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(Task and Purpose)   Not news: The Army is selling its stock pile of 1911 pistols, the GI sidearm for over 50 years. Fark: selling them to the public. Here's where to get one   ( taskandpurpose.com) divider line
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2017-12-04 04:12:02 PM  
75 years is more than 50
 
2017-12-04 04:43:26 PM  
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If you get one, check them thoroughly. These are not shooters.  Cool collectors piece tho
 
2017-12-04 04:53:53 PM  
I have one. Import stamp says "Released by British Govt 1952". My Dad modified it a little to be a competition piece though. I rarely shoot it.
 
2017-12-04 05:16:21 PM  

Snaps: [coolgunsite.com image 551x427][View Full Size image _x_]

If you get one, check them thoroughly. These are not shooters.  Cool collectors piece tho


The article stated each one would be reconditioned by the Red Stone Arsenal any that were not in shooting condition would be destroyed.
 
2017-12-04 05:29:30 PM  
I'm not a big gun person but I'd think it'd be neat to own one
 
2017-12-04 05:42:26 PM  

Tom_Slick: Snaps: [coolgunsite.com image 551x427][View Full Size image _x_]

If you get one, check them thoroughly. These are not shooters.  Cool collectors piece tho

The article stated each one would be reconditioned by the Red Stone Arsenal any that were not in shooting condition would be destroyed.


Interesting, I wonder what that reconditioning entails. Might be ruining the value as an original for the sake of making them shootable.  I think I'd still give it a serious once-over before I shot one.
 
2017-12-04 05:46:42 PM  
I have two 45s, no 1911s though.

If I were to get another 45, it wouldn't be a pistol though....h&k usc 45. Buddy has one and its awesome.....
 
2017-12-04 05:49:02 PM  

ar393: I have two 45s, no 1911s though.

If I were to get another 45, it wouldn't be a pistol though....h&k usc 45. Buddy has one and its awesome.....


#@$^#= .mobile....

If I had the money I would also seriously consider an aero ASR in 9/40/45.....

My two 45s are an fnp45 with a threaded barrel (not the fnx, different slide) and an xds 45
 
2017-12-04 05:49:43 PM  
I might get one, price and history dependent.
 
2017-12-04 05:54:42 PM  
 I'd love to get one of these for no other reason than my father was issued one during World War II.
 
2017-12-04 05:56:25 PM  
If you intend to shoot, do not get one.
Clickey clackety is all I will say on the matter.
 
2017-12-04 05:57:14 PM  

Snaps: Tom_Slick: Snaps: [coolgunsite.com image 551x427][View Full Size image _x_]

If you get one, check them thoroughly. These are not shooters.  Cool collectors piece tho

The article stated each one would be reconditioned by the Red Stone Arsenal any that were not in shooting condition would be destroyed.

Interesting, I wonder what that reconditioning entails. Might be ruining the value as an original for the sake of making them shootable.  I think I'd still give it a serious once-over before I shot one.


A crapton of them will probably end up being scrapped (especially the WWII production runs, where quality was often exchanged for quantity). The near-end-of-issue-life production runs might be decent quality, though. Any that make it through the checks for stress fractures will probably get new barrels and firing mechanisms, as well as new grip safeties and the trigger-pull weight being re-set to factory standard.
 
2017-12-04 05:57:21 PM  
M1911.
Youtube y2hsGZSVG4E

Coincidentally, I watched this about an hour ago.
 
2017-12-04 05:58:33 PM  
I'll wait for 1715 pistol
 
2017-12-04 05:58:59 PM  
"Where to get one..."

Article: Good luck fighting every gun owner in the country over whatever scraps finally make it to the CMP, assuming it ever actually happens.
 
2017-12-04 06:00:19 PM  
(grumbles unhappily cuz I don't qualify)
 
2017-12-04 06:02:22 PM  
TL, DR: We're not even sure when they'll go on sale, if they'll go on sale, how many will go on sale, how much they'll cost, or if it will be a certain number every year for an unknown amount of time, but thanks anyway for your clicks. What we do know is that there will be a bunch of bureaucracy and paperwork involved.
 
