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(DW)   What do you do with a Holocaust-denier? If you're a German artist, you build a mini-replica of the Holocaust memorial in front of their home   ( dw.com) divider line
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2017-11-23 10:50:24 AM  
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2017-11-23 11:00:35 AM  
♪ What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Early in the morning ♪
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2017-11-23 11:06:26 AM  
That will change his mind.
 
2017-11-23 11:11:28 AM  
Wow, that's either totally passive aggressive or maximum trolling. Or perhaps both.

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2017-11-23 11:56:01 AM  
Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.
 
2017-11-23 12:02:38 PM  
I did Nazi this coming..
 
2017-11-23 12:02:39 PM  
Das ist gut!
 
2017-11-23 12:03:44 PM  
Now that's how you art.

This group is bad ass.
 
2017-11-23 12:19:09 PM  
I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.


Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).
 
2017-11-23 12:21:54 PM  
I think his stance is more 'let's not build reminders about the holocaust' (markers in street cobblestones, art/memorial exhibits), rather than saying it didn't happen. I personally disagree with this stance, and I applaud the carefully planned maximum trolling they did.
Sidenote: the original installation in Berlin is moving and effective.
 
2017-11-23 12:46:01 PM  

vpb: That will change his mind.


I don't think that's the point.
 
2017-11-23 12:53:40 PM  

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.


He intentionally skirts it as much as he legally can.

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2017-11-23 01:06:25 PM  

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Wait, huh? This from where, /pol/ , Reddit, Something Awful?.
 
2017-11-23 01:10:45 PM  

vpb: That will change his mind.


Some minds can't be changed.  But they can be publicly shamed for their inhumane beliefs in a non-violent way up until the day they die of natural causes, thereby leaving the world a better place.
 
2017-11-23 01:14:24 PM  
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What is this? A Holocaust for ants!
 
2017-11-23 01:17:06 PM  
If you're trump you make them a top advisor
 
2017-11-23 01:20:27 PM  

CygnusDarius: Dr.Fey: [img.fark.net image 525x165][View Full Size image _x_]

Wait, huh? This from where, /pol/ , Reddit, Something Awful?.


I, too, am curious about the source of this and some explanation as I can't entirely make sense of it.
 
2017-11-23 01:24:16 PM  

Unobtanium: ♪ What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
What shall we do to the Holocaust denier?
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Erect concrete blocks of different sizes
Early in the morning ♪


Way, hey, up he Reichses...
 
2017-11-23 01:43:13 PM  
Just once, he needs to be rounded up at night, questioned about where he thinks he's being taken and what will happen to him.  I'm sure the little scary movie in his head will put a lie to his denial.
 
2017-11-23 01:48:17 PM  
Now that's trolling with style.
Having actual facts on your side really helps to justify the trolling as well.
 
2017-11-23 01:49:33 PM  

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.


Read the article.  While seeing the Holocaust Memorial as a source of German shame, there was nothing in the article to suggest that he was a denier.

These artists wanted to do "performance art" by feeding refugees to a tiger.  They don't seem much better than those they protest against.
 
2017-11-23 01:50:10 PM  

Mercutio74: vpb: That will change his mind.

Some minds can't be changed.  But they can be publicly shamed for their inhumane beliefs in a non-violent way up until the day they die of natural causes, thereby leaving the world a better place.


I'm okay with it if it just annoys him. Anything that makes an irredeemable asshole's life more miserable is a worthwhile pursuit.

I guess I'm okay with stigginit on a case by case basis, just not as a system of government.
 
2017-11-23 01:53:54 PM  

ElPrimitivo: Mercutio74: vpb: That will change his mind.

Some minds can't be changed.  But they can be publicly shamed for their inhumane beliefs in a non-violent way up until the day they die of natural causes, thereby leaving the world a better place.

I'm okay with it if it just annoys him. Anything that makes an irredeemable asshole's life more miserable is a worthwhile pursuit.

I guess I'm okay with stigginit on a case by case basis, just not as a system of government.


Read the article and see what untedeemable act he committed.  Can't be worse then wanting to feed refuges to a tiger in the name of art.
 
2017-11-23 01:55:01 PM  
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2017-11-23 02:23:34 PM  
Why are Holocaust deniers always the sort of people with their own plans to purge large numbers of people? Why don't they ever have a crazy idea, like all the missing persons were transported to the future when they'll repopulate the planet?
 
2017-11-23 02:32:02 PM  

clowncar on fire: ElPrimitivo: Mercutio74: vpb: That will change his mind.

Some minds can't be changed.  But they can be publicly shamed for their inhumane beliefs in a non-violent way up until the day they die of natural causes, thereby leaving the world a better place.

I'm okay with it if it just annoys him. Anything that makes an irredeemable asshole's life more miserable is a worthwhile pursuit.

Read the article and see what untedeemable act he committed.  Can't be worse then wanting to feed refuges to a tiger in the name of art.


