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2017-10-20 06:52:34 AM  
Lol wow if my Yankees win they would actually be the team with the lower payroll in the world series. Awesome

Go Yanks!!!
 
2017-10-20 07:18:56 AM  
Is Dodgers-Yankees the karmic price we have to pay for getting Cubs-Indians last year?

On the other hand, an Astros-Dodgers Series would give me a moment of confusion anytime it's mentioned. "How the hell are two National League teams in the... Oh, right."
 
2017-10-20 07:24:12 AM  
An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.
 
2017-10-20 07:30:41 AM  
yeah, but to be fair half of that is probably the darren dreifort contract.
 
2017-10-20 07:52:05 AM  

Lost Thought 00: An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.


http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/la/​h​istory/postseason_results.jsp

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/hi​s​tory/postseason_results.jsp

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/extras​/​payrolls/
 
2017-10-20 08:04:24 AM  
in '03 I was infuriated when the Cubs lost in the NLCS when the whole Game 6 8th Inning and then the complete pitching meltdown in Game 7 happened

this year, basically the Cubs chances to win the NLCS went out the window when Turner hit the walkoff in Game 2; that verve that the Royals had in '15 and the Cubs had in '16 is clearly with the Dodgers now.

so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.
 
2017-10-20 08:13:22 AM  

BlueDWarrior: so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.


The one - and ONLY one - saving grace if we get the Douchiest Fanbase In The Universe's team in the World Series is that we're gonna see Roberts' steal about two hundred times and mentioned a thousand more. (And NO, that does not mean that I want that whatsoever.)

\and if you don't believe me, talk to a Yankees fan from the Providence area
\\contrarian self-important shiatheel dicks who (a) think Providence is a NYC suburb, and (b) wouldn't know John Wetteland or Dave LaPoint if they threw a fastball right in their nuts
 
2017-10-20 08:33:24 AM  
Yeah, I'm shedding a tear for a $200M team.

The Cubs are the NL Red Sox.
 
2017-10-20 08:35:44 AM  

FriarReb98: BlueDWarrior: so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.

The one - and ONLY one - saving grace if we get the Douchiest Fanbase In The Universe's team in the World Series is that we're gonna see Roberts' steal about two hundred times and mentioned a thousand more. (And NO, that does not mean that I want that whatsoever.)

\and if you don't believe me, talk to a Yankees fan from the Providence area
\\contrarian self-important shiatheel dicks who (a) think Providence is a NYC suburb, and (b) wouldn't know John Wetteland or Dave LaPoint if they threw a fastball right in their nuts


I dunno, I would say that an LAD/NYY WS would be  maximum overdouche when it came to WS Matchups, but that'd really be STL/NYY; most Dodger fans don't score as high on the douche factor as compared to [bandwagon of the year] or Yankee fans.
 
2017-10-20 08:36:53 AM  
Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what d'ya say.
Cubs' vacation starts today.
 
2017-10-20 08:39:58 AM  

This text is now purple: Yeah, I'm shedding a tear for a $200M team.

The Cubs are the NL Red Sox.


Which is the whole point; they're a big market team that's always spent money in interesting and confoundingly stupid ways which meant they always underperformed. And that had been the book on the Dodgers the last 15 years: spend a shiatton of money in stupid fashion and look shocked when all you can manage is a division title.

We will see if Roberts can captain this star destroyer to the championship, otherwise people will really look at the franchise cross-eyed.
 
2017-10-20 08:40:56 AM  

tommyl66: Is Dodgers-Yankees the karmic price we have to pay for getting Cubs-Indians last year?


Amazingly, we haven't had a Dodgers-Yankees World Series in thirty-six years.
 
2017-10-20 08:52:55 AM  

tommyl66: Is Dodgers-Yankees the karmic price we have to pay for getting Cubs-Indians last year?


Dodgers haven't been in it in 29 years. Now, if this were GIANTS-Yankees, it'd be a karmic price. Either 4th World Series in a decade (yawn) or having to listen to bandwagon douchers come out of the woodwork yapping about 28 rings for the next eternity.
 
2017-10-20 08:57:40 AM  
I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.
 
2017-10-20 09:08:17 AM  

robbrie: Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what d'ya say.
Cubs' vacation starts today.


Top 4 in the game.  I will take it.
 
2017-10-20 09:16:32 AM  

bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night

ever if you have to.
 
