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2017-11-09 04:07:23 AM  
Fox News stands apart, however, for the institutional sanction accorded to the creepy office pursuit of innocent and hard-working women.

So the slutty, lazy ones are still fair game?
 
2017-11-09 05:31:45 AM  

fusillade762: Fox News stands apart, however, for the institutional sanction accorded to the creepy office pursuit of innocent and hard-working women.

So the slutty, lazy ones are still fair game?


Is that code for "the brown ones"?
 
2017-11-09 06:22:19 AM  
Still waiting for the "blockbuster" revelations about the "evil left wing cabal" that targeted innocent O'Reilly.
 
2017-11-09 08:25:54 AM  
I wouldn't be surprised if the same language was in every contract there.
These are 50 year old frat boys.
 
2017-11-09 08:29:50 AM  

Catlenfell: I wouldn't be surprised if the same language was in every contract there.
These are 50 year old frat boys.


"50 year old frat boys"? Bill O'Reilly turned 50 years old in 1996.
 
2017-11-09 08:30:29 AM  
The pope?
 
2017-11-09 08:30:31 AM  
Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.
 
2017-11-09 08:32:09 AM  
He's an alcoholic, too?
 
2017-11-09 08:32:33 AM  
If you want your contract to say "cannot be dismissed unless accusations are proven in court", I'm going to assume you're up to some shady shiat and not hire you.

Then again, I'm not Fox.
 
2017-11-09 08:35:28 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Catlenfell: I wouldn't be surprised if the same language was in every contract there.
These are 50 year old frat boys.

"50 year old frat boys"? Bill O'Reilly turned 50 years old in 1996.


christ.
 
2017-11-09 08:36:56 AM  

grumpfuff: If you want your contract to say "cannot be dismissed unless accusations are proven in court", I'm going to assume you're up to some shady shiat and not hire you.

Then again, I'm not Fox.


That's some fine stupidity there. Way to let your dislike of someone get in the way of rational thought.

Where do you work? I want to make a phone call. Don't worry, though. I'm sure it won't hurt you if you haven't actually done anything, right?
 
2017-11-09 08:38:31 AM  
That's what you get when you want to rub somebody's pussy with a falafel.
 
2017-11-09 08:39:55 AM  
I'm betting he can't explain that.
 
2017-11-09 08:40:43 AM  

swahnhennessy: He's an alcoholic, too?


Well, duh
 
2017-11-09 08:42:32 AM  
Jerry sandusky? Joe Paterno? Kevin Spacey?Michael Jackson? Anthony weiner? Larry Craig?
 
2017-11-09 08:43:19 AM  
We heard the end of this. Fox paid an ungodly amount in a settlement. The only reason they do that isn't to protect O'Really, it's to protect the corp.
 
2017-11-09 08:45:58 AM  
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So he canna fondle the help?
Not only canna he, he hassa.  And believe me, many a can hasa beena fondled.
O'Reilly?
Yes really.
Everybody at Foxa allowed to be an amoral sleazebag?
Of course, it's right here in the contract!
*pause for annoyed double-take*
Hey!  Youa canta foola me!  Everybody know therea ain't no Hannity Clause.
 
2017-11-09 08:47:49 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: fusillade762: Fox News stands apart, however, for the institutional sanction accorded to the creepy office pursuit of innocent and hard-working women.

So the slutty, lazy ones are still fair game?

Is that code for "the brown ones"?


blonde
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-11-09 08:48:27 AM  
Yeah.  In the USA, people are at the top because they deserve to be there.

Buah.

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2017-11-09 08:48:32 AM  

you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.


Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.
 
2017-11-09 08:49:24 AM  
How can you say such a pitaful thing?  You should falafel for yourself.
 
2017-11-09 08:51:21 AM  

Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.


So there's a blood test or something to detect creepy serial perverts?
 
2017-11-09 08:53:04 AM  

fusillade762: Fox News stands apart, however, for the institutional sanction accorded to the creepy office pursuit of innocent and hard-working women.

So the slutty, lazy ones are still fair game?


Ahh, just my type of woman.
 
2017-11-09 08:53:39 AM  
All those women were dirty liars who can't prove a thing and don't stand a chance in court oh how would you all like $32 million not to go to court
 
2017-11-09 08:54:16 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.

So there's a blood test or something to detect creepy serial perverts?


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Not necessarily a blood test.
 
2017-11-09 08:55:56 AM  
As a non-American I'm not exactly familiar with this guy, he may be a total shiatbag or worse, but:
Isn't the "innocent until proven guilty" a pretty standard approach?
I mean all you have to do is make an "allegation" to get someone fired?
 
2017-11-09 08:56:18 AM  
If i was in a celebrity position I'd probably want something like that too.  There are enough crazy women out there willing to make accusations just to get attention. Not to mention so self absorbed they think everything is about them.  Not in any way defending the dirt bag, just the wording of the contract.
 