Your understanding of irony and art is matched only by your understanding of politics and current affairs.
 
2017-11-23 02:33:21 PM  
well, sounds like they didn't get permission to build it, so it won't be there long. Shame.
 
2017-11-23 02:36:51 PM  

Pixter: Sidenote: the original installation in Berlin is moving and effective.


THIS
I spent four hours inside it once. The idea of it is that the blocks are constantly stopping you from seeing or acknowledging people and things around you; you start in at the edges where the blocks are one to two feet tall, and as you continue meandering inside the blocks get taller and wider until they're fifteen feet tall and blocking out the daylight.
The symbolism is that's how Germany got to that point in history, by a gradual increase of suppression; and it also shows how that once you were inside of a concentration camp people only caught glimpses of each other and were afraid to interact.
 
2017-11-23 02:40:42 PM  

appliancide: clowncar on fire: ElPrimitivo: Mercutio74: vpb: That will change his mind.

Some minds can't be changed.  But they can be publicly shamed for their inhumane beliefs in a non-violent way up until the day they die of natural causes, thereby leaving the world a better place.

I'm okay with it if it just annoys him. Anything that makes an irredeemable asshole's life more miserable is a worthwhile pursuit.

Read the article and see what untedeemable act he committed.  Can't be worse then wanting to feed refuges to a tiger in the name of art.

Your understanding of irony and art is matched only by your understanding of politics and current affairs.


Thanks.

And your ability to read, properly comprehend, and then totally cock up a short article is equally impressive!

Maybe we can be friends.
 
2017-11-23 02:41:28 PM  

clowncar on fire: Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Read the article.  While seeing the Holocaust Memorial as a source of German shame, there was nothing in the article to suggest that he was a denier.

These artists wanted to do "performance art" by feeding refugees to a tiger.  They don't seem much better than those they protest against.


Yeah, a little context on the tiger feeding thing.

http://m.dw.com/en/political-art-grou​p​-sets-up-roman-style-arena-for-refugee​s-to-be-devoured-by-tigers/a-19338144
 
2017-11-23 02:47:52 PM  

Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).


What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?
 
2017-11-23 02:55:18 PM  

clowncar on fire: Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Read the article.  While seeing the Holocaust Memorial as a source of German shame, there was nothing in the article to suggest that he was a denier.

These artists wanted to do "performance art" by feeding refugees to a tiger.  They don't seem much better than those they protest against.


Yeah, and didn't this guy also say the Irish should eat their babies?  Or am I thinking of the wrong fellow.
 
2017-11-23 03:11:19 PM  

Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).


That would hurt the feelings of precious snowflake white American men, who seem completely incapable of recognizing their imperfections.
 
2017-11-23 03:44:32 PM  

Ribb Rotgut: What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?


Trolling.

Example found here:
https://m.fark.com/users/Ribb%20Rotgu​t
 
2017-11-23 03:53:45 PM  

dracos31: Ribb Rotgut: What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

Trolling.

Example found here:
https://m.fark.com/users/Ribb%20Rotgut​


Yeah I have opinions that trigger Farkflakes, thanks for visiting my wall of larfs and barfs.
 
2017-11-23 04:18:17 PM  

Ribb Rotgut: dracos31: Ribb Rotgut: What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

Trolling.

Example found here:
https://m.fark.com/users/Ribb%20Rotgut

Yeah I have opinions that trigger Farkflakes, thanks for visiting my wall of larfs and barfs.


Calling your idiocy opinions is like calling vomit a snack. It might be edible, but it's not going to be well received.
 
2017-11-23 05:18:36 PM  

joepennerlives: clowncar on fire: Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Read the article.  While seeing the Holocaust Memorial as a source of German shame, there was nothing in the article to suggest that he was a denier.

These artists wanted to do "performance art" by feeding refugees to a tiger.  They don't seem much better than those they protest against.

Yeah, and didn't this guy also say the Irish should eat their babies?  Or am I thinking of the wrong fellow.


Don't be stupid. The suggestion was that the Irish could sell their babies to be eaten by their English betters. Why would anyone suggest wasting a delicacy like Irish babies on the Irish?
 
2017-11-23 05:19:07 PM  
Fall to your knees biatch
 
2017-11-23 05:30:11 PM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Wow, that's either totally passive aggressive or maximum trolling. Or perhaps both.

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Both. Those guys are geniuses.
 
2017-11-23 05:32:05 PM  

Shaggy_C: CygnusDarius: Dr.Fey: [img.fark.net image 525x165][View Full Size image _x_]

Wait, huh? This from where, /pol/ , Reddit, Something Awful?.

I, too, am curious about the source of this and some explanation as I can't entirely make sense of it.


I'm no connoisseur, but I think it's from the Civil War retcon?
 
2017-11-23 06:38:22 PM  

Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).

What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?


I said we couldn't...did you misread?
 
