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(The Drive)   My life driving a flying shiatbox for the Navy that kept trying to murder me - Tales of a COD pilot   ( thedrive.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, United States Navy, aircraft, C-2, The Carrier, carrier, C-2 Greyhound, engine, air  
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2017-12-01 08:11:46 AM  
Perfect tag.  Nice find, subby.
 
2017-12-01 08:19:32 AM  
Things were shiatty in the 80's?  Fetch me mah vapors.
 
2017-12-01 08:37:59 AM  
That shiatbox does not belong off the ground. Gravity is supposed to tell you something.
 
2017-12-01 08:41:03 AM  
The Hunt for Red October (3/9) Movie CLIP - Turbulence (1990) HD
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2017-12-01 08:46:12 AM  
Thanks subby, that looks like an interesting read.
 
2017-12-01 09:04:40 AM  
Thanks, subby.  Real good read.  "whistling shiatbox"  and "pointy planes" lol
 
2017-12-01 09:07:33 AM  
I experienced a launch off carriers in a C-2 Greyhound, as a civilian contractor, post-Air Force career. Once I completed my task during the training cruise, I was rotated off the USS Kennedy on a COD flight back to Mayport NAS.

Catapult launches aren't that bad ... when everything goes right.
 
2017-12-01 09:09:26 AM  
I once flew in a Canadian Sea King off the back of one of the destroyers. Combined age of both was over 110 years old. They are extremely well maintained, though.
 
2017-12-01 09:17:12 AM  
COD Pilot? I bet you really hate campers and those guys that run around and kill everyone with knives.
 
2017-12-01 09:17:58 AM  
csb/
The photo in the article is of the Carl Vinson.  Nice to see she's racked up a lot of awards since I left in the early 1990s.  Winning the Battle E was a helluva morale booster for us.

/csb
 
2017-12-01 09:19:17 AM  
No rubber dogshiat? I am disappoint.
 
2017-12-01 09:23:13 AM  
Now that's a great article. Thanks subby
 
2017-12-01 09:29:13 AM  
So we rarely got meals and depended on our box lunches supplied by the carrier.

We used to call these "Box Nasties" in the Air Force (90s).
 
2017-12-01 09:40:20 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: I once flew in a Canadian Sea King off the back of one of the destroyers. Combined age of both was over 110 years old. They are extremely well maintained, though.


24 hours of maintenance are required for one hour of flight on those things - allegedly.
 
2017-12-01 09:45:58 AM  
A couple of my favorite lines from the article:

"I knew we were in trouble when the main landing gear passed us by."

"We normally didn't carry them [parachutes], passengers get so upset when you jump out and leave them behind."
 
2017-12-01 09:48:20 AM  

Archie Goodwin: [YouTube video: The Hunt for Red October (3/9) Movie CLIP - Turbulence (1990) HD]


Came for this, we're done here.
 
2017-12-01 10:03:26 AM  
Seriously all you need to know about military appropriations is covered in "The Pentagon Wars" (the book or the movie).

If it's not sexy it needs to do EVERYTHING and occasionally it needs to do everything AND be sexy.  Mission critical means nothing, where things get built means more than lives, etc.

Watch the movie for laughs and cringes, read the book if you want to cry.
 
2017-12-01 10:12:36 AM  
Just a thought for you, this man represents many Navy trained pilots from the era of Top Gun, and they're all aging out of commercial operations.
 
2017-12-01 10:18:44 AM  
That was a well written article and quite entertaining as well as informative.
 
2017-12-01 10:22:00 AM  
I thought you could only fly aircraft in Battlefield not Call Of Duty.  Clicks link....OHHHHHhhh, THAT COD.
 
2017-12-01 10:23:20 AM  
Transfer to JetBlue.
 
2017-12-01 10:26:44 AM  
At around 15,000 feet I started to get an RPM TIT fluctuation on the left engine.

I hear you man.  It's the worst thing in the world when your tits start fluctionating.
 
2017-12-01 10:28:54 AM  
Cool article subby.  Lots of unsung heroes in organizations like big business and the military.

/Writer is pretty talented at telling a good tale.  Probably would be fun to sit with and have a beer or 12.
 
2017-12-01 10:39:58 AM  

xtalman: Cool article subby.  Lots of unsung heroes in organizations like big business and the military.

/Writer is pretty talented at telling a good tale.  Probably would be fun to sit with and have a beer or 12.


Glad you enjoyed it, Tyler Rogoway, the interviewer, does these interviews every now and again.  He did one with a former Navy engineering officer back in July that was really interesting.  He's also done one with an F-14 guy, an F-111 pilot, a Blue Angel, and I think a submariner.  A couple of the older ones are on Foxtrot Alpha, the site Rogoway wrote for before The Drive.
 
