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2017-10-20 08:59:13 PM  
I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.
 
2017-10-20 09:20:00 PM  
This has been the Republican strategy since at least Nixon. They are much bolder and unapologetic about it now, though.
 
2017-10-20 11:54:37 PM  
SHALL NOT INFRINGE
 
2017-10-20 11:57:03 PM  
But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?
 
2017-10-21 02:28:41 AM  

SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?


Keep in mind voting rights is a recent concept. Before it was restricted to property owners only.  Then only white men. Then women. Then the different  shades.
 
2017-10-21 03:03:13 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


This is a state issue more than a federal issue.  And you may say it's way harder, but under 60% of the population votes in the first place.  So get a platform that rallies people around it, get people engaged and registered and get the laws changed.
 
2017-10-21 03:05:45 AM  
FTFA:  On election night, Anthony was shocked to see Trump carry Wisconsin by nearly 23,000 votes. The state, which ranked second in the nation in voter participation in 2008 and 2012, saw its lowest turnout since 2000. More than half the state's decline in turnout occurred in Milwaukee, which Clinton carried by a 77-18 margin, but where almost 41,000 fewer people voted in 2016 than in 2012. Turnout fell only slightly in white middle-class areas of the city but plunged in black ones.

This is their plan. Don't let them pretend this is an accident.
 
2017-10-21 03:09:20 AM  
It's about voter suppression. Until the people that CAN start farking helping those that CAN'T, we will end up in worse and more dire straits until this nation is finally finished for good.

Of course the farking American dream is pretty much a godamn lie at this point anyway.
 
2017-10-21 03:12:15 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


Go Aussie require everyone to vote.
 
2017-10-21 03:12:25 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


The GOP planned for this and ran so very hard at the state level for 2010. Problem is that their assholery may prevent us from taking states back in 2020.
We need to be planning for 2020 now.
 
2017-10-21 03:14:57 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?

Keep in mind voting rights is a recent concept. Before it was restricted to property owners only.  Then only white men. Then women. Then the different  shades.


Also, isn't the idea of a "secret ballot" also newish?

But, yeah, when you're a Republican and you know your ideas won't fly with the majority, you don't adapt your ideas; you carve the majority up until each of its minority units is smaller than your party.
 
2017-10-21 03:16:47 AM  
US Conservatives have been using voter suppression and disenfranchisement for as long as the US has existed.  Cheating works, and once institutionalized, it's very hard to overcome or stop.
 
2017-10-21 03:22:24 AM  
Oh, I thought this was about Tom Perez nominating Donna Brazile for the DNC rules committee.
 
2017-10-21 03:24:07 AM  
All 3 subjects of the article, from the same family, misplaced their licenses. Remind me to strike them from my contingency babysitter plan
 
2017-10-21 03:26:13 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


Make voting day an actual day of fighting back.  Each polling station is alloted the number of eligible voters in the precinct or area.  Each side suits up and actually fights for their side. (Barehand only, but killing is allowed).  The side that holds the precinct at midnight gets to cast all the votes.
 
2017-10-21 03:28:35 AM  
As if suppressing majority rule wasn't bad enough, Republican politicians often hire lawyers at taxpayer expense to help craft the laws.

Conservatives, will you ever attain the IQ necessary to realize that you've been gamed?
 
2017-10-21 03:35:39 AM  

Cache: As if suppressing majority rule wasn't bad enough, Republican politicians often hire lawyers at taxpayer expense to help craft the laws.

Conservatives, will you ever attain the IQ necessary to realize that you've been gamed?


They don't care so long as they're stigginit.
 
2017-10-21 03:37:52 AM  
The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerk's office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day.

I find this quite hysterical given the woman lost her driver's license. So within 3 days of the election date, she has to haul herself all over the goddamned place to prove what a ballot worker already proved.

Go fark yourself Walker.
 
