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2017-11-05 08:59:52 AM  
My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope
 
2017-11-05 10:21:14 AM  
I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.
 
2017-11-05 10:33:28 AM  

Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope


As a long-suffering Hawkeye fan, I...
 
2017-11-05 10:42:11 AM  
It's all according to plan, the plan being all-SEC playoffs all the time.
 
2017-11-05 10:44:50 AM  

FlashHarry: Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope

As a long-suffering Hawkeye fan, I...


That was certainly unexpected. I'm wondering where that team has been all year.

As for the headline, are we thinking  three SEC teams and Notre Dame? Because that's not happening.
 
2017-11-05 10:47:57 AM  

Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope


Dayton basketball starts for real on Friday.  So you've got that going for you.
 
2017-11-05 10:49:11 AM  
Who is left?  SEC, the American Athletic, and heaven forbid Notre Dame?
 
2017-11-05 10:52:12 AM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: Who is left?  SEC, the American Athletic, and heaven forbid Notre Dame?


My list would be...

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Wisconsin
4. Miami

That's as of right now, of course.
 
2017-11-05 11:05:27 AM  

jayphat: I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.


I showed up last night.

I don't post after the Penn State win but I do show up after the Iowa loss and have never not shown up after a loss yet you're "waiting?" Got it.

Iowa won fair and square and it is my fault for talking shiat for years about Kirk Ferentz being mediocre.

Yesterday was still a good day though, I'll joke around about Navy but at least they're part of the military so I have respect for them which is why I give them shiat in the first place. I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.

So good and bad yesterday but I wouldn't trade one win with one team so that the other could get one instead, I tip my cap to Iowa. I'm just glad it wasn't against one of their long line of white running backs.
 
2017-11-05 11:07:33 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: FlashHarry: Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope

As a long-suffering Hawkeye fan, I...

That was certainly unexpected. I'm wondering where that team has been all year.

As for the headline, are we thinking  three SEC teams and Notre Dame? Because that's not happening.


Not to give you a case of the heebie jeebies but I thought about you last night.
 
2017-11-05 11:12:13 AM  

WoodyHayes: jayphat: I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.

I showed up last night.

I don't post after the Penn State win but I do show up after the Iowa loss and have never not shown up after a loss yet you're "waiting?" Got it.

Iowa won fair and square and it is my fault for talking shiat for years about Kirk Ferentz being mediocre.

Yesterday was still a good day though, I'll joke around about Navy but at least they're part of the military so I have respect for them which is why I give them shiat in the first place. I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.

So good and bad yesterday but I wouldn't trade one win with one team so that the other could get one instead, I tip my cap to Iowa. I'm just glad it wasn't against one of their long line of white running backs.


Bruh, I graduated from Ohio State. I was just assuming you wouldn't be around today.
 
2017-11-05 11:36:34 AM  

Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope


Having a struggling secondary doesn't bode well against the suddenly fun-and-gun Air Dantonio attack.

You can put some hope that MSU will go back to trying to establish the running game for the first two thirds of the game.
 
2017-11-05 11:40:51 AM  

Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope


I hope Iowa got it all out of their system because they play my Badgers next week. They are coming to Camp Randall so that will help.
 
2017-11-05 11:43:31 AM  
As good as Urban Meyer is as a head coach, he's limited by the assistant coaches. There's been a lot of great talent in the coaching staff that has left to do well in other schools. Meyer needs to fix that revolving door so it's not rotating quite so fast. That's tough, though, because many schools are willing to pay top dollar for unripened coaching talent.

As for the athletes at OSU: they aren't quite reaching the top of their capabilities. My concern is that if it continues, the better high school talent will look to other schools where they can reach higher levels.

Regardless, so long as OSU beats the team up north, we can call this season disappointing but not an outright failure.
 
2017-11-05 11:57:03 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: As for the headline, are we thinking  three SEC teams and Notre Dame? Because that's not happening.


I'm trying to talk myself out of two SEC teams making it, and I just can't get there. The loser of Bama/ UGA is probably the best 1-loss team out there.
 
2017-11-05 12:02:03 PM  

WoodyHayes: jayphat: I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.

I showed up last night.

I don't post after the Penn State win but I do show up after the Iowa loss and have never not shown up after a loss yet you're "waiting?" Got it.

Iowa won fair and square and it is my fault for talking shiat for years about Kirk Ferentz being mediocre.

