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(BeatEd)   At a press gathering anouncing how he's selling-out to McDonalds for a trillion dollars, Nickleback's Chad Kroeger bitches about how downloads make artists poor   (beated.com) divider line 349
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2004-06-04 12:48:46 PM  
Seems we have more and more to apologise for every year. What's up with that? Are we a breeding ground for no-talent assclowns, or do we blame the people who buy their shiat?

Of course we're not a breeding ground for no-talent assclowns. At least, no more so than any other country. For every irritating export we have like Nickelback, I can think of a half-dozen US artists that are undertalented and overplayed. It's the same law that applies; people like tepid, repetitive stuff that they can recognize, and then don't give new artists a chance. What's worse is that when a Canadian artist starts making it big in the U.S., that's when most Canadians jump on the bandwagon and start treating them like some hero. There are tons of Canadian artists that are very talented and worthy of the public's attention who simply don't get it for the same reason good, less-mainstream bands anywhere else don't get it.
 
2004-06-04 12:48:56 PM  
 
2004-06-04 12:48:58 PM  
Want to support the artists? Here's a few suggestions:

1. Go to their concert. Buy their T-shirt. They get a lot of cash off of live performances.
2. Download their music. If you like it, send the artist a personal check for, say, 5 bucks. That's more than they'd get for the album in royalties, and the record company that's screwing them gets nada.
 
2004-06-04 12:49:05 PM  
gopher321


NutznGum:"Canada's shame. (Along with Celine, Shania, Bryan adams and Avril"

Seems we have more and more to apologise for every year. What's up with that? Are we a breeding ground for no-talent assclowns, or do we blame the people who buy their shiat?


Its not entirely our fault. There aren't enough Canadians to buy music to keep these clowns in business. We all have our part to play in this tragedy.

And for every 10 pop tarts and no talent bands we produce, we make one Neil Young
 
2004-06-04 12:49:07 PM  
I will download a few songs from a band to see if their album is worth buying. Most of the time the single is good and the rest of it sucks.

Of course the only way to hear new music is to listen to something other than a Clear Channel owned station.

Nickelbacks singer is just trying to sound like the putz from Creed who is doing a poor mans Layne Staley.
 
2004-06-04 12:49:10 PM  
Sammy Hagar + Ugly ass dog = Chad Kroeger
 
2004-06-04 12:49:15 PM  
The reason the name of the band is Nickelback is once you download the song and listen to it you want your nickle back.

i gotta big bag of nuthin'
 
2004-06-04 12:49:49 PM  
Nickelback, Nickelback... nope, none on my playlists, legal or otherwise.
 
2004-06-04 12:49:55 PM  
I love these promotions that McDonald's is doing, I think Pepsi did one recently, too, where if you get a special code underneath your soda lid it's worth a FREE DOWNLOAD! WOW, ONE FREE DOWNLOAD??? While I was filling in my personal information on the Pepsi website I downloaded a dozen songs off Kazaa, morans.

Also, yeah, I like the message he's sending: "downloading music is bad. Unless you buy a Big Mac, then it's awesome!"
 
2004-06-04 12:50:21 PM  
A lot of bands get a start by offering free downloads. Music execs frequent the host sites to see who's downloading what, and if they see signifcant traffic, they look at the artist.

Metallica was famous before they even had a record deal. They had already booted Dave Mustaine for being a Drunk when they got the record deal. They got famous from a bootleg tape well before being offered a deal

Maybe he's pissed no one is downloading his crap. They are OK, nothing special
 
2004-06-04 12:50:22 PM  
No no no no no!

This talentless hick should know that when quoting Marilyn Manson try not to adlib...

Babble babble biatch biatch
Rebel rebel party party
Sex sex sex and don't forget the "violence"
Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad-and-lonely
Stick your STUPID SLOGAN in:
Everybody sing along.
 
2004-06-04 12:50:25 PM  
Apparently the submitter and most Farkers are immoral and socialist. When you guys finally move out of your mother's house, you'll change your tune.

Stop stealing music and get a real job!
 
2004-06-04 12:50:33 PM  
"Id be surprised if young people know what the hell Sam The Record Man or HMV was. Everyone just goes to the computer, downloads whatever the hell they want, they burn it and then they just play it in their cars. Thats killing the music industry."

Yah, I know what those stores are. Thats where I can buy albums from bands whose music I've previously downloaded and liked enough to get their CD, because I know it won't be the samn damn song over and over again.

But I'm feeling way too damn good to ever buy a Nickleback CD, or even download any of their songs.

That awful band makes me cringe when they come on the radio. My how the rock radio in Boston has deteriorated!

farkin' Hill-man.

/Won't buy Nicklebacks Maxi-single.
 
