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(USA Today)   Garth Brooks admits lip-syncing at the CMAs: 'My voice just isn't going anywhere'. Chris Gaines nods in agreement   ( usatoday.com) divider line
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2017-11-09 09:39:02 AM  
Blame it on the Rain

/too obscure?
 
2017-11-09 09:54:21 AM  
If you are famous as a singer, you better sing.

If you can't sing.
Get another job.
 
2017-11-09 11:12:41 AM  

RJReves: Blame it on the Rain

/too obscure?


No.

They won a Grammy and sold 10 million records.

The Grammy was taken back.
 
2017-11-09 12:28:16 PM  
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2017-11-09 12:41:49 PM  
Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.
 
2017-11-09 12:53:41 PM  
 
2017-11-09 12:54:58 PM  
I never get sick of how mercilessly garth flogged the chris brooks thing, the media campaign, the SNL appearance, the 2-3 music videos, all that shiat.....and then when the album died in the charts and stores, he was like "oh, that was just a goof!  i was just farking with you!  i guess you didn't get the joke?  tools!"
 
2017-11-09 12:55:11 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days?.


It's his way of beating scalpers. He'll schedule as many shows in a given city as there is demand for tickets. The fans get to see the shows for a fair price, and he doesn't have to hop from city to city every single night.
 
2017-11-09 12:57:34 PM  
People are still surprised  by lip syncing?
 
2017-11-09 01:00:52 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.


HOW DARE HE NOT PREFORM LIVE AT A SHOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE PAYING GUESTS?!
 
2017-11-09 01:01:01 PM  

Uzzah: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days?.

It's his way of beating scalpers. He'll schedule as many shows in a given city as there is demand for tickets. The fans get to see the shows for a fair price, and he doesn't have to hop from city to city every single night.


Correct. I caught him in Sioux Falls a few months ago. He stayed for two weekends and did a shiat load of shows. I saw him on a Saturday afternoon and it was amazing.
 
2017-11-09 01:05:33 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Meanwhile, outside the arena

https://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/leg​end_sturgill_simpson_busks_outside_of_​the_cma_awards_instead_of_attending


I love Sturgill Simpson, I really do.  What I don't love is the way people insert him into every single thread remotely related to country music.  It's like Crossfit, Vegan, or Jesus guy.  We get it.  He's really good and you're a virtuous person for being aware of that fact.

/Sorry, but life ain't fair and the world is mean.

rickythepenguin: I never get sick of how mercilessly garth flogged the chris brooks thing, the media campaign, the SNL appearance, the 2-3 music videos, all that shiat.....and then when the album died in the charts and stores, he was like "oh, that was just a goof!  i was just farking with you!  i guess you didn't get the joke?  tools!"


It was really bizarre.  He was, at the time, arguably the most successful musical artist ever.  And he decides to adopt a ridiculous alter ego?  Chuck Klosterman speculates that maybe he saw it as a challenge.  Like to see if he was really that good.  Anyway, it was weird.
 
2017-11-09 01:08:53 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.


Because he's trying to be nice to his fans.  He's not pulling a "got mine" and rarifying his presence to drive up prices and be lazy.  He's also got a personal loathing and hatred of scalping.  So he pushes to make sure everyone can see him, and no one has to pay outrageous prices to do so.
 
2017-11-09 01:10:39 PM  

FLMountainMan: He was, at the time, arguably the most successful musical artist ever.


"ever" is overstatement, he never approachd Elvis/Michael territory, but there is zero doubt he was one of the biggest stars of the 90s.  Even U2 was largely dormant int he 90s, Madonna had a good decade, but the advent of country / modern country was spearheaded by Garth.
 
2017-11-09 01:14:41 PM  

Khellendros: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

Because he's trying to be nice to his fans.  He's not pulling a "got mine" and rarifying his presence to drive up prices and be lazy.  He's also got a personal loathing and hatred of scalping.  So he pushes to make sure everyone can see him, and no one has to pay outrageous prices to do so.


