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(NPR)   By stripping the healthcare from a mere 13 million people, Republicans can give an additional $338 billion to the rich over the next ten years. Think of all the jobs that will create   ( npr.org) divider line
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2017-11-09 07:55:36 AM  
.... and more importantly, all of the liberals it'll piss off!

/Hee-hee-hee.
//Hee-hee.
/Hee.
 
2017-11-09 07:57:37 AM  
They'll definitely need more morticians so, you kids should start planning your lives thusly...
 
2017-11-09 08:13:41 AM  
That's a lot of jobs. In fact, BONUS, if you're working one job you might have to start working two jobs. We could theoretically see negative unemployment rates if enough people need two or more jobs. People will have so many jobs they will have to add a new question to the unemployment survey: "How awesome a job is Donald Trump doing on a scale from 9 to 10, 9 being the best president ever and 10 being even better than that?"

I think my point is, with so much winning, can America cope after 8 years of such a disastrous Obama Deep State Shadow Economic Depression?
 
2017-11-09 08:18:53 AM  
Yeah, but I'd have to go back to school to become a counter-forensic accountant.

/Maybe I can get a job as a cabana boy trainer.
 
2017-11-09 08:50:05 AM  
In an age where corporations are sitting on more cash than ever before, when the wage disparity between the CEO and the average worker is so out of whack, we have the GOP insisting we give them more money at the expense of everything else.

We need to defund your children's school, take away your healthcare, take a risk that your town's bridge won't fall over on your way to work because Tim Cook needs more money.

How we ever got to a place where a person advocating that idea doesn't get laughed out of the building for bringing it up and instead it's an actual political philosophy with traction, I have no idea
 
2017-11-09 08:50:46 AM  
Just think what they could give the rich if they just mandated that poor people just die in the street when they are sick.

/ok they'd have to build new streets for the rich to avoid the bodies, but after that...
 
2017-11-09 08:52:54 AM  
Well sure it hurts the poor, and the middle class, and entrepreneurs, and small business owners but at least it will let us give more money to the very wealthy.
 
2017-11-09 08:55:37 AM  

SoupGuru: In an age where corporations are sitting on more cash than ever before, when the wage disparity between the CEO and the average worker is so out of whack, we have the GOP insisting we give them more money at the expense of everything else.

We need to defund your children's school, take away your healthcare, take a risk that your town's bridge won't fall over on your way to work because Tim Cook needs more money.

How we ever got to a place where a person advocating that idea doesn't get laughed out of the building for bringing it up and instead it's an actual political philosophy with traction, I have no idea


You're forgetting that BubbaJo isn't actually poor, undereducated and obese with a family history of heart diesease and diabetes. He's just a temporarily embarrassed multi-billionaire. So this is all fine because very soon he will benefit from this.

Also, it does a great job of stigginit to 'those' people.
 
2017-11-09 08:56:08 AM  
These are folks who won't be satisfied until they can install Neo-Feudalism, and the only rights that you have are the right to work in someone else's business, and eat at their commissary and only what company scrip can buy...so, yeah, stripping out insurance--because claims by the peones costs them money--is a grand idea.

Until they can abolish the notion of any sort of social mobility and end the threat of competition, they're not going to be happy. Neo-Fuedalism is strong within the GOP right now, and sadly, there are plenty of folks who see this, and just want to be INSIDE the walls when the change finally occurs, rather than be just a serf toiling in the factories or the land.
 
2017-11-09 09:02:41 AM  

SoupGuru: We need to defund your children's school, take away your healthcare, take a risk that your town's bridge won't fall over on your way to work because Tim Cook needs more money.

How we ever got to a place where a person advocating that idea doesn't get laughed out of the building for bringing it up and instead it's an actual political philosophy with traction, I have no idea


It's the end result of decades of telling stupid people how smart they are, and how their problems are all caused by "those other people."

Coupled with a heapin' helpin' of "We understand. We're one of you. Give us your support, and we'll put the bad people in their place."
 
2017-11-09 09:06:23 AM  

Gubbo: Just think what they could give the rich if they just mandated that poor people just die in the street when they are sick.


Tea Partiers were already screaming "let them die" several years ago.  If Fox News, Breitbart, etc. started pushing that narrative it would most likely take and you would have droves of people screaming for the end of EMTALA.  The emotionally invested assholes siding with said droves who actually have some intelligence would be giving right-sided, massively detailed but subtly obtuse arguments for why it's better to let people bleed out on the curb.
 
2017-11-09 09:09:26 AM  
Profit and the well-being of the wealhiest at the expense of the poor and middle classes... The American Way.

Hey middle class Trump voters? How's it feel knowing you're going to have to make do with less so The wealthiest Americans can get a fat tax cut? Great? Does it feel great?
 
2017-11-09 09:20:45 AM  
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2017-11-09 09:21:18 AM  
And millions of those 13 million people it will hurt will still cheer and support their representatives voting for it against their own best interests.

'Murica!
 
