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(Daily Mail)   British Airways decides that now is the time to remind everyone that the UK still has a class system, and it should mean something. What what   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2017-11-19 10:37:04 PM  
So the egos of the overspending upper class will be stroked every time they board. Brilliant.

I'm sure they'll enjoy getting on 30 minutes early and watching the great hordes of unwashed masses pass by as they board.
 
2017-11-19 10:58:18 PM  
OMG...people that pay more for their tickets will be allowed to board first.
This is like 1960 level of classim.

Fark, even Southfarkenwest has premium boarding tickets for a price. https://www.southwest.com/html​/travel-​experience/upgraded-boarding/index.htm​l?clk=GFOOTER-PRODUCTS-UPGRADED-BOARDI​NG
 
2017-11-19 11:16:59 PM  
Give me a break.

You want to get on earlier? Pay more. Or fly more often with the same airline.


If airlines cared about speed of departure, we'd be charged for hand luggage and first checked bag would be free...and then they would board windows, middle, aisle.
 
2017-11-19 11:37:29 PM  
Subby having money isn't the same as being upper class. Those who care about the class system look down on the nouveau riche, who could most certainly afford the highest priced tickets.

In summary, fark all to do with class system. Purely a money grab.
 
2017-11-20 12:31:46 AM  
Walk.
 
2017-11-20 01:00:20 AM  
I'm not generally in a rush to get onto the plane, unless it's a Delta flight with their incessant nagging about 'there may not be enough overhead storage for your carry-on, so the gate agent will check your bag for free'.  I mean, I don't mind checking, unless there's a connection, which there always is with Delta, and in that case I want my damn bag with me because checked baggage with connecting flights is how baggage gets lost.

As long a they can guarantee my carry-on will stay a carry-on, or it's a direct flight, and I have an assigned seat, I'd rather get on later and spend less time sitting in an uncomfortable airplane seat.

Now, if they'd offer priority access off of the plane once at the destination, I'd be all over that.
 
2017-11-20 01:34:38 AM  
There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?
 
2017-11-20 01:34:44 AM  
I'm very confused about the supposed outrage. Their system sounds like every other farking commercial airline in the world.
 
2017-11-20 01:57:27 AM  

edmo: So the egos of the overspending upper class will be stroked every time they board. Brilliant.

I'm sure they'll enjoy getting on 30 minutes early and watching the great hordes of unwashed masses pass by as they board.


Exactly - hate getting on planes early - always wait until one of the last --- least amount of time on board the better.  Even if I was lucky enough to get first class, which I never have - still hate the idea of being first one. First off? Now, that would be a yes please
 
2017-11-20 02:03:21 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: I'm very confused about the supposed outrage. Their system sounds like every other farking commercial airline in the world.


That the fact that it's on Daily Mail makes me doubt the existence of air travel.
 
2017-11-20 02:03:41 AM  

Baradium: There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?


It sounds like they're subdividing it more than they have in the past.  The whole 'First Class' then 'Business Class' then 'Coach' is pretty normal, but they've apparently created a new lower tier of 'fark You Coach' where you board last and don't even get a carry-on.

At that point you might as well fly on one of the dollar store airlines.
 
2017-11-20 02:14:50 AM  

edmo: So the egos of the overspending upper class will be stroked every time they board. Brilliant.

I'm sure they'll enjoy getting on 30 minutes early and watching the great hordes of unwashed masses pass by as they board.


As their representative I'm ok with it. You pay more, you get preferred service.

/Also I'll do a drive by farting
//because I like to spread my escence
///gotta have three
 
2017-11-20 03:49:35 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Baradium: There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?

It sounds like they're subdividing it more than they have in the past.  The whole 'First Class' then 'Business Class' then 'Coach' is pretty normal, but they've apparently created a new lower tier of 'fark You Coach' where you board last and don't even get a carry-on.

At that point you might as well fly on one of the dollar store airlines.


They already had a "no carry-on" class.  And the article doesn't even single that out.  The complaint is about them having boarding zones at all.
 
2017-11-20 03:54:24 AM  

Spiralmonkey: Subby having money isn't the same as being upper class. Those who care about the class system look down on the nouveau riche, who could most certainly afford the highest priced tickets.