Never been a fan, but my hat is off to him for doing this. Sounds like he has a punishing schedule, too. Damn.
 
2017-11-09 01:15:35 PM  
I saw him in Chicago a few years ago.  Really good show.  He has a level of sincerity that the music industry could really learn from if it wasn't too busy determining the key of the millennial whoops in the next contrived hit.

I don't like country music, but I like him.
 
2017-11-09 01:18:08 PM  
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Is it just me, or is he kind of morphing into the fat guy that had a polar bear fall on him in Roadhouse?
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2017-11-09 01:21:10 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

HOW DARE HE NOT PREFORM LIVE AT A SHOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE PAYING GUESTS?!


You might not have noticed that my post was about him scheduling twelve shows in ten days and wearing him voice out, not lip-syncing at an awards show.
 
2017-11-09 01:24:06 PM  
About the Chris Gaines thing ...

As I understood it at the time, the Chris Gaines thing was supposed to be a multimedia thing that was to include Brooks acting in a movie about this fictional artist. The album itself was supposed to be a pseudo-retrospective of Gaines' career, spanning multiple years, eras and rock/pop subgenres. Country music didn't know what to do with it, and neither did the rock/pop market, and so it died.

I am not a Garth Brooks fan, but as someone who in a former life was paid to critique these kind of things as part of my job, the Gaines album wasn't the worst thing he's done, and it was at the very least an interesting (albeit unsuccessful) departure. I think the reason Brooks gets such shiat for it to this day is that he was so earnest about wearing the "Chris Gaines" persona, like they weren't the same person. Like "SNL, with your host Garth Brooks and musical guest Chris Gaines." Hehe, OK, hokey, but if it was "SNL, with your host Curtis Jackson and musical guest 50 Cent," no one would blink.
 
2017-11-09 01:24:33 PM  
And thanks to those Farkers explaining why Brooks is doing that. It makes better sense now, but still seems strange that he wouldn't factor in his own personal fatigue.

But, if he wants to do it that way and the fans are happy with the quality of his performances, it's all good.
 
2017-11-09 01:27:37 PM  

FLMountainMan: Crewmannumber6: Meanwhile, outside the arena

https://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/leg​end_sturgill_simpson_busks_outside_of_​the_cma_awards_instead_of_attending

I love Sturgill Simpson, I really do.  What I don't love is the way people insert him into every single thread remotely related to country music.  It's like Crossfit, Vegan, or Jesus guy.  We get it.  He's really good and you're a virtuous person for being aware of that fact.

/Sorry, but life ain't fair and the world is mean.


Um, you're welcome?
 
2017-11-09 01:52:46 PM  

AintNoAmoeba: Is it just me, or is he kind of morphing into the fat guy that had a polar bear fall on him in Roadhouse?


He was never a skinny guy really - just getting older.
 
2017-11-09 01:56:55 PM  
Like he said, he's been singing on tour plus he's not getting any younger.
 
2017-11-09 02:03:59 PM  
I saw Garth around 92-93 and he put on a great show.  Add me to the list of people who don't really care for 'new' country but like Garth quite a bit.  Also who gives a shiat if he lip-synched at the CMAs?
 
2017-11-09 02:06:07 PM  

rickythepenguin: FLMountainMan: He was, at the time, arguably the most successful musical artist ever.

"ever" is overstatement, he never approachd Elvis/Michael territory, but there is zero doubt he was one of the biggest stars of the 90s.  Even U2 was largely dormant int he 90s, Madonna had a good decade, but the advent of country / modern country was spearheaded by Garth.


That's why I said "arguably" (but should have added "in the US").

He is the best selling solo artist ever in the United States, ahead of Elvis Presley, and second only to the Beatles as a musical act (and in the 90's he was above the Beatles).

Only artist to have 7 diamond albums.