Yesterday was still a good day though, I'll joke around about Navy but at least they're part of the military so I have respect for them which is why I give them shiat in the first place. I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.

So good and bad yesterday but I wouldn't trade one win with one team so that the other could get one instead, I tip my cap to Iowa. I'm just glad it wasn't against one of their long line of white running backs.


You mean that one white running back who played for three years?

If only one of your QB options was winning.
 
2017-11-05 12:04:00 PM  

WoodyHayes: KiwDaWabbit: FlashHarry: Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope

As a long-suffering Hawkeye fan, I...

That was certainly unexpected. I'm wondering where that team has been all year.

As for the headline, are we thinking  three SEC teams and Notre Dame? Because that's not happening.

Not to give you a case of the heebie jeebies but I thought about you last night.


Aww!

Gonz: KiwDaWabbit: As for the headline, are we thinking  three SEC teams and Notre Dame? Because that's not happening.

I'm trying to talk myself out of two SEC teams making it, and I just can't get there. The loser of Bama/ UGA is probably the best 1-loss team out there.


Well, two could definitely make it, but Auburn hosts both Georgia and Alabama in the last three weeks. To me, Clemson has the path of least resistance as far as getting into the playoffs as long as they don't have another head scratching loss.
 
2017-11-05 12:25:51 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: To me, Clemson has the path of least resistance as far as getting into the playoffs as long as they don't have another head scratching loss.


There's a reason they call it "Clemsoning".
 
2017-11-05 01:04:09 PM  
*If* Wisconsin wins out they are in.  I still see a loss coming at some point though.  Maybe Iowa or Michigan?  Or B1G Championship game?

/hope I'm wrong
//UW is not one of the best 4 teams in the country
///on Wisconsin!
 
2017-11-05 01:25:10 PM  
If Oklahoma wins out and beats most likely TCU twice, I wouldn't count out the Sooners.

Especially with Mayfield probably winning the heisman under those circumstances.
 
2017-11-05 01:39:46 PM  
If Wisconsin wins out, they clearly deserve a spot in the final 4.
 
2017-11-05 02:15:53 PM  
The problem is a 4-team playoff is far too small.   They need set up a 16 team bracket, with each FBS conference champion automatically getting a big, and the remaining 5 being at-large going to deserving teams.

The FCS has a 24 team playoff, and it works very well.  Since FBS teams play one more game per season than FCS they could eliminate that first round and end up with the same number of games (well, I guess one more with the conference championships).
 
2017-11-05 02:29:04 PM  
Wisconsin Oklahoma and Clemson all deserve slots in the final 4 of they win out

So Alabama vs Georgia for the top spot and notre dame can go choke on an alter boy
 
2017-11-05 02:41:46 PM  

FrancoFile: Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope

Dayton basketball starts for real on Friday.  So you've got that going for you.


Go Flyers!

/ my Alma mater
 
2017-11-05 03:25:29 PM  

Nick Nostril: FrancoFile: Nick Nostril: My Buckeye's were absolutely pathetic last night. Looked like a JV high school team out there, and an incompetent one at that.  Of course, we have no defensive secondary and Barrett is inconsistent to the point of absurdity. But, such is the way of college football I guess.

/ Buckeyes could lose out the rest of the season. Well, maybe with the exception if Illinois
// I hope

Dayton basketball starts for real on Friday.  So you've got that going for you.

Go Flyers!

/ my Alma mater


/likewise.
//88 EE
 
2017-11-05 04:05:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The problem is a 4-team playoff is far too small.   They need set up a 16 team bracket, with each FBS conference champion automatically getting a big, and the remaining 5 being at-large going to deserving teams.

The FCS has a 24 team playoff, and it works very well.  Since FBS teams play one more game per season than FCS they could eliminate that first round and end up with the same number of games (well, I guess one more with the conference championships).


YES
 
2017-11-05 04:17:13 PM  

jayphat: WoodyHayes: jayphat: I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.

I showed up last night.

I don't post after the Penn State win but I do show up after the Iowa loss and have never not shown up after a loss yet you're "waiting?" Got it.

Iowa won fair and square and it is my fault for talking shiat for years about Kirk Ferentz being mediocre.

Yesterday was still a good day though, I'll joke around about Navy but at least they're part of the military so I have respect for them which is why I give them shiat in the first place. I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.