2017-11-23 06:41:24 PM  

Emposter: Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).

What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

I said we couldn't...did you misread?


Maybe I did. Are you in favor of legally limiting free speech here like in Europe and Canada?  It seems you implicitly are in your conditional.
 
2017-11-23 06:54:27 PM  

Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).

What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

I said we couldn't...did you misread?

Maybe I did. Are you in favor of legally limiting free speech here like in Europe and Canada?  It seems you implicitly are in your conditional.


I can't think of anything useful that wouldn't get abused.  So, not at the moment.  We would probably do better with mandatory teaching of certain subjects.  People shouldn't be able to finish their schooling and still believe genocide or concentration camps or people being disappeared "could never happen in the US."  I think if we properly learned about our shameful past and present, rather than ignoring or whitewashing it, we (as a society) might be better people as adults and less likely to keep repeating these cycles of persecution.  At least I like to hope we would.
 
2017-11-23 07:17:15 PM  

Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).

What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

I said we couldn't...did you misread?

Maybe I did. Are you in favor of legally limiting free speech here like in Europe and Canada?  It seems you implicitly are in your conditional.


I am, yes, very much.

There, I answered you and you can now bask in the knowledge that at least one libby lib has now admitted to wanting to overturn the entire First Amendment even though I said nothing of the sort.
 
2017-11-23 08:33:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: Ribb Rotgut: Emposter: I gotta say, I don't really see how he's a Holcaust denier.  He called the Holocaust Germany's national shame.  He wants to stop focusing so much on it, which I disagree with, but I don't see anything that denies it happened or its magnitude.  He's probably a neo-nazi, but that doesn't automatically make him a Holocaust denier.

Lackofname: Isn't it illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany? The government is very hardcore when it comes to any speech in that area.

Yep.  But see above, I don't think he actually denies it.

The US could probably benefit from, if not laws limiting speech (wouldn't fly in the US), much better education regarding our own national shames, rather than mostly ignoring them and just persecuting different groups each generation (Native Americans, then Africans, then Japanese, then homosexuals, now immigrants, wonder who's next (women span multiple eras)).

What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

I said we couldn't...did you misread?

Maybe I did. Are you in favor of legally limiting free speech here like in Europe and Canada?  It seems you implicitly are in your conditional.

I am, yes, very much.

There, I answered you and you can now bask in the knowledge that at least one libby lib has now admitted to wanting to overturn the entire First Amendment even though I said nothing of the sort.


You don't have to project a preemptive strawman on me but, okay, what are some examples of speech you would like to see be made illegal?
 
2017-11-23 08:35:55 PM  

Shaggy_C: CygnusDarius: Dr.Fey: [img.fark.net image 525x165][View Full Size image _x_]

Wait, huh? This from where, /pol/ , Reddit, Something Awful?.

I, too, am curious about the source of this and some explanation as I can't entirely make sense of it.


It's one of a handful of edits made by Jay Pinkerton from select strips in the "Amazing Spider-Man" newspaper comic. They first made the scene a long time ago and have been circulating ever since.

They're definitely on that edgy mid-2000s tip where the "funny" is from seeing these characters say ridiculously offensive nonsense, but they're worth a good chuckle the first time through, and they've got a knack for instantly becoming in-jokes with friends or Internet communities.
 
2017-11-23 08:45:59 PM  

dracos31: Ribb Rotgut: dracos31: Ribb Rotgut: What kind of speech do you propose we ban? Examples?

Trolling.

Example found here:
https://m.fark.com/users/Ribb%20Rotgut

Yeah I have opinions that trigger Farkflakes, thanks for visiting my wall of larfs and barfs.

Calling your idiocy opinions is like calling vomit a snack. It might be edible, but it's not going to be well received.


congratulations, you made my wall twice!  Still farking myself with a splintered wooden dildo, btw.

Anyone who wants to see my vomitously edible opinions can Google: "site:fark.com Ribb Rotgut"
 
2017-11-24 03:30:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I'm no connoisseur, but I think it's from the Civil War retcon?


CygnusDarius: Wait, huh? This from where, /pol/ , Reddit, Something Awful?.


Shaggy_C: I, too, am curious about the source of this and some explanation as I can't entirely make sense of it.


wandero: It's one of a handful of edits made by Jay Pinkerton from select strips in the "Amazing Spider-Man" newspaper comic.


This.

Unfortunately, the original site is down  http://jaypinkerton.com/2004/06/08/spi​der-man-comics/ .  I grabbed the above from the Internet Wayback Machine / Internet Archive
https://web.archive.org/web/201505120​6​0331/http://jaypinkerton.com/2004/06/0​8/spider-man-comics/ , and you can find smaller versions on the archive here:

https://i.gabebw.com/spiderman-jay-pi​n​kerton/

They appeal to a certain sense of humor...
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Here are the Punisher strips, for instance
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