2017-12-01 10:57:45 AM  

Polish Hussar: xtalman: Cool article subby.  Lots of unsung heroes in organizations like big business and the military.

/Writer is pretty talented at telling a good tale.  Probably would be fun to sit with and have a beer or 12.

Glad you enjoyed it, ...


Ah hah... I thought that there was a PH ... (smell isn't quite right but we'll go with it nonetheless...) smell to the submission.  Keep them coming, great stuff.

_/Tough luck last night.  It takes a special kind of (lack of) talent to lose to the Habs these days
_/_/not as bad as the Perds losing to Vancouver I'll grant you...
///maybe 'feel' instead of 'smell' - hoists one (several hours from now) in your general direction anyway
 
2017-12-01 10:59:23 AM  
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2017-12-01 11:15:59 AM  
Featured pilot - James wallace
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2017-12-01 11:18:07 AM  
JHC, that was entertaining. Hard to choose a "best anecdote," but the bit about the gear shift made me accidentally scare the next door neighbor's dog.
 
2017-12-01 11:27:04 AM  
That was a great read. Subby, you're to blame for the fact that I'm now behind on my work today!
 
2017-12-01 11:46:31 AM  

Uncle Eazy: No rubber dogshiat? I am disappoint.


A buddy's younger brother flew these things. That was the nomenclature he used.
 
2017-12-01 11:55:30 AM  
This must have been interesting...

USS Forrestal C-130 Hercules Carrier Landing Trials
Youtube ar-poc38C84
 
2017-12-01 12:15:06 PM  
I've had one landing aboard a carrier on a C-2, and (I think) 4 catapult launches. Flights themselves are rather rugged, you fly seated backwards, and hydraulic fluid can leak a bit. If you can imagine an amusement park thrill ride, that's relatively accurate, only without the specific safety mechanisms that ensure your vehicle stays in contact with the tracks. So... there's a higher risk of bad things, but given how many flights they make it's not 'update your will before you take this flight' dangerous.

NGC is currently producing updated versions of the E-2. There's been lots of opportunities to produce new versions of the C-2, but the Navy has declined. They are looking to using the CV-22 for most COD in the future; but, having seen CV-22s on the deck completely mess up the entire layout, I just don't think it's the best path forward. Better (in my mind) to buy new C-2s to go to the carriers and have CV-22s on the resupply ships for missions that need the vertical capability. When the CV-22s do head for the carrier, limit their impact to operations to a handful of minutes: land, unload, and leave.
 
2017-12-01 12:15:29 PM  

Karac: At around 15,000 feet I started to get an RPM TIT fluctuation on the left engine.

I hear you man.  It's the worst thing in the world when your tits start fluctionating.


I had one particular gif in mind, tried to search for it... and now i've got something to take care of for the rest of the day...
 
2017-12-01 01:51:34 PM  
Had to take one of these suckers when I was deployed to the Mighty Ike. Such a weird trip. Sitting backwards, can't really see out the window, flying fairly low, arrested landing light lit up 5 minutes after take off so every little bump you never knew what was going on.

Survived it though. One of the few E ticket rides the average squid gets to take.
 
2017-12-01 02:28:31 PM  

offacue: Thanks, subby.  Real good read.  "whistling shiatbox"  and "pointy planes" lol


What a whistling shiathouse looks like:

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2017-12-01 03:34:39 PM  
This just reminded me of Ye Olde Fark when FLYNAVY got his comeuppance.

Here's the thread, it's down a ways.  zap branigan called him out on it.
 
2017-12-01 04:12:19 PM  
That was a fun read, and the article about using converted S-3's (pulled out of their desert boneyard) was also good.

This line, "ut there was one tiny problem-you can't land a T-44 on the carrier," reminded me of the joke that you can land any plane on a carrier. Once.
 
2017-12-01 07:11:37 PM  
That was a great read.  Personally, I loved the "skipper ordered me to grow a beard to look older" part, I can totally see that.  I've got a buddy who just left the squadron to do the osprey testing.  Replacing the COD with a plopter will be challenging, to say the least.