In summary, fark all to do with class system. Purely a money grab.


First Class. Business Class. Coach.
 
2017-11-20 03:56:01 AM  

optikeye: Fark, even Southfarkenwest has premium boarding tickets for a price


As someone who never uses the overhead bin, Southwest is one of the few airlines where it makes any sense to board early.
 
2017-11-20 04:18:07 AM  

gar1013: If airlines cared about speed of departure, we'd be charged for hand luggage and first checked bag would be free...and then they would board windows, middle, aisle.


Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
 
2017-11-20 04:35:08 AM  

Slaxl: gar1013: If airlines cared about speed of departure, we'd be charged for hand luggage and first checked bag would be free...and then they would board windows, middle, aisle.

Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?


The industry has spent a fair amount of time and money trying to figure out the fastest way to get on the airplane.

The largest impact on time is always people standing in the aisle getting stuff out of their bags because they didn't think ahead.     While people in aisle seats having to get up can make a difference, it's usually made up by someone farther down playing with their bags anyway so I doubt it's worth telling a frequent flyer who likes aisle seats that they have to wait to get on.

People like their carry-on bags though so most airlines aren't eager to charge for them.  They do try to encourage people to not stand in the aisle, but there are some types of people who just aren't aware of their surroundings.  If you want to pay for a carry-on you can fly on Spirit.

While we're discussing carry-on bags though, if you really must bring a backpack onboard...  take it off before you get on the plane.  I can't tell you how many people get hit in the face on every flight because someone with a backpack turns in the aisle and doesn't think about the bag hanging two feet off their back.  If you have a backpack on going down the aisle it is nearly guaranteed you will hit someone.  If you don't think you ever have it just means you never noticed.
 
2017-11-20 05:21:27 AM  
If there were guaranteed PDBs before flight, being the first on would make great sense. You might even have a chance for a second round before takeoff. Since they don't bother with those on anything other than longhaul flights, the only 'benefit' you get is putting your hand luggage above your own head, which should be the norm anyways. Really don't understand why the flight attendants don't enforce using your own bin, would make the whole process so much cleaner. Instead you get the commoners putting their bags in the first open bin they see even if it is 10 rows in front of their seat, thus creating a logjam, delaying takeoff, and keeping people stuck onboard for deplaning too.
 
2017-11-20 05:50:02 AM  

Shaggy_C: If there were guaranteed PDBs before flight, being the first on would make great sense. You might even have a chance for a second round before takeoff. Since they don't bother with those on anything other than longhaul flights, the only 'benefit' you get is putting your hand luggage above your own head, which should be the norm anyways. Really don't understand why the flight attendants don't enforce using your own bin, would make the whole process so much cleaner. Instead you get the commoners putting their bags in the first open bin they see even if it is 10 rows in front of their seat, thus creating a logjam, delaying takeoff, and keeping people stuck onboard for deplaning too.


Some airlines do PDBs for first class every flight
 
2017-11-20 05:51:57 AM  
I'd rather get on later anyway. Everyone gets there at the same time and frankly I'll take sitting in a larger, more comfortable seat in the terminal for a little longer over a cramped plane seat any day.
 
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2017-11-20 08:53:05 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: I'm very confused about the supposed outrage. Their system sounds like every other farking commercial airline in the world.


This.  I've never seen an airline where boarding wasnt staged by ticket type.

It should be staged by number of carry on bags really.  The fewer you have, the more forward you sit.

If you ever want to reaffim how clueless, self absorbed and lazy people are in general, witness the inefficency of getting off a plane.
 
2017-11-20 09:08:38 AM  

BalugaJoe: Walk.


Are yout talking to me?
 
2017-11-20 09:18:12 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: I mean, I don't mind checking, unless there's a connection, which there always is with Delta, and in that case I want my damn bag with me because checked baggage with connecting flights is how baggage gets lost.

As long a they can guarantee my carry-on will stay a carry-on, or it's a direct flight, and I have an assigned seat, I'd rather get on later and spend less time sitting in an uncomfortable airplane seat.


Some people need to take medical devices and medications with them when they travel.  Getting these replaced in another city before it's too late is just not an option.
 