2017-12-04 06:06:38 PM  
this is the second time this link has shown up.
Anywho
Good luck on getting one and better luck getting one in good condition.  Even better luck on getting one that is collectable.
The last time I checked, the Colt 1911 collectors handbook was  1200 pages.
If you want a close range man killer there are better modern variants.
That said, Browning really did get it right and it is an icon for a reason.

If you really want something interesting then you go for a colt 1900, 1903, 1905 (first year 45acp).

We are a Military family and I am the custodian of the family chest. I have 14 of the damn things.
Several are worth money because they are very early or have rare stampings. The rest are just mementos that tell a family's story..
 
2017-12-04 06:07:35 PM  

mrlewish: If you intend to shoot, do not get one.
Clickey clackety is all I will say on the matter.


Lol, hey did you drop a bag of coins?
No, my pistol 😐
 
2017-12-04 06:15:33 PM  
Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.
 
2017-12-04 06:15:34 PM  
I didn't see a price listed. Anybody know how much?
 
2017-12-04 06:16:49 PM  
One for each hand and please throw in a box of cigars.

Melvin Purvis lives!
 
2017-12-04 06:31:17 PM  

Farker Soze: Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.


This has to be a joke.

World War II and the years leading up to it created a great demand. During the war, about 1.9 million units were procured by the U.S. Government for all forces, production being undertaken by several manufacturers, including Remington Rand (900,000 produced), Colt (400,000), Ithaca Gun Company (400,000), Union Switch & Signal (50,000), and Singer (500).

Among collectors today, the Singer-produced pistols in particular are highly prized, commanding high prices even in poor condition.
From here.
 
2017-12-04 06:33:22 PM  

ZMugg: Farker Soze: Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.

This has to be a joke.

World War II and the years leading up to it created a great demand. During the war, about 1.9 million units were procured by the U.S. Government for all forces, production being undertaken by several manufacturers, including Remington Rand (900,000 produced), Colt (400,000), Ithaca Gun Company (400,000), Union Switch & Signal (50,000), and Singer (500).

Among collectors today, the Singer-produced pistols in particular are highly prized, commanding high prices even in poor condition.
From here.


You've been here for 14 years....and you aren't sure if that's a joke?......hmmmm
 
2017-12-04 06:44:57 PM  
Your blog sucks.
 
2017-12-04 07:01:35 PM  

ZMugg: Farker Soze: Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.

This has to be a joke.

World War II and the years leading up to it created a great demand. During the war, about 1.9 million units were procured by the U.S. Government for all forces, production being undertaken by several manufacturers, including Remington Rand (900,000 produced), Colt (400,000), Ithaca Gun Company (400,000), Union Switch & Signal (50,000), and Singer (500).

Among collectors today, the Singer-produced pistols in particular are highly prized, commanding high prices even in poor condition.
From here.


Riiiight, you ain't fooling no one. Next you'll tell me the Nazi made AK-47-looking rifle I threw out was worth something.
 
2017-12-04 07:03:37 PM  
I have a Norinco 1911 that I am in the process of selling. For a $350  gun it shot pretty well and had the 1911 trigger
 
2017-12-04 07:12:45 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: One for each hand and please throw in a box of cigars.

Melvin Purvis lives!


I was thinking more Il Duce

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2017-12-04 07:20:17 PM  
Funny to see the uniformed commenting on the quality of CMP firearms.

I plan on buying one.  Or two.
 
2017-12-04 07:23:25 PM  
Damn, 1st result GIS Singer 1911 sold for over $80,000
 
2017-12-04 07:32:22 PM  
so lets say i pass all these overbearing big gubberment regulations?  How much 'Merican plasma will i need to donate to buy one of those things?

tl:dr how much are they selling for? if they sell them?
 
2017-12-04 07:35:49 PM  

kkinnison: so lets say i pass all these overbearing big gubberment regulations?  How much 'Merican plasma will i need to donate to buy one of those things?

tl:dr how much are they selling for? if they sell them?


