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(Daily Mail)   Terry Crews slams Russell Simmons for sending him a letter urging him to drop harassment allegations against a Hollywood agent; "No one gets a pass"   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2017-11-20 07:49:21 AM  
Russel "Rape" Simmons, you mean?
 
2017-11-20 07:54:14 AM  
Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?
 
2017-11-20 08:03:27 AM  

Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?


People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.
 
2017-11-20 08:12:19 AM  
These m'farkas aren't the least bit sorry for what they did, they're juat pissed that they are being called out.
 
2017-11-20 08:15:47 AM  

Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


I'm not suggesting he should have issued a beat down, but he damn well COULD have.  And yes, he's smart enough to go to the police and well liked enough to be cheered for doing so.
 
2017-11-20 08:32:27 AM  

Gary-L: I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.


I think his restraint is rather an indictment of a racist and sexist law enforcement system. Admiration? No, I'm shaking my head that he had to restrain himself for his own safety after himself being assaulted.
 
2017-11-20 08:39:09 AM  
Good, bring it all to the light. Screw these people.
 
2017-11-20 08:46:31 AM  
That's 3 "drop" headlines in a row today. Is this the start of a secret message by the mods?
 
2017-11-20 08:49:24 AM  

RI_Red: That's 3 "drop" headlines in a row today. Is this the start of a secret message by the mods?


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2017-11-20 09:02:28 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Gary-L: I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.

I think his restraint is rather an indictment of a racist and sexist law enforcement system. Admiration? No, I'm shaking my head that he had to restrain himself for his own safety after himself being assaulted.


I fully agree with what you're saying, which is why I admire Mr. Crews.  I've seen some very cool, easy going people snap and later regret it.

The other problem with Mr. Crews' situation was his harasser had control over Crews' career.  How is one to react when someone else literally hold's his/her fate in gainful employment?
 
2017-11-20 09:03:56 AM  
How does one sexually assault Terry Crews and remain living?
 
2017-11-20 09:04:45 AM  
Crews is an American treasure.
 
2017-11-20 09:06:00 AM  

Ambivalence: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.

I'm not suggesting he should have issued a beat down, but he damn well COULD have.  And yes, he's smart enough to go to the police and well liked enough to be cheered for doing so.


It's a great lesson in how power imbalances works. Crews could physically beat Vinet up but Vinet could in turn ruin Crews' whole career. Vinet knew that and abused that power. You just can't tell what the power dynamics between two people are just by looking at them.
 
2017-11-20 09:16:03 AM  

Gary-L: rzrwiresunrise: Gary-L: I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.

I think his restraint is rather an indictment of a racist and sexist law enforcement system. Admiration? No, I'm shaking my head that he had to restrain himself for his own safety after himself being assaulted.

I fully agree with what you're saying, which is why I admire Mr. Crews.  I've seen some very cool, easy going people snap and later regret it.

The other problem with Mr. Crews' situation was his harasser had control over Crews' career.  How is one to react when someone else literally hold's his/her fate in gainful employment?


What a f*cking piece of sh*t.
 
2017-11-20 09:20:54 AM  
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2017-11-20 09:21:18 AM  
So basically SImmons is telling Crews if you don't want to get blackballed let people touch your black balls.
 
2017-11-20 09:29:40 AM  

odinsposse: Ambivalence: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.

I'm not suggesting he should have issued a beat down, but he damn well COULD have.  And yes, he's smart enough to go to the police and well liked enough to be cheered for doing so.

It's a great lesson in how power imbalances works. Crews could physically beat Vinet up but Vinet could in turn ruin Crews' whole career. Vinet knew that and abused that power. You just can't tell what the power dynamics between two people are just by looking at them.


Not just his career, but his whole life. Crews is right, he could have been jailed, because a lawyer could have easily twisted the situation into "Look at my client, and look at Mr. Crews. Does anyone honestly believe my client would have willfully provoked someone as physically intimidating as the defendant? No, my client accidentally brushed against the defendant, who lashed out in a completely unjustifiable display of aggression that hospitalized my client and might have killed him had security not intervened. I ask for the maximum penalty, not for punishment, but to protect the safety and well being of anyone else who might be unfortunate enough to trigger Mr. Crews' violent homophobia in future."