Worldwide, he falls to tenth best selling solo and 17th for musical acts.  Ahead of U2, Bruce Springsteen, the Eagles, and Billy Joel, among others.
 
2017-11-09 02:10:45 PM  

Khellendros: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

Because he's trying to be nice to his fans.  He's not pulling a "got mine" and rarifying his presence to drive up prices and be lazy.  He's also got a personal loathing and hatred of scalping.  So he pushes to make sure everyone can see him, and no one has to pay outrageous prices to do so.


That's awesome!
 
2017-11-09 02:45:07 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

HOW DARE HE NOT PREFORM LIVE AT A SHOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE PAYING GUESTS?!


Dance monkey dance!!
 
2017-11-09 02:47:07 PM  

Khellendros: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

Because he's trying to be nice to his fans.  He's not pulling a "got mine" and rarifying his presence to drive up prices and be lazy.  He's also got a personal loathing and hatred of scalping.  So he pushes to make sure everyone can see him, and no one has to pay outrageous prices to do so.


I appreciate this, I do. I just wish I could get his music on Google Play.

/Literally just noticed he sprung a deal with Amazon late last year
//Will probably sign up for Unlimited the next time I drunkenly want to listen to "Much to young to feel this damn old."
///Need to go rip all my dad's old CDs and Vinyls
 
2017-11-09 02:51:04 PM  

rickythepenguin: I never get sick of how mercilessly garth flogged the chris brooks thing, the media campaign, the SNL appearance, the 2-3 music videos, all that shiat.....and then when the album died in the charts and stores, he was like "oh, that was just a goof!  i was just farking with you!  i guess you didn't get the joke?  tools!"


However, I must admit I kind of respect the way he at least tried to do something experimental. It totally utterly failed, but at least he took the initiative to try something really, truly different. The album was supposed to be the teaser for a film - basically they were hoping to develop an early proto-type of a viral hoeuvre before such a thing existed. But the execution of it all did not work and just made him look bonkers.
 As some music journalist pointed out, if they had tried to virally market the songs as if there really was an actual, unknown artist, and then gradually built up the mythology until it was time for the surprise reveal, maybe they could have pulled it off. Instead, they conceived the project by leading with the twist ending. It was way too weird and came across as really dumb.


It might have been interesting if he'd been able to do a series of "Chris Gaines" releases the way Stephen King did the "Richard Bachman" books, before letting the cat out of the bag.
 
2017-11-09 03:07:18 PM  

FLMountainMan: Crewmannumber6: Meanwhile, outside the arena

https://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/leg​end_sturgill_simpson_busks_outside_of_​the_cma_awards_instead_of_attending


I love Sturgill Simpson, I really do.  What I don't love is the way people insert him into every single thread remotely related to country music.  It's like Crossfit, Vegan, or Jesus guy.  We get it.  He's really good and you're a virtuous person for being aware of that fact.

/Sorry, but life ain't fair and the world is mean.


It's not that, it's that he called out the CMA last year for creating the "Merle Haggard Spirit Award" :

"I'm writing this because I want to go on record and say I find it utterly disgusting the way everybody on Music Row is coming up with any reason they can to hitch their wagon to [Haggard's] name while knowing full and damn well what he thought about them," Simpson wrote. "If the ACM wants to actually celebrate the legacy and music of Merle Haggard, they should drop all the formulaic cannon fodder bullshiat they've been pumping down rural America's throat for the last 30 years along with all the high school pageantry, meat parade award show bullshiat and start dedicating their programs to more actual Country Music."

He pretty much got black balled by the ACM for this.  He can be recognized by the Grammy's (and he had his Grammy in his guitar case last night while he was busking, which is excellent trolling) but since Nashville got their fee-fee's hurt they don't want to recognize him like they didn't want to recognize Haggard back in the day.
 
2017-11-09 03:38:41 PM  

drivingsouth: Like he said, he's been singing on tour plus he's not getting any younger.