2004-06-04 12:51:24 PM  
I hate that asshole.
 
2004-06-04 12:51:43 PM  
When I first saw this walking rectum on the video for the single from the Spiderman movie, I swear to God I thought it was supposed to be a joke.

Him staring into the camera, emoting with all the intensity and skill of a 3rd-grader playing an onion in the "Special" school's nutrition play.

I can't wait for the day when the only "royalties" get gets is when "How you remind me" is licensed by a company that sells a laxative with an alarm on it to let you know that it's time to shiat.
 
2004-06-04 12:52:39 PM  
Henchman: Isn't it better to love your favorite band by just not supporting them at all if they are signed to a major label? Unfortunately going to their concerts, buying their t-shirts, et al, is just supporting them while a label still has them locked down.

They should ditch their label altogether before you support them.
 
2004-06-04 12:53:09 PM  
Never heard of perogies. Is this some kind of small canadian dog?
/doesn't get out much
 
2004-06-04 12:53:17 PM  
And while we're on the subject, the original separated-at-birth theory regarding Chad Kroeger involved Albrecht Durer.



End of story.
 
2004-06-04 12:54:05 PM  
The most successful band of all time allows FREE downloading of almost ALL of their concerts in high quality lossless compression directly off of the soundboard.

Check it out here!

While you may not like their music, they are _still_ a multi-million dollar worldwide industry and have played music in front of more people then any other group EVER.

Why doesnt anyone ever mention this?
 
2004-06-04 12:54:33 PM  
The rational side of me says he has a right to protect his intellectual property within the means of the law.

The emotional side of me says he's gunning to outsuck Creed in a sucky coup de suck.
 
2004-06-04 12:54:35 PM  
Great, Now I hate McNuggets and Perogies.

Everyone just goes to the computer, downloads whatever the hell they want, they burn it and then they just play it in their cars. Thats killing the music industry."

well now your killing the fast food industry, I say we are a bout even
 
2004-06-04 12:54:39 PM  
This is a Perogie (sic) it's spelled........Pierogi!!!
Polish Dumpling?????

 
2004-06-04 12:55:00 PM  
Actually it is spelled Pierogies. They are basically Polish ravioli. Pasta stuffed with mashed potatos.

They are very good.
 
2004-06-04 12:55:01 PM  
Not a big Nickelback fan here...but he's right. Pirating has an appreciably negative impact on the music biz.

So, what should they do about it?

New distribution medium? Won't matter. The genie is already out of the bottle. MP3s can easily be made from an analog source.

Better content? Nope! Musical taste is purely subjective. All the asshats who claim, "The music industry is fuked because their content blows! God I hate Britney Spears!", are wrong and their point is moot.

So. The music biz as we know it will cease to exist in a matter of years. Period. Game over. Am I wrong here?
 
2004-06-04 12:55:11 PM  
Illegal downloading isn't the problem. It's the radio stations playing their music over and over and over again that's making me SO SICK of this stupid band. You don't need to buy their album, just turn on the radio to listen to the suckfest.
Oh, and Canada, you don't need to apologize more than once. After all, you did give us Fefe Dobson.
 
2004-06-04 12:55:14 PM  
bludstone
Why doesnt anyone ever mention this?

Because it completely invalidates their point?
 
2004-06-04 12:55:41 PM  
I for one believe that anyone who is caught downloading Nickleback songs should be hurled into the sun. Not for piracy but for having an awful taste in music.

Poor no-talent bastard!
 
2004-06-04 12:55:43 PM  
===================================
Old and busted: Metallica
New hotness: Nickelback
===================================
 
2004-06-04 12:55:59 PM  
14:59

hes going to need all the royalties from selling cds in the future because his 15 minutes of fame are disappearing.
 
2004-06-04 12:56:13 PM  
DSlainteC that site you linked to is hilarious!

Yes, they do sound just alike. Unlike most others on this thread, I like those songs just fine. I wouldn't buy them, I wouldn't download them, but I also wouldn't change the station because they were playing on the radio.
 
2004-06-04 12:56:27 PM  
mmmm...that's what I was waiting for!

/serve with onions...delicious
 
2004-06-04 12:56:50 PM  
Terminal Frost - That was the best summerization of why people download music I've ever heard. Good shiat.

PS: Nickelback sucks
 
2004-06-04 12:57:09 PM  
Him staring into the camera, emoting with all the intensity and skill of a 3rd-grader playing an onion in the "Special" school's nutrition play.

Mr. Coffee Nerves , thank you for making me laugh out loud when my co-workers know I've got work to do. Man, now I'm picturing Kroeger dressed as an onion. Classic.
 
