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(CBS Sacramento)   When you go to the animal shelter, check behind the ear of the dog you want to adopt. If it has a number tattooed there, it was probably used for medical research. Happy adopting   ( sacramento.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2017-11-10 05:13:46 AM  
And that is exactly the reason why you should adopt them; as apposed to why you shouldn't.
 
2017-11-10 07:53:59 AM  
My dog was a lab rescue. Story was they were used for rabies vaccine research. Wonderful animal, but had an insatiable hunger for human brains.

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2017-11-10 08:06:43 AM  

foo monkey: My dog was a lab rescue. Story was they were used for rabies vaccine research. Wonderful animal, but had an insatiable hunger for human brains.

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Lab rescue ≠ rescue Lab
 
2017-11-10 08:26:37 AM  
If you've taken a drug, chances are it was tested in rats, mice, dogs, or a primate, 2 or 3 species.
This is essential to ensure it's safe.

If you don't like it, dont take any medicine.  And these dogs are heroes who deserve a good home.
 
2017-11-10 08:27:39 AM  
Also, watch out for the guy in the white coat that keeps going to the back room saying "I'll be in my lab"
 
2017-11-10 08:27:51 AM  
We had our dog tattooed in his ear. I think that was before microchipping (or we opted for the cheaper option?) We never experimented on him.
 
2017-11-10 08:35:44 AM  
Headline sounded like that is something you should be wary of?

I think it would have the opposite effect on me.
 
2017-11-10 08:35:56 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Also, watch out for the guy in the white coat that keeps going to the back room saying "I'll be in my lab"


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2017-11-10 08:36:10 AM  
Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.
 
2017-11-10 08:37:30 AM  
Also, racing greyhounds have their registration numbers tattooed on the inside of their ears.  This is normal practice for racing greyhounds, and not a knock against them.
 
2017-11-10 08:37:42 AM  
Research can include things like injecting/feeding the dog with a dose of drug similar to what a human will take and then collecting urine and blood to test how the drug gets metabolized and excreted.

So subby wants to scare people off of dogs that might have been fed some variant of Lipitor? Bloody ignorant scare mongering is bloody well ignorant.
 
2017-11-10 08:39:48 AM  
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I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.
 
2017-11-10 08:40:25 AM  
Gawd, what a terrible site for mobile browser. One to four goddam ads for each sentence. Hard not to wind up clicking on one while scrolling, scrolling, scrolling and then you are trapped with disabled back button.

Yeah, I get it. Ads keep content free.  Adblock is bad. Please, please help us. Get a subscription blah, blah, blah.
 
2017-11-10 08:41:23 AM  
1 - Lab animals are experimented on for reasons. They educate veterinarians, develop safe medicines and vaccines, and expand our knowledge, all of which improve life for humans and animals alike.

2 - I've known more than one person working in the veterinary field who rescued a lab animal. The experimentation (and sometimes suffering) they go through is appreciated and respected.

3 - If you encounter an animal that originally came from a lab, adopt it. It will probably appreciate being pampered like a pet.

4- Not all tattooed animals come from labs. People also tattoo animals for purposes of ID and indicating their medical condition (spaying for example). Though the spay tattoos I've seen are typically on the belly. Tattoo does not automatically mean an animal came from a laboratory.
 
2017-11-10 08:42:19 AM  

orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.


Those are all ways of saying docile and dependent which I am sure is a criteria. Labs don't want dogs who will fight back when they are doing things to them and want the dog to continue to let them do things to it.
 
2017-11-10 08:44:48 AM  
They also tattoo animals to show that they've been micro chipped, and spayed or neutered.

/Wife is a vet tech.
 
2017-11-10 08:45:02 AM  

AckAckAck: And that is exactly the reason why you should adopt them; as apposed to why you shouldn't.


T.H.I.S.
 
2017-11-10 08:45:08 AM  

UNC_Samurai: [img.fark.net image 425x566]
I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.


I think that kitty is a girl.
 
2017-11-10 08:46:15 AM  

orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.


Ideal research subjects will meet a lot of criteria, and one of those is that they don't learn to hate you and want to rip your farking face off on sight. Some breeds are generally better about this than others.
 
2017-11-10 08:46:52 AM  
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2017-11-10 08:47:28 AM  

orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.


Doubt all you want, those describe attributes that make dog handling easier. Forgiving means you can give the dog a shot of a drug and they won't react negatively next time you have to give them a shot. Rules require that people walk these dogs daily. Dogs that are hard to handle are problematic.

I don't want to be confused as supporting all animal research but I do oppose ignorance.
 
2017-11-10 08:47:58 AM  
Dogs are a critical part of developing cancer treatments. I've had three retired racing greyhounds and had a standing offer from a professor at OSU to treat them (for free) if they ever developed cancer.