2017-11-09 08:56:51 AM  
I heard he has a tiny one.
 
2017-11-09 08:58:30 AM  

Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.


Nope, it's like the thing that I wrote
 
2017-11-09 09:02:34 AM  

Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.


Yea, actually given the hair trigger reactions and loss of your career, and becoming an unhirable pariah, it seems like an excellent idea to put in all contracts to protect yourself from false accusation. Remember the Duke Lacrosse scandal?

I'm not sure I see this the same way the article does, but I can see the employer outing in a... Or x if a settlement is paid... Or multiple non dismissed, verifiable or credible allegations... given what the article said about how often these done go to court. Employer should add in something to cover themselves as well, which fox didn't do until this year's renogiation.
 
2017-11-09 09:04:39 AM  
I don't see anything wrong with a "prove it in court" kind of deal. Let's say you're a famous celebrity. This means you're already a target for a lot of people who might want to make money at your expense. Anybody can say you molested them or did something horrible to them. If you look at today's society, companies are very quick to fire or suspend anyone who gets accused without even being proven guilty yet in the name of good public opinion (aka public lynching without evidence). Would you really want to be falsely accused of doing bad things and then get fired or suspended without even any evidence or proof that you did in fact do anything bad?

There is nothing wrong with protecting your livelihood from false accusations. All of us should be innocent before being treated as guilty. I think all jobs should have this sort of protection and not just for the celebrities because it is a practical protection to have, especially in today's world where anyone can simply post lies on social media about you to ruin your reputation. Even if they don't have any proof, just saying  you did something horrible to them would be enough for people to start doubting you and from this doubt, a lot of relationships could be broken and opportunities could be lost.

Accuse someone of something, then there should be evidence or anything that would prove what you're saying is true. We have to be fair for both the accused and the accuser, base things on evidence and proof, not just our feelings or pre-conceived notions.
 
2017-11-09 09:05:09 AM  

Carousel Beast: grumpfuff: If you want your contract to say "cannot be dismissed unless accusations are proven in court", I'm going to assume you're up to some shady shiat and not hire you.

Then again, I'm not Fox.

That's some fine stupidity there. Way to let your dislike of someone get in the way of rational thought.

Where do you work? I want to make a phone call. Don't worry, though. I'm sure it won't hurt you if you haven't actually done anything, right?


Oh man, you think my job is going to listen to an anonymous person they've never heard of? That's adorable!

You see, where I work, such a clause is unnecessary, because there's an assumption I'm not up to shady shiat. In fact, my contract has a similar clause - I can't be fired for mere allegations, it must be proven or admitted.

The difference is my employer put that clause in there, I didn't ask for it.
 
2017-11-09 09:06:07 AM  

mikaloyd: Jerry sandusky? Joe Paterno? Kevin Spacey?Michael Jackson? Anthony weiner? Larry Craig?


You forgot David Letterman.
 
2017-11-09 09:08:17 AM  

harm85: As a non-American I'm not exactly familiar with this guy, he may be a total shiatbag or worse, but:
Isn't the "innocent until proven guilty" a pretty standard approach?
I mean all you have to do is make an "allegation" to get someone fired?


Unfortunately, accusing people of certain things really garnishes them in the public image, whether they did it or not. In a court yes, and I think it's a wise thing for O'Reilly to put in contact, to protect against false accusations of anything. Rape, harassment, murder, embezzling. Pretty much anything that tarnishes your image or lowers revenue would be a firable situation normally. I think requiring proof is a pretty damned reasonable thing.

Apparently there's a lot of tough on crime, zero tolerance, appearance of impropriety folks here today.
 
2017-11-09 09:12:52 AM  
There used to be an image of an inquiring Bubo scandiacus that went along with these things. Mh? Oh, just interesting to see memes die.
 
2017-11-09 09:13:27 AM  
"what about false accusations" is nothing but concern trolling at this point, because neither society nor the court system give a rats ass about victims, no matter how many there are or what evidence they have
 
2017-11-09 09:15:54 AM  

Prince George: Giant Clown Shoe: fusillade762: Fox News stands apart, however, for the institutional sanction accorded to the creepy office pursuit of innocent and hard-working women.

So the slutty, lazy ones are still fair game?

Is that code for "the brown ones"?

blonde


^^^THIS^^^

Not too many "brown ones" at Fox News.

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2017-11-09 09:19:47 AM  

Coho: mikaloyd: Jerry sandusky? Joe Paterno? Kevin Spacey?Michael Jackson? Anthony weiner? Larry Craig?

You forgot David Letterman.


And Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton
 
2017-11-09 09:21:55 AM  

mikaloyd: Coho: mikaloyd: Jerry sandusky? Joe Paterno? Kevin Spacey?Michael Jackson? Anthony weiner? Larry Craig?

You forgot David Letterman.

And Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton


And Clarence Thomas
 
2017-11-09 09:22:00 AM  

Quantumbunny: harm85: As a non-American I'm not exactly familiar with this guy, he may be a total shiatbag or worse, but:
Isn't the "innocent until proven guilty" a pretty standard approach?
I mean all you have to do is make an "allegation" to get someone fired?

Unfortunately, accusing people of certain things really garnishes them in the public image, whether they did it or not. In a court yes, and I think it's a wise thing for O'Reilly to put in contact, to protect against false accusations of anything. Rape, harassment, murder, embezzling. Pretty much anything that tarnishes your image or lowers revenue would be a firable situation normally. I think requiring proof is a pretty damned reasonable thing.

Apparently there's a lot of tough on crime, zero tolerance, appearance of impropriety folks here today.


Nah it's more like there are a lot of people who think it's funny that a guy who frequently was accused of sexual harassment and indeed settled all suits against him had language in his contract that would prevent him from losing his job even if he was accused of sexual harassment by multiple women. Under this contract he couldn't be fired even if he was accused by every single person at the company.

If Chris Christie had a contract that it needed to be proven in court that he stole his co-workers lunches from the fridge, what would you say: "Wise move, Governor Christie and we should all have the same" ? Yeah, it's a good move for him, but it also gives some insight into what might lie ahead. And when all those lunches go missing, it might be nice to have the option to fire him instead of needing the case to be taken to court.

Write sexual harassment clause into contract, sexually harass several people over many years, pay them all off so that condition in the clause never occurs, society wins?
 
2017-11-09 09:24:52 AM  

mikaloyd: mikaloyd: Coho: mikaloyd: Jerry sandusky? Joe Paterno? Kevin Spacey?Michael Jackson? Anthony weiner? Larry Craig?

You forgot David Letterman.

And Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton

And Clarence Thomas


And everybody except for Trump
 
2017-11-09 09:30:30 AM  
What a serial pervert may look like:

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2017-11-09 09:33:30 AM  
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2017-11-09 09:38:48 AM  

ElwoodCuse: All those women were dirty liars who can't prove a thing and don't stand a chance in court oh how would you all like $32 million not to go to court


5 women got $13 million between them, Lis Wiehl got $32 million for "non consual sexual contact" among other things.

He settled with Andrea Mackris in 2004 for $9 million.
 
2017-11-09 09:45:02 AM  

Jake Havechek: ElwoodCuse: All those women were dirty liars who can't prove a thing and don't stand a chance in court oh how would you all like $32 million not to go to court

5 women got $13 million between them, Lis Wiehl got $32 million for "non consual sexual contact" among other things.

He settled with Andrea Mackris in 2004 for $9 million.


I can't imagine what you would have to do to warrant a million dollar settlement, let alone 10 or 30 million dollar settlement.
 
2017-11-09 09:46:56 AM  

Quantumbunny: Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.

Yea, actually given the hair trigger reactions and loss of your career, and becoming an unhirable pariah, it seems like an excellent idea to put in all contracts to protect yourself from false accusation. Remember the Duke Lacrosse scandal?

I'm not sure I see this the same way the article does, but I can see the employer outing in a... Or x if a settlement is paid... Or multiple non dismissed, verifiable or credible allegations... given what the article said about how often these done go to court. Employer should add in something to cover themselves as well, which fox didn't do until this year's renogiation.


Thank you.  While I applaud people stepping up and speaking out against abuse, we need to balance that against the rights of the accused.  It's kind of the whole idea why we have a court system in the first place.  Do we really want to live in a world where accusation equals de facto guilt?
 
2017-11-09 09:50:48 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Persnickety: you are a puppet: Nothing suspicious about that. It's like if I insert a provision into my contract that I must be given one week's notice before any drug test. That doesn't necessarily mean I use drugs. Instead, it could mean...

Sorry I can't think of a way to end that sentence.

Well, no.  It's like if you can be fired for using drugs, the company has to run an actual drug test that comes up positive, not just take the word of someone who said they thought they once saw you blaze up twenty years ago.

So there's a blood test or something to detect creepy serial perverts?


Sure.  Someone just needs to point at one and declare him to be one.  What could possibly go wrong?
 
2017-11-09 09:51:26 AM  

Travis_Bickle: We heard the end of this. Fox paid an ungodly amount in a settlement. The only reason they do that isn't to protect O'Really, it's to protect the corp.


Fox didn't pay out in the settlement that got O'Reilly shiat-canned. He paid out $32 mil himself....to keep the case out of the news.....and to get his own contract with Fox renewed. Fox still has to pay out $18m+ as severance to O'Reilly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddiebe​r​g/2017/11/07/even-with-the-32-million-​payout-bill-oreilly-made-millions-last​-year/#6e9031a22dc1
 
2017-11-09 09:51:40 AM  
He's a serial pervert.
 
2017-11-09 09:55:32 AM  
Subby, why such awkward wording? Why not write "creepy old serial pervert"? I can't focus on the story because this is bothering me too much.
 
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