Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Washington Post)   Next year, NFL might take away only reason to watch this season   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
    More: Followup, anthem, national anthem, Roger Goodell, players, NFL, national anthem policy, owners, Marshawn Lynch  
•       •       •

2545 clicks; posted to Sports » on 22 Nov 2017 at 1:20 PM (12 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



47 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2017-11-22 12:14:54 PM  
Up until the last 10 years or so teams stayed in the locker room until after all the pre game stuff was done.  Go back to it.
 
2017-11-22 12:19:44 PM  

oldernell: Up until the last 10 years or so teams stayed in the locker room until after all the pre game stuff was done.  Go back to it.


Yep, been saying that for a while.
 
2017-11-22 12:19:57 PM  
I'm not watching.
 
2017-11-22 01:04:21 PM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2017-11-22 01:23:14 PM  
And reverse all the progress that's been made?!
 
2017-11-22 01:23:36 PM  
I personally like watching the games, but if watching the national anthem being sung is your thing subby then have at it I guess?
 
2017-11-22 01:25:25 PM  
Has anybody told Trump that players on the field during the anthem started under Obama?
 
2017-11-22 01:26:40 PM  
Nothing of value will be lost.
 
2017-11-22 01:27:25 PM  
They're taking away the cheerleaders?  NOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
2017-11-22 01:36:45 PM  
I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.
 
2017-11-22 01:38:09 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.



Former Browns fan, eh?  I understand.
 
2017-11-22 01:39:08 PM  

NeoCortex42: Has anybody told Trump that players on the field during the anthem started under Obama?


No, and don't you dare tell him.
 
2017-11-22 01:39:36 PM  
Good, and please shorten the broadcast to go with it.  I remember when the late game was at 3:55 and the game started at about 3:57.  Now, you're lucky if it starts by 4:45.
 
2017-11-22 01:41:28 PM  

The_Sponge: They're taking away the cheerleaders?  NOOOOOOO!!!!!


They're getting rid of RedZone???

Seriously, with all the bullshiat stoppages, timeouts, and commercial breaks crammed into a game, not to mention listening to people like Shoepisser and Aikman fill the dead air between plays with their innane banter, I have no idea how anyone watches a regular broadcast of an NFL game. Redzone is the only way I can watch the NFL anymore.
 
2017-11-22 01:47:04 PM  

The_Sponge: Tad_Waxpole: I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.


Former Browns fan, eh?  I understand.


LOL, now that was funny.  Damn funny.

I still watch a game or two, or parts of them, but, damned if I find myself not getting into them as much.  Maybe because I'm mid-50's, and time is getting more important...but, I used to be able to quote lineups, stats, etc.

I just can't anymore.  Part of it is CTE.   The freakin' commercials have pushed me into the casual fan category as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if, at the next TV negotiations, that Amazon wins the rights to stream the games.
 
2017-11-22 01:51:11 PM  
For the last two seasons I don't turn the game on until 5 minutes after the opening kickoff. Not seeing the anthem is reason enough, but not seeing four jerkoffs at an oversized desk for three hours before the game is even better.
 
2017-11-22 01:53:23 PM  

stir22: The_Sponge: Tad_Waxpole: I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.


Former Browns fan, eh?  I understand.

LOL, now that was funny.  Damn funny.

I still watch a game or two, or parts of them, but, damned if I find myself not getting into them as much.  Maybe because I'm mid-50's, and time is getting more important...but, I used to be able to quote lineups, stats, etc.

I just can't anymore.  Part of it is CTE.   The freakin' commercials have pushed me into the casual fan category as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if, at the next TV negotiations, that Amazon wins the rights to stream the games.



Thanks.

Last night, some friends and I were talking about the Browns' infamous QB situation over the past two decades....and I brought up this pic:

img.fark.netView Full Size


Do you see how Pederson is #4 on that list...that's Doug Pederson...the current head coach of the Eagles.
  
2017-11-22 01:59:49 PM  

jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.


Become?

It had a point once?
 
2017-11-22 02:01:20 PM  

Dick Gozinya: The_Sponge: They're taking away the cheerleaders?  NOOOOOOO!!!!!

They're getting rid of RedZone???

Seriously, with all the bullshiat stoppages, timeouts, and commercial breaks crammed into a game, not to mention listening to people like Shoepisser and Aikman fill the dead air between plays with their innane banter, I have no idea how anyone watches a regular broadcast of an NFL game. Redzone is the only way I can watch the NFL anymore.



Heh.

