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(Gizmodo)   Tim Cook says if you can afford good coffee every day, you can afford the $1,000 Apple iPhone X   ( gizmodo.com) divider line
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2017-11-03 09:10:09 AM  
Yeah, I can afford that phone, but I'm not buying it. I have an iPhone SE that I'm perfectly happy with. I miss my 5s, but it shiat the bed about 6 months ago. I upgraded to this.
 
2017-11-03 09:12:48 AM  
People who can't afford to buy a cup of coffee per day will buy these. Their kids have no good shoes or clothes.  But hey, the at least have the greatest phone in the world!
 
2017-11-03 09:14:13 AM  
Who can afford good coffee every day, though?  Does he know what country this is?
 
2017-11-03 09:14:13 AM  
I'm looking to upgrade to the 8 Plus, but the X seems a little too much.
 
2017-11-03 09:14:27 AM  
Pfft! That would severely cut into my weekly tea light budget.
 
2017-11-03 09:18:20 AM  
It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.
 
2017-11-03 09:24:53 AM  
Typical rich guy attitude.

"If you can afford one of these items, surely you can afford both of these items."
 
2017-11-03 09:30:15 AM  
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Just spilled one of these on my Android knock-off.
It dissolved.
 
2017-11-03 09:30:42 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.


Yeah, but you can get steep discounts on some of these.  For example, the S8 my GF and I got from T-Mobile as a buy one get one free.  So ~$400 really.  And that has always been the case with my experience with smartphones.  The retail tag is in no way what you pay.  At least I have never.  Apple seems to not do that.
 
2017-11-03 09:39:38 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.


I was really liking the LG V30, until I found out it has a shiat screen, same problem with the Pixel 2XL. They both use LG panels.

Not that I was really in the market anyway, my S4 with LinageOS on it is doing quite well.
 
2017-11-03 09:46:53 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.


I consider 25-30% more to be "much more," especially in the upper triple digits. And the base model doesn't have enough space for my needs.

Good on Apple if people are buying. I could use the excuse to get out of the cell phone upgrade cycle.
 
2017-11-03 09:49:56 AM  
I don't think I'd go without coffee for a year in order to get another rehashed vanity item.
 
2017-11-03 09:51:57 AM  
My phone has a massive battery that means I can do 5+ hours of pokemon go while streaming audio. I paid about $600CDN in the spring with a warranty extension, unlocked from Newegg.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product​.​aspx?Item=N82E16875220054

It's now down under $500 ($320) in the US. It's a perfectly cromulant fone.
 
2017-11-03 09:52:04 AM  
By that reasoning, if you can afford a $1000 iGadget, you can afford to support local coffee businesses.
 
2017-11-03 09:58:52 AM  
Being able to afford it doesn't mean that I will buy it.
 
2017-11-03 09:59:05 AM  
I love how Apple is finally including the ability to wirelessly charge their phones, something that android phones have been able to do for years now.
 
2017-11-03 09:59:08 AM  
Well, it might be worth it if they have finally perfected the microwave oven fast-charge technology.
 
2017-11-03 09:59:21 AM  
Good Coffee? Doesn't he realize most people just go to Starbuck's instead?
 
2017-11-03 10:00:46 AM  

AntonChigger: I love how Apple is finally including the ability to wirelessly charge their phones, something that android phones have been able to do for years now.


PRACTICKLEH MAHJICK!!!
 
2017-11-03 10:02:22 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.


Those prices are stupid as well. Apple taught people that you could and should pay that much, otherwise its obviously not a premium phone.

My Google Nexus 6P cost 1/3 of the Pixed 2 XL, and is actually a better phone, given that it actually works.

Oh, and I've sideloaded all of the extras from Pixel 2 I cared about. Like Live Wall paper and the new camera software that was exclusive to the Pixel 2, except, I got it before the Pixel 2 was released.
 
2017-11-03 10:07:38 AM  
Have fun dropping $300 every time your screen cracks too...
 
2017-11-03 10:10:40 AM  

Boo_Guy: TuteTibiImperes: It's pricey, but not that much more than other flagship phones.  The Pixel 2 XL is $850, the Samsung Galaxy S8 is $750, the LG V30 is $810, etc.

I was really liking the LG V30, until I found out it has a shiat screen, same problem with the Pixel 2XL. They both use LG panels.

Not that I was really in the market anyway, my S4 with LinageOS on it is doing quite well.


What is really sad is that the HTC U11 Plus was supposed to be the Pixel 2 XL:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/2/16​5​98218/google-pixel-2xl-htc-u11-plus-de​sign-plans-change

It looks like it would have been a much better phone.
 