So good and bad yesterday but I wouldn't trade one win with one team so that the other could get one instead, I tip my cap to Iowa. I'm just glad it wasn't against one of their long line of white running backs.

Bruh, I graduated from Ohio State. I was just assuming you wouldn't be around today.


Oh fark me, mucho apologies for impugning your honor but I thought you were a certain communist kickball loving drum circle cockface. I was in a rush earlier, many blessings upon your house.
 
2017-11-05 04:38:23 PM  

roostercube: As good as Urban Meyer is as a head coach, he's limited by the assistant coaches. There's been a lot of great talent in the coaching staff that has left to do well in other schools. Meyer needs to fix that revolving door so it's not rotating quite so fast. That's tough, though, because many schools are willing to pay top dollar for unripened coaching talent.

As for the athletes at OSU: they aren't quite reaching the top of their capabilities. My concern is that if it continues, the better high school talent will look to other schools where they can reach higher levels.

Regardless, so long as OSU beats the team up north, we can call this season disappointing but not an outright failure.


I get what you're saying about coaches leaving but really, anything else at this point that we get in terms of success is icing on the cake to me. Meyer and Ohio State make a hell of a story in that the Ohio boy does well elsewhere and wins two national titles with one of them being a big upset over the school of his childhood. Meyer has heart issues and has to step away for his own physical and mental health and then gets back into coaching when his dream job opens up. He goes undefeated his first season here and then wins a national title with two upset wins, slaying the monster of college football to do it in the process. All that and still undefeated against those pig farkers up north!

He owes us nothing and I really hope that if he starts to feel the slightest signs of returning to the shape he was in towards the end at Florida that he walks away happy. Yes, Meyer gets paid amazingly well for his services but if you're not happy or healthy doing something you're supposed to find joy in what is the point?

My mild-mannered father was pissed off last night and while I get a bit of the disappointment I don't understand how people seem to get so angry in that anything less than perfection is somehow a failure to them, how does such an approach not suck the joy out of everything?

Keeping that in mind, getting to the top and staying at the top are two different things entirely which is what makes Nick Saban so damn impressive. As good as we know he is, somehow the success has put us in a place where I don't think we truly appreciate what he has been able to accomplish at Alabama (and LSU before that). "Alabama wins another national title. Ho hum, how about next year?" For Saban to maintain that level of success and still find the motivation to win another national title the next season too or come damn close to it is absolutely remarkable to me. He is human and everybody has a burn out point or else they coast a bit, it is only natural after all and yet it would not appear that he suffers from those afflictions.

Where the hell did all that shiat come from?
 
2017-11-05 04:43:01 PM  

WoodyHayes: jayphat: WoodyHayes: jayphat: I'm just waiting for Woody to show up. But I'm pretty sure he is still massively drunk.

I showed up last night.

I don't post after the Penn State win but I do show up after the Iowa loss and have never not shown up after a loss yet you're "waiting?" Got it.

Iowa won fair and square and it is my fault for talking shiat for years about Kirk Ferentz being mediocre.

Yesterday was still a good day though, I'll joke around about Navy but at least they're part of the military so I have respect for them which is why I give them shiat in the first place. I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.

So good and bad yesterday but I wouldn't trade one win with one team so that the other could get one instead, I tip my cap to Iowa. I'm just glad it wasn't against one of their long line of white running backs.

Bruh, I graduated from Ohio State. I was just assuming you wouldn't be around today.

Oh fark me, mucho apologies for impugning your honor but I thought you were a certain communist kickball loving drum circle cockface. I was in a rush earlier, many blessings upon your house.


I do love the ice goons, but you won't see me anywhere near that communist ball.
 
2017-11-05 04:43:02 PM  

WoodyHayes: roostercube: As good as Urban Meyer is as a head coach, he's limited by the assistant coaches. There's been a lot of great talent in the coaching staff that has left to do well in other schools. Meyer needs to fix that revolving door so it's not rotating quite so fast. That's tough, though, because many schools are willing to pay top dollar for unripened coaching talent.

As for the athletes at OSU: they aren't quite reaching the top of their capabilities. My concern is that if it continues, the better high school talent will look to other schools where they can reach higher levels.

Regardless, so long as OSU beats the team up north, we can call this season disappointing but not an outright failure.