2017-10-21 03:41:44 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2017-10-21 04:15:39 AM  

Witty_Retort: FTFA:  On election night, Anthony was shocked to see Trump carry Wisconsin by nearly 23,000 votes. The state, which ranked second in the nation in voter participation in 2008 and 2012, saw its lowest turnout since 2000. More than half the state's decline in turnout occurred in Milwaukee, which Clinton carried by a 77-18 margin, but where almost 41,000 fewer people voted in 2016 than in 2012. Turnout fell only slightly in white middle-class areas of the city but plunged in black ones.

This is their plan. Don't let them pretend this is an accident.


Everyone likes to go on and on about white working class obama to trump voters. They're not the story.

Hillary lost rust belt states because she didn't get the inner city voting numbers she needed, and that had more to do with suppression than anything else.
 
2017-10-21 04:21:59 AM  

SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?


Pretty sure you have to have proof of ID to buy a gun, too.
 
2017-10-21 04:33:18 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?

Keep in mind voting rights is a recent concept. Before it was restricted to property owners only.  Then only white men. Then women. Then the different  shades.


Even the male shade came before the white women.
 
2017-10-21 04:40:25 AM  

Shaggy_C: SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?

Pretty sure you have to have proof of ID to buy a gun, too.


In some states, a gun license can be used for voter ID.
Maybe we can kill two birds with one stone. If we start arming the people who are being disenfranchised, they will then get ID that will allow them to vote and, since there are a lot of people who don't want to give *those people* guns (see the Mulford Act), maybe we'll finally get some good gun control laws out of it too!
 
2017-10-21 04:44:57 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.

Make voting day an actual day of fighting back.  Each polling station is alloted the number of eligible voters in the precinct or area.  Each side suits up and actually fights for their side. (Barehand only, but killing is allowed).  The side that holds the precinct at midnight gets to cast all the votes.


I'm in.

/ of course my precinct is like 95-5 Trumpers
// although possibly around 20% of our side will be high
/// we'll still kick their ass
//// Berry White is some good stuff
 
2017-10-21 04:55:19 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Make voting day an actual day of fighting back.  Each polling station is alloted the number of eligible voters in the precinct or area.  Each side suits up and actually fights for their side. (Barehand only, but killing is allowed).  The side that holds the precinct at midnight gets to cast all the votes.


I see you are familiar with 19th century urban election practices.
 
2017-10-21 04:58:06 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Also, isn't the idea of a "secret ballot" also newish?


Yep. Traditionally, voting was seen as a communal, public act, and that, if you weren't willing to state your preferences publicly perhaps you didn't have the principles necessary to be a citizen.

Obviously, it was also open to tons of abuses as well.
 
2017-10-21 06:34:39 AM  
Have to maintain Liberal Rule #1 somehow, even if it requires coming up with insane conspiracy theories.

Liberal Rule #1: People never reject liberal ideas, they either don't understand them or they were tricked.

And then your minds must make everything fit that no matter what insanity is required.
 
2017-10-21 06:48:50 AM  
Why do their drivers licenses expire? That doesn't make sense. Here in Switzerland, and most of the world, they never expire.

But you do have to start taking driving tests when you get very old in order to keep the license.
 
2017-10-21 06:59:17 AM  

randomjsa: Have to maintain Liberal Rule #1 somehow, even if it requires coming up with insane conspiracy theories.

Liberal Rule #1: People never reject liberal ideas, they either don't understand them or they were tricked.

And then your minds must make everything fit that no matter what insanity is required.


Depends.
Are we talking "liberal ideas" like marriage equality, national healthcare, "free" education and climate change?
Or the derpy "conservatives believe" liberal ideas like safe spaces and gun seizures?

Or is this just more "She lost. Get over it"? Because she *did* win the popular vote. An important distinction given that:
A) She was probably the *worst* candidate they could have run
B) Your guy's *still* trying to deny it
 
2017-10-21 07:00:09 AM  

randomjsa: Have to maintain Liberal Rule #1 somehow, even if it requires coming up with insane conspiracy theories.

Liberal Rule #1: People never reject liberal ideas, they either don't understand them or they were tricked.

And then your minds must make everything fit that no matter what insanity is required.


Even by your standards this is a pretty incoherent comment.
 
2017-10-21 07:36:29 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off?


