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2017-11-07 11:01:17 AM  
QBs are experts on tackling now?
 
2017-11-07 11:11:44 AM  
PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.
 
2017-11-07 11:16:27 AM  
"Ten years as a starter, you're 2-4 in the playoffs. You ain't won nothing," Sanders said.

Behold the high quality of education received by FSU Student Athletes.

Gubbo: PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.


Grammar aside, I approve of this.
 
2017-11-07 11:22:30 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "Ten years as a starter, you're 2-4 in the playoffs. You ain't won nothing," Sanders said.

Behold the high quality of education received by FSU Student Athletes.

Gubbo: PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

Grammar aside, I approve of this.


Grammar shmammar.
 
2017-11-07 11:53:16 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "Ten years as a starter, you're 2-4 in the playoffs. You ain't won nothing," Sanders said.

Behold the high quality of education received by FSU Student Athletes.

Gubbo: PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

Grammar aside, I approve of this.

Maybe he graduated from FSU.

 
2017-11-07 11:56:26 AM  

Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.


True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.
 
2017-11-07 12:00:51 PM  

johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.


But Sanders couldn't tackle.
 
2017-11-07 12:02:56 PM  

johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.


He isn't in the field on the field anymore.

In their current gigs, Romo beats him in every way possible.
 
2017-11-07 12:05:01 PM  
Sanders is right about Romo

Romo is right about Sanders

Sanders is a douchebag

Neither is worth my time
 
2017-11-07 12:05:33 PM  

Gubbo: johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.

He isn't in the field on the field anymore.

In their current gigs, Romo beats him in every way possible.


i agree, but his career does offer him some credibility even today
 
2017-11-07 12:12:18 PM  

johnny_vegas: Gubbo: johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.

He isn't in the field on the field anymore.

In their current gigs, Romo beats him in every way possible.

i agree, but his career does offer him some credibility even today


Shouting over people while acting like a clown isn't the kind of credibility I find worthwhile.
 
2017-11-07 12:15:33 PM  

Muta: johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.

But Sanders couldn't tackle.


We don't don't know if he could tackle or not...he never tried.

/truth hurts, huh Neon?
 
2017-11-07 12:16:56 PM  
Sanders strikes me as similar to Jordan: shocking insecurity for one of the best ever. Do you honestly think you have anything left to prove, that no one respects you? Seriously, get a grip. Plus, Romo isn't even wrong. Sanders has made jokes in the past about how he doesn't tackle.
 
2017-11-07 12:27:54 PM  
If anyone is making QBs miserable, it's Gruden.  I'd consider tanking my college career to avoid having to sit down with that ass.
 
2017-11-07 12:30:34 PM  
All I know is Romo is the clear MVP this season.
 
2017-11-07 12:31:01 PM  
And yet nothing Sanders said refuted what Romo or THE REST OF THE LEAGUE says about his well known history of miserable tackling.  It's sad when someone doesn't understand what their own reputation is and can't accept it.
 
2017-11-07 12:54:25 PM  
I loved Sanders in his prime. Gameday prime is unwatchable though. Just idiots yelling. Makes espn look emmy worthy. Ive enjoyed Romo all season, however.
 
2017-11-07 12:54:39 PM  

Gubbo: Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.


God, I just wish he would shut up for 5 seconds. I know he's the commentator, but every once in awhile he can stop talking so we can hear the sounds of the game. He is like that annoying guy who showed up at your friend's house who is so eager to show you how much he knows about football and will.not.shut.it.
 
2017-11-07 01:02:17 PM  
 
2017-11-07 01:03:35 PM  

meera's frog spear: Gubbo: Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

God, I just wish he would shut up for 5 seconds. I know he's the commentator, but every once in awhile he can stop talking so we can hear the sounds of the game. He is like that annoying guy who showed up at your friend's house who is so eager to show you how much he knows about football and will.not.shut.it.


On the list of complaints, a commentator talking too much is a tricky one.

I'll be honest I hadn't noticed it.

/does with Gruden would talk less
//preferably never
 
2017-11-07 01:28:55 PM  
It's not really a "joke" if it's true. Sanders was an unwilling and/or poor tackler.
 
2017-11-07 01:33:28 PM  
Has anyone else noticed how many flashing lights ESPNs MNF graphics have.  I thought it was going to send me into a seizure last night.
 