I was overseas last month, and I was beyond happy that a pub was showing NFL games.  (The owner is an American ex-pat.)  For Seahawks @ Rams, I could see part of that game on Red Zone...and I was really happy.  But then I was mega happy when some guy saw me wearing a Seahawks hat, and he told me that there were 4 other Seattle fans watching the full game in one of the side rooms.  Good times.

/Watching NFL games in Europe is tough.
//Especially when kick-off isn't until 10PM, and you kill time by drinking.
///And going to an absinthe bar before watching a football game is a bad idea.
 
2017-11-22 02:14:17 PM  
The_Sponge: Tad_Waxpole: I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.


Former Browns
 Bears fan, eh?  I understand.

FTFY
 
2017-11-22 02:27:07 PM  

jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.


They get paid for doing it. A lot.
 
2017-11-22 02:27:51 PM  
Uh, who cares if some people aren't watching football anymore? I still am, and it's still great.

I also really don't care that people don't watch hockey. Your loss.

Enjoy the Kardashians or whatever it is you're doing instead.
 
2017-11-22 02:37:27 PM  

The_Sponge: Tad_Waxpole: I'm not watching anyway, and his nothing to do with the protests.
My interest in this sport started waning 5 years ago, and now it's to the point that I just don't care about the NFL at all anymore.  And I used to be a huge fan.


Former Browns fan, eh?  I understand.


The Browns thing died for me back in 1999.
 
2017-11-22 02:50:45 PM  
They get paid for doing it. A lot.

1. The DOD stopped paying
2. The NFL gave all the money back
 
2017-11-22 03:08:46 PM  
I figured that this would be the route that the NFL would take.

They'll still play the anthem at every game, but the players/coaches would be sequestered off in the locker rooms during the anthem unless they wanted to stand for it, like Villanueva from the Steelers did. After all, you can't protest the anthem if you're not around to take place in it.
 
2017-11-22 03:22:08 PM  

Crewmannumber6: jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.

They get paid for doing it. A lot.


Except they've been doing it at every other major sporting event since I remember (born in the '60s) [ok, not golf.]  Do we really need to subsidize billionaires just to have a bunch of brain damaged freaks "who are about to die salute Ceasar"?

The time is annoying.  The twitter rants are annoying.  But why is the DoD still paying for it?  The cost is an outrage.
  
2017-11-22 03:35:24 PM  

homarjr: Uh, who cares if some people aren't watching football anymore? I still am, and it's still great.


The accountants care. Viewership translates directly to advertising revenue, which is how the networks justify paying tens of billions of dollars for broadcast rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa​l​_Football_League_on_television

The networks are signed into multi-year contracts with the league, but ad revenue can fluctuate wildly in a much shorter time-frame. Which means heads roll.
 
2017-11-22 03:49:49 PM  

dv-ous: homarjr: Uh, who cares if some people aren't watching football anymore? I still am, and it's still great.

The accountants care. Viewership translates directly to advertising revenue, which is how the networks justify paying tens of billions of dollars for broadcast rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National​_Football_League_on_television

The networks are signed into multi-year contracts with the league, but ad revenue can fluctuate wildly in a much shorter time-frame. Which means heads roll.


Yup, but as an end consumer, should I care about those billions? Bring on other advertisers, who cares? Pay less for broadcasting rights next time? None of it makes a difference to me.

The NFL isn't going anywhere. As long as I have Red Zone and access to prime time games, I'm happy. If less people watch (ie, demand goes down), my price might even drop!
 
2017-11-22 03:51:04 PM  

jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.


Absolutely gorram right! Why the anthem is played before any sporting event, pro or college or whatever, never ever made sense to me. WTF does a national anthem have to do with sports? It's like when TV stations used to sign off the air (back when they did that) they'd also play the anthem over a picture of the flag waving. Never got THAT either. How does "patriotism" factor in to sports?

/Inquiring minds etc.
 
2017-11-22 04:00:33 PM  
Cleveland imploding and the Chargers trying to make LA work?
 
2017-11-22 04:02:15 PM  
fark the washington paywall
 
2017-11-22 04:05:11 PM  

BrianGriffin: jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.

Absolutely gorram right! Why the anthem is played before any sporting event, pro or college or whatever, never ever made sense to me. WTF does a national anthem have to do with sports? It's like when TV stations used to sign off the air (back when they did that) they'd also play the anthem over a picture of the flag waving. Never got THAT either. How does "patriotism" factor in to sports?

/Inquiring minds etc.


When you have a bunch of people together in a group, it's an excellent opportunity to reaffirm your communal identity, whatever that may be (Christians, Americans, LARPers, you name it.)

It's more important (and meaningful to many) if it's during a time of crisis.

