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2017-11-10 02:34:04 AM  
Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.

Trump also hates Obama because he made fun of him once. And because he's black.
 
2017-11-10 02:35:31 AM  
well, if this was started by a librul or endorsed by Obama then yes - trump would end it without even thinking it over.

the article didn't make it clear why this program was stopped tho.  anyone find any updates?
 
2017-11-10 02:46:45 AM  

Weaver95: well, if this was started by a librul or endorsed by Obama then yes - trump would end it without even thinking it over.

the article didn't make it clear why this program was stopped tho.  anyone find any updates?


Al Franken became a big proponent of this when he entered the Senate. The Service Dogs for Veterans Act was one of the first things he did.

According to another article the shutdown is supposed to be temporary. Something to do with a contract.

Walter Reed apologized for the temporary halt in the popular service and planned to bring back an improved version of the program.

a former staff member told WTOP that the organization had been told several months ago that it was not adhering to the terms of the contract regarding staffing.
 
2017-11-10 04:54:03 AM  
Yount said Thursday that there were some changes made to the initial 2011 contract regarding qualifications for staffers working directly with veterans, but that it was his understanding that the prime contractor for WCC, a Waldorf-based company called MD Consulting, had worked out an agreement on those requirements, and that everything was in order.

According to Walter Reed, legally, the military facility is barred from dealing with the subcontractor directly.

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All it would have taken was a simple e-mail or phone call to get this all sorted out. But no, the inefficiency of the bureaucracy now means that veterans will go without guide dogs. But hey, never forget folks, the answer to all of life's problems is always 'more government.'
 
2017-11-10 04:58:52 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.


WTF! Why is Trump Such a Weirdo About Dogs? | The Closer with Keith Olbermann | GQ
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2017-11-10 05:02:05 AM  

Shaggy_C: Yount said Thursday that there were some changes made to the initial 2011 contract regarding qualifications for staffers working directly with veterans, but that it was his understanding that the prime contractor for WCC, a Waldorf-based company called MD Consulting, had worked out an agreement on those requirements, and that everything was in order.

According to Walter Reed, legally, the military facility is barred from dealing with the subcontractor directly.

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All it would have taken was a simple e-mail or phone call to get this all sorted out. But no, the inefficiency of the bureaucracy now means that veterans will go without guide dogs. But hey, never forget folks, the answer to all of life's problems is always 'more government.'


Yeah - that's the ticket! It was the liberals, and their "bureaucracy"!
Yeeaaah, that's who we'll blame!
 
2017-11-10 05:08:10 AM  
President Draft Dodger doesn't like any of Obama's programs.
 
2017-11-10 05:08:52 AM  
What we are seeing right now, on so many levels, is what happens when you try to rule a big country with a small, but repressive government.
Like all the tenets of so-called "conservatism" - it just doesn't work in real life.
 
2017-11-10 05:11:43 AM  

jso2897: Yeah - that's the ticket! It was the liberals, and their "bureaucracy"!
Yeeaaah, that's who we'll blame!


*Looks around* Aside from needless bureaucracy, who else is to blame here? Also, I don't think liberals had anything to do with it, the military is a special kind of stupid thanks to the gleeful interference on both sides.
 
2017-11-10 05:18:41 AM  

Ribb Rotgut: Farking Clown Shoes: Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.

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That was awesome, thanks for sharing that.
 
2017-11-10 05:19:37 AM  

Shaggy_C: jso2897: Yeah - that's the ticket! It was the liberals, and their "bureaucracy"!
Yeeaaah, that's who we'll blame!

*Looks around* Aside from needless bureaucracy, who else is to blame here? Also, I don't think liberals had anything to do with it, the military is a special kind of stupid thanks to the gleeful interference on both sides.


I rather suspect that this is the result of Trump's clearly stated promise to depopulate the government.
The person who was supposed to do that was probably fired for having been hired by Obama, and not replaced. All of these agencies have been depopulated and defunded under Trump - tax breaks for billionaires cost money.
Trump LITERALLY PROMISED to break the Federal Government, and make it not work any more, because it's bad. Now that he is keeping his promise, it's amusing to see his fans trying to blame it on anything or anybody else they can conjure up.
But you go ahead on with your bad self - I'm not wasting time trying to convince you of anything.
 
