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2017-10-21 12:52:31 PM  
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2017-10-21 01:48:06 PM  
Haven't subscribed to a newspaper in years.  Got NYT and WaPo subscriptions this year.

/46
//Off my lawn
 
2017-10-21 01:49:44 PM  
And still the major news sources can't call these assholes liars. Only the WaPo is doing good work.
 
2017-10-21 01:50:10 PM  
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2017-10-21 02:00:14 PM  
They like to do the crossword while eating avacado toast.
 
2017-10-21 02:03:48 PM  
The Wailers with Bob Marley and Peter Tosh - You Can't Blame The Youth
Youtube M3pi-6fInng
 
2017-10-21 02:05:47 PM  

enry: Haven't subscribed to a newspaper in years.  Got NYT and WaPo subscriptions this year.

/46
//Off my lawn


I'm in my early 40's, and I've never subscribed to a newspaper. I subscribed to the Washington Post earlier this year - digital and physical.

Real journalism - not that "conservative" clickbait, make up lies for the con-game bullshiat - needs to be supported. They have rent to pay, staff to employ. Newspapers need money. I'm helping give them some.

I feel pretty good about that.
 
2017-10-21 02:06:17 PM  
I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

Instead we get CNN crap of "Trump just tweeted something, here is an hour long panel discussion of 12 people yelling at each other." or worse yet Faux News and Brietbart "Trump just tweeted something, here are the previously distributed talking points."
 
2017-10-21 02:06:34 PM  
That's as important to me as rising sales of flan, unless they learn something and vote accordingly.

I'd like to say the numbers prove something to Drumpf, but he's super dense, impervious to facts.
 
2017-10-21 02:10:08 PM  

phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

Instead we get CNN crap of "Trump just tweeted something, here is an hour long panel discussion of 12 people yelling at each other." or worse yet Faux News and Brietbart "Trump just tweeted something, here are the previously distributed talking points."


One reason the Republicans are so dominant is that they know how to control the news cycle. Rove and crew were the real geniuses here, and they've only improved since then. The American media falls for it every time, like a bunch of six year olds chasing a soccer ball (in Jon Stewart's words). If they don't get better at this, we will keep failing as a country.
 
2017-10-21 02:12:28 PM  
I thought the print media was mainly embracing Youth In Asia.

Then again getting one's news from a published weekly might aid people's sanity. Viewing breaking coverage of all of Team Trump's sideshow attention whoring and legerdemain can be taxing as it is meant to be. Stepping back a bit can give a more coherent perspective,
 
2017-10-21 02:17:16 PM  

Mad_Radhu: They like to do the crossword while eating avacado toast.


That's because it's delicious.  Why does avocado toast get such a bad wrap?  it's just food, it didn't do anything.
 
2017-10-21 02:25:03 PM  

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What's a Yuut......ah, never mind
 
2017-10-21 02:29:45 PM  

HairBolus: I thought the print media was mainly embracing Youth In Asia.


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2017-10-21 02:31:32 PM  

HairBolus: I thought the print media was mainly embracing Youth In Asia.

Then again getting one's news from a published weekly might aid people's sanity. Viewing breaking coverage of all of Team Trump's sideshow attention whoring and legerdemain can be taxing as it is meant to be. Stepping back a bit can give a more coherent perspective,


I will vouch like a mutherf**ker for that.
 
2017-10-21 02:31:56 PM  
This is like when Obama drove up demand for guns.
 
2017-10-21 02:32:28 PM  
If only we could teach Trumpers to read and then subscribe to real newspapers.
 
2017-10-21 02:32:31 PM  

raius: Mad_Radhu: They like to do the crossword while eating avacado toast.

That's because it's delicious.  Why does avocado toast get such a bad wrap?  it's just food, it didn't do anything.


morans will pay $10 for it
 
2017-10-21 02:34:29 PM  

mongbiohazard: enry: Haven't subscribed to a newspaper in years.  Got NYT and WaPo subscriptions this year.

/46
//Off my lawn

I'm in my early 40's, and I've never subscribed to a newspaper. I subscribed to the Washington Post earlier this year - digital and physical.

Real journalism - not that "conservative" clickbait, make up lies for the con-game bullshiat - needs to be supported. They have rent to pay, staff to employ. Newspapers need money. I'm helping give them some.

I feel pretty good about that.


Yeah. Inspired now. I was still figuing out a way to bypass wapo links. They keep coming and are decent. I run out of the free ones in the first few days of the month.