Rumor is a grand for rack grade. All the nice ones will go through CMP's auction process I'm sure.
 
2017-12-04 07:37:11 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Funny to see the uniformed commenting on the quality of CMP firearms.

I plan on buying one.  Or two.


I wouldn't buy any 1911 from US DOD inventory. I never saw a USGI 1911A1 that wasn't a piece of shiat. By the time you got it, it had probably been heavily used in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and had at least 100,000 rounds put through it. They typically bordered on dangerous to shoot.
 
2017-12-04 07:41:57 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: NotThatGuyAgain: Funny to see the uniformed commenting on the quality of CMP firearms.

I plan on buying one.  Or two.

I wouldn't buy any 1911 from US DOD inventory. I never saw a USGI 1911A1 that wasn't a piece of shiat. By the time you got it, it had probably been heavily used in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and had at least 100,000 some rounds put through it. They typically bordered on dangerous to shoot.


FTFY. Most probably aren't shot out simply because unless you're a bad ass you don't get issued much in the way of practice ammo. Most are probably ruined by too much admin handling if anything.
 
2017-12-04 07:43:04 PM  
I guess they never forgot 1911.
 
2017-12-04 07:47:31 PM  

drewogatory: forgotmydamnusername: NotThatGuyAgain: Funny to see the uniformed commenting on the quality of CMP firearms.

I plan on buying one.  Or two.

I wouldn't buy any 1911 from US DOD inventory. I never saw a USGI 1911A1 that wasn't a piece of shiat. By the time you got it, it had probably been heavily used in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and had at least 100,000 some rounds put through it. They typically bordered on dangerous to shoot.

FTFY. Most probably aren't shot out simply because unless you're a bad ass you don't get issued much in the way of practice ammo. Most are probably ruined by too much admin handling if anything.


I dunno. The pistols were loose, the sears worn, and zero finish left. They'd been shot a lot to get like that.
 
2017-12-04 07:53:07 PM  

Farker Soze: Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.


Someone out there is taking your comment seriously and is having a triple aneurysm.
 
2017-12-04 07:54:02 PM  

ZMugg: Farker Soze: Yeah, good luck getting anything but a shot out rattlebox.  Reminds me of the time this jerk sold me a 1911 that turned out to be made by a sewing machine company.  Can you imagine that?  What junk.  Joke's on him though, I traded it for a sweet hi-point.

This has to be a joke.

World War II and the years leading up to it created a great demand. During the war, about 1.9 million units were procured by the U.S. Government for all forces, production being undertaken by several manufacturers, including Remington Rand (900,000 produced), Colt (400,000), Ithaca Gun Company (400,000), Union Switch & Signal (50,000), and Singer (500).

Among collectors today, the Singer-produced pistols in particular are highly prized, commanding high prices even in poor condition.
From here.


For instance...
 
2017-12-04 07:54:16 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: drewogatory: forgotmydamnusername: NotThatGuyAgain: Funny to see the uniformed commenting on the quality of CMP firearms.

I plan on buying one.  Or two.

I wouldn't buy any 1911 from US DOD inventory. I never saw a USGI 1911A1 that wasn't a piece of shiat. By the time you got it, it had probably been heavily used in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and had at least 100,000 some rounds put through it. They typically bordered on dangerous to shoot.

FTFY. Most probably aren't shot out simply because unless you're a bad ass you don't get issued much in the way of practice ammo. Most are probably ruined by too much admin handling if anything.

I dunno. The pistols were loose, the sears worn, and zero finish left. They'd been shot a lot to get like that.


In a training command, sure. But I'm sure there were a ton of arms locker queens as well. The Navy had a ton for sure. Everyone would maybe get one magazine for familiarization, then they would get schlepped around by watch standers or shore patrol.
 