2017-11-07 01:34:46 PM  

meera's frog spear: Gubbo: Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

God, I just wish he would shut up for 5 seconds. I know he's the commentator, but every once in awhile he can stop talking so we can hear the sounds of the game. He is like that annoying guy who showed up at your friend's house who is so eager to show you how much he knows about football and will.not.shut.it.


So your RC doesn't have a mute button?

I've loved Romo every chance I've gotten to hear him.

If Deion didn't have self-confidence issues, the correct answer should've been:  "He's right, I couldn't tackle to save my life...and still made the Hall of Fame."

And let that comment just sit to end the argument.
 
2017-11-07 01:36:39 PM  
Sanders always was a horrible tackler.
 
2017-11-07 01:42:05 PM  
They're both right though, but whatever, I love Romo's commentary and I like it when he's sometimes snarky - same goes for PrimeTime's snark.
 
2017-11-07 01:49:42 PM  

Gubbo: meera's frog spear: Gubbo: Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

God, I just wish he would shut up for 5 seconds. I know he's the commentator, but every once in awhile he can stop talking so we can hear the sounds of the game. He is like that annoying guy who showed up at your friend's house who is so eager to show you how much he knows about football and will.not.shut.it.

On the list of complaints, a commentator talking too much is a tricky one.

I'll be honest I hadn't noticed it.

/does with Gruden would talk less
//preferably never


I have liked him, but I can see where someone suggests he tone it down a bit at times.

He was RIDICULOUS LY annoying in one of those games I watched. If anybody remembers the Family Guy skit involving Pictionary... Romo had one of those games where he sounded like the guy screaming "jackal!" He just would. .. NOT shut up, and he was infinitely repetitive.
 
2017-11-07 01:50:58 PM  
Nice deflection.  Jerry Rice wasn't a great tackler either, but he doesn't try to blind you with his rings when you tell him that
 
2017-11-07 01:51:29 PM  
Also, Deion and everyone involved with football, "you ain't won nothing" isn't a farking argument.

 "Oh I sucked at one of my  jobs. Well your dad left your mom when you were a kid!"
 
Al!
2017-11-07 01:51:58 PM  
The jab about the HoF is a joke.  Romo was one of the best QB the league has ever seen; he'll make it in.  He is literally the best QB Dallas has ever had.  The reason his teams underperformed had nothing to do with offense, which would regularly post 4TD in losses, and everything to do with a defense that couldn't stop a toddler on a Big Wheel in wet grass.  Take the 2011 season as an example: the Cowboys finished 8-8, which would make you think they weren't a good team, but only 2 of those losses were by 14 points or more, while 3 of those losses saw them put up 24 or more points.  2012 was almost a carbon copy... at 8-8, the Cowboys saw losses of 29-31, 24-29, 31-38, and 31-34.  My favorite was always the 2013 season, though.  The 'Boys lost games of 48-51, 30-31, 36-37, 22-24, and 28-45.  I remember many of those games being blamed on Romo not being able to score in the final 2 minutes, but, particularly with the loss to Denver 48-51, it cannot possibly be the fault of the offense when you lose a high scoring game and the defense never stops the opponent a single time.  No turnovers, no punts; every Denver drive ended in points on the board.  Denver stopped Dallas once, on the final drive of the game, and Cowboys fans and pundits were calling for his head.  When a team is averaging more than 28 points a game and is only winning half of their games, it is not the fault of the offense.  Ever.
 
2017-11-07 01:55:02 PM  
They're right for once but now that they're not playing I'd take Romo as a commentator who talks too much over Deion who dresses like a buffoon & adds nothing of value to almost any discussion. His oversized knit caps when he's sitting in studio makes him look like a homeless person they dragged in from his dumpster.

As a football fan I wish Romo would let the plays go without the film breakdown & save that for an after show. It's interesting in its place but in real time it can get tedious when you're into the game.
 
2017-11-07 02:08:31 PM  

Al!: Romo was one of the best QB the league has ever seen; he'll make it in


Not sure if serious
 
2017-11-07 02:14:56 PM  

puffy999: Gubbo: meera's frog spear: Gubbo: Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

God, I just wish he would shut up for 5 seconds. I know he's the commentator, but every once in awhile he can stop talking so we can hear the sounds of the game. He is like that annoying guy who showed up at your friend's house who is so eager to show you how much he knows about football and will.not.shut.it.

