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(Some Guy)   In Pakistan, you can sell clothes with Hitler's name on it because the average Pakistani doesn't know who Hitler was   ( theoutline.com) divider line
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2017-10-12 02:23:41 PM  
Do they even know who the U.S. President is?
 
2017-10-12 02:35:30 PM  
What a terrible, TERRIBLE, website.  Was that a blog?  Why is it so long?
 
2017-10-12 02:36:20 PM  
But I bet they know who Hitlar is...
 
2017-10-12 03:12:57 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-10-12 04:03:49 PM  
When I was on a cruise the waitress tried to give my sons a Nazi Iron Cross necklace. She had no idea what it was. It was just a shiny plastic cross to her.
 
Juc
2017-10-12 04:22:30 PM  
Does the average westerner know who Pol Pot was either?
Why would they even care?
 
2017-10-12 04:24:58 PM  
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2017-10-12 04:29:19 PM  
If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.
 
2017-10-12 04:29:33 PM  
[john_oliver_thailand_hitler_rip_taylor.mp4]
 
2017-10-12 04:32:07 PM  

Juc: Does the average westerner know who Pol Pot was either?
Why would they even care?


I only buy Pol Pot brand business attire. Really makes me feel productive... or else.
 
2017-10-12 04:32:19 PM  
Pffffffffffffft.
That's old hat
img.fark.net

 img.fark.net
 
2017-10-12 04:32:26 PM  
Pakistan is filled with rational & intelligent people who would never get upset if something similar happened in another country, and someone they considered to be a monster, was being used in such a haphazard way to sell things.
 
2017-10-12 04:32:28 PM  
Neither do Americans seeing how many voted for the Nazis or are just fine with them roaming the streets.

/very fine people indeed
 
2017-10-12 04:32:46 PM  

EvilEgg: When I was on a cruise the waitress tried to give my sons a Nazi Iron Cross necklace. She had no idea what it was. It was just a shiny plastic cross to her.


Germany still uses the iron cross as their military symbol and still awards the medal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunde​swehr_Cross_of_Honour_for_Valour​

It's only a Nazi symbol when it has a swastika in the middle - otherwise it's just the German military.
 
2017-10-12 04:34:13 PM  
Hitler Science Theater 3000
Youtube cJLepZMZf2g
 
2017-10-12 04:34:37 PM  
Hey, Ahmed.  What does this Hitler shirt say?
Uh, it says "Allah be goin' to Heaven!"
Cool.  Give me three of 'em.
 
2017-10-12 04:34:42 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-10-12 04:35:33 PM  
Subby probably owns or manages this carp site.

Just click-bait title
 
2017-10-12 04:36:29 PM  
Trevor Noah had a childhood friend named Hitler:

"For many black South Africans, the story of the war was that there was someone called Hitler and he was the reason the Allies were losing the war. This Hitler was so powerful that at some point black people had to go help white people fight against him. ... so if you want your kid to be tough, you name your kid Hitler."

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainme​nt/books/article113697574.html#s​torylink=cpy
 
2017-10-12 04:37:35 PM  
Why would someone buy it if they don't know who he is? Do you even brand, bro?
 
2017-10-12 04:37:43 PM  
Asia, the Japanese War was the main theatre and the European conflict something that happened to be going on a the same time that was great because it weakened the European powers and set the stage for  de-colonialization.

For them, the differences between Jews and Christians are remote, abstract and not part of their cultural history.
 
2017-10-12 04:38:42 PM  
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2017-10-12 04:38:45 PM  

lake_huron: Trevor Noah had a childhood friend named Hitler:

"For many black South Africans, the story of the war was that there was someone called Hitler and he was the reason the Allies were losing the war. This Hitler was so powerful that at some point black people had to go help white people fight against him. ... so if you want your kid to be tough, you name your kid Hitler."

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/books/article113697574.html#s​torylink=cpy


img.fark.net

"My name is HITLER, how do you-", wait, nothing rhymes with "Hitler".
 
2017-10-12 04:39:26 PM  

doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.


Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.
 
2017-10-12 04:41:46 PM  

hissatsu: Juc: Does the average westerner know who Pol Pot was either?
Why would they even care?

I only buy Pol Pot brand business attire. Really makes me feel productive... or else.


