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2017-12-01 08:16:16 PM  
Yasssssssss!!! I hope this is true!!!
 
2017-12-01 08:38:08 PM  
He probably has a few dollars in the bank, so he won't starve.
 
2017-12-01 08:55:33 PM  
Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.
 
2017-12-01 09:18:36 PM  

El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.


Nope. It's clear this a watershed moment, NBC would crush him.
 
2017-12-01 09:41:03 PM  

revrendjim: He probably has a few dollars in the bank, so he won't starve.


$60+k per day for years... He'll probably be fine.
 
2017-12-01 09:46:25 PM  

El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.


No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings. And current environment plus new allegations... No way in hell he gets out of the "for cause"
 
2017-12-01 10:05:12 PM  
Bring back Regis.
 
2017-12-01 10:15:04 PM  
My guess is that he was already told/warned for his behavior beforehand, and when this stuff came to light...Boom gone.

It's rare you get fired so quickly unless HR already knew.
 
2017-12-01 10:21:07 PM  

lindalouwho: El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.

Nope. It's clear this a watershed moment, NBC would crush him.


Yeah.  If I give a coworker an unsolicited dildo as a gift there's nothing in any contract I have with my employer that says I can't be fired.

Lots of things are protected, but unsolicited dildo gifting, even in the most mild way that phrase can be intended, is not something anyone should do at work.
 
2017-12-01 11:16:41 PM  

sno man: No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings


I still don't understand what he actually "did". He read the news, talked to asshole celebrities. He wants a $30 mill severance deal for that?
 
2017-12-01 11:37:24 PM  

Mugato: sno man: No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings

I still don't understand what he actually "did". He read the news, talked to asshole celebrities. He wants a $30 mill severance deal for that?


That and having to f*ck all the interns. A few further up the food chain. But the interns didn't even get the gig without getting boned. One even had to go to the hospital having passed out while getting boned, allegedly.
 
2017-12-01 11:37:34 PM  
Good.
 
2017-12-01 11:41:35 PM  

lindalouwho: this a watershed moment


It has nothing to do with either water or a shed
 
2017-12-01 11:51:13 PM  
Mike Douglas would have never behaved like this.
 
2017-12-01 11:54:46 PM  

syrynxx: lindalouwho: this a watershed moment

It has nothing to do with either water or a shed


Imma get a switch and take you out to the shed, son.
 
2017-12-01 11:55:26 PM  

sno man: Mugato: sno man: No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings

I still don't understand what he actually "did". He read the news, talked to asshole celebrities. He wants a $30 mill severance deal for that?

That and having to f*ck all the interns. A few further up the food chain. But the interns didn't even get the gig without getting boned. One even had to go to the hospital having passed out while getting boned, allegedly.


I think Mugato meant what he did at MSNBC that merited *having* a job, not what scummy shiat he did to get fired.
 
2017-12-01 11:56:23 PM  
When will we see his bearded, Ron Burgundy, 'milk was a bad choice' moment?
 
2017-12-01 11:58:05 PM  

Mugato: sno man: No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings

I still don't understand what he actually "did". He read the news, talked to asshole celebrities. He wants a $30 mill severance deal for that?


He was making $25M a year, and had a contract through the end of 2018.
Nah, that's out the window.
 
2017-12-02 12:08:01 AM  
Some of you forget lauer probably has dirt on the network and the people that run it.

He will win.  One way or another.
 
2017-12-02 12:11:50 AM  
I've been told of a moment when you get above about $10 million in untouchable savings where it becomes "fark you" money. All these people reached well above that level decades ago. In my case I'd just become more vocal in my pro-death position, but I value the pleasure of women, and you can't force that out of them. The shared pleasure cannot be forced or guilted out.
 
2017-12-02 12:19:43 AM  

pendy575: Some of you forget lauer probably has dirt on the network and the people that run it.

He will win.  One way or another.


You overestimate who he had access to, he was only on the Today Show.
He doesn't have the power here.
 
2017-12-02 12:23:24 AM  

pendy575: Some of you forget lauer probably has dirt on the network and the people that run it.