2017-11-03 10:12:48 AM  
It's a question of priorities. If you can afford $1000/year to pay someone else to make you coffee, yes, you can afford a $1000 phone. It's up to you which is more important if you can't afford both. If you can't afford $1000/year on coffee, then you can't afford an iDevice either. It's a premium brand, meaning it's by definition not for everyone. Go be poor somewhere else?

/Choosing to stick with my cracked iPhone 6S for the foreseeable future
//I'm prioritising asset building over gadgets
///I'll go be poor somewhere else
 
2017-11-03 10:21:28 AM  

Shaggy_C: It's a question of priorities. If you can afford $1000/year to pay someone else to make you coffee, yes, you can afford a $1000 phone. It's up to you which is more important if you can't afford both. If you can't afford $1000/year on coffee, then you can't afford an iDevice either. It's a premium brand, meaning it's by definition not for everyone. Go be poor somewhere else?


Thank you.  Well spoken.  Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.  I'd far prefer to take that 1K and put it toward principal on my house, or buying a share or two of some commercial property, or perhaps a nice bond fund or something.  Buy things that pay you money.  That's buying an asset.  The phone is not an asset.  It is a rapidly depreciating bauble that will never pay you anything for owning it.

It might be a useful too if you use it as such...but most people just use it to watch cat videos and tweet about how awful their life is.
 
2017-11-03 10:32:01 AM  
fark Apple.
 
2017-11-03 10:36:25 AM  
I get a cup of coffee at McDonalds for $1 maybe once a week, and my Moto G3 cost me $90.

The coffee is good, the phone sucks. I miss my Windows phone. It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and pay the Apple tax if I want a phone with an OS that doesn't look and act as though it was hacked together overnight in someone's basement over a bag of Cheetos and a case of Mountain Dew.
 
2017-11-03 10:38:38 AM  

pdieten: I get a cup of coffee at McDonalds for $1 maybe once a week, and my Moto G3 cost me $90.

The coffee is good, the phone sucks. I miss my Windows phone. It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and pay the Apple tax if I want a phone with an OS that doesn't look and act as though it was hacked together overnight in someone's basement over a bag of Cheetos and a case of Mountain Dew.


Apple isn't exactly setting the world on fire with their new os.
 
2017-11-03 10:40:24 AM  
He's not wrong. There are enough people with disposable income to burn that they will sell a bunch of these.

Now, whether or not those individuals SHOULD be burning that income on phones (as opposed to a retirement plan, house payments, saving for their kids' education, etc.)? That's a little different.
 
2017-11-03 10:44:24 AM  

mjbok: pdieten: I get a cup of coffee at McDonalds for $1 maybe once a week, and my Moto G3 cost me $90.

The coffee is good, the phone sucks. I miss my Windows phone. It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and pay the Apple tax if I want a phone with an OS that doesn't look and act as though it was hacked together overnight in someone's basement over a bag of Cheetos and a case of Mountain Dew.

Apple isn't exactly setting the world on fire with their new os.


Yeah, I know, the iPhone 7 with iOS 11 that I use for work isn't exactly a paragon of elegance. But it's not worse than the Moto, and the Bluetooth is reliable.
 
2017-11-03 10:55:31 AM  

mjbok: pdieten: I get a cup of coffee at McDonalds for $1 maybe once a week, and my Moto G3 cost me $90.

The coffee is good, the phone sucks. I miss my Windows phone. It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and pay the Apple tax if I want a phone with an OS that doesn't look and act as though it was hacked together overnight in someone's basement over a bag of Cheetos and a case of Mountain Dew.

Apple isn't exactly setting the world on fire with their new os.


Only cause Samsung's got that covered.
 
2017-11-03 10:55:43 AM  
 I can pretty much have anything I want,  I just cant have everything I want. The IPhone  doesn't make the cut.
 
2017-11-03 10:56:52 AM  
I don't need connectivity for work, so I just said fark it and went back to my Nokia. When T-Mobile drops GSM I'l just change providers. Don't miss my smartphone at all.
 
2017-11-03 10:59:43 AM  

A Cave Geek: Thank you.  Well spoken.  Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.  I'd far prefer to take that 1K and put it toward principal on my house, or buying a share or two of some commercial property, or perhaps a nice bond fund or something.  Buy things that pay you money.  That's buying an asset.


A lot of those are long-term investments which are an anathema to millennial coffee-goers. The long time frames (even one year) on bonds is very unattractive to most young people who can't see past the next day, let alone the next six to twelve months. I would recommend for your average millennial that they find a nice monthly dividend stock like MAIN, O, PBA or any of the low-cost bond funds (BND, BLV, VWOB) and enjoy the nice 5-7% return with monthly payouts. They can actually see the value increasing over time and without losing access to their capital if they want to pull it back out. Then, by end of the year, they still have $1000 invested, $50 in cash, and if they're lucky, the $1000 is worth more like $1100 thanks to capital gains. Win, win, win.