As tough as it must have been, Crews did the smart thing. If he'd left so much as a mark on the creep, he'd have been in deep shiat and the creep knew it.
 
2017-11-20 09:47:58 AM  

Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


Seriously. Talk about a good example of "with great power comes great responsibility". I would like Crews to be allowed 10 minutes to give the physical beatdown he restrained himself against. Seems fair to me.
 
2017-11-20 10:06:05 AM  

Ambivalence: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.

I'm not suggesting he should have issued a beat down, but he damn well COULD have.  And yes, he's smart enough to go to the police and well liked enough to be cheered for doing so.


How very blanca of you.

No black man is that well liked. Any black man who thinks that will get the rudest of awakenings.

Terry made the right decision for the right reasons.  Adam Venit held true power over his body and over his career.  Terry's case is about as pure the true menace and humiliation of sexual harassment one can get.
 
2017-11-20 10:08:13 AM  

LegacyDL: So basically SImmons is telling Crews if you don't want to get blackballed let people touch your black balls.


Yes, that's exactly what Simmons is saying.

Simmons, Venit and telling other blacks to stand down actually has a history before Crews.
 
2017-11-20 11:13:32 AM  

odinsposse: It's a great lesson in how power imbalances works. Crews could physically beat Vinet up but Vinet could in turn ruin Crews' whole career. Vinet knew that and abused that power. You just can't tell what the power dynamics between two people are just by looking at them.


LOL!  How?  Crews is not some acting novice.  Like I said, he's well liked and has been moderately successful in his career.  Vinet is a talent agent, not a God.
 
2017-11-20 11:17:45 AM  
hats off to Terry.  If I were him, that agent would be communicating solely via coordinated blinks and probably not be eating solid food
 
2017-11-20 11:19:32 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Gary-L: I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.

I think his restraint is rather an indictment of a racist and sexist law enforcement system. Admiration? No, I'm shaking my head that he had to restrain himself for his own safety after himself being assaulted.


Or maybe it's that just because you've been assaulted, doesn't give you the right to assault someone. If Crews life had been in danger, no problem, but someone just grabbing your junk? It wouldn't be racism that would get crews busted, it would be breaking the law. You go to the police in that instance, not assault someone.
 
2017-11-20 11:24:30 AM  
Ugh. How many times does it have to be said that this kind of behavior is as much about exerting control and dominance over others as it is about getting your rocks off. The agent knew he would most likely get away with it because he had the kind of "never work in this town again" clout that kept people quiet. And that's even without introducing race. So can we stop with the "Why would anyone assault Terry Crews?!?!" crap already.
 
2017-11-20 11:25:07 AM  

Ambivalence: odinsposse: It's a great lesson in how power imbalances works. Crews could physically beat Vinet up but Vinet could in turn ruin Crews' whole career. Vinet knew that and abused that power. You just can't tell what the power dynamics between two people are just by looking at them.

LOL!  How?  Crews is not some acting novice.  Like I said, he's well liked and has been moderately successful in his career.  Vinet is a talent agent, not a God.


Vinet still could have destroyed Crews' career no matter how well liked Crews is.  That's the obvious point you completely missed.
 
2017-11-20 11:29:09 AM  

Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.



1) IIRC, it happened at a party.
2) Crews used to play in the NFL.
3) So he realizes that it's not the instigator who gets the flag, it's the guy who reacts.
 
2017-11-20 11:41:14 AM  

Ambivalence: odinsposse: It's a great lesson in how power imbalances works. Crews could physically beat Vinet up but Vinet could in turn ruin Crews' whole career. Vinet knew that and abused that power. You just can't tell what the power dynamics between two people are just by looking at them.

LOL!  How?  Crews is not some acting novice.  Like I said, he's well liked and has been moderately successful in his career.  Vinet is a talent agent, not a God.


A talent agent with a lot of connections. He gives Variety a story about how Terry Crews randomly assaulted him, along with a police report, and it's not long before Crews is labeled a violent troublemaker, no matter the truth.
 