2017-11-10 05:22:54 AM  
I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.
 
2017-11-10 05:24:58 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


He is a mentally and emotionally sick man, with numerous psychiatric disorders. That isn't even debatable at this point.
 
2017-11-10 05:27:48 AM  

jso2897: I rather suspect that this is the result of Trump's clearly stated promise to depopulate the government.
The person who was supposed to do that was probably fired for having been hired by Obama, and not replaced. All of these agencies have been depopulated and defunded under Trump - tax breaks for billionaires cost money.


They said that they were alerted that they were not adhering to their contractual requirements in spring of 2017. First off, if Trump hadn't staffed the office, the people responsible for finding such a contractual discrepancy wouldn't have been there to discover it. Second, I don't think Trump's heavy-handed anti-government idiocy would have pervaded to low-level contractual levels by the spring, especially considering that the president spent his first several months in office golfing and bragging about how large his inauguration was. You're doing the equivalent of blaming Trump for your mail showing up a day late because he must have done something to influence the post office. This is "thanks Obama" to the opposite extreme.

This bureaucratic nightmare is a problem that transcends parties and the fact that you are so desperate to find a way to blame Republicans says a lot more about you than you might think. Maybe you should take a step back, take a deep breath, perhaps smoke some hash or whatever it is you people do, and then come back to the real world with the rest of us, where making fun of government waste is an enjoyable pastime rather than a chance to score points against your hated political rivals.
 
2017-11-10 05:28:03 AM  

jso2897: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

He is a mentally and emotionally sick man, with numerous psychiatric disorders. That isn't even debatable at this point.


oh I know trump's got a metric ass ton of mental and emotional issues....but I don't think that's got anything to do with owning a pet or not.  I dunno.  maybe it does.

I just find it interesting that Trump doesn't have a pet.  I like coming home and taking care of the dog and/or cat.  sometimes its inconvienent and more expensive than I'd like....but there's something to a dog that wags their tail furiously when they see you come home from a long shift.
 
2017-11-10 05:29:50 AM  
Keep your government hands off my government dog program!
 
2017-11-10 05:31:20 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


Well, thank god that he doesn't.
 
2017-11-10 05:32:27 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


Sure he does, it sits on the top of his head all day.
 
2017-11-10 05:33:45 AM  

Ribb Rotgut: Farking Clown Shoes: Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.

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That was absurdly petty. Anger over Obama eating a hamburger with dijon mustard petty.
 
2017-11-10 05:38:06 AM  

Weaver95: I just find it interesting that Trump doesn't have a pet.  I like coming home and taking care of the dog and/or cat.  sometimes its inconvienent and more expensive than I'd like....but there's something to a dog that wags their tail furiously when they see you come home from a long shift.


I don't think Trump really has a 'home' like normal people. Yes, he has to sleep like the commoners do, but it's not like he comes home and gets into his pyjamas and watches TV with his family. I imagine he wears his suit until right before he goes to sleep and likely doesn't get home until well after 9 or 10 at night because he's out at expensive dinners with other rich people. It's not like he would ever take a dog on a walk; if anything, it would be "the help" doing that and the dog would just be brought in once a week or so whenever he felt like seeing it, similar to what I imagine it was like when his children were young.

"Melania, it is in here again"
 
2017-11-10 05:40:56 AM  

Shaggy_C: Weaver95: I just find it interesting that Trump doesn't have a pet.  I like coming home and taking care of the dog and/or cat.  sometimes its inconvienent and more expensive than I'd like....but there's something to a dog that wags their tail furiously when they see you come home from a long shift.

I don't think Trump really has a 'home' like normal people. Yes, he has to sleep like the commoners do, but it's not like he comes home and gets into his pyjamas and watches TV with his family. I imagine he wears his suit until right before he goes to sleep and likely doesn't get home until well after 9 or 10 at night because he's out at expensive dinners with other rich people. It's not like he would ever take a dog on a walk; if anything, it would be "the help" doing that and the dog would just be brought in once a week or so whenever he felt like seeing it, similar to what I imagine it was like when his children were young.