It won't help. How many places are actually closed on federal holdiays? Government, banks, some white collar jobs, maybe some blue collar. A lot of middle and upper class jobs. What places aren't closed? Retail, restaurants, service industry, etc...

The people that such a holiday should benefit wouldn't have the benefit. Retail and restaurants would turn it into a new shopping holiday and people would go out to shop and eat - thus driving a need for employees at these industries.

You can say "well places are required to let people off to go vote.". Yes, a lot of places are required to do a lot of things. Doesn't mean you don't get a "wink wink nudge nudge" type talk from a manager.

/Thankful I can take Election Day off
 
2017-10-21 07:41:32 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.


If corporations make businesses and their employees stay open on Christmas and thanksgiving, why do you think they would let their employees off to vote directly against their company's interests?

Your idea assumes that rich businesses care about their employees. They absolutely don't.
 
2017-10-21 07:44:13 AM  

Aar1012: NewportBarGuy: Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off?

It won't help. How many places are actually closed on federal holdiays? Government, banks, some white collar jobs, maybe some blue collar. A lot of middle and upper class jobs. What places aren't closed? Retail, restaurants, service industry, etc...

The people that such a holiday should benefit wouldn't have the benefit. Retail and restaurants would turn it into a new shopping holiday and people would go out to shop and eat - thus driving a need for employees at these industries.

You can say "well places are required to let people off to go vote.". Yes, a lot of places are required to do a lot of things. Doesn't mean you don't get a "wink wink nudge nudge" type talk from a manager.

/Thankful I can take Election Day off


I work at a hotel, and we never, ever close.  But since I do get off work at 7 am, I have all kinds of time to vote.  The other front desk people either get off work at 3 pm, or start work at 3 pm.  The housekeepers.. well, they may have trouble getting away.  Voting before work should work, but some of them don't have their own cars, and have to take the bus to and from work, and walk from the bus stop.
 
2017-10-21 07:44:25 AM  

Aar1012: NewportBarGuy: Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off?

It won't help. How many places are actually closed on federal holdiays? Government, banks, some white collar jobs, maybe some blue collar. A lot of middle and upper class jobs. What places aren't closed? Retail, restaurants, service industry, etc...

The people that such a holiday should benefit wouldn't have the benefit. Retail and restaurants would turn it into a new shopping holiday and people would go out to shop and eat - thus driving a need for employees at these industries.

You can say "well places are required to let people off to go vote.". Yes, a lot of places are required to do a lot of things. Doesn't mean you don't get a "wink wink nudge nudge" type talk from a manager.

/Thankful I can take Election Day off


Thank you for posting that right before me, lol.
 
2017-10-21 07:51:21 AM  

Iczer: The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerk's office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day.

I find this quite hysterical given the woman lost her driver's license. So within 3 days of the election date, she has to haul herself all over the goddamned place to prove what a ballot worker already proved.

Go fark yourself Walker.


Not sure what you mean.  She didn't bring valid proof of ID to the polling place.
One could argue that the polling places should accept more forms of ID including expired ones.
But expired IDs are more likely to be fake.

The truth is that if you want to argue that your election hopes relied on voters who have no ID, you are farting into the wind. 
Better stop before you poop your pants.
 
2017-10-21 07:54:45 AM  

ptelg: NewportBarGuy: I think we've been talking about this for decades. The only sure way to fix this is fight and win back the states from the GOP.

Maybe make voting day for federal elections a national holiday so everyone is off? Won't help the disenfranchised, but maybe you get more independent voters who are working or unwilling to stand in line before or after work?

But I guess you'd have to win back Congress and the Presidency first.

Either way, it requires winning which is obviously much harder with this crap.

Go Aussie require everyone to vote.


That would be nice, but then you'd have the Trumpanzees and other right wingers arguing that their rights are being abridged by 'forcing' them to vote.
 
2017-10-21 07:55:42 AM  

Animatronik: Iczer: The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerk's office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day.

I find this quite hysterical given the woman lost her driver's license. So within 3 days of the election date, she has to haul herself all over the goddamned place to prove what a ballot worker already proved.

Go fark yourself Walker.