2017-11-20 11:58:01 AM  

The_Sponge: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


1) IIRC, it happened at a party.
2) Crews used to play in the NFL.
3) So he realizes that it's not the instigator who gets the flag, it's the guy who reacts.


Bingo. The initial contact wasn't provable and could have been denied, but anything leaving a bruise couldn't. What happened to Crews was inexcusable and it sucks he couldn't just deal with it in the moment, but at least the jerk responsible is finally getting called out and will hopefully face some punishment.
 
2017-11-20 12:04:46 PM  
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2017-11-20 12:59:07 PM  

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2017-11-20 01:26:43 PM  

Gary-L: Vinet still could have destroyed Crews' career no matter how well liked Crews is. That's the obvious point you completely missed.


Seriously, how?  I sincerely want to know.   Because (especially now) it's looking like Vinet's career is the one that's being flushed.
 
2017-11-20 01:42:35 PM  

Ambivalence: Gary-L: Vinet still could have destroyed Crews' career no matter how well liked Crews is. That's the obvious point you completely missed.

Seriously, how?  I sincerely want to know.   Because (especially now) it's looking like Vinet's career is the one that's being flushed.


In the current atmosphere, victim accounts are getting wider attention and respect. When Crews got harassed, they weren't, and his career wasn't as secure as it is now. I'm not sure how many other ways this needs to be explained.
 
2017-11-20 01:46:12 PM  

Ambivalence: Gary-L: Vinet still could have destroyed Crews' career no matter how well liked Crews is. That's the obvious point you completely missed.

Seriously, how?  I sincerely want to know.   Because (especially now) it's looking like Vinet's career is the one that's being flushed.


No, you don't.  You're purposely being obtuse.  It's all been spelled out by damn near everyone responding.

Go troll something in Politics.
 
2017-11-20 03:02:39 PM  
Terry Crews was threatened by Radar Online after his GMA interview (he links to the wrong Twitter handle tho)

https://mobile.twitter.com/terrycrews​/​status/932369292103786496
 
2017-11-20 04:22:56 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: LegacyDL: So basically SImmons is telling Crews if you don't want to get blackballed let people touch your black balls.

Yes, that's exactly what Simmons is saying.

Simmons, Venit and telling other blacks to stand down actually has a history before Crews.


Simmons is a farking plague and thinks he has the right to speak for all black people. Anybody who disagrees gets thrown under a bus
I firmly believe that Sam Jackson's character in Django was primarily based on Simmons.
 
2017-11-20 06:28:39 PM  

The_Sponge: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


1) IIRC, it happened at a party.
2) Crews used to play in the NFL.
3) So he realizes that it's not the instigator who gets the flag, it's the guy who reacts.


You know, I'm not the captain of the 'that's racist!' police. But I think it's sort of racist or sizeist or whatever - maybe NFL'ist to assume the big strong guy's natural reaction to an issue like this is to beat a guy senseless. Like big strong guys only have one way to deal with shiat.
 
2017-11-20 06:34:50 PM  

Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in-mD​6​W_05I
 
2017-11-20 09:17:45 PM  
Deebo should steal Simmons' bike.
 
2017-11-21 02:07:21 AM  

JohnBigBootay: The_Sponge: Gary-L: Ambivalence: Seriously, what kind of idiot do you have to be to sexually assault Terry Crews?  The guy is massive.  And on top of that he's well liked by a LOT of people.  How the fark did you think this would go down?

People have asked Mr. Crews why he didn't issue a beat down on his harasser.  His response has been "I'm big and black.  Who are the police going to believe?  It's not worth it."  I admire Mr. Crews for his restraint and patience.  He can now issue an even worse beat down.


1) IIRC, it happened at a party.
2) Crews used to play in the NFL.
3) So he realizes that it's not the instigator who gets the flag, it's the guy who reacts.

You know, I'm not the captain of the 'that's racist!' police. But I think it's sort of racist or sizeist or whatever - maybe NFL'ist to assume the big strong guy's natural reaction to an issue like this is to beat a guy senseless. Like big strong guys only have one way to deal with shiat.


Meh...I don't know if it's that...it's just that people understandably want a creep to get punched in the mouth.

Regardless, Terry Crews made the right call....and a tough call...given our legal system.
 
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