while since I've seen the whole movie, start to finish. Can anyone tell me if the opening song during the credits is a Christmas tune?

If so then that's your answer.


The intro for the film has no "song" (apart from a few musical chords at parts). The song that begins the end credits, however, is Let It Snow.

/Also, Fark You, it's Die Hard!
 
2017-12-05 10:19:04 AM  
Next they'll be saying that Deadpool isn't a Valentine's Day movie...
 
2017-12-05 10:19:12 AM  
You enjoy your boring Macy's Day parade christmas and I'll enjoy mine.

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2017-12-05 10:20:17 AM  

Dimensio: steklo: It's been a while since I've seen the whole movie, start to finish. Can anyone tell me if the opening song during the credits is a Christmas tune?

If so then that's your answer.

The intro for the film has no "song" (apart from a few musical chords at parts). The song that begins the end credits, however, is Let It Snow.

/Also, Fark You, it's Die Hard!


Other main uses of music outside the score are Ode to Joy from the 9th Symphony, which is played more frequently around the holidays and Run DMC's Christmas in Hollis.
 
2017-12-05 10:21:16 AM  
Just people too insecure to admit that it is the greatest Christmas movie and that they have terrible taste in movies.

It is a heartwarming story of a couple reconciling for Christmas in spite of the greatest of obstacles, Germans.
 
2017-12-05 10:31:44 AM  

rummonkey: You enjoy your boring Macy's Day parade christmas and I'll enjoy mine.

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Not just any bad guy, but Gary Busey who always pulls off that "maniacal" part a bit too well.
 
2017-12-05 10:36:59 AM  
There was a heart warming moment at the end, when that cop recovered his ability to shoot a suspect again.  That was nice.
 
2017-12-05 10:37:28 AM  

dywed88: It is a heartwarming story of a couple reconciling for Christmas in spite of the greatest of obstacles, Germans.


It wasn't just Germans, it was sharp-dressed avant garde Germans, teamed up with a black guy and an Asian guy. It was like having to fight the band Can.
 
2017-12-05 10:40:09 AM  

John Buck 41: Abortion. Gun control. Dems v, GOP. Whether Die Hard is a Xmas movie.

What are things that no ones mind is ever changed on, Alex?


WRONG!  I didn't think Die Hard was a Christmas movie until the last couple of years.  But now, it's not Christmas until I see Hans Gruber fall from the top of Nakatomi Plaza.
 
2017-12-05 10:41:06 AM  
ENOUGH OF THIS ALREADY!

DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE! ARGUABLY THE BEST OF ALL TIME!!!

GET OVER IT.

/I conducted a poll of my own
 
2017-12-05 10:41:49 AM  

oldfarthenry: Let's not try to appropriate Christmas away from the kiddies, neckbeards.
Little Timmy wants to watch Santa, reindeer & elves - not some exceptional 'merikun murdering foreign money-movers.


Die Hard has been a Christmas tradition round the house for more than 20 years. It's a good movie to put on in the background after Little Timmy goes to bed and the grownups have to start putting stuff together.
 
2017-12-05 10:54:28 AM  

MrBallou: Yeah, this is a Christmas movie that's too often overlooked

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Silent Night Dead Night, Black Christmas (from Bob Clark!), Gremlins, and Die Hard are absolutely Christmas movies.
 
2017-12-05 10:57:18 AM  

elvisaintdead: A poll said Donnie should be precedent, and I ain't buying that one either.


Yea were done here, lock up the thread and set that website on fire.

/Die Hard best christmas movie ever.
 
2017-12-05 11:08:48 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.

There's really no end to the number of scenarios that could have been scripted to get him in to that building, it wasn't hinging on Christmas.

A Christmas movie is about Christmas, a movie merely taking place around Christmas doesn't qualify.

Otherwise we'd have to declare Cobra a Christmas movie based on a minute long scene of Cobra cleaning his gun (with a cleaning kit he was hiding in an egg carton in the fridge for some reason) while a Toy R Us Christmas commercial plays on a tv.


So by your argument, It's A Wonderful Life isn't a Christmas movie either?  It's seen as the most iconic Christmas movie this side of Miracle on 34th Street, but it has even less substantive connection to the date than Die Hard does.

The framing of the story is set on Christmas, but the story itself is about George's life and the effect he's had on the world around him, not something that requires a specific date.  The only meaningful connection is a bell that happens to be on a Christmas tree, and really, they could find a bell anywhere else just as easily.  Despite that, nobody would ever second-guess its inclusion as a Christmas movie.  I'm not going to say "this should be included" or "that should be left out," but let's have a little consistency when we make the decisions.  If it's a Christmas movie, so is Die Hard.
 
2017-12-05 11:09:28 AM  
I bet it was a North Poll
 
2017-12-05 11:20:42 AM  

Last Man on Earth: HotWingConspiracy: naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.

There's really no end to the number of scenarios that could have been scripted to get him in to that building, it wasn't hinging on Christmas.