I get what you're saying about coaches leaving but really, anything else at this point that we get in terms of success is icing on the cake to me. Meyer and Ohio State make a hell of a story in that the Ohio boy does well elsewhere and wins two national titles with one of them being a big upset over the school of his childhood. Meyer has heart issues and has to step away for his own physical and mental health and then gets back into coaching when his dream job opens up. He goes undefeated his first season here and then wins a national title with two upset wins, slaying the monster of college football to do it in the process. All that and still undefeated against those pig farkers up north!

He owes us nothing and I really hope that if he starts to feel the slightest signs of returning to the shape he was in towards the end at Florida that he walks away happy. Yes, Meyer gets paid amazingly well for his services but if you're not happy or healthy doing something you're supposed to find joy in what is the point?

My mild-mannered father was pissed off last night and while I get a bit of the disappointment I don't understand how people seem to get so angry in that anything less than perfection is somehow a failure to them, how does such an approach not suck the joy out of ...


I was a kid during the era of 8-and-3 Earl.  How quickly people forget.
 
2017-11-05 04:44:21 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: The problem is a 4-team playoff is far too small.   They need set up a 16 team bracket, with each FBS conference champion automatically getting a big, and the remaining 5 being at-large going to deserving teams.

The FCS has a 24 team playoff, and it works very well.  Since FBS teams play one more game per season than FCS they could eliminate that first round and end up with the same number of games (well, I guess one more with the conference championships).


College football is a special thing in that it easily has the most meaningful regular season of any sport that more than three people care about. That which you seek can be found elsewhere, I like flavor and I simply do not understand those who wish everything in life to be homogeneous.
 
2017-11-05 05:15:53 PM  

WoodyHayes: roostercube:...

I get what you're saying about coaches leaving but really, anything else at this point that we get in terms of success is icing on the cake to me. Meyer and Ohio State make a hell of a story in that the Ohio boy does well elsewhere and wins two national titles with one of them being a big upset over the school of his childhood. Meyer has heart issues and has to step away for his own physical and mental health and then gets back into coaching when his dream job opens up. He goes undefeated his first season here and then wins a national title with two upset wins, slaying the monster of college football to do it in the process. All that and still undefeated against those pig farkers up north!

He owes us nothing and I really hope that if he starts to feel the slightest signs of returning to the shape he was in towards the end at Florida that he walks away happy. Yes, Meyer gets paid amazingly well for his services but if you're not happy or healthy doing something you're supposed to find joy in what is the point?

My mild-mannered father was pissed off last night and while I get a bit of the disappointment I don't understand how people seem to get so angry in that anything less than perfection is somehow a failure to them, how does such an approach not suck the joy out of everything?

Keeping that in mind, getting to the top and staying at the top are two different things entirely which is what makes Nick Saban so damn impressive. As good as we know he is, somehow the success has put us in a place where I don't think we truly appreciate what he has been able to accomplish at Alabama (and LSU before that). "Alabama wins another national title. Ho hum, how about next year?" For Saban to maintain that level of success and still find the motivation to win another national title the next season too or come damn close to it is absolutely remarkable to me. He is human and everybody has a burn out point or else they coast a bit, it is only natural after all and yet it would not appear that he suffers from those afflictions.

Where the hell did all that shiat come from?


I wasn't overly upset or angry with the loss yesterday. It was tough watching the loss to Oklahoma when it seemed like the Buckeyes could have won that game. I expected a horrible loss to PSU, but found myself in awe at the play throughout the last 20 minutes. The players have real talent, but they lack continual discipline that maintains high standards that comes from consistent coaching.

For Urban Meyer, I agree that his health is important. I would rather he enjoy coaching at OSU, and the players and fans appreciate his leadership. My gripe is that he can't seem to hang on to assistants long enough to really allow them to get OSU back into championship form. The head coach is just one guy. Currently, players can end up working with 3-4 assistants throughout their 4-5 years of college eligibility. That's unacceptable, and it's something the athletic director probably needs to help correct. Some of this can be corrected with money, and some requires assistant coaches to buy in to getting another championship, even if they have to stay for a couple extra years.
 
2017-11-05 05:33:41 PM  
TheFoz:
//UW is not one of the best 4 teams in the country

I don't disagree (special teams play is terrible, receiver corps is way thin,  and Browning doesn't play well when under pressure), but I would like to point out that Fresno State is not a cupcake when Alabama plays them, and while Mercer would get waxed by Montana State High School they still aren't a cupcake when Alabama plays them.   See also:  Colorado State.