2017-11-20 10:01:43 AM  

edmo: So the egos of the overspending upper class will be stroked every time they board. Brilliant.

I'm sure they'll enjoy getting on 30 minutes early and watching the great hordes of unwashed masses pass by as they board.


As a Business+ class flier, we only enjoy watching the Gate Lice trundle past if we have already been served our PDB.
 
2017-11-20 10:05:18 AM  

Baradium: There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?


A whole lot of infrequent fliers use air travel around the holidays, so it's one of those annual clickbait topics to gin up outrage.

Read some asshat's book about it once, how there's regular stories on a regular annual cycle, and we're into AIRLINE HORROR season, because it's also holiday travel season.

This doesn't really quality as AIRLINE HORROR but it's early, Daily Mail is trying to extend the season a few days by recycling what is common knowledge about airline boarding into being a story of AIRLINE HORROR.
 
2017-11-20 10:19:46 AM  

edmo: So the egos of the overspending upper class will be stroked every time they board. Brilliant.

I'm sure they'll enjoy getting on 30 minutes early and watching the great hordes of unwashed masses pass by as they board.


I'm missing the outrage.  Had they literally sorted by ticket price (mostly in steerage) it would be a huge fail as you should never let the rubes know they've been ripped off.  Simply boarding by class is a long tradition in places with rigid caste systems like America.
 
2017-11-20 10:26:31 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: I'm very confused about the supposed outrage. Their system sounds like every other farking commercial airline in the world.


Yea how is this different than any other airline? Was British Airways boarding alphabetically or something?
 
2017-11-20 10:42:07 AM  
It is simple....

Feign a mobility issue (collapsible cane - $15) and board with the kids and those with genuine conditions.

/you also get the pick of o/head storage.
 
2017-11-20 10:45:44 AM  

Generation_D: Baradium: There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?

A whole lot of infrequent fliers use air travel around the holidays, so it's one of those annual clickbait topics to gin up outrage.

Read some asshat's book about it once, how there's regular stories on a regular annual cycle, and we're into AIRLINE HORROR season, because it's also holiday travel season.

This doesn't really quality as AIRLINE HORROR but it's early, Daily Mail is trying to extend the season a few days by recycling what is common knowledge about airline boarding into being a story of AIRLINE HORROR.


Exactly. I fly for work several times a month. I have no love of the airlines. But 80 percent of the complaints seem to come from people who fly once a year:

It's an outrage that I couldn't have more than 3oz bottles of liquid in my carry on!
It's an outrage that the first class passengers and frequent fliers with status got to board first!
It's an outrage that a meal wasn't served in coach!
It's an outrage that there were lines!
 
2017-11-20 10:53:37 AM  

thornhill: Generation_D: Baradium: There isn't an Airline in the US that doesn't do that and I wouldn't have thought there were any that didn't give 1st class tickets the opportunity to board first.   Why is this even a story?

A whole lot of infrequent fliers use air travel around the holidays, so it's one of those annual clickbait topics to gin up outrage.

Read some asshat's book about it once, how there's regular stories on a regular annual cycle, and we're into AIRLINE HORROR season, because it's also holiday travel season.

This doesn't really quality as AIRLINE HORROR but it's early, Daily Mail is trying to extend the season a few days by recycling what is common knowledge about airline boarding into being a story of AIRLINE HORROR.

Exactly. I fly for work several times a month. I have no love of the airlines. But 80 percent of the complaints seem to come from people who fly once a year:

It's an outrage that I couldn't have more than 3oz bottles of liquid in my carry on!
It's an outrage that the first class passengers and frequent fliers with status got to board first!
It's an outrage that a meal wasn't served in coach!
It's an outrage that there were lines!


already seeing the stories for Atlanta's hartfeld-jackson airport...please don't forget about your guns in your checked bags, supposed responsible gun owners.  168 this year, that comes close to one gun found every two days.  common excuse: i forgot it was in there.
 
2017-11-20 11:05:49 AM  

Shaggy_C: If there were guaranteed PDBs before flight, being the first on would make great sense. You might even have a chance for a second round before takeoff.


Baradium: Some airlines do PDBs for first class every flight


Generation_D: As a Business+ class flier, we only enjoy watching the Gate Lice trundle past if we have already been served our PDB.