2017-10-20 09:20:50 AM  
Good.

fark the Cubs. They used up all the luck in the world last year. Plus, they lost that "loveable loser" status, so fark them.
 
2017-10-20 09:32:34 AM  
Wahhh my owne only spent $150 million! It's not fair!
 
2017-10-20 09:36:45 AM  

FriarReb98: BlueDWarrior: so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.

The one - and ONLY one - saving grace if we get the Douchiest Fanbase In The Universe's team in the World Series is that we're gonna see Roberts' steal about two hundred times and mentioned a thousand more. (And NO, that does not mean that I want that whatsoever.)

\and if you don't believe me, talk to a Yankees fan from the Providence area
\\contrarian self-important shiatheel dicks who (a) think Providence is a NYC suburb, and (b) wouldn't know John Wetteland or Dave LaPoint if they threw a fastball right in their nuts


Boston has already been eliminated.
 
2017-10-20 09:41:33 AM  

bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.


Seconded. Call for a vote and a Change.org petition.
 
2017-10-20 09:48:10 AM  

Lost Thought 00: An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.


Can I just watch a baseball game without listening to the empty headed Neo Marxist rhetoric?
 
2017-10-20 09:50:53 AM  

This text is now purple: Yeah, I'm shedding a tear for a $200M team.

The Cubs are the NL Red Sox.


87m retained for the Muts?  That is bigger than the lowest two teams total.
 
2017-10-20 09:57:29 AM  

mjbok: FriarReb98: BlueDWarrior: so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.

The one - and ONLY one - saving grace if we get the Douchiest Fanbase In The Universe's team in the World Series is that we're gonna see Roberts' steal about two hundred times and mentioned a thousand more. (And NO, that does not mean that I want that whatsoever.)

\and if you don't believe me, talk to a Yankees fan from the Providence area
\\contrarian self-important shiatheel dicks who (a) think Providence is a NYC suburb, and (b) wouldn't know John Wetteland or Dave LaPoint if they threw a fastball right in their nuts

Boston has already been eliminated.


Again, come to RI and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
 
2017-10-20 09:59:27 AM  

Frank N Stein: Lost Thought 00: An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.

Can I just watch a baseball game without listening to the empty headed Neo Marxist rhetoric?


yes. if you shut the fark up and just watch a baseball game, asshole.
 
2017-10-20 10:06:04 AM  
That is a bargain if they finally win a world series again.
 
2017-10-20 10:06:04 AM  

MNguy: Frank N Stein: Lost Thought 00: An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.

Can I just watch a baseball game without listening to the empty headed Neo Marxist rhetoric?

yes. if you shut the fark up and just watch a baseball game, asshole.


But, but, but, those players are in a UNION!!! So unamerican...
 
2017-10-20 10:08:31 AM  

Frank N Stein: Lost Thought 00: An accurate reflection of the American Values people claim baseball embodies. The rich win and everyone else never even had a chance from the outset. Now pay 200 dollars to park and cheer on the aristocracy, peasent.

Can I just watch a baseball game without listening to the empty headed Neo Marxist rhetoric?


Not on fark.
 
2017-10-20 10:13:22 AM  

This text is now purple: Yeah, I'm shedding a tear for a $200M team.

The Cubs are the NL Red Sox.


There's some amazing stuff in there when you think of it.

The Rays and Brewers are down toward the bottom of the payroll list, but both put up a good showing in the standings as related to payroll.  Meanwhile, the Tigers, Giants & Blue Jays are just pissing away money.
 
2017-10-20 10:14:49 AM  

bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.


I've been advocating this for years.  With the Dodgers in, it would be extra sweet.  e-mail your local fox affiliate, and cc it nationally.  Also, use twitter- tweet that thought out there, it'll get retweeted endlessly.  Everyone wants this.
 
2017-10-20 10:46:56 AM  
A lot of that is dead money spent on people like Carl Crawford and Alex Guerrero who are no longer with the team but had guaranteed contracts.  Some of their best players (Bellinger, Taylor, Seager, Barnes, Hernandez (who hit the three home runs last night), Morrow) make the league minimum because they are rookies or second year players.

Now, of course Kershaw makes a ton.  Of course Jansen makes a ton.  And, yes, they have a high payroll overall.  But they want to win and have a giant TV contract (and league highest home attendance) that allows them to put together what hopefully will be a World Series winning team.
 
2017-10-20 10:51:14 AM  

bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.