/already tattooed
 
2017-11-10 08:48:53 AM  

killwhitey: orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.

Those are all ways of saying docile and dependent which I am sure is a criteria. Labs don't want dogs who will fight back when they are doing things to them and want the dog to continue to let them do things to it.


Exactly!  I don't know about dogs, but I've had a couple ferrets before.  Unless you buy the ferret from a local breeder, they are almost all research ferrets.  They are bred to be docile and easy to work with.  They make great pets and are deserving of a good home after living in a lab for a while.
 
2017-11-10 08:49:18 AM  

kudayta: UNC_Samurai: [img.fark.net image 425x566]
I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.

I think that kitty is a girl.


I'll take your word for it.  He/she was affectionate to a point, but I wasn't about to risk my fingers by checking.
 
2017-11-10 09:01:53 AM  
I did not watch the entire video, but I got through to the part where there was no proof, or even reason to believe that this particular dog was used as a research animal.
 
2017-11-10 09:02:49 AM  
That looks like a tortoiseshell so probably a girl. Also still fresh according to the package she came in.
 
2017-11-10 09:03:26 AM  
I have a rescue dog with an alphanumeric tattoo on him. Which lab control group is "MS13"?
 
2017-11-10 09:07:22 AM  
Racing Greyhounds too.
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2017-11-10 09:12:34 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Gawd, what a terrible site for mobile browser. One to four goddam ads for each sentence. Hard not to wind up clicking on one while scrolling, scrolling, scrolling and then you are trapped with disabled back button.

Yeah, I get it. Ads keep content free.  Adblock is bad. Please, please help us. Get a subscription blah, blah, blah.


Firefox focus (on iPhone anyway) - makes safari 90% ad free. Didn't see a single one.

I know ads help fund sites, but until they stop displaying ads that literally make me angry (this one weird trick! New rule for people in wherever!) or autoplay video ads, I will block them.

Because if I don't block them, I won't use the Internet... which... now that I think about it, might be a better option.

And yes, I white list fark, on my desktop at least, and will continue to do so until I figure out my work situation.
 
2017-11-10 09:13:53 AM  

UNC_Samurai: They adopted a stray a while back.

Sydney Bridges: Also still fresh according to the package she came in.


Pizza surveillance cat is guarding pizza against um... Ninja turtles. Yeah, that's the ticket, "Ninja Turtles."
 
2017-11-10 09:14:47 AM  
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2017-11-10 09:15:19 AM  
Hai guyz!
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2017-11-10 09:16:34 AM  
Huh. It's been a while since I double-posted.

I guess it lasts an extra,extra,extra long time!

/I might be mixing up my chewing gum analogies here
 
2017-11-10 09:16:44 AM  

Kegluneq: Also, racing greyhounds have their registration numbers tattooed on the inside of their ears.  This is normal practice for racing greyhounds, and not a knock against them.


This, and there is enough reasons to know the racing industry that you don't need to bring in the tattoos.
I believe it is left ear is breeder and right is the specific dog
 
2017-11-10 09:19:18 AM  

ArgusRun: Racing Greyhounds too.[img.fark.net image 560x806]


yep.  mine all had them

cept one had a terrible one, I couldn't read it at all
 
2017-11-10 09:21:39 AM  
Does it matter? Love that doggie anyway.
 
2017-11-10 09:22:22 AM  
A typical CBS story.

Take a simple fact that not many people know about, spin it in a way to make people aware - but don't do it in a way to generate compassion, just concern.

Publish.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who purchases a pet from a dealer unless the shelters are empty is a self-centered selfish idiot. Dogs entire beings are devoted to giving humans love, affection and companionship and they don't want a lot in return. If you have the ability to give them those things go to a shelter. Save a life.

The wife and I have decided after our 11 year old Lab passes the dogs for our remaining years will all be older adult shelter dogs. They -need- you and are the most at risk.

Tell CBS to take its poorly written copy and shove it. Or better yet, print it, and put it on the floor as you help acclimate your new rescue to your home. It's all it's worth.
 
2017-11-10 09:22:38 AM  

wademh: orbister: I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.

Doubt all you want, those describe attributes that make dog handling easier. Forgiving means you can give the dog a shot of a drug and they won't react negatively next time you have to give them a shot. Rules require that people walk these dogs daily. Dogs that are hard to handle are problematic.


I've no problem with at, but "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are human emotional tributes, not canine ones. They are used in the article to manipulate.
 
2017-11-10 09:26:09 AM  

natazha: Dogs are a critical part of developing cancer treatments. I've had three retired racing greyhounds and had a standing offer from a professor at OSU to treat them (for free) if they ever developed cancer.