You know who else is not getting any younger?

Everyone
 
2017-11-09 04:16:11 PM  

deanis: People are still surprised  by lip syncing?


People still think it's a scandal? Really, at award shows like this, it should be the norm rather than the exception...
 
2017-11-09 04:34:21 PM  

IlGreven: deanis: People are still surprised  by lip syncing?

People still think it's a scandal? Really, at award shows like this, it should be the norm rather than the exception...


But not at New Year celebrations in New York
 
2017-11-09 04:42:09 PM  

MNguy: I saw Garth around 92-93 and he put on a great show.  Add me to the list of people who don't really care for 'new' country but like Garth quite a bit.  Also who gives a shiat if he lip-synched at the CMAs?


Right and if he had sang live and sounded like shiat people would biatch about that as well....
 
2017-11-09 05:04:13 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: The greatest country music being made migrated to the Americana/Alt-country/Countrypolitan genre around the year 2000.

My personal faves for the last decade:


No Southeastern?
 
2017-11-09 05:24:21 PM  
Crewmannumber6:
No Southeastern?

______________________________________​_______________________
#17 under "2013".
 
2017-11-09 05:27:05 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: The greatest country music being made migrated to the Americana/Alt-country/Countrypolitan genre around the year 2000.

My personal faves for the last decade:

2017


1. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - The Nashville Sound (Southeastern/Thirty Tigers)
2. The Deslondes - Hurry Home (New West)
3. Steve Earle & The Dukes - So You Wannabe An Outlaw? (Warner Bros.)
4. Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires - Youth Detention (Don Giovanni)
5. John Moreland - Big Bad Luv (4AD)
6. The Secret Sisters - You Don't Own Me Anymore (New West)
7. Banditos - Visionland (Bloodshot)
8. Slaid Cleaves - Ghost On The Car Radio (Candy House Media)
9. GospelbeacH - Another Summer of Love (Alive Naturalsound)
10. Sarah Shook & The Disarmers - Sidelong (Bloodshot)
11. Justin Townes Earle - Kids In The Street (New West)
12. Sera Cahoone - From Where I Started (Lady Muleskinner)
13. Justin Townes Earle - Kids In The Street (New West)
14. Pokey LaFarge - Manic Revelations (Rounder)
15. Hurray For The Riff Raff - The Navigator (ATO)
16. Rachel Baiman - Shame (Free Dirt)
17. Ray Davies - Americana (Legacy)
18. Valerie June - The Order Of Time (Concord)
19. Willie Nelson - God's Problem Child (Legacy)
20. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Best Troubador (Drag City)
21. The Maldives - Mad Lives (self-released)
22. Conor Oberst - Salutations (Nonesuch)
23. Rhiannon Giddens - Freedom Highway (Nonesuch)
24. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives - Way Out West (Superlatone)
25. Son Volt - Notes Of Blue (Transmit Sound/Thirty Tigers)
26. Lillie Mae - Forever And Then Some (Third Man)
27. Ha Ha Tonka - Heart-Shaped Mountain (Bloodshot)
28. Kasey Chambers - Dragonfly (Essence)


2016


1. Aaron Lee Tasjan - Silver Tears (New West)
2. Gillian Welch - Boots No. 1: The Official Revival Bootleg (Acony)
3. Alejandro Escovedo - Burn Something Beautiful (Fantasy)
4. Old 97's - Graveyard Whistling (ATO)
5. Drive-By Truckers - American Band (ATO)
6. Conor Oberst - Ruminations (Nonesuch)
7. Wilco - Schmilco (dBpm)
8. Billy Bra ...


Sweet Jesus.  Your handle is appropriate.
 
2017-11-09 07:17:04 PM  

Pandora's Litterbox: Crewmannumber6:
No Southeastern?

______________________________________​_______________________
#17 under "2013".


Oops, sorry.
 
