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(BeatEd)   At a press gathering anouncing how he's selling-out to McDonalds for a trillion dollars, Nickleback's Chad Kroeger bitches about how downloads make artists poor   (beated.com) divider line 349
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2004-06-04 01:21:45 PM
BrotherAlpha
so true. i think iTunes, or something like it, is what the music industry should be pushing. i refuse to spend $15-20 for one song and a bunch of crap. the recording industry is just refusing to adapt to their consumers, and just want to keep their profits high. someone mentioned it earlier, bands don't make much off of CDs. metallica gets like $1 per CD sold and they are one of the highest. they make most their money off the $80 concert tickets, $25 t-shirts, etc.
 
2004-06-04 01:21:47 PM
Anyone else remember his feud with Matthew Good, another Canadian artist? I mean, dude, at least Matthew Good doesn't sing like two dozen other rock singers out there trying to rip off Staley or Eddie Vedder, and his songs don't all sound the same either.

Anyway, does anyone else think that Theory of a Deadman is just Nickelback using some Milli Vanilli-style puppets to try and pass themselves off as another band and sell more records?
 
2004-06-04 01:22:06 PM
I downloaded a dozen songs off Kazaa, morans

Moron, genius.



HAHA.. I wish I had a nickleback for everyone of you baited morans that fell for that one.. :)
 
2004-06-04 01:23:09 PM
DAVID CROSBY WAS RIGHT!
 
2004-06-04 01:23:13 PM


/Stop all the downloadin'!
 
2004-06-04 01:23:46 PM
sonsofthunder

you won 2 minuits? is that like a small eskimo?
 
2004-06-04 01:23:51 PM
catapultic
Creed broke up? That is farking awesome. My friends and I will toast our red headed sluts to that tonight.

Nickelback is much worse than Good Charlotte. At least with Good Charlotte, you can have fun singing along at the top of your lungs in your car. But the Girls and Boys song is crap.
 
Nth
2004-06-04 01:24:13 PM
why the record industry sucks

those brainiacs probably signed a healthy amount of points over to various producers for a deal. and now feel compelled to whine while shilling mcnuggets? oh the horror of having millions of dollars.
 
2004-06-04 01:24:20 PM
Someone needs to photochop the infamous "BJ Ronald" (NSFW) with Mr. Kroeger's and his flowing (and Dee Snider-ish) permmullet providing the entertainment.
 
2004-06-04 01:24:39 PM
Back in the day, records were made to support tours. Musicians made their money on the road. They released a record in an effort to get people out to their concerts. The business was about performing.

This whole "music industry is going to die" sob story is ridiculous. Yeah, some greasy-ass slimeball in a warm-up suit isn't going to get young hot "talent" to suck him off anymore.

The current music biz model does nothing for the bands. I live in SoCal and play in a band and am friends with a lot of other bands. I see how this shiat works day in and day out. I couldn't care less about some super-rich cro-mag canuck complaining about how he can no longer make millions off cd sales.

The music biz is simply stalling until they can figure out how to monetize the d/l.

Go ahead and have a listen to my band newfidelity.com The tracks are very rough, but they're free. Distribute at will.

For more SoCal indie music, go to headchange.com
 
2004-06-04 01:24:44 PM
wtf, creed is no more?

/invests stock in "Nickleback sucks" t-shirts
 
2004-06-04 01:25:42 PM
Anyone remember when the record industry was pitching a biatch fit in the early 80's because stereo manufacturers were making stereos with dual cassette decks for dubbing tapes and thus this signified the end for record companies. The sky is falling!

Or how about when Garth Brooks and friends were freaking out over used CD stores popping up everywhere. The record companies don't get a dime from used CD sales. The sky is falling!!

Now people are downloading music and the record companies are crying about how the sky is falling yet again.

People have been getting music without paying for it for decades now and by some miracle the big record labels make a profit. I know I for one have been introduced to many new bands BECAUSE of downloading music. When I download something I like I GO OUT AND BUY THE ALBUM! Will people download music and not buy the album, of course they will. Do I think the sky is falling? No but they want everyone to believe it is.
 
2004-06-04 01:27:08 PM
 
2004-06-04 01:28:09 PM
theflyingdutchman
I (my own personal opinion) think that legitimate music download sites are far more damaging to music than illegal downloading can ever hope to be.

Look at the sites. All the music is given the same value. Does anyone else see something wrong with that?

Musical geniuses should not be equated to pop artists as far as value of music goes. That's not right.


===
Since when was the amount charged equated with musical genius?

Music taste is subjective, anyway.
 
2004-06-04 01:29:06 PM
sonsofthunder
Moron, genius.

Get a brain, MORAN.
 
2004-06-04 01:30:30 PM
snowburnt
sonsofthunder

you won 2 minuits? is that like a small eskimo?