"Melania, it is in here again"


if any of that is even remotely true, it would go a long way towards explaining trump's near complete lack of empathy.
 
2017-11-10 05:57:37 AM  

Weaver95: if any of that is even remotely true, it would go a long way towards explaining trump's near complete lack of empathy.


I imagine that was the way he was brought up, too. It's kind of like the Victorian upper class in England, where life is very choreographed and you are in many ways irreparably warped by the class system.  Some find their souls crushed by it, others buy in full tilt and become pussy grabbers.
 
2017-11-10 05:58:48 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Ribb Rotgut: Farking Clown Shoes: Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.

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That was absurdly petty. Anger over Obama eating a hamburger with dijon mustard petty.


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I guess my dog doesn't like Donald Trump.....
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2017-11-10 06:00:15 AM  

Shaggy_C: Weaver95: if any of that is even remotely true, it would go a long way towards explaining trump's near complete lack of empathy.

I imagine that was the way he was brought up, too. It's kind of like the Victorian upper class in England, where life is very choreographed and you are in many ways irreparably warped by the class system.  Some find their souls crushed by it, others buy in full tilt and become pussy grabbers.


that is not a life worth living.  its a gotdamn prison, just with better food and prettier f*ck buddies.
 
2017-11-10 06:08:07 AM  
Well, if this administration wants to kill at least one liberal they could refrain from doing something shiatty for one day.  I will then probably die from shock.
 
2017-11-10 06:09:03 AM  

Shaggy_C: Weaver95: if any of that is even remotely true, it would go a long way towards explaining trump's near complete lack of empathy.

I imagine that was the way he was brought up, too. It's kind of like the Victorian upper class in England, where life is was very choreographed and you are were in many ways irreparably warped by the class system.  Some find their souls crushed by it, others buy in full tilt and become pussy grabbers.


I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.

Victoria era was 1800s.
 
2017-11-10 06:14:56 AM  

Lady J: I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.


you mean you're not all james bond super villains or harry potter wizards?

well there goes MY vacation plans!
 
2017-11-10 06:15:29 AM  

Shaggy_C: jso2897: Yeah - that's the ticket! It was the liberals, and their "bureaucracy"!
Yeeaaah, that's who we'll blame!

*Looks around* Aside from needless bureaucracy, who else is to blame here? Also, I don't think liberals had anything to do with it, the military is a special kind of stupid thanks to the gleeful interference on both sides.


You've actually just made the argument for a little more bureaucracy.
 
2017-11-10 06:18:08 AM  

Weaver95: Shaggy_C: Weaver95: if any of that is even remotely true, it would go a long way towards explaining trump's near complete lack of empathy.

I imagine that was the way he was brought up, too. It's kind of like the Victorian upper class in England, where life is very choreographed and you are in many ways irreparably warped by the class system.  Some find their souls crushed by it, others buy in full tilt and become pussy grabbers.

that is not a life worth living.  its a gotdamn prison, just with better food and prettier f*ck buddies.


'Better food'? Dude still eats KFC and McDonalds, and only eats steak after it's been burnt and smothered in ketchup.

Rich people don't necessarily eat better, either. Could anyone say they legitimately enjoy expensive caviar, if not for the fact that the fish that produce it are rare? And people don't actually like the taste of food with random gold flakes in it; it's just showing off their wealth.
 
2017-11-10 06:20:32 AM  

Lady J: I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.

Victoria era was 1800s.


You say that now but I don't see you calmly walking through Whitechapel on a foggy night under flickering gaslights without gathering together your petticoats and skirt and scurrying quickly forwards after the first strange sound from the shadows while hoping not to lose your gigantic, elaborate feathered hat.
 