2017-11-09 09:22:53 AM  
Well when you look at those numbers, how can we afford not to?
(Actual conservative thought process)
 
2017-11-09 09:24:30 AM  

bdub77: That's a lot of jobs. In fact, BONUS, if you're working one job you might have to start working two jobs. We could theoretically see negative unemployment rates if enough people need two or more jobs. People will have so many jobs they will have to add a new question to the unemployment survey: "How awesome a job is Donald Trump doing on a scale from 9 to 10, 9 being the best president ever and 10 being even better than that?"

I think my point is, with so much winning, can America cope after 8 years of such a disastrous Obama Deep State Shadow Economic Depression?


ONE JOB!!!!???
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2017-11-09 09:25:27 AM  
So that's around 211 F-35 fighter jets per year
 
2017-11-09 09:26:43 AM  
If it's taken from the people who voted for him, fine.
 
2017-11-09 09:26:51 AM  

Gubbo: Just think what they could give the rich if they just mandated that poor people just die in the street when they are sick.

/ok they'd have to build new streets for the rich to avoid the bodies, but after that...


Naaah...Just build a wall around the poors!

Let them out to clean up and serve food; cut grass and stuff.
 
2017-11-09 09:27:00 AM  
We'll be drowning in jobs! Some of us may even have three or four! How many jobs did our parents have, I ask you. A measly one! "Sorry pops-I gotta go work one of my five jobs". So owned!
 
2017-11-09 09:31:18 AM  
A tad bit of overreaction here, eh? They're not stripping coverage from people, they're doing away with the mandate. Mind you, this is the same mandate that B Hussein Obama was against prior to taking office, and the mandate that infuriates Republicans more than anything. If you do away with the mandate but keep the exchanges, you are giving the 'libertarian paternalism' approach a try; one where people have affordable and effective coverage available, but the choice whether or not to take it. And, if people refuse the coverage, then it's on them if they get sick. And no one has to feel sorry for these people as they make their own beds. It would be a different story if there were no Obamacare coverage available, but now that there is theoretically an affordable option out there, by all means, if you want to be a freedum lovin' Amurcan who don't believe in fancy-dan insurance, well you can reap what you sow.
 
2017-11-09 09:31:40 AM  
Duck calls for everybody!!!!! er.....you pay shipping and handling..... $129.99 ea.
 
2017-11-09 09:32:46 AM  
Sigh.
 
2017-11-09 09:35:04 AM  

Shaggy_C: A tad bit of overreaction here, eh? They're not stripping coverage from people, they're doing away with the mandate. Mind you, this is the same mandate that B Hussein Obama was against prior to taking office, and the mandate that infuriates Republicans more than anything. If you do away with the mandate but keep the exchanges, you are giving the 'libertarian paternalism' approach a try; one where people have affordable and effective coverage available, but the choice whether or not to take it. And, if people refuse the coverage, then it's on them if they get sick. And no one has to feel sorry for these people as they make their own beds. It would be a different story if there were no Obamacare coverage available, but now that there is theoretically an affordable option out there, by all means, if you want to be a freedum lovin' Amurcan who don't believe in fancy-dan insurance, well you can reap what you sow.


Yep, people not having insurance and getting sick won't cost anybody except themselves anything. That money automatically materializes and is given to the caregivers when they die.
 
2017-11-09 09:36:04 AM  

SoupGuru: How we ever got to a place where a person advocating that idea doesn't get laughed out of the building for bringing it up and instead it's an actual political philosophy with traction, I have no idea


Two words: Prosperity Gospel.
 
2017-11-09 09:37:03 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: They'll definitely need more morticians so, you kids should start planning your lives thusly...


and grave diggers, don't forget about the grave diggers.
 
2017-11-09 09:37:11 AM  
Think of all the jobs that will create

I'd have to take up meditation to think of that much nothing.
 
2017-11-09 09:39:11 AM  
Well, if 1 percent of those 13 million people have a health problem that requires receiving care or they'll die or be unable to work, that means 130000 new jobs!
 
2017-11-09 09:42:30 AM  
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2017-11-09 09:42:56 AM  
Most of those 13 mil probably voted for Trump. Aunt Karma nods in approval.
 
2017-11-09 09:43:05 AM  
The only thing ever to experience actual trickle down effects is a urinal cake.
 
2017-11-09 09:43:09 AM  

SoupGuru: In an age where corporations are sitting on more cash than ever before, when the wage disparity between the CEO and the average worker is so out of whack, we have the GOP insisting we give them more money at the expense of everything else.

We need to defund your children's school, take away your healthcare, take a risk that your town's bridge won't fall over on your way to work because Tim Cook needs more money.

How we ever got to a place where a person advocating that idea doesn't get laughed out of the building for bringing it up and instead it's an actual political philosophy with traction, I have no idea


It took a long time, and arguably started with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980, so the process was kind of subtle. And it all started with three simple lies:

1. Tax cuts pay for themselves.
2. Lowering taxes creates jobs.
3. "Those" people are getting something for nothing...welfare mamas.
 