I thought it was a baroque dance style.
 
2004-06-04 01:30:35 PM
Creed is dead. Long live Nickelback!

/and the cry was heard resounding throughout the hills and valleys of the Kingdom of Suck...
 
2004-06-04 01:30:37 PM
chopped liver
Or remember when musicians used to play music because that's what they enjoyed doing...regardless of what they got paid? Beethoven rolls over in his grave...and he continues to decompose.
 
2004-06-04 01:31:14 PM
I think him and that creed guy are really the same person, hell bent on making the music scene suck. And it figures they are joining up with more suck for their tour met, 3doors down etc...

lame...

n~
 
2004-06-04 01:33:26 PM
chopped liver When I download something I like I GO OUT AND BUY THE ALBUM! Will people download music and not buy the album, of course they will.

I used to do that, but I stopped when they started sueing children.

Now I dont even download, I just listen to digital cable radio.
 
2004-06-04 01:33:52 PM
I remember buying the first-generation Sony Discman for close to $300, and buying my first CD for $18.99.

The sales guy told me "Dude, the only reason that CD is so expensive now is because you're a moran and buying 'new' technology. In a few years, the labels will be making nothing but CDs and new ones will cost like 7-8 bucks, tops."

Now, a portable CD player thousands of times superior to my Discman is about $18.99...and so are the discs that go in it.

Oh, he also said "Dude, biatchin' acid-washed jeans. I love Chess King, don't you?"
 
2004-06-04 01:34:29 PM
Why would you want to download Nickelback songs when the radio plays them every 6 minutes?

/really really really hates That Nickelback Song That Shall Not Be Named (and starts with the words "Never made it as a wise man")
 
2004-06-04 01:34:44 PM
The real threat of downloading music is that you find out how CRAPPY most of the music on those hit CDs is. If I download something and like it, I buy the cd, so many mp3s are tainted or of crappy quality they arent worth burning anyways.

farking losers, get some quality musicians behind all that marketing bullshiat and watch the sales soar.
 
2004-06-04 01:35:48 PM
Henchman and Kaladek are right on the money. I love music, and if I made a living at it (no matter how paltry) you wouldn't hear me biatching OR trying to stop downloading. Fark that assclown-hat Chad Kroeger and his shiatty, watered-down melodramatic nu-metal crap. I hope he chokes on his greasy hair while swimming and drowns.
Here's how it works: I download a song I like, in addition to several other songs by that artist. If several songs are good, I buy the CD. If not, up yours for only having one good song. Alternate version: I go to iTunes and pay a dollar for the one song I like and don't have to pay $20 for a CD of filler.
I'm with Henchman; I think I'll just start sending $20 checks to artists I like along with thank-you notes for a job well done. Not only am I giving them much more than they'd get from the record companies, I'm putting my money where my mouth is in regards to downloading. Everybody's happy (except for the RIAA, but screw them).
 
2004-06-04 01:36:04 PM
That perogue story is the most pathetic sob story I've ever heard.

How much does flour, water, and potatoes cost anyways?
 
2004-06-04 01:36:11 PM
"Young people dont think,"

he nailed it right on the head... that is why they listen to the garbage you produce....
 
2004-06-04 01:36:20 PM
chopped liver
Anyone remember when the record industry was pitching a biatch fit in the early 80's because stereo manufacturers were making stereos with dual cassette decks for dubbing tapes and thus this signified the end for record companies. The sky is falling!

=====
yeh, but the huge difference is that: when you got to the 3rd copy/generation of the cassette, it sounded like complete crap.
Digital copies can be reproduced millions of times with no loss in quality.
 
2004-06-04 01:36:31 PM
Holy crap! Don't you all realize how serious this is? This could be the end of Pearl Jam-soundalike rock as we know it! The music industry could crumble and that would leave us with only the real artists... it would be the dawn of a horrible golden age of music. Without crap like Nickleback, talented bands like The Mars Volta might start to get radio play. Is that the kind of world you want to live in - a world where talent and creativity are rewarded instead of greed and fancy hairdos? Huh? Is it, punks?

Hats off to DslainteC. I don't think I've ever heard anything more amusing or sad.

Kill the music industry! Revive the art of music! Execute retards like Kroeger! Death to crap rock!
 
2004-06-04 01:36:36 PM
MrPerspicacious

Yeah man, those were good times. Thank goodness there are still some bands out there that play for the sake of playing. Too bad they don't get radio play.
 
2004-06-04 01:37:02 PM
Wow, that video of Nickleback being hit by rocks is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Thanks!
 
2004-06-04 01:37:30 PM
MrPerspicacious

Thats a bad example. Beethoven was an egotistical asshole. Really.

He would march everywhere and demand shiat. Why? "Because Im Beethoven!"

/no, im not kidding.
 