He will win.  One way or another.


he has gloria allred as his attorney
 
2017-12-02 12:28:38 AM  
This pleases me
 
2017-12-02 12:33:05 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: pendy575: Some of you forget lauer probably has dirt on the network and the people that run it.

He will win.  One way or another.

he has gloria allred as his attorney


Bwahahahaha. No.
 
2017-12-02 12:51:41 AM  

BalugaJoe: Mike Douglas would have never behaved like this.


Mike Douglas used to bring out Harry Chapin and have him sing Cats in the Cradle, for the sole reason of watching Mason Reese cry.
 
2017-12-02 01:21:23 AM  

BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.


Bring back Dave.
 
2017-12-02 01:22:24 AM  

Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.


Bring back Steve.
 
2017-12-02 01:41:52 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.

Bring back Steve.


Bring back Firefly.
 
2017-12-02 01:42:08 AM  

pendy575: Some of you forget lauer probably has dirt on the network and the people that run it.

He will win.  One way or another.


Does he really want all his dirty laundry aired in public?  What he did in his scummy dungeon office? I really doubt it.
 
2017-12-02 01:45:31 AM  

treesloth: Thong_of_Zardoz: Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.

Bring back Steve.

Bring back Firefly.


Okay...Rufus T.

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2017-12-02 01:50:40 AM  

treesloth: Thong_of_Zardoz: Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.

Bring back Steve.

Bring back Firefly.


Serenity rapped that up just fine. Graphically, but fine
 
2017-12-02 02:51:11 AM  

Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.


This is awkward.
 
2017-12-02 03:07:56 AM  

davidphogan: Harry_Seldon: BalugaJoe: Bring back Regis.

Bring back Dave.

This is awkward.


Well, then, just bring back J. Fred, and Dave doesn't have to get attacked by him again. Dave used to slip him bennies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Fred​_​Muggs
 
2017-12-02 03:34:37 AM  

sno man: El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.

No.. Dude was a long time horn dog, only reason he was still employed was ratings. And current environment plus new allegations... No way in hell he gets out of the "for cause"


Depends on what NBC knew and for how long.  If you allow the behavior to persist and don't enforce your policies across the board, and fairly at that, there's every chance he'd get some money.  Contract law is not as simple as you're making it.
 
2017-12-02 03:36:00 AM  
Lauer is worth anywhere from $60 million to over $100 million.  I think he's gonna be financially stable without the last years salary of his contract.
 
2017-12-02 03:45:37 AM  
 
2017-12-02 04:20:12 AM  

bdub77: My guess is that he was already told/warned for his behavior beforehand, and when this stuff came to light...Boom gone.

It's rare you get fired so quickly unless HR already knew.


This
 
2017-12-02 08:13:14 AM  

El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.


Nah, man.  Not only is being fired with cause worse for you in the immediate legal sense, it's also a damned near certain indicator that the company considers it worth the time and expense to actually take any attempt to legally contest the terms of the firing to court.  Given that generally speaking the employer essentially always "wins" such cases (they usually settle because the fired person accepts an amount that is quite literally less than the amount spent on the lawyers drawing up the settlement alone) with the exceptions being basically the equivalent of winning powerball, this kind of indicator means you're 100% completely shiat out of luck.

In this case, deciphering the thought process of the company isn't terribly hard:

1. They have a paper trail of concrete complaints, presumably short enough that it being aired in public will make it look like they took decisive action as soon as they definitively knew it was a problem.

2. The guy's contract was expensive, since at this point he wasn't actually being paid to do  anything, just being given what amounted to royalties for use of his likeness in the advertising because continuity of image is valuable in advertisements.  So the lawyer-hours aren't looking so comparatively large at the moment.

3. More publicity focused on how they fired their "star employee" despite the damage to the brand because the soulless corporation just cares so darned much about the safety of its valued female employees is a major plus that will go a long way to compensating for the financial hit that losing one of the network's faces represents.  Honestly, this going to court in a big, public, nasty way will probably save them more in ad copy and PR spin than it costs them in legal expenses.  They're actively rooting for him to attempt to contest at this point, every time it comes up they look a bit better.