Not sure what you mean.  She didn't bring valid proof of ID to the polling place.
One could argue that the polling places should accept more forms of ID including expired ones.
But expired IDs are more likely to be fake.

The truth is that if you want to argue that your election hopes relied on voters who have no ID, you are farting into the wind. 
Better stop before you poop your pants.


Voter ID is voter suppression. Period. Unless every single voter gets a free ID that's easy and not time-consuming to update, it's suppression of the poor, who often can't afford the time/money to get an ID renewed, especially when Republicans keep closing/understaffing government offices in urban areas.

That's not even getting into the purges of the voter rolls, or the fact that a provisional ballot might as well have been tossed in the farking garbage, or even the fact that electronic voting machines are way too farking easy to hack...

Republicans cannot win on ideas. They cannot win in a fair fight. They only win by keeping as many people from voting as possible, while exploiting gerrymandering and the electoral college.
 
2017-10-21 07:56:41 AM  

Dafatone: Witty_Retort: FTFA:  On election night, Anthony was shocked to see Trump carry Wisconsin by nearly 23,000 votes. The state, which ranked second in the nation in voter participation in 2008 and 2012, saw its lowest turnout since 2000. More than half the state's decline in turnout occurred in Milwaukee, which Clinton carried by a 77-18 margin, but where almost 41,000 fewer people voted in 2016 than in 2012. Turnout fell only slightly in white middle-class areas of the city but plunged in black ones.

This is their plan. Don't let them pretend this is an accident.

Everyone likes to go on and on about white working class obama to trump voters. They're not the story.

Hillary lost rust belt states because she didn't get the inner city voting numbers she needed, and that had more to do with suppression than anything else.


But see, then you can't push the narrative that the only reason she lost was that she was a totally shiatty candidate that had no business running for President.
 
2017-10-21 08:00:06 AM  

randomjsa: Have to maintain Liberal Rule #1 somehow, even if it requires coming up with insane conspiracy theories.

Liberal Rule #1: People never reject liberal ideas, they either don't understand them or they were tricked.

And then your minds must make everything fit that no matter what insanity is required.


Trumps ideas were division, anger and xenophobia. So yes, he did quite well rallying republicans.
 
2017-10-21 08:19:34 AM  

Animatronik: Iczer: The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerk's office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day.

I find this quite hysterical given the woman lost her driver's license. So within 3 days of the election date, she has to haul herself all over the goddamned place to prove what a ballot worker already proved.

Go fark yourself Walker.

Not sure what you mean.  She didn't bring valid proof of ID to the polling place.
One could argue that the polling places should accept more forms of ID including expired ones.
But expired IDs are more likely to be fake.

The truth is that if you want to argue that your election hopes relied on voters who have no ID, you are farting into the wind. 
Better stop before you poop your pants.


This is a solution without a problem.

How many people are faking expired IDs to vote?

Why does the concept of voter participation frighten you so much? Why are you actively trying to prevent people from voting? It's one of the most Anti-American things I can think of.

If you're going to require something to vote you should make it free and exceptionally easy to acquire.
 
2017-10-21 08:23:21 AM  

Shaggy_C: SoupGuru: But seriously, owning a gun is a sacred right but voting: is that really important for freedom?

Pretty sure you have to have proof of ID to buy a gun, too.


False.
 
2017-10-21 08:25:21 AM  

The Homer Tax: Animatronik: Iczer: The poll worker gave her a provisional ballot instead. It would be counted only if she went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new ID and then to the city clerk's office to confirm her vote, all within 72 hours of Election Day.

I find this quite hysterical given the woman lost her driver's license. So within 3 days of the election date, she has to haul herself all over the goddamned place to prove what a ballot worker already proved.

Go fark yourself Walker.

Not sure what you mean.  She didn't bring valid proof of ID to the polling place.
One could argue that the polling places should accept more forms of ID including expired ones.
But expired IDs are more likely to be fake.

The truth is that if you want to argue that your election hopes relied on voters who have no ID, you are farting into the wind. 
Better stop before you poop your pants.

This is a solution without a problem.