2017-11-09 09:45:50 AM  
And the even best part about the whole thing is those people without insurance won't be able to deduct any medical expenses from their taxes!  That will show those poors for getting sick or injured!
 
2017-11-09 09:45:51 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: .... and more importantly, all of the liberals it'll piss off!

/Hee-hee-hee.
//Hee-hee.
/Hee.


"OMG. You libs hate it when Trump kills poor people. You are so triggered. I love it."
 
kab
2017-11-09 09:46:43 AM  
It's quaint that republicans still believe that jobs are created by something other than demand.
 
2017-11-09 09:46:44 AM  

Dog Welder: And the even best part about the whole thing is those people without insurance won't be able to deduct any medical expenses from their taxes!  That will show those poors for getting sick or injured!


That may be the case, but me and everyone I care about will be fine. So what's the problem?
 
2017-11-09 09:50:12 AM  
dang that a massive tax cut.. why with that money I bet the billionairs will create tens of jobs and even offer insurance to dozens
 
2017-11-09 09:50:16 AM  
The only time I've seen a successful trickle down is when I stand in front of a urinal.

The republic party wants you to be the urinal.
 
2017-11-09 09:53:03 AM  

AquaTatanka: And millions of those 13 million people it will hurt will still cheer and support their representatives voting for it against their own best interests.

'Murica!


Let them eat golden toilets!
 
2017-11-09 09:54:29 AM  
Think of all the jobs that will create.

Someone has to build, maintain, and operate all those guillotines.
 
2017-11-09 09:54:42 AM  
Yeah, 13m new jobs, because the previous occupants will be dead.
 
2017-11-09 09:55:18 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Yep, people not having insurance and getting sick won't cost anybody except themselves anything. That money automatically materializes and is given to the caregivers when they die.


People who show up to the emergency room without insurance are like shoplifters. We all pay the price for them in the form of slightly higher medical bills. And yes, those people will probably die unnecessarily at younger ages because they are foolish with their health. I'm willing to pay a small markup on my hospital care because I'll sleep well at night knowing that some Trumpers are out there getting hoisted by their own petards.
 
2017-11-09 09:55:36 AM  

AquaTatanka: And millions of those 13 million people it will hurt will still cheer and support their representatives voting for it against their own best interests.

'Murica!


Well what do you expect? The alternative is to vote for a Democrat!
 
2017-11-09 09:56:14 AM  

Bowen: Dog Welder: And the even best part about the whole thing is those people without insurance won't be able to deduct any medical expenses from their taxes!  That will show those poors for getting sick or injured!

That may be the case, but me and everyone I care about will be fine. So what's the problem?


It's fiscally irresponsible. More uninsured people means more costs that hospitals have to eat and so result in more expensive care and insurance for everyone else. The economic ignorance of these plans make them a financial loser for everyone.
 
2017-11-09 09:57:05 AM  
In their homes the people sat, polishing their pitchforks and braiding nooses.
 
2017-11-09 09:59:14 AM  
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2017-11-09 10:01:37 AM  

hubiestubert: These are folks who won't be satisfied until they can install Neo-Feudalism, and the only rights that you have are the right to work in someone else's business, and eat at their commissary and only what company scrip can buy...so, yeah, stripping out insurance--because claims by the peones costs them money--is a grand idea.

Until they can abolish the notion of any sort of social mobility and end the threat of competition, they're not going to be happy. Neo-Fuedalism is strong within the GOP right now, and sadly, there are plenty of folks who see this, and just want to be INSIDE the walls when the change finally occurs, rather than be just a serf toiling in the factories or the land.


I think they forgot how bloody this can get but I'm sure this time will be different
 
2017-11-09 10:05:35 AM  

Shaggy_C: sigdiamond2000: Yep, people not having insurance and getting sick won't cost anybody except themselves anything. That money automatically materializes and is given to the caregivers when they die.

People who show up to the emergency room without insurance are like shoplifters. We all pay the price for them in the form of slightly higher medical bills. And yes, those people will probably die unnecessarily at younger ages because they are foolish with their health. I'm willing to pay a small markup on my hospital care because I'll sleep well at night knowing that some Trumpers are out there getting hoisted by their own petards.


You do realize that many of those people cant afford health insurance and aren't simply being irresponsible, right?
 
2017-11-09 10:12:28 AM  

odinsposse: Bowen: Dog Welder: And the even best part about the whole thing is those people without insurance won't be able to deduct any medical expenses from their taxes!  That will show those poors for getting sick or injured!

That may be the case, but me and everyone I care about will be fine. So what's the problem?

It's fiscally irresponsible. More uninsured people means more costs that hospitals have to eat and so result in more expensive care and insurance for everyone else. The economic ignorance of these plans make them a financial loser for everyone.


You're assuming that hospitals will still treat people who are uninsured. This freeloading will not happen in Libertarian Jesus Land.
 
2017-11-09 10:15:22 AM  

Archidude: You do realize that many of those people cant afford health insurance and aren't simply being irresponsible, right?


If they can afford it when it is mandatory, they can afford it when it is not mandatory, too, no?
 
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