I mean, I'd make a snide comment about capitalism and cynical PR moves, but... honestly, this is the good  side of capitalism, and why most of its serious intellectual advocates pair it with democracy and extremely open availability of information.  Public scrutiny making the moral thing and the profitable thing one and the same is pretty much how the founding fathers envisioned America working.

// The founders were... pretty farking cynical bastards, honestly.  But bright ones.
 
2017-12-02 08:16:08 AM  

bdub77: My guess is that he was already told/warned for his behavior beforehand, and when this stuff came to light...Boom gone.

It's rare you get fired so quickly unless HR already knew.


His goose was cooked when other media outlets were going to publish accounts of his activities.
As for being warned, I find it doubtful. This was ongoing since the Bryant Gumbel days, as long as
he was pulling in advertisers, all was good. This also throws light on why NBC had killed Ronan Farrow's
expose' on Harvey Weinstein. It was a little too close to their glass house.
 
2017-12-02 11:44:43 AM  
Moral Turpitude
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2017-12-02 02:25:28 PM  

El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.


I wonder if he had a morality clause in his contract.
 
2017-12-02 03:00:05 PM  

El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.


If he sues he will never work in TV again. The one thing that will get you blacklisted is costing the networks real money.

If he stays out of the lime light for a few years, then does a few soft talk shows showing how sorry he is and how much he has changed, he can be back on air and earning money within 5 years. Not at the levels he was but he can start rebuilding his career.
 
2017-12-02 03:18:23 PM  

Norfolking Chance: El_Perro: Until he sues NBC-likely in a confidential arbitration setting of some kind-claiming that what he did somehow doesn't qualify as "for cause" under his contract, and NBC quietly settles with him.

If he sues he will never work in TV again. The one thing that will get you blacklisted is costing the networks real money.

If he stays out of the lime light for a few years, then does a few soft talk shows showing how sorry he is and how much he has changed, he can be back on air and earning money within 5 years. Not at the levels he was but he can start rebuilding his career.


lololololololol

He will never ever ever be back on television
 
2017-12-02 03:19:12 PM  
He'll most probably never be hired for anything ever again.
 
2017-12-02 03:55:41 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Depends on what NBC knew and for how long. If you allow the behavior to persist and don't enforce your policies across the board, and fairly at that, there's every chance he'd get some money. Contract law is not as simple as you're making it.


This is his card to play.  If they knew (and face it, they probably did) and allowed him to stay they don't want that known.  He also can say it was "accepted" by them.  He will get paid.
 
2017-12-02 05:18:14 PM  

mjbok: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Depends on what NBC knew and for how long. If you allow the behavior to persist and don't enforce your policies across the board, and fairly at that, there's every chance he'd get some money. Contract law is not as simple as you're making it.

This is his card to play.  If they knew (and face it, they probably did) and allowed him to stay they don't want that known.  He also can say it was "accepted" by them.  He will get paid.


Yep, as the courts have noted, past accepted practices trump policy.  If you have a policy and don't enforce it when its violated, that policy is essentially legally irrelevant.
 
2017-12-02 06:14:33 PM  
Finally home... So Baby Buds are getting hosed by the refs and it's 3-1 Hartford with twelve and a half left in the third.
The non penalty shot call was shaky and the D that desperation tripped Miller owes the Goalie a dinner for sending Miller right though him and the net.
 
2017-12-02 06:22:43 PM  
finally wrong tabbed that doesn't still work, hunh.. had to happen sooner or later.
 
2017-12-02 06:41:49 PM  

BalugaJoe: Mike Douglas would have never behaved like this.


"I would never allow THAT!"
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2017-12-02 08:31:14 PM  
heard on the news that he was an a-hole douche to his Dutch wife and had a $5 M agreement with her if she would stay in the marriage. Now she is leaving.
Wonder if Matt has enuf set aside for the payout.

/ tax plan:
// tax income at 98% level for over $2 M bracket
/// they'll be so busy working at their 2nd/3rd job they won't have time to screw around

////MAGA '50's style
 
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