/already tattooed


Have had 4
1st died of Leukemia at age of 5
2nd died of Lymphoma at age of 10
3rd had a Basal Cell Tumor  we removed and has been good
4th has been fine so far
 
2017-11-10 09:27:39 AM  
 
2017-11-10 09:34:16 AM  

UNC_Samurai: [img.fark.net image 425x566]
I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.


Cool!  Our mechanic also has at least one kitty at their garage.
 
2017-11-10 09:36:11 AM  
"When you go to the bar tonight, check the lower-back of the girl to whom you are talking. If it has anything tattooed there, it was probably used for many things...including medical research."
 
2017-11-10 09:40:01 AM  

Carn: UNC_Samurai: [img.fark.net image 425x566]
I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.

Cool!  Our mechanic also has at least one kitty at their garage.


Shiat, that cat tried to charge me $850 to change out the Transmission Relay and $350 to flush the Tri-shaft exhaust flange.    I knew I was getting screwed.  I found another shop that did it for half the price!
 
2017-11-10 09:41:59 AM  
I'm quite familiar with animal research. The vocal chord removal / debarking thing is total, complete BS.  Where do they get this stuff?!?  No researcher wants a subject to have had unnecessary surgeries before use in a study.  They're dogs.  They bark.
 
2017-11-10 09:42:34 AM  

orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.


I never anthropomorphize animals.  They hate that.
 
2017-11-10 09:44:46 AM  

rikkards: natazha: Dogs are a critical part of developing cancer treatments. I've had three retired racing greyhounds and had a standing offer from a professor at OSU to treat them (for free) if they ever developed cancer.

/already tattooed

Have had 4
1st died of Leukemia at age of 5
2nd died of Lymphoma at age of 10
3rd had a Basal Cell Tumor  we removed and has been good
4th has been fine so far


We put Robbie down last year at 12.5 years.  Sudden hind end paralysis.  Never bothered with a full diagnosis.
 
2017-11-10 09:49:56 AM  
Forgiving means you can give the dog a shot of a drug and they won't react negatively next time you have to give them a shot. Rules require that people walk these dogs daily. Dogs that are hard to handle are problematic.

Precisely. Lab dogs are cared for better and more regularly than in most homes.  Demeanor-wise, they're usually great and pretty well trained with typical commands. It's also totally normal for lab dogs to "shake hands" when meeting a person.  What they're actually doing is offering you their paw for administration and/or a blood sample draw.

Like 99% if the study work done with dogs is not harmful or painful or damaging to them in any known way.  It's a pity so many have to be euthanized.  Also: that is what is typically done with them.  Research orgs simply do not unload research animals on adoption agencies.  It does not happen.  Lab dog adoptions can and have been done and it's OK, but it's typically an inside-track deal.
 
2017-11-10 09:53:33 AM  

ArgusRun: rikkards: natazha: Dogs are a critical part of developing cancer treatments. I've had three retired racing greyhounds and had a standing offer from a professor at OSU to treat them (for free) if they ever developed cancer.

/already tattooed

Have had 4
1st died of Leukemia at age of 5
2nd died of Lymphoma at age of 10
3rd had a Basal Cell Tumor  we removed and has been good
4th has been fine so far

We put Robbie down last year at 12.5 years.  Sudden hind end paralysis.  Never bothered with a full diagnosis.


It will be 2 years in June since #2 left us. My wife has still not moved past it since she was her heart dog. It was also very traumatic as we had to euthanize her but they couldn't give her a sedative so she started yelping. It was horrible
 
2017-11-10 09:54:42 AM  

BonerMcGivens: Carn: UNC_Samurai: [img.fark.net image 425x566]
I took my car in to the mechanic yesterday for an oil change and alignment adjustment.  They adopted a stray a while back.  Their tire and service center is an old tobacco warehouse.  When the weather is more cooperative, he uses the tires as his hunting playground.

Cool!  Our mechanic also has at least one kitty at their garage.

Shiat, that cat tried to charge me $850 to change out the Transmission Relay and $350 to flush the Tri-shaft exhaust flange.    I knew I was getting screwed.  I found another shop that did it for half the price!


Pussy will try and bleed you dry if you're not careful.
 
2017-11-10 09:54:51 AM  

orbister: Beagles are used in animal research because they are gentle, forgiving and people-pleasing

I doubt that anthropomorphic bullshiat like "forgiving" and "people pleasing" are criteria.


Beagles are used in testing because they're pretty consistent which is important for research.

I worked in an animal testing facility for 14 years.  None of our beagles, or any other animals except for the monkeys, ever made it out of there alive.  Most beagles we had were dissected.

I used to visit the breeding facility, and they'd let you play with the puppies.

Monkeys were the worst.  I had coworkers who had feces flung at them, but generally I never went in the monkey labs.  I have lots of stories, though.
 
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