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(War is Boring)   C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker: U.S. Military takes delivery of a major new weapon system on-time and on-budget   (warisboring.com) divider line
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2017-10-09 05:50:33 PM  
The program's advantage over other defense programs remains risk associated with new technological requirements. The tank used past designs with enhancements, even keeping the previous engine instead of going with a more efficient diesel. Other programs have greater risks, especially if requirements drive designing new hardware; developing new technologies; coding new software; applying new materials, manufacturing techniques, assembly lines and so on.

Making new technologies work on the battlefield takes risk assessments and funding to overcome the problems you most certainly will run into walls with.
 
2017-10-09 05:52:14 PM  
Principal improvements are in lethality, survivability and sustainability,"

It's solar powered?
 
2017-10-09 07:32:37 PM  
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2017-10-09 07:32:47 PM  
Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.
 
2017-10-09 07:33:53 PM  

fusillade762: Principal improvements are in lethality, survivability and sustainability,"

It's solar powered?


No, it uses oil of the liberated country. So as long as it keeps liberating, it will keep going.

I do like the idea of the apu.
 
2017-10-09 07:34:39 PM  

LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.


Russia and China seem to think that they are.
 
2017-10-09 07:35:24 PM  
I think I figured out how they were able to develop these tanks on time and under budget...

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2017-10-09 07:35:44 PM  

LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.


as long as the other side doesn't have A10s, yeah.
 
2017-10-09 07:38:20 PM  

LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.


Tanks stopped being relevant?
 
2017-10-09 07:39:58 PM  

El Trolo: LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.

as long as the other side doesn't have A10s, yeah.


Bbrraaaappp
 
2017-10-09 07:40:48 PM  
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2017-10-09 07:42:38 PM  

AirForceVet: ... to overcome the problems you most certainly will run into walls with.


I think this thing will run into walls better than Kool Aid Man.
/ Oh yeah!
 
2017-10-09 07:45:30 PM  
Wait, what?

A 1k amp generator?  What a weird way to specify a generator.
 
2017-10-09 07:48:02 PM  
On time and on budget?

Why does this make me nervous?
 
2017-10-09 07:49:06 PM  
I thought the deal was you could have two of three:
On time
On budget
Quality
 
2017-10-09 07:49:51 PM  

DarkVader: Wait, what?

A 1k amp generator?  What a weird way to specify a generator.


What's weird about it?  It's a constant current supply...1000 amps, all the time.  Perfectly safe.
 
2017-10-09 07:52:14 PM  

guestguy: DarkVader: Wait, what?

A 1k amp generator?  What a weird way to specify a generator.

What's weird about it?  It's a constant current supply...1000 amps, all the time.  Perfectly safe.


Careful where you pee.
 
2017-10-09 07:53:13 PM  
Hmm, it's an update program. Start with a wore out M1, strip it down, penetrant dye test all the parts, magflux the thicker parts of the frame. Reassemble with new rubber parts, install modernish electronics package.

It rolling iron. Like with deisel train engines, you bring them in to replace or rebuild everything on the frame and apply new paint. It's not quite a "my father's axe" situation.
 
2017-10-09 07:53:30 PM  

El Trolo: LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.

as long as the other side doesn't have A10s, yeah.


Or attack helicopters, or drones, or anti tank weapons...
 
2017-10-09 07:53:32 PM  

LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.


Tanks are incredibly effective weapons.  It took us 9 years before we deployed them in Afghanistan but we have been using them for 7 years there now.
 
2017-10-09 07:54:27 PM  
That APU and data link for munitions are nice additions!
 
2017-10-09 07:58:17 PM  
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2017-10-09 08:01:00 PM  
Btw.  On friday I learned that Trump is planning to IMMEDIATELY slash the disabilities program by half (so old and disabled people literally starve to death), decrease taxes to the top 1%, and increase the military, CIA and FBI budgets by eighty gazillion trillion dollars so they can spy on you even easier.

I forget the exact amounts, but that's accurate enough.  Please call your congress critter to complain.

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
 
2017-10-09 08:03:27 PM  
It's already passed the House of Representatives, so guess there's no point in calling them, but the bill is hitting the senate very soon.  Not a lot of time, so call asap please.
 
2017-10-09 08:04:03 PM  

LordJiro: Oh, good, because tanks are such a relevant technology nowadays.


You can't hold ground with airplanes. You can make ground expensive from the air, but you can't hold it.
 
2017-10-09 08:05:39 PM  
How long before we get Bolos, I wonder?

About 2 years for a prototype to appear is my guess. Self-driving car + tank + ai = oh come on you know it's going to happen.
 
2017-10-09 08:07:17 PM  
So they cost $20 million a pop (plus a trade-in of an existing A1)?  And we are going to order 1000 of them, so 20 billion farking dollars to replace a 2007 model of tank because we are doing SO MUCH tank warfare in the current environment.  Hell, my car is older than that and it gets driven every day.  All while we have people in Washington who are cutting every social program in existence to be "fiscally responsible".  I guess their definition doesn't include responsible spending on defense, probably because their campaign contributions come from the people who get the bulk of that money where spending on SNAP and Medicaid get spread around too much.
 