On the list of complaints, a commentator talking too much is a tricky one.

I'll be honest I hadn't noticed it.

/does with Gruden would talk less
//preferably never

I have liked him, but I can see where someone suggests he tone it down a bit at times.

He was RIDICULOUS LY annoying in one of those games I watched. If anybody remembers the Family Guy skit involving Pictionary... Romo had one of those games where he sounded like the guy screaming "jackal!" He just would. .. NOT shut up, and he was infinitely repetitive.


Yeah, but he's new. I accept that he hasn't quite found the right balance yet and I acknowledge he talks too much sometimes.

That being said, I love his insight and he brings so much to the commentary that I appreciate. And compare how natural he is with Rex Ryan's disastrous outing. Really hoping he becomes a mainstay.
 
2017-11-07 02:25:52 PM  

Al!: The jab about the HoF is a joke. Romo was one of the best QB the league has ever seen; he'll make it in. He is literally the best QB Dallas has ever had. The reason his teams underperformed had nothing to do with offense, which would regularly post 4TD in losses, and everything to do with a defense that couldn't stop a toddler on a Big Wheel in wet grass. Take the 2011 season as an example: the Cowboys finished 8-8, which would make you think they weren't a good team, but only 2 of those losses were by 14 points or more, while 3 of those losses saw them put up 24 or more points. 2012 was almost a carbon copy... at 8-8, the Cowboys saw losses of 29-31, 24-29, 31-38, and 31-34. My favorite was always the 2013 season, though. The 'Boys lost games of 48-51, 30-31, 36-37, 22-24, and 28-45. I remember many of those games being blamed on Romo not being able to score in the final 2 minutes, but, particularly with the loss to Denver 48-51, it cannot possibly be the fault of the offense when you lose a high scoring game and the defense never stops the opponent a single time. No turnovers, no punts; every Denver drive ended in points on the board. Denver stopped Dallas once, on the final drive of the game, and Cowboys fans and pundits were calling for his head. When a team is averaging more than 28 points a game and is only winning half of their games, it is not the fault of the offense. Ever.


There is something to be said about clock control, and the larger part of that is the offense.  The Cowboys lost Time of Possession in every game they lost where they had 28 points or more in 2013(and you should win all of those games).  If you're scoring that many points, you shouldn't have negative TOP differentials.

Regardless, I do agree that Romo was the best passer that the Cowboys ever had.  I don't know that he'll make the hall without a superb owl, though.  I put him with someone like Philip Rivers.  Great passer, bad playoff record(with his own bonehead mistakes that he'll never live down), consistently good, let down by circumstance.  Is that hall material?  Not sure.  As an undrafted QB, he's way behind Warren Moon and Kurt Warner, but better than Jeff Garcia
 
2017-11-07 02:25:58 PM  
I don't really care about the slap fight going on between Romo and Sanders but WTF is the deal with Deion's eyebrows??

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2017-11-07 02:26:22 PM  

Al!: Romo was one of the best QB the league has ever seen; he'll make it in. He is literally the best QB Dallas has ever had.


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2017-11-07 02:26:48 PM  

bhcompy: Jerry Rice wasn't a great tackler either


Jerry Rice's job didn't really require him to be one either.
 
2017-11-07 02:27:23 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: bhcompy: Jerry Rice wasn't a great tackler either

Jerry Rice's job didn't really require him to be one either.


Deion didn't believe his was, either
 
2017-11-07 02:30:35 PM  

MugzyBrown: Al!: Romo was one of the best QB the league has ever seen; he'll make it in

Not sure if serious


Top 10 (with some Top 5 listings) in most QB career stats categories.

/I don't care if he goes in or not, just pointing out that his numbers are better than many that are already in the HoF
 
2017-11-07 02:39:54 PM  
I'll still never forget one time, the Bears were playing Dallas on MNF.  Deion dove at a WR/TE's ankles (can't remember who).  The receiver jumped over Deion and inexplicably dropped the ball in mid-air without any contact at all.  The commentators went on for five farking minutes about what a wonderful tackle Deion made.
 