Vin is happily retired.  The Dodgers threw tons of money his way to try to get him to continue announcing.  He declined, and the settled on renaming everything after him.  He has absolutely no interest in un-retiring.
 
2017-10-20 10:52:30 AM  

Geotpf: A lot of that is dead money spent on people like Carl Crawford and Alex Guerrero who are no longer with the team but had guaranteed contracts.  Some of their best players (Bellinger, Taylor, Seager, Barnes, Hernandez (who hit the three home runs last night), Morrow) make the league minimum because they are rookies or second year players.

Now, of course Kershaw makes a ton.  Of course Jansen makes a ton.  And, yes, they have a high payroll overall.  But they want to win and have a giant TV contract (and league highest home attendance) that allows them to put together what hopefully will be a World Series winning team.


No, no, spending money on labor and having good outcomes is TERRIBLE!

What we WANT to honor is when labor is producing beyond what they're paid, and employers are reaping lots of extra profit. THAT'S what sports are about!
 
2017-10-20 10:53:41 AM  

robbrie: Go Cubs Go!
Go Cubs Go!
Hey Chicago, what d'ya say.
Cubs' vacation starts today.


And the Chicago Grant Park groundskeepers breathe a sigh of tremendous relief.
 
2017-10-20 10:53:43 AM  

This text is now purple: Yeah, I'm shedding a tear for a $200M team.

The Cubs are the NL Red Sox.


Huh. 14 teams with payrolls above the league average, and only 5 of them were among the 10 playoff teams. The team with the smallest payroll ended up with the 10th best record in baseball, only one game out of the second NL wild card spot? It's almost like the size of a team's payroll is only one factor into how successful they are on the field.
 
2017-10-20 10:55:28 AM  

Geotpf: bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.

Vin is happily retired.  The Dodgers threw tons of money his way to try to get him to continue announcing.  He declined, and the settled on renaming everything after him.  He has absolutely no interest in un-retiring.


I'd say let him be in the booth and maybe take an inning or two, maybe just talk with him during the game...but at this point I don't want to have it be oversold and have a bunch of people thinking "that guy wasn't any good, why's he so hyped?"

Kinda like Jordan coming back after his second retirement. If you saw him play then, you'd be like "eh, he's OK, I guess. Can't believe people think he's the best ever." I suspect Vin's not where he once was, as should be expected with aging.
 
2017-10-20 11:01:30 AM  
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2017-10-20 11:11:16 AM  
The crazy thing is how much of that payroll was wasted. Adrian Gonzalez, $21M, played less than half the season and was ineffective; Scott Kazmir, $16M, didn't pitch; Andre Ethier, $17M, barely played; Brandon McCarthy, $16M, pitched about half the season.

That, of course, illustrates how ridiculous this all is. Just about any other franchise would be devastated by that; with the Dodgers it's like "meh, we can carry all that (and Kershaw) and still extend Justin Turner and Rich Hill and Kenley Jansen for about $16M each, and also trade for Yu and Granderson, no problemo."
 
2017-10-20 11:12:26 AM  

Geotpf: A lot of that is dead money spent on people like Carl Crawford and Alex Guerrero who are no longer with the team but had guaranteed contracts.  Some of their best players (Bellinger, Taylor, Seager, Barnes, Hernandez (who hit the three home runs last night), Morrow) make the league minimum because they are rookies or second year players.

Now, of course Kershaw makes a ton.  Of course Jansen makes a ton.  And, yes, they have a high payroll overall.  But they want to win and have a giant TV contract (and league highest home attendance) that allows them to put together what hopefully will be a World Series winning team.


For a team who gets ragged on for spending a ton of money, the Dodgers also draft well (Kershaw, Pederson, Seager, Bellinger), sign good foreign FAs (Jansen, Puig), and turn other teams' castoffs into stars (Turner, Wood, Hill, and it's looking good for Culberson and Taylor).

As a Cubs fan, this series pretty much sucked, but as a baseball fan who watched Sutton, Valenzuela and Hershiser pitch in October, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch Kershaw take the mound for game one in Chavez Ravine.
 
2017-10-20 11:14:17 AM  

IAmRight:  I suspect Vin's not where he once was, as should be expected with aging.


His stories at the end were a bit more rambling than usual, although he kept track of the count and the score and the like fine, and hearing even a rambling story told in Vin's soothing voice was still nice.  But I would not be surprised if he knows his mind is slowly going and has no interest having it happen in front of millions of TV viewers.  (Note that I have no proof that this is really the case, but it would fit with the circumstances.)
 