/off to paypal i go
 
2017-10-21 02:34:39 PM  
It makes sense. Why pay ten dollars a month to have a physical newspaper physically delivered to your physical home every day when you can pay $35 a month for access to six websites, just so you can read opinion links from Facebook that agree with what your FB friends tell you?
 
2017-10-21 02:35:18 PM  
Subby - no one is going down to the corner and buying a newspaper.  They are buying content and reading it online.

/"print" media is dead
 
2017-10-21 02:37:07 PM  
So now we need an article titled "Are Millenials killing the news aggregation website industry"
 
2017-10-21 02:42:11 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: And still the major news sources can't call these assholes liars. Only the WaPo is doing good work.


Add The New Yorker to that short list.
 
2017-10-21 02:43:27 PM  
And the newspapers save utes.
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2017-10-21 02:47:00 PM  

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Just making sure the reference was made.   Leaving happy.
 
2017-10-21 02:47:46 PM  

Petey4335: Yeah. Inspired now. I was still figuing out a way to bypass wapo links. They keep coming and are decent. I run out of the free ones in the first few days of the month.

/off to paypal i go


If you have Amazon Prime, they offer 6 months of free Wa Po, then $3.99/month

The Washington Post Digital Access
 
2017-10-21 02:49:04 PM  

phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.


That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.
 
2017-10-21 02:52:47 PM  

Petey4335: mongbiohazard: enry: Haven't subscribed to a newspaper in years.  Got NYT and WaPo subscriptions this year.

/46
//Off my lawn

I'm in my early 40's, and I've never subscribed to a newspaper. I subscribed to the Washington Post earlier this year - digital and physical.

Real journalism - not that "conservative" clickbait, make up lies for the con-game bullshiat - needs to be supported. They have rent to pay, staff to employ. Newspapers need money. I'm helping give them some.

I feel pretty good about that.

Yeah. Inspired now. I was still figuing out a way to bypass wapo links. They keep coming and are decent. I run out of the free ones in the first few days of the month.

/off to paypal i go


I think $10/month is pretty reasonable for the digital subscription (I pay the same thing for Netflix and will sometimes go weeks without watching anything, while I read WP articles every day).
 
2017-10-21 02:57:37 PM  

raius: Mad_Radhu: They like to do the crossword while eating avacado toast.

That's because it's delicious.  Why does avocado toast get such a bad wrap?  it's just food, it didn't do anything.


Right? I can get it at my local greasy spoon for the same price as everything else on the menu... and it is flipping good!
 
2017-10-21 03:01:57 PM  
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2017-10-21 03:11:19 PM  
Hey, I'm saving newspapers too, and not by subscribing to the local left-wing, AP-copying, unedited, error-riddled cage liner. No, I subscribe to a got-damn NEWSPAPER, the Wall Street Journal, and have for many years.
 
2017-10-21 03:13:07 PM  

phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.


Yeup.  You ca b get your news instant, or in-depth and accurate*.

*within certain tolerances
 
2017-10-21 03:19:57 PM  
...and soon they'll start complaining when the paper shows up at 5:03 instead of 5:00AM.
 
2017-10-21 03:21:18 PM  

phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

Instead we get CNN crap of "Trump just tweeted something, here is an hour long panel discussion of 12 people yelling at each other." or worse yet Faux News and Brietbart "Trump just tweeted something, here are the previously distributed talking points."


"As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.'

In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

Instead we get CNN crap of "Trump just tweeted something, here is an hour long panel discussion of 12 people yelling at each other." or worse yet Faux News and Brietbart "Trump just tweeted something, here are the previously distributed talking points."

One reason the Republicans are so dominant is that they know how to control the news cycle. Rove and crew were the real geniuses here, and they've only improved since then. The American media falls for it every time, like a bunch of six year olds chasing a soccer ball (in Jon Stewart's words). If they don't get better at this, we will keep failing as a country.


Jon Stewart on Crossfire
Youtube aFQFB5YpDZE


"Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations. And we're left out there to mow our lawns."

"By beating up on them? You just said we're too rough on them when they make mistakes."

"No, no, no, you're not too rough on them. You're part of their strategies. You are partisan, what do you call it, hacks."
 
2017-10-21 03:23:01 PM  

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2017-10-21 03:25:38 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

Instead we get CNN crap of "Trump just tweeted something, here is an hour long panel discussion of 12 people yelling at each other." or worse yet Faux News and Brietbart "Trump just tweeted something, here are the previously distributed talking points."