How many people are faking expired IDs to vote?

Why does the concept of voter participation frighten you so much? Why are you actively trying to prevent people from voting? It's one of the most Anti-American things I can think of.

If you're going to require something to vote you should make it free and exceptionally easy to acquire.


But the thing is, it has nothing to do with protecting the 'integrity of the vote'.  The one and only reason to put so many roadblocks in the way of voting is to either find legal ways to disenfranchise large swathes of voters, or to intimidate them into giving up completely.

He knows that, he's just here to stir shiat up and post verbal diarrhea.
 
2017-10-21 08:26:31 AM  

comrade: Why do their drivers licenses expire? That doesn't make sense. Here in Switzerland, and most of the world, they never expire.

But you do have to start taking driving tests when you get very old in order to keep the license.


Because proposing that would kill your chances for reelection in the US.  The elderly vote.  The have nothing else to do and don't you dare take something away from them.
 
2017-10-21 08:27:22 AM  

BlazeTrailer: All 3 subjects of the article, from the same family, misplaced their licenses. Remind me to strike them from my contingency babysitter plan


this.

Not voter suppression, just regular people being retardedly absent of forethought.

Elections do not creep up on you, in fact, ads for them start months ahead of time.
 
2017-10-21 08:30:13 AM  

comrade: Why do their drivers licenses expire? That doesn't make sense. Here in Switzerland, and most of the world, they never expire.

But you do have to start taking driving tests when you get very old in order to keep the license.


Well then how do you pay all the paper pushers involved with keeping your driver's licenses up to date?  Also, which of your government offices do elected officials  steal appropriate funds for their pet projects if they need some extra cash?  There's not enough left for it all to come from "education" anymore.. .

Silly Swede...
 
2017-10-21 08:36:44 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: randomjsa: Have to maintain Liberal Rule #1 somehow, even if it requires coming up with insane conspiracy theories.

Liberal Rule #1: People never reject liberal ideas, they either don't understand them or they were tricked.

And then your minds must make everything fit that no matter what insanity is required.

Trumps ideas were division, anger and xenophobia. So yes, he did quite well rallying republicans.


Why do you think he "loves the poorly educated"?  He's, quite literally, told his base he likes them because they're stupid and easily fleeced...

So they wave russian flags, misunderstand basic english and simple concepts like hypocrisy and irony...
 
2017-10-21 08:38:24 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: Go Aussie require everyone to vote.

That would be nice, but then you'd have the Trumpanzees and other right wingers arguing that their rights are being abridged by 'forcing' them to vote.


Big gubbmint is forcing you to vote! Don't let them do that to you! Descent is the highest form of patriotic! So stay home! You can have my vote when you peel it from my cold dead hands!
 
2017-10-21 08:40:37 AM  

Dbtucky: BlazeTrailer: All 3 subjects of the article, from the same family, misplaced their licenses. Remind me to strike them from my contingency babysitter plan

this.

Not voter suppression, just regular people being retardedly absent of forethought.

Elections do not creep up on you, in fact, ads for them start months ahead of time.


You know, all it used to take to cast a vote was to verify your information at the polling place, and to show your voter registration card.  Why should an ID be needed when fraud of that type (that is, voting with another person's identity) is so small that's the chance of it happening is almost 0%?

Nah, better to demand more and more evidence to prove that you are who you say you are (and make the items that can do so get smaller & smaller).
 
2017-10-21 08:41:15 AM  

loser0: AurizenDarkstar: Go Aussie require everyone to vote.

That would be nice, but then you'd have the Trumpanzees and other right wingers arguing that their rights are being abridged by 'forcing' them to vote.

Big gubbmint is forcing you to vote! Don't let them do that to you! Descent is the highest form of patriotic! So stay home! You can have my vote when you peel it from my cold dead hands!


I know you're joking, but that's the actual argument I've heard some more extreme right wingers actually make.
 
2017-10-21 08:57:41 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: I know you're joking, but that's the actual argument I've heard some more extreme right wingers actually make.


As long as it keeps the loons home, I'm fine with it. The problem is when they convince the non-loons to stay home....
 
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