2017-10-20 11:22:28 AM  

BlueDWarrior: FriarReb98:
I dunno, I would say that an LAD/NYY WS would be  maximum overdouche when it came to WS Matchups, but that'd really be STL/NYY;


What do you have against the best fans in baseball?
 
2017-10-20 11:27:48 AM  

bluorangefyre: I move for Vin Scully to call one last game.  On Fox.  Remove Joe Buck for a night if you have to.


Or all nights.
 
2017-10-20 12:47:32 PM  
Is this the thread where we tell everyone Aaron Judge is getting paid $544,500 this year?
 
2017-10-20 01:00:22 PM  

mainstreet62: Is this the thread where we tell everyone Aaron Judge is getting paid $544,500 this year?


He's a rookie.  All rookies get paid the same; league minimum.
 
2017-10-20 01:16:54 PM  

Trainspotr: As a Cubs fan, this series pretty much sucked, but as a baseball fan who watched Sutton, Valenzuela and Hershiser pitch in October, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch Kershaw take the mound for game one in Chavez Ravine.


I want to see Houston in the series partly to see Verlander against Kershaw.

For all the shiat Verlander gets about his pitching in the WS, he's been a vastly better playoff pitcher than Kershaw has been.
 
2017-10-20 01:33:13 PM  

This text is now purple: Trainspotr: As a Cubs fan, this series pretty much sucked, but as a baseball fan who watched Sutton, Valenzuela and Hershiser pitch in October, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch Kershaw take the mound for game one in Chavez Ravine.

I want to see Houston in the series partly to see Verlander against Kershaw.

For all the shiat Verlander gets about his pitching in the WS, he's been a vastly better playoff pitcher than Kershaw has been.


Kershaw's main problem in the post season in the past has been overuse due to a weak bullpen/secondary starters.  That's no longer a problem, and his outing last night (one run, three hits, one walk, five strikeouts over six innings) reflected this.
 
2017-10-20 01:39:28 PM  

This text is now purple: Trainspotr: As a Cubs fan, this series pretty much sucked, but as a baseball fan who watched Sutton, Valenzuela and Hershiser pitch in October, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch Kershaw take the mound for game one in Chavez Ravine.

I want to see Houston in the series partly to see Verlander against Kershaw.

For all the shiat Verlander gets about his pitching in the WS, he's been a vastly better playoff pitcher than Kershaw has been.


I don't have a horse in this race, but I'd like to see Houston advance and then win, if only to see Beltran finally get a ring.
 
2017-10-20 01:42:10 PM  

Geotpf: This text is now purple: Trainspotr: As a Cubs fan, this series pretty much sucked, but as a baseball fan who watched Sutton, Valenzuela and Hershiser pitch in October, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch Kershaw take the mound for game one in Chavez Ravine.

I want to see Houston in the series partly to see Verlander against Kershaw.

For all the shiat Verlander gets about his pitching in the WS, he's been a vastly better playoff pitcher than Kershaw has been.

Kershaw's main problem in the post season in the past has been overuse due to a weak bullpen/secondary starters.  That's no longer a problem, and his outing last night (one run, three hits, one walk, five strikeouts over six innings) reflected this.


He also had fewer IP in the regular season overall.
 
2017-10-20 02:15:58 PM  
Here's to 107 more losing years, Cubs.
 
2017-10-20 02:41:15 PM  

FriarReb98: mjbok: FriarReb98: BlueDWarrior: so we will see if Roberts can stop the rise of the second Evil Empire, or scrub the launch of the A(L)stros.

The one - and ONLY one - saving grace if we get the Douchiest Fanbase In The Universe's team in the World Series is that we're gonna see Roberts' steal about two hundred times and mentioned a thousand more. (And NO, that does not mean that I want that whatsoever.)

\and if you don't believe me, talk to a Yankees fan from the Providence area
\\contrarian self-important shiatheel dicks who (a) think Providence is a NYC suburb, and (b) wouldn't know John Wetteland or Dave LaPoint if they threw a fastball right in their nuts

Boston has already been eliminated.

Again, come to RI and you'll understand where I'm coming from.


I remember when JW was with the Expos.
 
2017-10-20 02:41:58 PM  
Also the 92/93 Blow Jays had the highest payroll as well.
 
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