The beef on UW is "Their out of conference schedule is weak!"  As if everyone else wasn't, too.

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Clemson
4. Wisconson

/ Go Dawgs!
 
2017-11-05 05:34:45 PM  

WoodyHayes: TuteTibiImperes: The problem is a 4-team playoff is far too small.   They need set up a 16 team bracket, with each FBS conference champion automatically getting a big, and the remaining 5 being at-large going to deserving teams.

The FCS has a 24 team playoff, and it works very well.  Since FBS teams play one more game per season than FCS they could eliminate that first round and end up with the same number of games (well, I guess one more with the conference championships).

College football is a special thing in that it easily has the most meaningful regular season of any sport that more than three people care about. That which you seek can be found elsewhere, I like flavor and I simply do not understand those who wish everything in life to be homogeneous.


Going to a larger playoff bracket wouldn't change that.  I follow the FCS, and the regular season absolutely matters, because everyone is jockeying for those playoff spots, or for that first week bye (since the FCS has a 24 team playoff) or home field advantage for as long as possible.

There's the argument that 'well, if there are playoffs losing one isn't a big deal because then you can still win it all in the playoffs' but the counterpoint to that is 'if you lose a few games in the regular season you still have a reason to be invested in your team's games because instead of being relegated to a 2nd rate bowl they still have the chance to win it all'.
 
2017-11-05 05:35:40 PM  

FrancoFile: WoodyHayes: roostercube: As good as Urban Meyer is as a head coach, he's limited by the assistant coaches. There's been a lot of great talent in the coaching staff that has left to do well in other schools. Meyer needs to fix that revolving door so it's not rotating quite so fast. That's tough, though, because many schools are willing to pay top dollar for unripened coaching talent.

As for the athletes at OSU: they aren't quite reaching the top of their capabilities. My concern is that if it continues, the better high school talent will look to other schools where they can reach higher levels.

Regardless, so long as OSU beats the team up north, we can call this season disappointing but not an outright failure.

I get what you're saying about coaches leaving but really, anything else at this point that we get in terms of success is icing on the cake to me. Meyer and Ohio State make a hell of a story in that the Ohio boy does well elsewhere and wins two national titles with one of them being a big upset over the school of his childhood. Meyer has heart issues and has to step away for his own physical and mental health and then gets back into coaching when his dream job opens up. He goes undefeated his first season here and then wins a national title with two upset wins, slaying the monster of college football to do it in the process. All that and still undefeated against those pig farkers up north!

He owes us nothing and I really hope that if he starts to feel the slightest signs of returning to the shape he was in towards the end at Florida that he walks away happy. Yes, Meyer gets paid amazingly well for his services but if you're not happy or healthy doing something you're supposed to find joy in what is the point?

My mild-mannered father was pissed off last night and while I get a bit of the disappointment I don't understand how people seem to get so angry in that anything less than perfection is somehow a failure to them, how does such an approach not suck the joy out of ...

I was a kid during the era of 8-and-3 Earl.  How quickly people forget.


Same,. One of my earliest Ohio State memories is seeing the news with the crowd of people singing on Earle Bruce's lawn. He did deserve to be fired but the way it went down was less than classy, though class can be difficult to achieve properly in such a circumstance.

Needless to say he was a much better "elder statesman" than a head coach and without him being a father figure to Urban Meyer we most likely don't get Meyer a quarter century later, life is funny with such things.
 
2017-11-05 05:36:55 PM  

WoodyHayes: Where the hell did all that shiat come from?


The guy that gave him his break and taught  him how to coach a program...

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2017-11-05 05:37:31 PM  

Rent Party: TheFoz:
//UW is not one of the best 4 teams in the country

I don't disagree (special teams play is terrible, receiver corps is way thin,  and Browning doesn't play well when under pressure), but I would like to point out that Fresno State is not a cupcake when Alabama plays them, and while Mercer would get waxed by Montana State High School they still aren't a cupcake when Alabama plays them.   See also:  Colorado State.

The beef on UW is "Their out of conference schedule is weak!"  As if everyone else wasn't, too.

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Clemson
4. Wisconson

/ Go Dawgs!


With the new rankings out *currently* Iowa and Michigan are ranked, plus B1G Champ game will be against a ranked opponent so UW has an opportunity to get some "signature wins".