CSB, when I successfully qualified in the Hornet (you bet it took me two tries) the COD guy coming to take is all of the boat counted heads and realized he had two more bodies than he had seats.  Naturally, the two jarheads got stuck on the bote.  On the plus side, we saw a shuttle launch, which was awesome, and I induced a laughing fit on our master chief when, during a man overboard drill, I said "Well, I guess I'm the senior dude, so is everyone here?"
\csb
\\I miss the Hornet
\\\If you meet a COD instructor, ask them to show you the White Knuckle Sleigh Ride patch
 
2017-12-01 09:44:39 PM  

Archie Goodwin: [Youtube c5WfxwnLlLU image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/c5WfxwnL​lLU]


CSB Time. You'll notice that although the interior shot appears to be a C2, the exterior landing shot is an E-2C. I was in the squadron (VAW-117) and onboard for the filming. They shot footage of the plane taxiing and Alec Baldwin exiting the aircraft. One of my buddies opened the hatch and was in the shot. When the movie came out, we were all excited to see Ron on the big screen. Of course the shot was cut jumps from the landing to Baldwin walking into  the island.
 
2017-12-01 09:51:14 PM  
For the crew in general, thr C-2was THE most important aircraft to land on the boat.

It brought the mail.
 
2017-12-02 01:58:26 AM  

oldfarthenry: Tr0mBoNe: I once flew in a Canadian Sea King off the back of one of the destroyers. Combined age of both was over 110 years old. They are extremely well maintained, though.

24 hours of maintenance are required for one hour of flight on those things - allegedly.


You're thinking Apache?
 
2017-12-02 08:40:46 AM  
My one ride on a COD I got to sit by a little window. No idea how that happened as I had to be the most junior person on the flight.

When I arrived in my new work center the Div. O looked at me and said, "What to you weigh stoolpigeon?"

I answered, "About 150 sir."

He looked disgusted and said, "We could have got 150 more pounds of mail and we got you instead."
 
2017-12-02 09:51:58 AM  

D_PaulAngel: That was a fun read, and the article about using converted S-3's (pulled out of their desert boneyard) was also good.

This line, "ut there was one tiny problem-you can't land a T-44 on the carrier," reminded me of the joke that you can land any plane on a carrier. Once.


With Jane's ATF, you can go in the mission editor and put anything in a mission. That's how I learned why they don't launch B2s from aircraft carriers. They sort of just fall over the edge and in to the water as soon as you try and take off. I did manage to get an F117 to successfully take off by backing it all the way to the back the the ship, and doing a combat take off by locking the breaks, bringing the engine to full power and then releasing the brakes.
And did manage to land a B2...in that I touch wheels to the deck. Things went less well when the wing hit the main structure of the tower.
 
2017-12-02 09:52:31 AM  
I was a COD pilot
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2017-12-02 10:23:52 AM  
Great read Subby. Reminded me of the stories some of the retarded Navy guys told at a college jorb I had refueling jets for USAir.
 
2017-12-02 12:20:51 PM  

stoolpigeon: My one ride on a COD I got to sit by a little window. No idea how that happened as I had to be the most junior person on the flight.

When I arrived in my new work center the Div. O looked at me and said, "What to you weigh stoolpigeon?"

I answered, "About 150 sir."

He looked disgusted and said, "We could have got 150 more pounds of mail and we got you instead."


Is the same Stoolpigeon of yon Slashot days???
 
2017-12-02 12:25:12 PM  

MythDragon: D_PaulAngel: That was a fun read, and the article about using converted S-3's (pulled out of their desert boneyard) was also good.

This line, "ut there was one tiny problem-you can't land a T-44 on the carrier," reminded me of the joke that you can land any plane on a carrier. Once.

With Jane's ATF, you can go in the mission editor and put anything in a mission. That's how I learned why they don't launch B2s from aircraft carriers. They sort of just fall over the edge and in to the water as soon as you try and take off. I did manage to get an F117 to successfully take off by backing it all the way to the back the the ship, and doing a combat take off by locking the breaks, bringing the engine to full power and then releasing the brakes.
And did manage to land a B2...in that I touch wheels to the deck. Things went less well when the wing hit the main structure of the tower.


Stupid superstructure getting in the way of the wing! I have a friend who flies for American and one of their flight sims has a Nimitz class carrier plopped down in Lake Michigan as an Easter egg of sorts. He's tried many times to land his 737's and 757's on it, but he has yet to fully pull it off. I haven't asked about it recently though so I'll have to check in again. (Especially since he starts 777 Training next year!)
 
2017-12-02 04:37:45 PM  
Yep - that's me. Still over at Slashdot - but mostly just lurking. Things aren't like the old days there.
 
2017-12-02 04:57:55 PM  

stoolpigeon: Yep - that's me. Still over at Slashdot - but mostly just lurking. Things aren't like the old days there.


It's been a looooooong time, but I posted as Shadow Wrought there, back in the day. Nice to know you're here too!
 
2017-12-02 07:21:28 PM  
I don't comment here much - and I don't read the comments too often. I really enjoy the descriptions. This is an unexpected and welcome pleasure though. I've had this fark account for 14 years and this is the first time I've ever run into someone I know on the site. I hope you are doing well.
 
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