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(Yahoo)   Dan Brown says that God will be replaced by "collective consciousness"...as foretold by the prophecy that he created in his own book that he just happens to have just completed   ( yahoo.com) divider line
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2017-10-12 08:45:22 AM  
...and that you just advertised for him on Fark. Hope you got a commission.
 
2017-10-12 09:02:37 AM  
Well, that's the only way it can figure out how to reverse entropy.
 
2017-10-12 09:23:34 AM  
Um.... That's Mysticism 101.
 
2017-10-12 09:45:09 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Um.... That's Mysticism 101.


Nah, that's just Dan Brown promoting his newest book.  A mish-mash of unreadable pap with short chapters that usually end with mini-cliffhangers.  I really think Dan should take a flying leap at a rolling doughnut.  But that is just me and he will probably land on the bestseller lists for the next week or so.  Of course if two million people do a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing.
 
2017-10-12 09:49:48 AM  
Da Vinci Code sucked. Just sayin'.
 
2017-10-12 11:10:17 AM  
Asimov did it in a short story 60 years ago, asshole.
 
2017-10-12 11:11:09 AM  

UberDave: Well, that's the only way it can figure out how to reverse entropy.


And UberDave beat me to it...
 
2017-10-12 11:22:18 AM  
The second half of his books could be printed with lorem ipsum and no one would notice.
 
2017-10-12 11:24:34 AM  
I like my consciousness. I don't really care to share it with anyone.
 
2017-10-12 11:26:26 AM  

toejam: I like my consciousness. I don't really care to share it with anyone.


you just did O_o
 
2017-10-12 11:26:34 AM  

bdub77: Asimov did it in a short story 60 years ago, asshole.


Julian May has a series on it.

images.gr-assets.com
 
2017-10-12 11:26:46 AM  
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
 
2017-10-12 11:28:10 AM  

jwa007: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Um.... That's Mysticism 101.

Of course if two million people do a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing.


What does that have to do with religion?
 
2017-10-12 11:28:18 AM  
Our purpose is to design a machine intelligence that will be smart enough to in-turn create an entity that is powerful enough to slip the bounds of time.  That entity then will effectively be god, able to go back and create the universe.  So in the end, we create the Big Bang.
 
2017-10-12 11:33:03 AM  
Promoting a new-age mysticism as a way to sell novels made L. Ron Hubbard a wealthy man, so why not give it a try?
 
2017-10-12 11:34:43 AM  
Like the Borg?
 
2017-10-12 11:35:55 AM  
More like the collective subconscious.

The more That is in your conscious the farther you are removed.

God is not He who is.

God is That which is.
 
2017-10-12 11:41:47 AM  

jwa007: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Um.... That's Mysticism 101.

Nah, that's just Dan Brown promoting his newest book.  A mish-mash of unreadable pap with short chapters that usually end with mini-cliffhangers.  I really think Dan should take a flying leap at a rolling doughnut.  But that is just me and he will probably land on the bestseller lists for the next week or so.  Of course if two million people do a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing.


How many people voted for Trump again?
 
2017-10-12 11:41:49 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Um.... That's Mysticism 101.


Yup. Teilhard de Chardin had his idea of the Omega Point, a state of universal consciousness. This idea is certainly nothing new, especially not from Dan Brown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin
 
2017-10-12 11:42:06 AM  
Couldn't be any worse than what we have now.
 
2017-10-12 11:43:43 AM  

jwa007: Nah, that's just Dan Brown promoting his newest book. A mish-mash of unreadable pap with short chapters that usually end with mini-cliffhangers.


This. I also hate when writers end each chapter with a character saying something that is supposed to be profound.
 
2017-10-12 11:44:43 AM  
jwa007:

Dan should take a flying leap at a rolling doughnut.  But that is just me

No.

No, that's a lot of us.
 
2017-10-12 11:45:59 AM  
It's all part of the cosmic unconsciousness
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2017-10-12 11:52:00 AM  

Mugato: Like the Borg?


But, I don't want my ass laminated!
 
2017-10-12 11:56:44 AM  
My robots in Stellaris are getting a kick...
 
2017-10-12 11:59:19 AM  

bikerbob59: Couldn't be any worse than what we have now.


Never underestimate how bad things could be.
 
2017-10-12 12:00:37 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Da Vinci Code sucked. Just sayin'.


Jesus, this.
 
2017-10-12 12:07:08 PM  
This from a guy who wrote about the Shroud of Turin being used as a parachute.
 
2017-10-12 12:12:57 PM  

bdub77: Asimov did it in a short story 60 years ago, asshole.