2017-11-10 06:22:56 AM  

Weaver95: Lady J: I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.

you mean you're not all james bond super villains or harry potter wizards?

well there goes MY vacation plans!


lol, no we are not. Nor do we ride penny farthings or lay cloaks on puddles for ladies to walk over.
 
2017-11-10 06:23:56 AM  

Lady J: I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.

Victoria era was 1800s.


I had originally put Edwardian in there but thought that the class system was really at its peak a few decades before. The tense was intentional, referring to Trump's current view of the world, not meant to imply that England of today has anything to do with that sort of lifestyle. Today you have the nouveau rich children of shipping magnates from Eastern Europe and oil barons from the Middle East rubbing elbows with sports stars and celebrities and they make up the 'upper class.' Very few of the stodgy old families of fox hunting, tweed suits, and country manors left, though their offspring do enjoy the high life in some limited sense in a few key streets in Kensington and Chelsea.
 
2017-11-10 06:25:54 AM  

Lady J: Weaver95: Lady J: I have to keep an eye on you Americans. You're weird af when it comes to British society.

you mean you're not all james bond super villains or harry potter wizards?

well there goes MY vacation plans!

lol, no we are not. Nor do we ride penny farthings or lay cloaks on puddles for ladies to walk over.


well I, for one, am VERY disappointed.
 
2017-11-10 06:25:55 AM  

Shaggy_C: jso2897: I rather suspect that this is the result of Trump's clearly stated promise to depopulate the government.
The person who was supposed to do that was probably fired for having been hired by Obama, and not replaced. All of these agencies have been depopulated and defunded under Trump - tax breaks for billionaires cost money.

They said that they were alerted that they were not adhering to their contractual requirements in spring of 2017. First off, if Trump hadn't staffed the office, the people responsible for finding such a contractual discrepancy wouldn't have been there to discover it. Second, I don't think Trump's heavy-handed anti-government idiocy would have pervaded to low-level contractual levels by the spring, especially considering that the president spent his first several months in office golfing and bragging about how large his inauguration was. You're doing the equivalent of blaming Trump for your mail showing up a day late because he must have done something to influence the post office. This is "thanks Obama" to the opposite extreme.

This bureaucratic nightmare is a problem that transcends parties and the fact that you are so desperate to find a way to blame Republicans says a lot more about you than you might think. Maybe you should take a step back, take a deep breath, perhaps smoke some hash or whatever it is you people do, and then come back to the real world with the rest of us, where making fun of government waste is an enjoyable pastime rather than a chance to score points against your hated political rivals.


Sorry, friend. My capacity to believe in "coincidences" ran out a long time ago. This is just one more in an almost endless list of good things done under the Obama administration that has magically disappeared since Trump took over.
That you would even ask me to believe in "coincidence", at this point, strains the credulity.
Also, please dial back the personal attacks. They don't add weight to your arguments.
 
2017-11-10 06:28:02 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


I just realized, I'm pretty sure none of his kids or grandkids has ever had a pet. That makes me sad.
 
2017-11-10 06:31:56 AM  

jso2897: Also, please dial back the personal attacks. They don't add weight to your arguments.


My apologies, I was intending to be playful rather than attacking; sometimes that does not come across well in text form. Let's bring the focus back to something we can all agree on, namely that Trump is a horrible president; a competent chief executive would use something like this as an opportunity to intervene and grandstand, scoring some points for themselves while also helping the troops, a win-win for all involved.
 
2017-11-10 06:38:40 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


Sure, he does.
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2017-11-10 06:40:27 AM  

Jake Havechek: President Draft Dodger doesn't like any of Obama's programs.


You didn't read the article, did you?
 
2017-11-10 06:44:45 AM  

Shaggy_C: jso2897: Also, please dial back the personal attacks. They don't add weight to your arguments.

My apologies, I was intending to be playful rather than attacking; sometimes that does not come across well in text form. Let's bring the focus back to something we can all agree on, namely that Trump is a horrible president; a competent chief executive would use something like this as an opportunity to intervene and grandstand, scoring some points for themselves while also helping the troops, a win-win for all involved.


The conversation is already over. I spoke my mind, you called me a hophead - we are all good.
Have a nice day.
 