But they don't get their fancy phone for that year. Tragedy.
 
2017-11-03 10:59:55 AM  

drewogatory: I don't need connectivity for work, so I just said fark it and went back to my Nokia. When T-Mobile drops GSM I'l just change providers. Don't miss my smartphone at all.


What do you do when you're pooping on the company dime?
 
2017-11-03 11:04:36 AM  

Merltech: People who can't afford to buy a cup of coffee per day will buy these. Their kids have no good shoes or clothes.  But hey, the at least have the greatest phone in the world!


Yeah, this is the sad thing.

I remember the early days of large flat-screen TVs when they were extremely expensive.

There were two types of people who had them:
- People with a lot of money
- People who couldn't afford to send their kids to school with a lunch
 
2017-11-03 11:06:16 AM  
Looks pretty sweet.  I'll probably grab one as my Xmas gift to myself sometime in the next month or two, replace my ~2yo phone.
 
2017-11-03 11:07:07 AM  
I'm just commenting to say I LOL'ed at this ad placement.

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2017-11-03 11:14:58 AM  
I've never found a coffee I would call good, so I'm guessing good coffee is very very expensive. Probably more expensive than the new iPhone
 
kab
2017-11-03 11:16:13 AM  
Tim Cook seems to believe you can afford one, too, because if you break a monthly payment plan down, it's "less than a coffee a day at one of those expensive coffee places."

In other words, let them eat iCake
 
2017-11-03 11:17:20 AM  

Merltech: People who can't afford to buy a cup of coffee per day will buy these. Their kids have no good shoes or clothes.  But hey, the at least have the greatest phone in the world!


Why not both?
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2017-11-03 11:20:35 AM  

Ambivalence: Who can afford good coffee every day, though?  Does he know what country this is?


[looks at Starbucks revenue]

$20billion/year.

Lots of people.
 
2017-11-03 11:21:57 AM  
What about the people who drink Folgers for free at work and still use a Galaxy S4?
 
2017-11-03 11:25:48 AM  

Hagbardr: What about the people who drink Folgers for free at work and still use a Galaxy S4?


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2017-11-03 11:29:42 AM  
Priorities.

It seems I know plenty of people who never seem to have 2 nickels to rub together, but somehow always manage to have the latest phone and the floorbad of their clapped out car is littered with empty coffee cups fast food bags.

My priorities are different, and I am still happy with my 5s.  I may get the SE, just because it can do contactless payments.
 
2017-11-03 11:29:52 AM  
So basically it's a kick to the dick for an African child every day?

Call Sally Struthers.
 
2017-11-03 11:31:34 AM  

Snarfangel: Hagbardr: What about the people who drink Folgers for free at work and still use a Galaxy S4?

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That's not an invention I ever thought I would need.

Still isn't.
 
2017-11-03 11:32:10 AM  

clancifer: I'm looking to upgrade to the 8 Plus, but the X seems a little too much.


I just got the 8+ because I dropped my 6 on the cement floor and shattered it. I like the 8+ a lot, but I am still getting used to some things. I was going to use my noise-reducing earbuds with it yesterday when I remembered that I don't have a headphone jack. Battery life seems a lot better and my old phone used to get so hot that it was uncomfortable to hold.
 
2017-11-03 11:33:24 AM  
Coffee is bad
 
2017-11-03 11:33:40 AM  

QFarker: Priorities.

It seems I know plenty of people who never seem to have 2 nickels to rub together, but somehow always manage to have the latest phone and the floorbad of their clapped out car is littered with empty coffee cups fast food bags.

My priorities are different, and I am still happy with my 5s.  I may get the SE, just because it can do contactless payments.


The best are the folks with $1,000 sleeve tattoos but no money.
 
2017-11-03 11:35:48 AM  
That's not even the stupidest thing to come out of Apple regarding iPhone X. They made it impossible to pre-order a SIM-free handset, and even now it's not possible to order a SIM-free handset online. The ordering process at apple.com forces you to cough up a phone number and your existing carrier account info. I'm not that because I don't want a crippled A1901 (GSM/LTE-only) handset. I want the A1865 model that also supports CDMA because it will have a higher resale value, and because if T-Mobile pisses me off the way AT&T did, I want to be able to go to Verizon or Sprint. You can't do that with an A1901's shiat modem.

/Sounds like something an Auburn grad would come up with.
//Oh yeah, Tim Cook is an Auburn grad.
 
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