A Christmas movie is about Christmas, a movie merely taking place around Christmas doesn't qualify.

Otherwise we'd have to declare Cobra a Christmas movie based on a minute long scene of Cobra cleaning his gun (with a cleaning kit he was hiding in an egg carton in the fridge for some reason) while a Toy R Us Christmas commercial plays on a tv.

So by your argument, It's A Wonderful Life isn't a Christmas movie either?  It's seen as the most iconic Christmas movie this side of Miracle on 34th Street, but it has even less substantive connection to the date than Die Hard does.

The framing of the story is set on Christmas, but the story itself is about George's life and the effect he's had on the world around him, not something that requires a specific date.  The only meaningful connection is a bell that happens to be on a Christmas tree, and really, they could find a bell anywhere else just as easily.  Despite that, nobody would ever second-guess its inclusion as a Christmas movie.


The movie features an angel and christian themes, and as you said, ends triumphantly on Christmas eve with everyone rejoicing around a Christmas tree.

 I'm not going to say "this should be included" or "that should be left out," but let's have a little consistency when we make the decisions.  If it's a Christmas movie, so is Die Hard.

Then so is Cobra? It's an absurd contention.
 
2017-12-05 11:21:13 AM  

stoli n coke: oldfarthenry: Let's not try to appropriate Christmas away from the kiddies, neckbeards.
Little Timmy wants to watch Santa, reindeer & elves - not some exceptional 'merikun murdering foreign money-movers.

Die Hard has been a Christmas tradition round the house for more than 20 years. It's a good movie to put on in the background after Little Timmy goes to bed and the grownups have to start putting stuff together. are drinking and playing Cards Against Humanity.

 
2017-12-05 11:23:01 AM  

Last Man on Earth: HotWingConspiracy: naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.

There's really no end to the number of scenarios that could have been scripted to get him in to that building, it wasn't hinging on Christmas.

A Christmas movie is about Christmas, a movie merely taking place around Christmas doesn't qualify.

Otherwise we'd have to declare Cobra a Christmas movie based on a minute long scene of Cobra cleaning his gun (with a cleaning kit he was hiding in an egg carton in the fridge for some reason) while a Toy R Us Christmas commercial plays on a tv.

So by your argument, It's A Wonderful Life isn't a Christmas movie either?  It's seen as the most iconic Christmas movie this side of Miracle on 34th Street, but it has even less substantive connection to the date than Die Hard does.

The framing of the story is set on Christmas, but the story itself is about George's life and the effect he's had on the world around him, not something that requires a specific date.  The only meaningful connection is a bell that happens to be on a Christmas tree, and really, they could find a bell anywhere else just as easily.  Despite that, nobody would ever second-guess its inclusion as a Christmas movie.  I'm not going to say "this should be included" or "that should be left out," but let's have a little consistency when we make the decisions.  If it's a Christmas movie, so is Die Hard.


The only reason Its a Wonderful Life was even played is because someone screwed up the paperwork and the movie became public domain, free to broadcast for all time.
 
2017-12-05 11:28:28 AM  

rummonkey: The only reason Its a Wonderful Life was even played is because someone screwed up the paperwork and the movie became public domain, free to broadcast for all time.


Not the only reason.  It's also an excellent movie, Christmas movie or no.
 
2017-12-05 11:32:50 AM  
The Die Hard movies are the only Christmas movies I don't hate (other than Christmas Vacation).
 
2017-12-05 11:34:22 AM  

naughtyrev: The whole plot revolves around McClane going to see his wife at a Christmas party to try to reconcile. Without the holiday, he is not there, movie doesn't happen. Ho ho ho.


It also takes place on Christmas eve, and he's bringing presents to his kids! It is so much a Christmas movie.
 
2017-12-05 11:38:06 AM  

Rockbender: Next they'll be saying that Deadpool isn't a Valentine's Day movie...


I had that one pegged as an International Women's Day movie.
 
2017-12-05 11:39:04 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: The movie features an angel and christian themes, and as you said, ends triumphantly on Christmas eve with everyone rejoicing around a Christmas tree.


If we're going with "a movie with an angel and Christian themes," do we add Angels in the Outfield to the list as well?  As for the tree, nothing about the movie would have been remotely different if that had been, say, a big Thanksgiving feast instead.  Hell, that might have been even more appropriate.

HotWingConspiracy: Then so is Cobra? It's an absurd contention.


You're the only one who keeps bringing up Cobra, stop trying to make that stick.  You've argued that "there's really no end to the number of scenarios that could have been scripted to get him in to that building, it wasn't hinging on Christmas," and that's true enough, but they didn't pick any of those other scenarios.  They picked the one particular scenario that does revolve around Christmas, and it's hard to deny that the ideal of trying to reconcile with a loved one and move past your old grievances is a very Christmas-ey thing.  We can only fairly judge a movie by the scenario they picked, not the possible ones they didn't.
 
2017-12-05 11:41:09 AM  
KISS KISS, BANG BANG is also a nice xmas movie.
 
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