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(CTV News)   "Uh, yeah, 911? This is the museum down the road, we've got a couple of WW2 artillery shells on display here and we're not sure if they're live. Can you help us?" 911larity ensues   ( ctvnews.ca) divider line
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2017-10-12 01:56:23 PM  
I guess I missed the hilarious part.
 
2017-10-12 02:23:02 PM  
Some WW2 shells were found, the authorities were called, and it was dealt with...classic Fark-worthy story!

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2017-10-12 02:23:24 PM  
Well that headline bombed.
 
2017-10-12 02:23:25 PM  

blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.


The part when nothing happened.
 
2017-10-12 02:24:30 PM  
The headline was longer than the story...
 
2017-10-12 02:26:01 PM  
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Bugsy checked them out
 
2017-10-12 02:26:08 PM  
That article was 4 sentences. And contained absolutely no information. Like Why did the museum call? Did someone bring them in to be put on display? Have they been an exhibit in the museum for years and suddenly someone thought they might be live? This comment is longer than the actual article.
 
2017-10-12 02:26:19 PM  
Those wacky Canadians and their harebrained antics. Keep up the good work!
 
2017-10-12 02:29:42 PM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2017-10-12 02:29:53 PM  
Subby's reaction to this going green...

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2017-10-12 02:31:17 PM  
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2017-10-12 02:31:51 PM  
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2017-10-12 02:38:24 PM  

Sand Man: That article was 4 sentences. And contained absolutely no information. Like Why did the museum call? Did someone bring them in to be put on display? Have they been an exhibit in the museum for years and suddenly someone thought they might be live? This comment is longer than the actual article.


If a Newfie had written it, the story would have been longer than War and Peace.
 
2017-10-12 02:38:53 PM  
FTFA: An explosive disposal unit was brought in to help with the removal of the shells. Police say they were taken away and disposed of.

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2017-10-12 02:39:14 PM  
You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.
 
2017-10-12 02:43:28 PM  
I can understand people's apprehension about having live ordnance around, but is there any cases where a live shell has just exploded while sitting in a room? I mean these things were designed to be transported and handled. Do primers just decay and randomly activate?
 
2017-10-12 02:43:44 PM  

R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.


Or you could just give it a few good smacks with a hammer.
 
2017-10-12 02:43:53 PM  

R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.


your bomb-squad nickname would be lefty
 
2017-10-12 02:46:39 PM  

blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.


You just don't understand British humour.
 
2017-10-12 02:47:58 PM  

johnny_vegas: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

your bomb-squad nickname would be lefty


Why don't you just hit it to see if it sounds hollow?

I know.  My bomb-squad name would be That Guy What's Dead.
 
2017-10-12 02:52:10 PM  
OK then.
 
2017-10-12 02:56:43 PM  
DNRTFA
I just assume the cops showed up in a tank, killed everyone in a two block radius, and burned the place down.
I also assume the article tells me where I can make donations to help the officers deal with the trauma they suffered.
 
2017-10-12 03:01:09 PM  
I think I dozed off during the fun...any part?
 
2017-10-12 03:01:15 PM  

ds615: DNRTFA
I just assume the cops showed up in a tank, killed everyone in a two block radius, and burned the place down.
I also assume the article tells me where I can make donations to help the officers deal with the trauma they suffered.


No. This didn't happen in the US.
 
2017-10-12 03:03:57 PM  
I think we need a Canada tag. It seems their sense of humor is somewhat lacking, or just nonexistent.
 
2017-10-12 03:10:37 PM  

ds615: DNRTFA
I just assume the cops showed up in a tank, killed everyone in a two block radius, and burned the place down.
I also assume the article tells me where I can make donations to help the officers deal with the trauma they suffered.


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2017-10-12 03:11:39 PM  

GodComplex: I can understand people's apprehension about having live ordnance around, but is there any cases where a live shell has just exploded while sitting in a room? I mean these things were designed to be transported and handled. Do primers just decay and randomly activate?


Even if it is unlikely to explode sitting there, what if someone bumps it and knocks it over? Sure, it is designed to withstand that, but that was seventy odd years ago. Have the explosives become less stable or the safeties rusted away?

All in all better off not finding out.
 
2017-10-12 03:17:28 PM  

ds615: DNRTFA
I just assume the cops showed up in a tank, killed everyone in a two block radius, and burned the place down.
I also assume the article tells me where I can make donations to help the officers deal with the trauma they suffered.


Assuming the weight hasn't changed over time due to rusting or other things. And that it doesn't have a filling to match the weight of the explosive.

When dealing with explosive devices, I am happy to be over cautious.
 
2017-10-12 03:17:46 PM  

blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.


It wasn't hilarious...  it was 911larious.
 
2017-10-12 03:24:42 PM  

dywed88: Even if it is unlikely to explode sitting there, what if someone bumps it and knocks it over?


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2017-10-12 03:53:21 PM  
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When does the hilarity start?
 
2017-10-12 04:42:26 PM  

morg: blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.