2017-11-07 02:40:28 PM  

chevydeuce: Top 10 (with some Top 5 listings) in most QB career stats categories.

/I don't care if he goes in or not, just pointing out that his numbers are better than many that are already in the HoF


Ok, first you need to take him in context of his era. Comparing stats to QBs before 2000 is meaningless. With that said.

If you look at just 2000-present

14th in passing yards
11th in TDs
6th in rating

First team All-Pro 0 times
Heck he was only player of the week 5 times.

In his era, he was probably like the 7th best QB. Not close to HOF. Really not under consideration.

So, I'm not sure what you're smokin.
 
2017-11-07 02:44:36 PM  

MugzyBrown: chevydeuce: Top 10 (with some Top 5 listings) in most QB career stats categories.

/I don't care if he goes in or not, just pointing out that his numbers are better than many that are already in the HoF

Ok, first you need to take him in context of his era. Comparing stats to QBs before 2000 is meaningless. With that said.

If you look at just 2000-present

14th in passing yards
11th in TDs
6th in rating

First team All-Pro 0 times
Heck he was only player of the week 5 times.

In his era, he was probably like the 7th best QB. Not close to HOF. Really not under consideration.

So, I'm not sure what you're smokin.


Yeah, Romo was good but not outstanding enough to make it in without a ring.
 
2017-11-07 02:50:22 PM  

edmo: QBs are experts on tackling now?


Romo might win that battle in 4th quarter tackles.
 
2017-11-07 03:20:25 PM  
But Romo was right.  Sanders was a notoriously bad tackler and he often made half-attempts to dive in front of players just to make it look like he went for a tackle.  He was a ball-hawking safety who played cornerback.
 
2017-11-07 03:22:57 PM  

johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.


If we wanna define "best corner" ever, you can't just have a guy who was good at one phase of his game.  He was terrible tackling in the open field and in run support.  Charles Woodson was a better corner than Sanders.
 
2017-11-07 03:32:14 PM  
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2017-11-07 03:39:07 PM  

Gubbo: PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.


Everyone was ready at the start of the season with their "SHUT UP ROMO" gifs...but he made us delete them all...
 
2017-11-07 03:46:08 PM  

Sandusky Knows Best: Benevolent Misanthrope: "Ten years as a starter, you're 2-4 in the playoffs. You ain't won nothing," Sanders said.

Behold the high quality of education received by FSU Student Athletes.

Gubbo: PrimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

Romo is teaching us all something about the game every time he commentates. I know who I'm picking.

Grammar aside, I approve of this.

Maybe he graduated from FSU.


He did not.  And in the quite crowded field of FSU football players who were less than diligent students, Deion is the undisputed champion.  I think he failed his entire final year.
 
2017-11-07 04:05:35 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.

If we wanna define "best corner" ever, you can't just have a guy who was good at one phase of his game.  He was terrible tackling in the open field and in run support.  Charles Woodson was a better corner than Sanders.


Yeah you are right...and your reference brought to mind Rod Woodson and my co worker reminded me of Mel Blount.
 
2017-11-07 04:26:02 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Sanders is right about Romo

Romo is right about Sanders

Sanders is a douchebag

Neither is worth my time


I don't get why Sanders is being deemed the "douchebag" in all of this. Romo roasted him live on national tv unprovoked. Was Sanders supposed be happy about it? Are you people happy about getting trashed talked when you're minding you're own business?
 
2017-11-07 04:32:25 PM  

johnny_vegas: HideAndGoFarkYourself: johnny_vegas: Gubbo: rimeTime is a loud mouth know-nothing who's method of communicating is shouting.

True, BUT he backed up his trash talk on the field by being the best corner of his era, possibly ever.

If we wanna define "best corner" ever, you can't just have a guy who was good at one phase of his game.  He was terrible tackling in the open field and in run support.  Charles Woodson was a better corner than Sanders.

Yeah you are right...and your reference brought to mind Rod Woodson and my co worker reminded me of Mel Blount.


Sanders was undoubtedly a better weapon.  He had about 50-60 receptions in his career and returned both punts and kicks more regularly than Woodson.  I would guess that Woodson was seen as far too valuable to put back on kick and punt returns regularly, since he was such a dominant defender.  Woodson's return game in college was downright scary and is probably the reason he won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.
 
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