2004-06-04 12:57:14 PM  
crawlspace

Not if the PIRATE act passes. Then the feds are responsible for going after downloaders, instead of the RIAA.

Do you know what that is called, kiddies?
 
2004-06-04 12:58:09 PM  
I think this guy should be taken out behind the nearest building and shot for his part in that irritating "Hero" song from the Spiderman movie.
 
2004-06-04 12:58:48 PM  
Oh, and on another note...why does everybody hate this guy? I haven't seen a rockstar so hated since Quiet Riot's Kevin Dubrow.
 
2004-06-04 12:59:19 PM  
Chad Kroeger = Greased Canadian Jesus

/somethingawful
 
2004-06-04 12:59:34 PM  
Look they can say what they want, but

Downloadin' AIN'T going away.

Screw the record companies. They're sticking it to the artists and the consumers.

Artists stand to make cash organizing tours and selling their OFFICIAL merchandise. If they wanna make a plug on how the pirated shiat is poor quality or doesn't have the cool booklet or whatever, fine.

But the real villians are the RIAA and the record companies themselves.

They're becoming OBSOLETE. They can't handle it, or the huge cashflow they're used to, so they're striking back and revealing themselves to be the assholes they always were...
 
2004-06-04 12:59:44 PM  
Music sharing only truly hurt bands that put out one catchy song on an other wise shiatty CD. And those bands deserve to go broke.
 
2004-06-04 01:00:01 PM  
gopher321
Seems we have more and more to apologise for every year. What's up with that? Are we a breeding ground for no-talent assclowns, or do we blame the people who buy their shiat?

Nah, Canada breeds some good artists too. Finger Eleven immediately comes to mind.
 
2004-06-04 01:00:10 PM  
Who?

Bush, Creed, Nickleback.. it's all the same crap.

Never heard of perogies.

They are patato filled things kinda like raveolis. They are very tasty.
 
2004-06-04 01:00:13 PM  
"Young people dont think," says Kroeger with more than a hint of anger in his voice.

Actually, i think they think just fine. They thought of a way to bypass your crazy expensive CD and get the one song they like, all for free! Friggin genius! And, with the internet, you're pretty much screwed. You send me anything encoded in one's and zero's, someone's going to find a way to break it and share it to the world.

So maybe it's your turn to think. Maybe you could offer us something we can't get for free, or at least not easily. One thing i hate about mp3's gotten fron p2p are that they're never categorized correctly. It's worth money to me (and others, i'm sure) to buy mp3's with perfectly detailed track information. Also, french band Air recently released Walkie Talkie with, get this, a bonus video DVD! They actually gave me a reason to want the CD!

This reminds me of those folks who put out big bowls of candy on halloween so they don't have to get up and answer the door. Sometimes they'll leave a little sign saying to only take one. What do you do as a kid when you come to this house? Most kids dump the entire bowl in their bag. This is their nature as young capitalists growing up in a capitalist country. Some stupid sign isn't going to stop what a they see as a sure deal. Immoral, yes. Profitable in the economic sense, oh yeah.

So, there is an opportunity to make money in this, but someone's got to find out what they kids want. Surely name calling isn't the best way to go. Your stupid kids want positive reinforcement.
 
2004-06-04 01:00:18 PM  
what a dumb nad
 
2004-06-04 01:00:24 PM  

===================================
Old and busted: Metallica
New hotness: Nickelback
===================================

...And notice that 1 has to do with "metal" and the other "nickel"

/means absolutley nothing
 
2004-06-04 01:00:30 PM  
After he stops music downloading. Nickleback and McDonalds will team up to stop this guy

 
2004-06-04 01:01:28 PM  
Makes be ashamed to be Canadian....

Then I listen to Sam Roberts and know everything will be okay.

 
2004-06-04 01:01:55 PM  
but you see...it's ok. By being able to download one of their songs for free, you've already heard every single one of them!

/been said before, I know...just reiterating
 
2004-06-04 01:02:41 PM  
New name for the ad campaign...

"McNickelback"

eh? EH?
 
2004-06-04 01:03:06 PM  
Can we make The Higgins boys and Gruber take Nickleback's place?

Because I'd pay for that.
 
2004-06-04 01:03:15 PM  
The only thing he owns is his live performance. No matter what the law says, he can't protect recorded versions of that performance. And intentionally distributing recordings puts that in the public realm. Imagine trying to enforce copyright laws on printed material. Why are there even copy machines in the library? The protection is enforcable once the recording entity reaches a certain redistribution size, but is unmanageable if redistribution occurs at the smallest level (one-one). Make a living off of your live performances. Create some added value in the recorded material that you sell. Stop wasting your efforts on controlling each individual's value systems.
 
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