KIA
2017-12-04 08:00:39 PM  

Mikey1969: TL, DR: We're not even sure when they'll go on sale, if they'll go on sale, how many will go on sale, how much they'll cost, or if it will be a certain number every year for an unknown amount of time, but thanks anyway for your clicks. What we do know is that there will be a bunch of bureaucracy and paperwork involved.


Actually we know they will go on sale in a couple of months, they will sell up to 10,000 a year and the prices will be between $800 and $1000 for normal grade pieces.  Collector grade examples will be auctioned.
 
2017-12-04 08:28:32 PM  
what an annoying as f*ck "article"
 
2017-12-04 08:39:11 PM  
You'd have to be stoned. These things were shot to bits in the 70's or earlier. If they offer them at scrap values maybe, but not to shoot.
 
2017-12-04 08:40:26 PM  

KIA: Mikey1969: TL, DR: We're not even sure when they'll go on sale, if they'll go on sale, how many will go on sale, how much they'll cost, or if it will be a certain number every year for an unknown amount of time, but thanks anyway for your clicks. What we do know is that there will be a bunch of bureaucracy and paperwork involved.

Actually we know they will go on sale in a couple of months, they will sell up to 10,000 a year and the prices will be between $800 and $1000 for normal grade pieces.  Collector grade examples will be auctioned.


You can buy a nice, brand new Colt for that. Like I said, you'd have to be stoned.
 
2017-12-04 08:43:08 PM  
I've never shot a gun because they cost money and I'm poor, but someday when (if) i'm financially stable I'd love to get a 1911 because marksmanship sounds like a ton of fun, and I love mechanical things and vintage military stuff.
 
2017-12-04 08:46:44 PM  

Nick Nostril: You'd have to be stoned. These things were shot to bits in the 70's or earlier. If they offer them at scrap values maybe, but not to shoot.


Certainly not the screaming deal Garands are, but folks will snatch these up. $800 and I might do it myself, but not $1000. Now, if any of these were in .38 Super, I'd shoot you in the back and run over your dead body for one.
 
2017-12-04 08:53:32 PM  
FYI:

To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions:

Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.
Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org
 
2017-12-04 09:19:31 PM  

kkinnison: so lets say i pass all these overbearing big gubberment regulations?  How much 'Merican plasma will i need to donate to buy one of those things?

tl:dr how much are they selling for? if they sell them?


Current scuttlebutt is four figures for rack grade. Something about preserving collectors value. And you typically need to be part of a CMP affiliated club.

Even us gun nuts are turning our noses up at this release. For that kind of money you can get a very nice modern 1911.
 
2017-12-04 09:22:29 PM  

Flappyhead: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: One for each hand and please throw in a box of cigars.

Melvin Purvis lives!

I was thinking more Il Duce

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We'll split the difference.

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He's got just the one. He threw the other one at some guy.
 
2017-12-04 09:25:35 PM  

GodComplex: kkinnison: so lets say i pass all these overbearing big gubberment regulations?  How much 'Merican plasma will i need to donate to buy one of those things?

tl:dr how much are they selling for? if they sell them?

Current scuttlebutt is four figures for rack grade. Something about preserving collectors value. And you typically need to be part of a CMP affiliated club.

Even us gun nuts are turning our noses up at this release. For that kind of money you can get a very nice modern 1911.


I gotta think the people that really want these want them because of the history, however you to describe it, of the 1911.

If I were to get a 1911, I think it would be a s&w 1911 (sku 178011).
 
KIA
2017-12-04 09:30:02 PM  

GodComplex: kkinnison: so lets say i pass all these overbearing big gubberment regulations?  How much 'Merican plasma will i need to donate to buy one of those things?

tl:dr how much are they selling for? if they sell them?

Current scuttlebutt is four figures for rack grade. Something about preserving collectors value. And you typically need to be part of a CMP affiliated club.

Even us gun nuts are turning our noses up at this release. For that kind of money you can get a very nice modern 1911.


And for twice that you can get a sweet 2011 which is the finest shooting steel commonly available in the 21st century.

/ non-gun people probably think I am joking
// I'm not
/// Or am I?
 
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