2004-06-04 01:37:33 PM
 
2004-06-04 01:38:25 PM
CornFedIowan
(and starts with the words "Never made it as a wise man")

You are a bad, bad man.
 
2004-06-04 01:40:04 PM
Nickelback Value Meal : Extra large wah-mburger and french cries
 
2004-06-04 01:41:33 PM
OK, lots of people on here saying "Creed broke up"...does anyone have a link? I need proof! BRING ME SCOTT STAPP"S HEAD ON A PLATTER!

Death to all posers....
 
dam
2004-06-04 01:41:36 PM
Those of you bashing Nickelback:

But do you think you opinion really matters to Nickelback? You don't like their music, so even if p2p networks didn't exist you still wouldn't buy their album, yes? You see, there are people who do like their music (if there weren't they wouldn't have a record contract), but instead of buying it they just download it because they are cheap-asses. Not liking something and liking it enough to download it are two very different things.
 
2004-06-04 01:44:12 PM
For sonsofthunder...



BTW, does anyone have a clue as to what the sign cropped out on the right says? That's the one thing that drives me crazy about this pic.
 
2004-06-04 01:44:20 PM
The only band I find worth buying now is Celldweller. A fine band.

As for purchasing music in the past, I have boxes and boxes in my basement full of tapes and CDs. If I liked a band, I bought EVERYTHING they put out. I was an obsessive collector. I gave a ton to the record labels. I believe I personally funded the metal hair band movement in the 80s.

Sorry about that.
 
2004-06-04 01:44:43 PM
I win the prestige of everyone I know, and can claim title of Master of the Universe. Sorry, no sharing.
 
2004-06-04 01:45:08 PM
Now, a portable CD player thousands of times superior to my Discman is about $18.99...and so are the discs that go in it.

Good farking point! I don't know what this means but it made me go "huh!"
 
2004-06-04 01:45:08 PM
Hmm. The new Guster live CD just came out. I could have downloaded it, or bought the CD and got the DVD that comes with it.

I bought the CD/DVD.

I also bought Ike Reilly's album off of Itunes today for $10.

That being said, I do download a lot of one hit wonder type of stuff, and how I got into bands like Guster, Jurassic 5, Built to Spill was all via mp3.

so, switch the delivery method/content. give something else besides the music people want to pay for.
 
2004-06-04 01:45:17 PM
dam

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate farkin' Nickelback, man!
 
2004-06-04 01:47:26 PM
radiofreewill: BTW, does anyone have a clue as to what the sign cropped out on the right says?

"Freedom r0x0r"?
 
2004-06-04 01:47:29 PM
"Id be surprised if young people know what the hell Sam The Record Man or HMV was. Everyone just goes to the computer, downloads whatever the hell they want, they burn it and then they just play it in their cars. Thats killing the music industry."

Yeah, aren't these the places that put all of the independently owned music stores out of business? You know, those places where it was cool to just go an hang out because they played awesome farking music, and would spin a cd, record, or tape for you if you wanted to listen to it before you bought it to make sure it wasn't crap. Yeah, I know Same the Record Man and HMV, or at least plenty of places like them.
 
2004-06-04 01:48:32 PM
Nickelback is the new Creed.
 
2004-06-04 01:48:36 PM
zvoidx

There is a big difference between the quality of an MP3 and even a 1st gen cassette, even access to the material for that matter. I was just trying to point out that record companies have been giving us the same song and dance for quite some time yet they still manage to feed their children.
 
FKA
2004-06-04 01:48:38 PM
Never again
 
2004-06-04 01:48:53 PM
Maybe if Nickleback made music people actually wanted to buy they wouldn't be in this mess.

However most of my favorite bands I've started out listening to by downloading a bunch of their songs of kazaa. After listening to them for a while, if I really like them, I go out and start buying all their cds. If I don't like them, in the trash can they go.

I've bought more cds with this method than I ever did before I started using file sharing.
 
2004-06-04 01:48:55 PM
This dude says there won't be any more music, whatever. People have always made music, and will continue to do so. And furthermore, some of the best concerts I have been to have been free concerts by local musicians, people that were not signed to any crappy record label. What will happen eith the down;oading is that it may break up the monopoly of major labels, who push crap like nickelback and Usher down our throats. To quote Mark Wahlberg from Three Kings "this is bad music; this is bad for you."

As I side note, I own over 200 cds, and an audiophile quality stereo on which I play them. And none of them are nickelback. In the player now - Jeff Beck, Diana Krall, Frank Zappa, Dave Brubeck, Steely Dan.
 
2004-06-04 01:49:00 PM
Those of you bashing Nickelback:

(opinion image here)


Opinions can be wrong. I can say it's my opinion that the Mona Lisa is a terrible piece of art. I would be wrong, even if I didn't like that particular piece.

/so, it's a fact: nickelback sucks
 
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