Considering Robert Anson Wilson pretty much cribbed "The Earth Will Shake" from "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (RAW included footnotes) decades before the "daVinci Code", I suspect he is basing things off of more recent work.
 
2017-10-12 12:14:46 PM  
I think the collective human consciousness is too hung over right now to accomplish anything of value these days.   Maybe God could pick up a few extra shifts, if he could use the extra money or something like that.
 
2017-10-12 12:16:22 PM  

jwa007: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Um.... That's Mysticism 101.

Nah, that's just Dan Brown promoting his newest book.  A mish-mash of unreadable pap with short chapters that usually end with mini-cliffhangers.  I really think Dan should take a flying leap at a rolling doughnut.  But that is just me and he will probably land on the bestseller lists for the next week or so.  Of course if two million people do a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing.


Sure his stuff isn't Proust or Joyce. It's bubblegum for the brain but that is OK to have once in a while. We have people here on Fark who piss and moan about how horrible and lowbrow today's movies are, ripping in to Star Wars/Star Trek/Marvel/Harry Potter, etc yet I'd bet that they would chose Thor:Ragnarok over an Ingmar Bergman film fest.

My daily commute is 1-1/2 hours one way so I listen to a lot of audio books. I have listened to non-fiction (primarily about science or history but also some biographies) and have also dipped back into some classics (just went through a monster phase, listened to Frankenstein, Dracula,Wells' Invisible Man,Lovecraft and more). But sometimes I grab an old Clancy or Cussler just to give my brain a break while I do my damnedest to not give in to road rage.
 
2017-10-12 12:17:50 PM  
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2017-10-12 12:27:02 PM  
God has already been replaced by Fundamentalist groupthink.
 
2017-10-12 12:27:48 PM  
I thought associating yourself as something you're not is the current fad...
 
2017-10-12 12:29:06 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Voiceofreason01: Da Vinci Code sucked. Just sayin'.

Jesus, this.


"Deception Point" - Meh
"Digital Fortress" - Garbage
"Angels & Demons" - Good
"The Davinci Code" - Good
"The Lost Symbol" - Meh
"Inferno" - So bad I wanted to set myself on fire.
"Origin" - I can't bring myself to start it.
 
2017-10-12 12:39:10 PM  
"Deception Point" - Don't remember.
"Digital Fortress" - Don't remember.
"Angels & Demons" - Good
"The Davinci Code" - Boring as hell.
"The Lost Symbol" - Boring as hell.
"Inferno" - Not going to read.
"Origin" - Not going to read.

Angels & Demons was fun to read because it was jam-packed with action. Then Brown became so enamored with the concepts behind his plots that now his books consist mostly of his characters talking endless about those concepts. In The Lost Symbol, for example, the main character spends multiple chapters talking with another character at the beginning of the book. They just stand there talking. While his friend is missing. Brown doesn't seem to know how to trust his readers. Instead of dropping bits of info here and there and trusting us to make the connections, he has to explain everything endlessly. Dude, if your readers need to know the entire crazy made-up nonsensical history of the Illuminati or Catholicism before they will understand the plot of your book, there's something wrong.

So, I'm done. I enjoyed the crazy action in Angels & Demons enough that I was willing to slog through four more mediocre-to-awful books in the hopes that Brown would write another book full of crazy action, but it's clear now that's not going to happen, so I'm out.
 
2017-10-12 12:43:11 PM  

Beerguy: SirEattonHogg: Voiceofreason01: Da Vinci Code sucked. Just sayin'.

Jesus, this.

"Deception Point" - Meh
"Digital Fortress" - Garbage
"Angels & Demons" - Good
"The Davinci Code" - Good
"The Lost Symbol" - Meh
"Inferno" - So bad I wanted to set myself on fire.
"Origin" - I can't bring myself to start it.


I read Da Vinci (bleah) and I only started reading Angels and Demons on advice from a colleague who wouldn't stop raving about it.  I couldn't get past the first few chapters. IMHO the characters and dialogue sucked so bad I just stopped reading.

Before I'm accused of being a snob, I don't mind reading airport shop pulp bestsellers - like King or Crichton, but the characters Dan Brown writes on and their dialogue are just unbelievable and cartoonish (not talking about the plot). But hey, what the hell do I know?  I mean the guy made millions, so my opinion is whatever.
 
2017-10-12 12:52:14 PM  

VogonPoet: I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.


User name checks out
 
2017-10-12 12:58:36 PM  
Next thing you know he's going to start a cult called fantology then the scientologists and fantologists will go to war with each other.
 