He invented the bong.  He wanted to call it the Pol Pot Pot but Popiel had Pot Pot trademarked.  So the trademark people gave him until 4 pm to come up with a new name.  He tried but he couldn't.  He was just about to admit defeat and give up.  He went over to the guy and said "This device to smoke with.  I've decided...  and at that very moment, someone rang a giant metal musical percussion instrument so the trademark guy put down "Bong".  Sold the whole concept to Tommy Chong who turned out to be a shrewd businessman.  Pumped all the profits back in to R&D and Pol got caught in the net instead of gross.

Pretty much the reason he slaughtered a third of his countrymen.

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2017-10-12 04:43:14 PM  

lake_huron: Trevor Noah had a childhood friend named Hitler:

"For many black South Africans, the story of the war was that there was someone called Hitler and he was the reason the Allies were losing the war. This Hitler was so powerful that at some point black people had to go help white people fight against him. ... so if you want your kid to be tough, you name your kid Hitler."

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainme​nt/books/article113697574.html#s​torylink=cpy


Came in to say this. There's a whole chapter in his memoir, Born a Crime, about it (which is very funny). No one really knew who Hitler was partly because no one in the country thought to educate their non-white people and partly because no one they knew had anything to do with World War II. We are extremely self-regarding; there's absolutely no reason why an average Pakistani should really know who he was. What do you know about Pakistani history? Do you know millions were killed after Britain partitioned their country? No?

Noah says, if anybody, Cecil Rhoades might be considered the most evil man in modern history by many South Africans.
 
2017-10-12 04:43:16 PM  

EvilEgg: When I was on a cruise the waitress tried to give my sons a Nazi Iron Cross necklace. She had no idea what it was. It was just a shiny plastic cross to her.


Ehhrmagherrd, I didn't realize I was supporting the annihilation of a nation of people when I was dropping in and catching mad air off the spine as a wee grommet, bra.. www.basementskate.com.au
 
2017-10-12 04:45:12 PM  
"When I asked him whether he knew about Hitler's legacy as a sadistic psychopath responsible for the murder of six million Jews, he said he knew Hitler was against Jews but not much else. "I don't really like Jews," he added as an afterthought. When I pressed him about why, he gave the usual anti-Zionist, pro-Palestine line echoed by most in this part of the world. An ardent Nazi, though, he was not. "

Except of course the pro-Palestinians who were LITERAL NAZIS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini#The_Holocaust
 
2017-10-12 04:45:23 PM  

lucksi: Neither do Americans seeing how many voted for the Nazis or are just fine with them roaming the streets.

/very fine people indeed


location: Germany

*snert*

static.independent.co.uk
 
2017-10-12 04:47:58 PM  
The article explained the phenomenon pretty effectively: It's Pakistan: there are feelings concerning Jews there that might explain Hitler's popularity.
 
2017-10-12 04:49:18 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.

Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.


It will become less prominant, but I do think you are overstating the speed and impact for a number of reasons.

1) Modern and contemporary media make the war much more relevant to new generations than older wars.
2) It is the most recent "great war" and arguably the most significant in modern history for many countries.
3) There is a pretty clear, and objective, black and white narrative to follow which is unlikely to change. Yes, the grey areas for the Allies may become more broadly acknowledged and known but they will still be the good guys compared to the Nazis.  Pretty much no major historical war fits this, even Napoleon was often viewed as spreading freedom and the ideas of the French Revolution by broad swathes of Europe.
4) Other historical wars from earlier periods still have a huge impact, such as the American Civil War.

In the end I don't see the memory of WWII in the West fading for a long time unless there is another major global war to replace it in prominence.
 
2017-10-12 04:53:19 PM  
Because of the metric system?
 
2017-10-12 04:53:34 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.

Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.


Same about Julius Caesar. The man led a campaign that killed or enslaved two thirds of Gaul, and we only remember he got stabbed because of Shakespeare.
 
2017-10-12 04:55:11 PM  

abhorrent1: Why would someone buy it if they don't know who he is? Do you even brand, bro?


Do you know who General Gao was?

Neither do I, but I love his chicken.

/I'm assuming General Gao was worse than Hitler
 
2017-10-12 04:57:21 PM  

wildcardjack: To The Escape Zeppelin!: doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.

Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.

Same about Julius Caesar. The man led a campaign that killed or enslaved two thirds of Gaul, and we only remember he got stabbed because of Shakespeare.


And the salad.
 
2017-10-12 05:01:31 PM  
I think the real question is:

Why would you want to sell Hitler-themed merchandise to Pakistanis?

"Hey, Joe.  Watch this. He won't even know the difference!"
 
2017-10-12 05:05:43 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2017-10-12 05:08:05 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.

Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.


I agree, history has become so condensed. For example, take something even more recent than the 30 year war and 29 times deadlier than Hitler, and no one remembers...  1918- 1919, Spanish influenza, 500 million worldwide, in one year... seems like no one remembers.

/Pepperidge farms remembers.
//I know that Hitler and a virus are not the same
///but they kinda are.
 
2017-10-12 05:11:40 PM  
And right next door, in India, there's lots of swastikas all over the place!
 
2017-10-12 05:12:50 PM  

secondpsych: To The Escape Zeppelin!: doosh: If history is any indication in another hundred years Hitler will be just another Napoleon or Nero, fit for tchotchkes and theme park rides.

People forget, and stop caring.

Yep, and WWII was withing living memory. In another 50 years everybody born before 1945 will be dead. A century after that and WWII will be a few pages in high school text books. A century after that and it will be a few sentences. For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead? One of the most terrible moments in European history and most people have never heard of it because it happened a long time ago.

I agree, history has become so condensed. For example, take something even more recent than the 30 year war and 29 times deadlier than Hitler, and no one remembers...  1918- 1919, Spanish influenza, 500 million worldwide, in one year... seems like no one remembers.

/Pepperidge farms remembers.
//I know that Hitler and a virus are not the same
///but they kinda are.


20 -50 million dead, media.tenor.com my bad. 500 mil infected.
 
2017-10-12 05:13:19 PM  
They should at least know Hitler and world war II if only for the fact that their country was born in the aftermath.  They should be teaching lessons about the cause of the British empire collapse.

Oh who am I kidding.  Allah just gifted them the land, of course!
 
2017-10-12 05:15:27 PM  
Whar Weedlord Boner Hitler? Whar?
 
2017-10-12 05:17:58 PM  

johnny_vegas: lucksi: Neither do Americans seeing how many voted for the Nazis or are just fine with them roaming the streets.

/very fine people indeed

location: Germany

*snert*

[static.independent.co.uk image 850x605]


You just had to putsch that out there didn't you?
 
2017-10-12 05:21:24 PM  

The Yattering: I think the real question is:

Why would you want to sell Hitler-themed merchandise to Pakistanis?

"Hey, Joe.  Watch this. He won't even know the difference!"


Right. This doesn't add up. If people don't know who Hitler was, what would be the point of using it as a brand? You'd do just as well using "Williams" or "Snodgrass".

As others have mentioned, and TFA itself admits, people know who he was but they just don't care.

/Fun fact... in Indonesia, "Mein Kampf" sells very well and you'll see a lot of people wearing t-shirts with the Nazi version of the swastika and "Deutschland" across the front. They know damn well what it means.
 
2017-10-12 05:36:55 PM  

Thingster: EvilEgg: When I was on a cruise the waitress tried to give my sons a Nazi Iron Cross necklace. She had no idea what it was. It was just a shiny plastic cross to her.

Germany still uses the iron cross as their military symbol and still awards the medal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr_Cross_of_Honour_for_Valour

It's only a Nazi symbol when it has a swastika in the middle - otherwise it's just the German military.


It's also definitely not iron. That looks like bronze painted plastic that came out of a gumball machine.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-10-12 05:39:10 PM  
To The Escape Zeppelin!: For comparison, how much does the average person think about the 30 Years War that decimated Europe and left 8 million people dead?

I think about it sometimes because it's the traditional last question in the "world's easiest quiz" which begins "how long did the 100 years war last?" And because I was listening to this today. But you're right, it's obscure in the United States at least.
 
2017-10-12 05:41:55 PM  
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2017-10-12 05:44:34 PM  

Juc: Does the average westerner know who Pol Pot was either?
Why would they even care?


It's the thing you use on the stove to cook Pol, right?
 
2017-10-12 06:10:49 PM  
Sorry if this was already posted but I can't have images on at work

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-12 06:16:11 PM  

solve4x: They should at least know Hitler and world war II if only for the fact that their country was born in the aftermath.  They should be teaching lessons about the cause of the British empire collapse.

Oh who am I kidding.  Allah just gifted them the land, of course!


Indian independence (note "India" in this post is referring to pre-partition British India) was well on its way before WWII. At best WWII sped it up by a few years, at worst it delayed it a few years.

And in terms of WWII, the CBI theatre was far more important to India, where their country was invaded and the bulk of the British Indian Army fought. The far off fighting in Europe and North Africa was much less significant to the country.
 
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