/That's why they play the games, etc. :D
//looking forward to that monster SEC title game too
///slashies
 
2017-11-05 05:39:18 PM  

roostercube: I wasn't overly upset or angry with the loss yesterday. It was tough watching the loss to Oklahoma when it seemed like the Buckeyes could have won that game. I expected a horrible loss to PSU, but found myself in awe at the play throughout the last 20 minutes. The players have real talent, but they lack continual discipline that maintains high standards that comes from consistent coaching.

For Urban Meyer, I agree that his health is important. I would rather he enjoy coaching at OSU, and the players and fans appreciate his leadership. My gripe is that he can't seem to hang on to assistants long enough to really allow them to get OSU back into championship form. The head coach is just one guy. Currently, players can end up working with 3-4 assistants throughout their 4-5 years of college eligibility. That's unacceptable, and it's something the athletic director probably needs to help correct. Some of this can be corrected with money, and some requires assistant coaches to buy in to getting another championship, even if they have to stay for a couple extra years.


I think your comments pertaining to assistant coaches is what I was going for in my verbal blowjob of Nick Saban before I got sidetracked.

I agree with the other paragraph as well.
 
2017-11-05 05:39:58 PM  

TheFoz: Rent Party: TheFoz:
//UW is not one of the best 4 teams in the country

I don't disagree (special teams play is terrible, receiver corps is way thin,  and Browning doesn't play well when under pressure), but I would like to point out that Fresno State is not a cupcake when Alabama plays them, and while Mercer would get waxed by Montana State High School they still aren't a cupcake when Alabama plays them.   See also:  Colorado State.

The beef on UW is "Their out of conference schedule is weak!"  As if everyone else wasn't, too.

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Clemson
4. Wisconson

/ Go Dawgs!

With the new rankings out *currently* Iowa and Michigan are ranked, plus B1G Champ game will be against a ranked opponent so UW has an opportunity to get some "signature wins".

/That's why they play the games, etc. :D
//looking forward to that monster SEC title game too
///slashies


Wait wait wait...

Does UW = University of Washignton or University of Wisconsin?

I speaketh of the Huskies, not the Badgers.
 
2017-11-05 05:46:04 PM  

Rent Party: TheFoz: Rent Party: TheFoz:
//UW is not one of the best 4 teams in the country

I don't disagree (special teams play is terrible, receiver corps is way thin,  and Browning doesn't play well when under pressure), but I would like to point out that Fresno State is not a cupcake when Alabama plays them, and while Mercer would get waxed by Montana State High School they still aren't a cupcake when Alabama plays them.   See also:  Colorado State.

The beef on UW is "Their out of conference schedule is weak!"  As if everyone else wasn't, too.

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Clemson
4. Wisconson

/ Go Dawgs!

With the new rankings out *currently* Iowa and Michigan are ranked, plus B1G Champ game will be against a ranked opponent so UW has an opportunity to get some "signature wins".

/That's why they play the games, etc. :D
//looking forward to that monster SEC title game too
///slashies

Wait wait wait...

Does UW = University of Washignton or University of Wisconsin?

I speaketh of the Huskies, not the Badgers.


Badgers...
 
2017-11-05 05:48:03 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: WoodyHayes: TuteTibiImperes: The problem is a 4-team playoff is far too small.   They need set up a 16 team bracket, with each FBS conference champion automatically getting a big, and the remaining 5 being at-large going to deserving teams.

The FCS has a 24 team playoff, and it works very well.  Since FBS teams play one more game per season than FCS they could eliminate that first round and end up with the same number of games (well, I guess one more with the conference championships).

College football is a special thing in that it easily has the most meaningful regular season of any sport that more than three people care about. That which you seek can be found elsewhere, I like flavor and I simply do not understand those who wish everything in life to be homogeneous.

Going to a larger playoff bracket wouldn't change that.  I follow the FCS, and the regular season absolutely matters, because everyone is jockeying for those playoff spots, or for that first week bye (since the FCS has a 24 team playoff) or home field advantage for as long as possible.

There's the argument that 'well, if there are playoffs losing one isn't a big deal because then you can still win it all in the playoffs' but the counterpoint to that is 'if you lose a few games in the regular season you still have a reason to be invested in your team's games because instead of being relegated to a 2nd rate bowl they still have the chance to win it all'.