2017-11-10 06:46:30 AM  
My Obama Republican friend is starting a program like this with his sister, to pair rescue dogs with veterans.  Shameless plug: to find out more or contribute this is the Farkbook page: https://www.facebook.com/Findin​gYouSan​ctuary/
 
2017-11-10 06:50:06 AM  

X-Geek: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

Sure, he does.
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I don't want to hear any crap from you lot about inbred Brits ever again.
 
2017-11-10 06:53:49 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: My Obama Republican friend is starting a program like this with his sister, to pair rescue dogs with veterans.  Shameless plug: to find out more or contribute this is the Farkbook page: https://www.facebook.com/Finding​YouSanctuary/


Good. Let's look at the helpers, here. Far more productive than arguing.
 
2017-11-10 06:55:33 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Trump hates dogs, because dogs can sense empathy and know that he has none.


From http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/21/po​litics​/donald-trump-presidential-pet/index.h​tml
Trump lived with a poodle, Chappy, with his first wife, Ivana, who wrote in her memoir, "Raising Trump," that "Donald was not a dog fan."
"When I told him I was bringing Chappy with me to New York, he said, 'No,' " she wrote. "'It's me and Chappy or no one!' I insisted, and that was that."
Chappy, she later said, "had an equal dislike of Donald."


They're very perceptive creatures.
 
2017-11-10 06:56:31 AM  

Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.


If you have a goldfish, that means it was the one that didn't avoid the net, in the tank at Walmart, when purchased.  It is a loser.  Trump doesn't like losers.
 
2017-11-10 07:02:49 AM  

Rotcorp: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

If you have a goldfish, that means it was the one that didn't avoid the net, in the tank at Walmart, when purchased.  It is a loser.  Trump doesn't like losers.


He sure as hell couldn't deal with a cat. Can you even imagine how he would react the first time he saw that immeasurable contempt in it's eyes?
My guess is he was given one pet of some kind, tortured it to death, and the history was scrubbed and he never got another.
That would be Trump Family SOP.
 
2017-11-10 07:04:13 AM  

Lady J: X-Geek: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

Sure, he does.
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I don't want to hear any crap from you lot about inbred Brits ever again.


Interesting... What if Eric is Donald and Ivanka's secret love-child?

/It's not that I think that, but you know, some people are saying. that's all.
//Just asking questions.
 
2017-11-10 07:05:54 AM  

X-Geek: Lady J: X-Geek: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

Sure, he does.
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I don't want to hear any crap from you lot about inbred Brits ever again.

Interesting... What if Eric is Donald and Ivanka's secret love-child?

/It's not that I think that, but you know, some people are saying. that's all.
//Just asking questions.


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Yeah. Questions.
And for anyone  who was ever human, ans ever saw human faces - answers.
 
2017-11-10 07:07:44 AM  

X-Geek: Lady J: X-Geek: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

Sure, he does.
[img.fark.net image 200x275]

I don't want to hear any crap from you lot about inbred Brits ever again.

Interesting... What if Eric is Donald and Ivanka's secret love-child?

/It's not that I think that, but you know, some people are saying. that's all.
//Just asking questions.


I did read that somewhere.
 
2017-11-10 07:13:34 AM  

Weaver95: well, if this was started by a librul or endorsed by Obama then yes - trump would end it without even thinking it over.

the article didn't make it clear why this program was stopped tho.  anyone find any updates?


Asked and answered.
 
2017-11-10 07:22:15 AM  

Lady J: X-Geek: Lady J: X-Geek: Weaver95: I didn't realize trump doesn't have a 'first pet' in his administration.  not even a goldfish.

go figure.

Sure, he does.
[img.fark.net image 200x275]

I don't want to hear any crap from you lot about inbred Brits ever again.

Interesting... What if Eric is Donald and Ivanka's secret love-child?

/It's not that I think that, but you know, some people are saying. that's all.
//Just asking questions.

I did read that somewhere.


Speaking of things people say, whatever came of that thing with Blenn Geck back in 1990?
 
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