2017-11-09 09:18:56 PM  
Like being able to sing or carry a tune has anything to do with country "music."

"I dranka buncha beers and f**ked my dog now my wife left me, now I don't have any money for hookers cuz I lost my job cuzza meth."

That could be the next country hit.
Np difference between that garbage and rap.  Same whiny jerk, complaining about being stupid and lazy.
 
2017-11-09 09:22:51 PM  

MNguy: I saw Garth around 92-93 and he put on a great show.  Add me to the list of people who don't really care for 'new' country but like Garth quite a bit.  Also who gives a shiat if he lip-synched at the CMAs?


Yep. October '92 in Bangor ME. Right after he was on the cover of Time and Newsweek (same week). Incredible show. Met him backstage pre-show. Very down-to-earth.

As far as the lip-synching? I am out of the business now and haven't listened to country in 9 years so IDGAF.
 
2017-11-09 09:29:37 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: Like being able to sing or carry a tune has anything to do with country "music."

"I dranka buncha beers and f**ked my dog now my wife left me, now I don't have any money for hookers cuz I lost my job cuzza meth."

That could be the next country hit.


You have mastered the art of hyperbole.
 
2017-11-09 09:36:17 PM  
Where wolf:
I appreciate this, I do. I just wish I could get his music on Google Play.

You can once you rip your dad's old CDs.  GPM integrates your uploaded tracks into the UI and search.  It remains my preferred streaming services.


Also, there was a Farker sometime back who had claimed that the Chris Gaines movie "The Lamb" had actually been filmed but the relative bombing of the album killed the chance of release.  I remain intrigued.  The record company had once hoped to release the character's entire back catalogue.  Heady times.

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2017-11-09 10:18:15 PM  

Khellendros: thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.

Because he's trying to be nice to his fans.  He's not pulling a "got mine" and rarifying his presence to drive up prices and be lazy.  He's also got a personal loathing and hatred of scalping.  So he pushes to make sure everyone can see him, and no one has to pay outrageous prices to do so.


His hatred of ticket scalping stems from the fact that he's from Oklahoma. It's legal here.
 
2017-11-10 02:08:16 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: Why the hell does a performer of his stature and age feel the need to do twelve shows in ten days? Is he riding to the gigs sitting on the floor in the back of a dirty old Econoline van as well? He's not an up and coming kid struggling to make his first mark. Even a young singer is going to get burned out at that pace.

Pro tip: don't book so many gigs in a row if it's going to cause you to lose your voice.


Because... let's say you are in Seattle Washington.

You book one show for 20,000 people. It sells out in .002 seconds.

You bring stage crew, sounds guys, bs joint musicians and singers to Seattle.

Every show you can book in Seattle is done at a higher profit. You can also book subsequent shows at a larger split with the venue.

So let's say it costs $125,000 to travel to and put on a concert Friday night.

Saturday afternoon costs you 60,000 and Saturday night costs you 18,000.

Then Sunday costs 30,000 and Sunday night costs 15k.

More shows equal more mo why fir increasingly less work for everyone
 
2017-11-10 08:20:16 AM  

Pandora's Litterbox: Crewmannumber6:
No Southeastern?

______________________________________​_______________________
#17 under "2013".


Your list got removed, so forgive me if any of the following were on there and I just didn't see them:

The Civil Wars - Barton Hollow
J. D. McPherson - Signs & Signifiers, Let The Good Times Roll
Shakey Graves - Roll Them Bones, And The War Came
John Fullbright - From The Ground Up
Imelda May - Love Tattoo, Mayhem (Tribal is ok, if badly mixed. The last one disappointed me)
 
2017-11-10 11:10:13 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Meanwhile, outside the arena

https://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/leg​end_sturgill_simpson_busks_outside_of_​the_cma_awards_instead_of_attending


Sturgill Simpson is farking awesome.  Country msc hates him because he's what country music used to be and needs to be again.

Not this southern pop bullshiat.
 
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