Sorry but I've talked that one out way too many times over the years in too many places to have any heart left to do it again. I do appreciate you making your case though and I really do mean that but we'll have to just agree to disagree.

I do like 1-AA football though. Maybe you'll know what it is off the top of your head but I seem to recall an inexplicable two point conversion attempt involving Furman and somebody else on the last play of a game (title game?) getting ran back to win it when the try wasn't even necessary. Not simply unnecessary but literally mathematically unnecessary to win the game and they lost because of it.

I'm sure some details are off but I know it involved Furman, does that ring a bell at all from maybe a decade ago?

If it means anything I'm always watching Georgia Southern and Youngstown State games on a phone for my secondary game.
 
2017-11-05 05:52:02 PM  

Rent Party: WoodyHayes: Where the hell did all that shiat come from?

The guy that gave him his break and taught  him how to coach a program...

[www.nwsportsbeat.com image 412x232]


Indeed.
 
2017-11-05 06:12:08 PM  

Army dude: If Wisconsin wins out, they clearly deserve a spot in the final 4.


Nope.

And I'm saying this as a lifetime-Madisonian with so_many_less_than_threes for my Badgers.

SOS has to factor as heavily as it does, or else you're incentivizing poor out-of-conf. scheduling -- last year it worked in Bucky's favor, this year it didn't. So it goes.
 
2017-11-05 06:15:32 PM  

gameshowhost: Army dude: If Wisconsin wins out, they clearly deserve a spot in the final 4.

Nope.

And I'm saying this as a lifetime-Madisonian with so_many_less_than_threes for my Badgers.

SOS has to factor as heavily as it does, or else you're incentivizing poor out-of-conf. scheduling -- last year it worked in Bucky's favor, this year it didn't. So it goes.


and off course whether they actually deserve it or not depends highly on how all the other top teams fare the next few weeks. We'll see how everything shakes out.
 
2017-11-05 06:15:55 PM  
-_-

*of

dammit
 
2017-11-05 06:22:46 PM  

gameshowhost: Army dude: If Wisconsin wins out, they clearly deserve a spot in the final 4.

Nope.

And I'm saying this as a lifetime-Madisonian with so_many_less_than_threes for my Badgers.

SOS has to factor as heavily as it does, or else you're incentivizing poor out-of-conf. scheduling -- last year it worked in Bucky's favor, this year it didn't. So it goes.


In conference scheduling isn't helping Wisconsin either.  At least now Iowa and Michigan are ranked, plus whoever comes out of the East Division for B1G Champ game.  I don't think UW is a top 4 team, buuuuut if they win out I think they go.

YMMV..
 
2017-11-05 06:49:48 PM  

WoodyHayes: I do not respect the Air Force, and Army beat them 21-0 not only without completing a pass but without even attempting one. It was man football and it was beyond glorious.  As far as perfect football goes, I must sheepishly offer however that it was still just a notch below Navy having a 14:58 drive.


Navy's 14:58 drive ended in a field goal. Army scored three rushing touchdowns.

Army played more perfect football. Just farking MAN-some.
 
2017-11-05 06:52:44 PM  

TheFoz: gameshowhost: Army dude: If Wisconsin wins out, they clearly deserve a spot in the final 4.

Nope.

And I'm saying this as a lifetime-Madisonian with so_many_less_than_threes for my Badgers.

SOS has to factor as heavily as it does, or else you're incentivizing poor out-of-conf. scheduling -- last year it worked in Bucky's favor, this year it didn't. So it goes.

In conference scheduling isn't helping Wisconsin either.  At least now Iowa and Michigan are ranked, plus whoever comes out of the East Division for B1G Champ game.  I don't think UW is a top 4 team, buuuuut if they win out I think they go.

YMMV..


Just too many feebs in the B1G West right now. Yeah I dunno how it'll shake out but if everyone else above them wins out (ok GA/AL would necessarily yield a loss)... oy.. hard case to make.
 
2017-11-05 06:58:46 PM  

Rent Party: Does UW = University of Washignton or University of Wisconsin?


ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY STEAL UW FROM WI

/not actually angry irl
 
2017-11-06 09:23:56 AM  
With only 4 slots available, I'm firmly in the camp of "If you don't win your conference, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs". I don't care who looks good. If you can't win on the field, being pretty shouldn't get you in.
 
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