When the crisis is manufactured, or if there is some collective, lingering doubt as to the righteousness of the cause, it's a useful propaganda tool.

Which is why the Anthem started being performed at baseball games during World War 1. Why the Pledge of Allegiance was adopted during WWII. Why during the Cold War, we added "Under God" to encourage the viewpoint that our cause was righteous. (The USSR was officially atheist - so we, as the good guys, had to be the opposite of that. That little piece of brilliance is still causing us problems today.) And, of course, why when the public was losing interest in the GWOT, the NFL was bribed into adding the Anthem to the pregame ceremony.

Baseball games are basically military recruiting commercials at this point.

It's all a bit much, frankly.
 
2017-11-22 04:11:11 PM  
Redzone killed the NFL. I can't watch a normal broadcast between two teams I don't give a hoot about anymore.
 
2017-11-22 04:22:16 PM  

oldernell: Up until the last 10 years or so teams stayed in the locker room until after all the pre game stuff was done.  Go back to it.


That's...sorta true, and sorta not.

https://www.snopes.com/nfl-sideline-a​n​them/

What actually changed in 2009, according to NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy, was that (due to network timing issues) players had previously remained in their locker rooms during the playing of the national anthem for primetime games. After 2009, players appeared in the sidelines for the anthem during primetime games, just as they had been doing all along for Sunday afternoon games. (The distinction often went unnoticed by viewers, as network telecasts frequently didn't air the pre-game anthem ceremonies.)
 
2017-11-22 04:40:04 PM  

homarjr: dv-ous: homarjr: Uh, who cares if some people aren't watching football anymore? I still am, and it's still great.

The accountants care. Viewership translates directly to advertising revenue, which is how the networks justify paying tens of billions of dollars for broadcast rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National​_Football_League_on_television

The networks are signed into multi-year contracts with the league, but ad revenue can fluctuate wildly in a much shorter time-frame. Which means heads roll.

Yup, but as an end consumer, should I care about those billions? Bring on other advertisers, who cares? Pay less for broadcasting rights next time? None of it makes a difference to me.

The NFL isn't going anywhere. As long as I have Red Zone and access to prime time games, I'm happy. If less people watch (ie, demand goes down), my price might even drop!


Depends.

In the short term, changing viewership could cause smaller changes in broadcasts and how games are run. If you want them to change some policies then decreasing viewership is good. It they make changes you like then a response of increased viewership so good for you.

In the long term it could be more significant.
 
2017-11-22 07:02:01 PM  

oldernell: Up until the last 10 years or so teams stayed in the locker room until after all the pre game stuff was done.  Go back to it.


Or just don't play it.
 
2017-11-22 07:51:19 PM  

dv-ous: BrianGriffin: jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.

Absolutely gorram right! Why the anthem is played before any sporting event, pro or college or whatever, never ever made sense to me. WTF does a national anthem have to do with sports? It's like when TV stations used to sign off the air (back when they did that) they'd also play the anthem over a picture of the flag waving. Never got THAT either. How does "patriotism" factor in to sports?

/Inquiring minds etc.

When you have a bunch of people together in a group, it's an excellent opportunity to reaffirm your communal identity, whatever that may be (Christians, Americans, LARPers, you name it.)

It's more important (and meaningful to many) if it's during a time of crisis.

When the crisis is manufactured, or if there is some collective, lingering doubt as to the righteousness of the cause, it's a useful propaganda tool.

Which is why the Anthem started being performed at baseball games during World War 1. Why the Pledge of Allegiance was adopted during WWII. Why during the Cold War, we added "Under God" to encourage the viewpoint that our cause was righteous. (The USSR was officially atheist - so we, as the good guys, had to be the opposite of that. That little piece of brilliance is still causing us problems today.) And, of course, why when the public was losing interest in the GWOT, the NFL was bribed into adding the Anthem to the pregame ceremony.

Baseball games are basically military recruiting commercials at this point.

It's all a bit much, frankly.


Don't get me started on baseball. As a Brewer and Cub fan, the Cubs still do it right, by playing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. My Brewers on the other hand, replaced "The Beer Barrel Polka" with "God Bless America", as is also done on seemingly every nationally broadcast game, especially the World Series. And I'm sure if the Brewers could figure out how, they'd force Lee Greenwood on us as well. Nationalism/jingoism at its finest! 162 games of that crap...
 
2017-11-22 08:59:04 PM  

madcitymac: Don't get me started on baseball. As a Brewer and Cub fan, the Cubs still do it right, by playing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. My Brewers on the other hand, replaced "The Beer Barrel Polka" with "God Bless America", as is also done on seemingly every nationally broadcast game, especially the World Series. And I'm sure if the Brewers could figure out how, they'd force Lee Greenwood on us as well. Nationalism/jingoism at its finest! 162 games of that crap...