Not sure what a PDB is, but I'm gonna go with Pre-Departure Blowjob.
 
2017-11-20 11:25:09 AM  
I wish the airlines would care more about efficiency and have people board based on far you are from the door.  This having people board from the front first just slows everything down.
 
2017-11-20 11:53:19 AM  
The indignity of boarding the plane last will be given to those travelling on the cheapest, hand-baggage only fares.

Everyone should board all at once!

/The seats are the indignity, not the order you plop down in them.
 
2017-11-20 12:17:45 PM  
And what's the deal with Fark charging five bucks a month if you want to see the greened articles before the rest of us? You people think your better than us?
 
2017-11-20 12:31:11 PM  
Dumb idea.
Once it's obvious the that the only people that haven't boarded are in economy, boarding last will be a point of pride, and being the sucker that paid way more than everybody else for the same seat is going to be shameful. Some people in economy will go out of their way to talk to the people that boarded last --- ""How much did you pay? How did you get such a good deal?"
This would put pressure on prices to go lower as the idiots in the crowd realize their local travel agent is ripping them off.
 
2017-11-20 01:36:37 PM  

Baradium: Slaxl: gar1013: If airlines cared about speed of departure, we'd be charged for hand luggage and first checked bag would be free...and then they would board windows, middle, aisle.

Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

The industry has spent a fair amount of time and money trying to figure out the fastest way to get on the airplane.

The largest impact on time is always people standing in the aisle getting stuff out of their bags because they didn't think ahead.     While people in aisle seats having to get up can make a difference, it's usually made up by someone farther down playing with their bags anyway so I doubt it's worth telling a frequent flyer who likes aisle seats that they have to wait to get on.

People like their carry-on bags though so most airlines aren't eager to charge for them.  They do try to encourage people to not stand in the aisle, but there are some types of people who just aren't aware of their surroundings.  If you want to pay for a carry-on you can fly on Spirit.

While we're discussing carry-on bags though, if you really must bring a backpack onboard...  take it off before you get on the plane.  I can't tell you how many people get hit in the face on every flight because someone with a backpack turns in the aisle and doesn't think about the bag hanging two feet off their back.  If you have a backpack on going down the aisle it is nearly guaranteed you will hit someone.  If you don't think you ever have it just means you never noticed.


What's the Best Plane Boarding Plan? | MythBusters
Youtube ss1S3-Kv6R8
 
2017-11-20 01:55:55 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I wish the airlines would care more about efficiency and have people board based on far you are from the door.  This having people board from the front first just slows everything down.


That's actually highly inefficient, as has already pointed out in the mythbusters clip.   A fairly random distribution is better,. Most zone systems are pretty randomized in placement.
 
2017-11-20 02:00:12 PM  
Sounds like a win to me, less time spent on the plane, the better.
 
2017-11-20 03:07:15 PM  

mrsleep: Sounds like a win to me, less time spent on the plane, the better.


I fly BA regularly. They have had fast track Vietcong for most of those "upper" classes for years.  They were supposed to board in the order mentioned but they were very loose about it. Sounds like they are just formalizing it a bit more. No big deal.
 
2017-11-20 03:13:18 PM  

johnborght: mrsleep: Sounds like a win to me, less time spent on the plane, the better.

I fly BA regularly. They have had fast track Vietcong


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2017-11-20 04:29:57 PM  
<i>What what</i>

Well, I suppose you could think it relevant to how BA treats economy-class passengers.
Samwell - 'What What'
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2017-11-20 09:27:43 PM  
Easy solution, with the proposed new tax laws I plan on getting one of these:

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I then can board when I want and sit in whatever seat I want and I will get there before all of you.

Citation X+

/creating jobs in Kansas
//fastest civilian aircraft
 
2017-11-21 09:30:49 AM  
The times I rode on Air India, they filled the plane back to front.  It was quite the interesting experience not having to climb over people to get to my seat.
 
2017-11-21 10:10:15 AM  

gnosis301: The times I rode on Air India, they filled the plane back to front.  It was quite the interesting experience not having to climb over people to get to my seat.


That sounds more comfortable than the competition.

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