2017-10-12 12:58:41 PM  
Good luck getting the people that like to blow stuff up in his name to buy it.
 
2017-10-12 01:06:12 PM  
Skip Angels and Demons and DaVinci Code.  Read this:

 img.fark.net

Far superior writer.  Far better novel.
 
2017-10-12 01:18:09 PM  
FTA, his great revelations are
(1) the concept of g-d is pretty consistent across the three major Abrahamic religions.
(2) people adapt their belief systems to explain whatever they see going on around them

Hmmm....hey, if it sells books (and apparently it does), good for you, Dan.
 
2017-10-12 01:28:35 PM  
Isn't that the plot to Clarke's "Childhood's End"?
 
2017-10-12 01:36:47 PM  
No one tell Roko's Basilisk.
 
2017-10-12 01:56:13 PM  
a) God was replaced by Group-Think with the invention of the first cave shaman or priest.
b) UberDave is clearly wrong. You do not reverse entropy by Group-Think. You merely multiply it. Otherwise, reversing entropy is what gods are for.
c) Dan Brown seems to be stealing his ideas now from Jung's collective unconscious instead of counter-culture cranks. Which means he has finally read a new book.
d) I second the motion on reading Umberto Eco. He is an Italian medievalist. He is brilliant at putting medieval theology in terms of modern politics and vice versa. He really knows his amorphous occultism and  fungible conspiracy theories. I recommend that you do not think about them, for this way lies madness.
e) I read Childhood's End. Have not yet seen the movie/TV series. And no it isn't. Or maybe it is. Yes. No. Yes. No. Repeat ad nauseam or until your paper is filled.
f) Dan Brown books are something that everybody is buying or talking about. So I don't. They always turn out to be crap, so wait until they are remaindered or wait a bit longer and buy the paper back for $1.50 at a cheap used book store. If you can't wait more than two or three years, there is always the public library. Get on the waiting list.
g) I read the Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh books long, long before the lawsuit. Even before Dan Brown probably. They thought they had a great plagiarism case, but apparently you can not copyright non-fiction made-up bullshiat, only stuff you make up and sell as fiction. Fairness in trade or something.

They did have a good case as regards the similarities between their old BS and Dan Brown's old BS in new bottles, but they lost their case on that technicality. Old bullshiat belongs to everybody and can not be copyright protected. As the old saying goes, if you steal from one author it is plagiarism, if you steal from two or more, it is research. Everything that Baigent and Leigh were retailing was ancient theological and mythological conspiracy theories. No monies for you. Dan Brown put some imagination in the mix and sold it as "Is it really fiction?" instead of "It's not fiction!"

I think one or both of those unfortunate authors was Canadian. Part of the recycled myth of the Sang Real was set in Nova Scotia or possibly Montreal, or more likely both.

And as one last Ha! Ha!, Roman de la Rose and Foucault's Pendulum were taught by college professors and maybe some of the more advanced High School English teachers. The former is also a movie with Whozit there, the Scottish one, Sean Connery. The previous sentence is an example of me writing like I think. Middle age.
 
2017-10-12 02:01:06 PM  
I know all about the Sang Real story. I am part French, and like all Frenchmen, descended from the Merovingian Kings who claimed descent from Jesus Christ Himself, and thus a descendant from Jesus Christ Himself.

Get over yourself, Holy Grail. We all have the same ancestors from Charlemagne back. There but for the gracelessness of God and French history, go I.

Also, I read a lot of crap to amuse myself.
 
2017-10-12 02:04:16 PM  
The Roman Catholic Church hated it, but then the RCC hates all literature. If you need a good reading guide, try the Index Librorum Prohibitorum. It has all the great writers until they gave up keeping track.

The good is enemy of the best.
Talk best sellers, read the rest.
 
2017-10-12 02:08:41 PM  

brantgoose: d) I second the motion on reading Umberto Eco. He is an Italian medievalist. He is brilliant at putting medieval theology in terms of modern politics and vice versa. He really knows his amorphous occultism and  fungible conspiracy theories. I recommend that you do not think about them, for this way lies madness.
e) I read Childhood's End. Have not yet seen the movie/TV series. And no it isn't. Or maybe it is. Yes. No. Yes. No. Repeat ad nauseam or until your paper is filled


Lol. Loved the book. Tried watching the miniseries. Got 20 minutes into it and turned it off. I hated it.
Also I third about reading Eco. Freaking brilliant.
 
2017-10-12 02:09:06 PM  
"his eyes went white, like a shark about to attack"
 
2017-10-12 02:10:16 PM  
 
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