Start of game: National Anthem
After 1st inning: Pledge of Allegiance
After 2nd inning: God Bless America
After 3rd inning: USA USA USA! chants
After 4th inning: Born in the USA by Springsteen (with more patriotic lyrics)
After 5th inning: Pledge of Allegiance
After 6th inning: Clap for burgers song (feat. the minions)
After 7th inning: a PSA by the NRA
After 8th inning: a donations plate for Fox News to be passed around
After 9th inning: Pledge of Allegiance
 
2017-11-22 09:27:43 PM  

AdamK: madcitymac: Don't get me started on baseball. As a Brewer and Cub fan, the Cubs still do it right, by playing "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. My Brewers on the other hand, replaced "The Beer Barrel Polka" with "God Bless America", as is also done on seemingly every nationally broadcast game, especially the World Series. And I'm sure if the Brewers could figure out how, they'd force Lee Greenwood on us as well. Nationalism/jingoism at its finest! 162 games of that crap...

Start of game: National Anthem
After 1st inning: Pledge of Allegiance
After 2nd inning: God Bless America
After 3rd inning: USA USA USA! chants
After 4th inning: Born in the USA by Springsteen (with more patriotic lyrics)
After 5th inning: Pledge of Allegiance
After 6th inning: Clap for burgers song (feat. the minions)
After 7th inning: a PSA by the NRA
After 8th inning: a donations plate for Fox News to be passed around
After 9th inning: Pledge of Allegiance


Well played!
 
2017-11-22 09:48:08 PM  
What happens if they do do any one of whatever they think can suppress the players, and viewership does not recover?  Then how do they spin the blame?
 
2017-11-22 10:48:40 PM  

006andahalf: What happens if they do do any one of whatever they think can suppress the players, and viewership does not recover?  Then how do they spin the blame?


Party of Personal Responsibility!
 
2017-11-22 11:01:46 PM  

006andahalf: What happens if they do do any one of whatever they think can suppress the players, and viewership does not recover?  Then how do they spin the blame?


Will they just show the farking games? Then I don't care.
 
2017-11-23 12:03:06 AM  
Stay in the locker room, it's no skin off my a$$. I don't turn a football game on to watch a bunch of overpaid, over hyped spoiled brats make political statements as if anyone really cares what they think about such things. "Man, I'm really concerned about social unrest so maybe I'll ask Colin Kaepernick how he feels" said no football fan ever. The only reason I watch its to see who wins, doesn't win, sucks or doesn't suck.
 
2017-11-23 12:27:25 AM  
fark the authoritarianism enabling, military ball-sucking, jingoist displays. I decided not to watch any sports event that featured the anthem before a contest. If you win an international competition and win, then play the anthem with pride.

These displays do nothing but create an atmosphere where central authority is fetishized and dissent is treated as criminal.

Their problem is that their fan base is shrinking down to Trumpers, brain-addled idiots who are just fine with seeing the youth of this country fed into a meat grinder for their entertainment, all the meantime a farking dermatologist advises them on neurology and orthopedics because anyone in those specialties would have an ethical dilemma knowing what they were enabling.

And there's not a damned thing the owners can do to meet players' objectives with the protests unless they have been paying the police and justice system to prey on minorities all this time and stop doing that.

Mostly though it's both comedic and scary how easy it is to troll right wingers. Let's take an extremely submissive position during the pageantry. Oh how that pisses off the pro-fascist party! STOP SHOWING SUBMISSION! RESPECT THE FLAG! Their three active neurons aren't capable of understanding anything more than DIFFERENT SHOULD BE BANNED!

They want a country where we are conditioned to absolute compliance with a few bars of music. That much has become clear to me. All these cowboys so proud of their independent streaks and absolute loathing for centralized authority snap to attention so damned quick at the first strain of a song that few of them know more than the first verse of. Weak willed cowards who fear the slightest hint of independent thought even as they crow about being such rebels.

That is who the NFL owners are trying to appeal to now. And it's pathetic, terrifying and comedic all at once.
 
2017-11-23 08:30:52 AM  

jayphat: Here's a brilliant idea: DON'T PLAY THE farkING ANTHEM AT EVERY GAME! Jesus, it's become a pointless gesture.


The MNF game right after Trump ran his trap was the absolute worst.  The entire preshow was a giant "ooohhh what's gonna happen, it's Dallas and Jerry Jones, and blah blah."
 
Displayed 47 of 47 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking

On Twitter





Top Commented
Javascript is required to view headlines in widget.
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report