You just don't understand British humour.


This happened in Canada you dolt!
 
2017-10-12 04:47:47 PM  

bratface: morg: blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.

You just don't understand British humour.

This happened in Canada you dolt!


Well! You are obviously not Canadian.
 
2017-10-12 04:54:46 PM  

Schmerd1948: bratface: morg: blatz514: I guess I missed the hilarious part.

You just don't understand British humour.

This happened in Canada you dolt!

Well! You are obviously not Canadian.


Why is that?
 
2017-10-12 04:59:55 PM  
Everybody's dumping on my headline today. No creativity, the lot of you - you have to imagine the reaction of the cops!!!  Hilarity!

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2017-10-12 06:11:36 PM  

R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.


Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).
 
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2017-10-12 06:14:07 PM  
Back in the early 80s a French WW1 museum had a large mustard gas artillery shell on display until a visiting researcher who was a retired ordinanceman noticed that it was a live shell, complete with impact fuse, evacuations occurred,,,,
 
2017-10-12 06:25:03 PM  

rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).


Just let a group of 12 year old boys play with it. If it has explosive/combustable potential greater than a wet rock, they will discover and exploit it within 3 minutes.
 
2017-10-12 06:26:03 PM  

rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).


Yeah, in case it is live, I will leave those checks to professionals.
 
2017-10-12 06:27:01 PM  

Shryke: rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).

Just let a group of 12 year old boys play with it. If it has explosive/combustable potential greater than a wet rock, they will discover and exploit it within 3 minutes.


Just make sure you get their admission payments before hand and have their parents sign away any rights to sue you.
 
2017-10-12 06:30:45 PM  

dywed88: rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).

Yeah, in case it is live, I will leave those checks to professionals.


A visual inspection is very easy. And it is incredibly rare to find actual live shells in museums.  Two popular items are 40mm shells and 1.1-inch shells, with a practice shell attached to an already-fired casing, because they are small. Being overly cautious results in history being unnecessarily destroyed.
 
2017-10-12 06:57:18 PM  

rebelyell2006: dywed88: rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).

Yeah, in case it is live, I will leave those checks to professionals.

A visual inspection is very easy. And it is incredibly rare to find actual live shells in museums.  Two popular items are 40mm shells and 1.1-inch shells, with a practice shell attached to an already-fired casing, because they are small. Being overly cautious results in history being unnecessarily destroyed.


We don't know the type of shell, be in a bofors shell, from a 25 pounder, or something even larger such as a ten inch coastal artillery piece (though I doubt it as the article sounds like it was easily moved).

We don't know the situation of the shell, was it in the museum for years? Did someone have it in their home? Did someone find it laying around recently?

We don't know the condition of the shell, was it like New or worn and battered? That could make visual inspection difficult.

But if we are dealing with decent five year old explosive devices, I am going to be damned careful. Sure an incident might be one in a million chance, but the implications are so severe that I will take precautions.
 
2017-10-12 07:10:12 PM  

dywed88: rebelyell2006: dywed88: rebelyell2006: R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.

Even easier, check for indentations at the bottom if it is a QF type of shell (indentations indicate it has already been fired).  Check for holes in the propellant casing or shell (indicating that the explosive-containing part was drilled open, and the entire thing was submerged in water to dissolve the explosives). Check to see if the penetrator/shell part is loosely attached to the propellant casing (if loose, it had already been disabled, because fresh-from-the-factory is snug).   Check for any unsmooth crimping around the point where the penetrator/shell is attached to the propellant casing (again, indicating that it was disassembled and disabled).

Yeah, in case it is live, I will leave those checks to professionals.

A visual inspection is very easy. And it is incredibly rare to find actual live shells in museums.  Two popular items are 40mm shells and 1.1-inch shells, with a practice shell attached to an already-fired casing, because they are small. Being overly cautious results in history being unnecessarily destroyed.

We don't know the type of shell, be in a bofors shell, from a 25 pounder, or something even larger such as a ten inch coastal artillery piece (though I doubt it as the article sounds like it was easily moved).

We don't know the situation of the shell, was it in the museum for years? Did someone have it in their home? Did someone find it laying around recently?

We don't know the condition of the shell, was it like New or worn and battered? That could make visual inspection difficult.

But if we are dealing with decent five year old explosive devices, I am going to be damned careful. Sure an incident might be one in a million chance, but the implications are so severe that I will take precautions.


I'm just pointing out what I would do if I were at that museum. I have examined artillery shells at a few museums in the past, including my current museum. Those examinations are simple and quick.
 
2017-10-12 10:25:08 PM  
FTFA: An explosive disposal unit was brought in to help with the removal of the shells. Police say they were taken away and disposed of. Geez, they were just trying to do their jobs...
 
2017-10-13 10:34:45 AM  

R.O.U.S: You'd think this would be relatively simple to figure out. Get a scale and look up the specs for how heavy a shell full of explosive should be. If it's lighter than that, no problem.


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