One reason the Republicans are so dominant is that they know how to control the news cycle. Rove and crew were the real geniuses here, and they've only improved since then. The American media falls for it every time, like a bunch of six year olds chasing a soccer ball (in Jon Stewart's words). If they don't get better at this, we will keep failing as a country.


I read an article a while back (I wish I could find it) but it basically discussed how technological advances in media were often accompanied by drastic upheavals in society which took about a generation to calm.  Basically, every time a new form of mass communication is developed society goes crazy until people learn how to consume it.

I would argue that people are returning to subscription based media would indicate that people are learning how to consume internet based media and that there is value in paying for quality.
 
2017-10-21 03:26:06 PM  

thornhill: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.


NPR was definitely guilty of BSAB coverage during the election though. Steve Inskeep in particular  I couldn't believe my ears.
 
2017-10-21 03:30:48 PM  

HairBolus: Youth In Asia.


Like when your dog gets really old and you have to put him down?
 
2017-10-21 03:31:26 PM  

Zerochance: thornhill: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.

NPR was definitely guilty of BSAB coverage during the election though. Steve Inskeep in particular  I couldn't believe my ears.


In journalism, they say you shouldn't write a story which you yourself are involved in, and the American news agencies were definitely involved in the 2016 election.
 
2017-10-21 03:33:39 PM  
Youths like vinyl records too, but it doesn't really mean anything other than what's old is new again.
 
2017-10-21 03:34:39 PM  

Zerochance: thornhill: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.

NPR was definitely guilty of BSAB coverage during the election though. Steve Inskeep in particular  I couldn't believe my ears.


I think that has been one of the biggest successes of right wing media.  They were able to convince so many people that the MSM was so biased that many media outlets completely committed to the BSAB argument to give the appearance of impartiality.  This really gave RWM a lot of power in controlling the narrative as they could claim the MSM was biased if they weren't covering certain stories or talking points.
 
2017-10-21 03:40:19 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Zerochance: thornhill: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.

NPR was definitely guilty of BSAB coverage during the election though. Steve Inskeep in particular  I couldn't believe my ears.

In journalism, they say you shouldn't write a story which you yourself are involved in, and the American news agencies were definitely involved in the 2016 election.


Yet they still report as if they weren't.  As if their driving of certain narratives didn't push the national conversation and sway voters.
 
2017-10-21 03:42:53 PM  
PEOPLE WILL READ AGAIN!
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2017-10-21 03:43:29 PM  
This is just Episode 211 in our ongoing series, Millenials Have To Fix Everything That The Baby Boomers Let Fail Because, 'Fark It, We Got Ours".

/It's still a working title
 
2017-10-21 03:45:45 PM  

jjorsett: Hey, I'm saving newspapers too, and not by subscribing to the local left-wing, AP-copying, unedited, error-riddled cage liner. No, I subscribe to a got-damn NEWSPAPER, the Wall Street Journal, and have for many years.


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2017-10-21 04:03:09 PM  
Its called cord-cutting mother farkers.  Its like 90/mo for farking cable.  Good on the millenials.

//  The younger hotter ones still won't sleep with me.
 
2017-10-21 04:04:42 PM  

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yeah, Subby is a real prize.
 
2017-10-21 04:06:25 PM  

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While we're on a theme

Musical Youth Pass the Dutchie
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2017-10-21 04:10:39 PM  
are they counting all the free trial subscriptions they've been pushing so hard over the last year?
 
2017-10-21 04:12:58 PM  

Zerochance: thornhill: phoenix352: I for one welcome a return to structured media where the readers aren't necessarily the product being sold.  I would frankly also love to see a return to once a day news.  Instant analysis is of incredibly low quality and substance, it often takes at least a few hours to digest the information and create quality reports which actually inform readers or viewers.

That's what NPR does, and their ratings are at an all-time high.

There is a lot of high quality news coverage out there. The problem is that half the nation is absolutely convinced everything but Fox, Breitbart and a few other rightwing outlets are Fake News.

NPR was definitely guilty of BSAB coverage during the election though. Steve Inskeep in particular  I couldn't believe my ears.


I totally agree with you on Inskeep, it's way past time to dump Cokie Roberts, I don't approve of the platform they give to rightwing bloggers to opine, but...

Most of the other hosts are pretty strong, especially Ari Shapiro and Renee Montagne (who sadly left Morning Edition after the election but continues to do excellent reporting), the political team, notably Mara Liasson and Ron Elving do great work and don't play the BSAB game, and in the last year David Folkenflik has been kicking ass with his coverage of the media (he's been tearing into Fox News).
 
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