2017-10-09 08:08:43 PM  
His name is Steve. He got through basic.
 
2017-10-09 08:11:55 PM  
China hacked our gen 5 planes.  RU hacked our capital ships & our drones.
If sh*t ever gets hot, these tanks will suddenly be flooded by pop-ups for P3n1s 3nl@rger & FB invites for rallies against TX Sharia law.
 
2017-10-09 08:19:40 PM  
I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....
 
2017-10-09 08:25:32 PM  

Loris: I thought the deal was you could have two of three:
On time
On budget
Quality


Well, on budget is 20mil, so take that into consideration
 
2017-10-09 08:28:24 PM  

CorruptDB: So they cost $20 million a pop (plus a trade-in of an existing A1)?  And we are going to order 1000 of them, so 20 billion farking dollars to replace a 2007 model of tank because we are doing SO MUCH tank warfare in the current environment.  Hell, my car is older than that and it gets driven every day.  All while we have people in Washington who are cutting every social program in existence to be "fiscally responsible".  I guess their definition doesn't include responsible spending on defense, probably because their campaign contributions come from the people who get the bulk of that money where spending on SNAP and Medicaid get spread around too much.


Yeah, but when's the last time SNAP blew up some people and took their oil, eh, smart guy?

You want to make republicans care about the poor, give them oil reserves.
 
2017-10-09 08:30:40 PM  
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2017-10-09 08:32:42 PM  

jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....


The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?
 
2017-10-09 08:40:25 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?


That started in WWII and only with American tanks. German tanks have names like Jagdpanzer 38 (Sd.Kfz. 138/2).
 
2017-10-09 08:45:50 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?


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The M3 Lee, officially Medium Tank, M3, was an American medium tank used during World War II. In Britain, the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration and crew size. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "Lee", named after Confederate general Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "Grant," named after Union general Ulysses S. Grant.
 
2017-10-09 08:58:58 PM  
Did trump take credit for it already?
 
2017-10-09 09:05:39 PM  

UsikFark: Natalie Portmanteau: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?

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The M3 Lee, officially Medium Tank, M3, was an American medium tank used during World War II. In Britain, the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration and crew size. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "Lee", named after Confederate general Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "Grant," named after Union general Ulysses S. Grant.


Then this should be named the Schwarzkopf, please!

/My Schwarzkopf is bigger than your Schwarzkopf!
//giggles
 
2017-10-09 09:07:43 PM  

iheartscotch: Natalie Portmanteau: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?

That started in WWII and only with American tanks. German tanks have names like Jagdpanzer 38 (Sd.Kfz. 138/2).


Well, yeah, obviously that's just Americans, but he was asking why they don't name them wolverine now. Or did I misread that?
 
2017-10-09 09:08:30 PM  

anti-riaa: Did trump take credit for it already?


No. If he were to take credit for something that is worth $20 million, shoots projectiles at people, and weighs several tons he would have called it an O'Donnell.
 
2017-10-09 09:08:45 PM  

musicmanboston: UsikFark: Natalie Portmanteau: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

The Wolverine was the nickname of the M10 tank destroyer.

Plus I think all battle tanks are named after generals, no?

[vignette.wikia.nocookie.net image 300x202]

The M3 Lee, officially Medium Tank, M3, was an American medium tank used during World War II. In Britain, the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration and crew size. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "Lee", named after Confederate general Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "Grant," named after Union general Ulysses S. Grant.

Then this should be named the Schwarzkopf, please!

/My Schwarzkopf is bigger than your Schwarzkopf!
//giggles


My vote is for the Hooker.
 
2017-10-09 09:14:30 PM  

anti-riaa: Did trump take credit for it already?


...right about...nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnow...
 
2017-10-09 09:17:59 PM  

jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....


Should name it the Spartan if you want to win.
 
2017-10-09 09:19:51 PM  
War is boring is cool. It was better in the past, however. It has become a bit too political imo
 
2017-10-09 09:21:21 PM  

This text is now purple: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

Should name it the Spartan if you want to win.


The Spartans lost...
 
2017-10-09 09:26:46 PM  

Loris: I thought the deal was you could have two of three:
On time
On budget
Quality


That's a common misconception; it's one of those three.
 
2017-10-09 09:37:25 PM  

stackjack: Btw.  On friday I learned that Trump is planning to IMMEDIATELY slash the disabilities program by half (so old and disabled people literally starve to death), decrease taxes to the top 1%, and increase the military, CIA and FBI budgets by eighty gazillion trillion dollars so they can spy on you even easier.

I forget the exact amounts, but that's accurate enough.  Please call your congress critter to complain.

https://www.house.gov/representatives/​find/

https://www.senate.gov/general/contact​_information/senators_cfm.cfm


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/thanks Dmitri
 
2017-10-09 09:44:04 PM  

stackjack: It's already passed the House of Representatives, so guess there's no point in calling them, but the bill is hitting the senate very soon.  Not a lot of time, so call asap please.


Text resist to 50409
 
2017-10-09 09:47:06 PM  

thehobbes: This text is now purple: jpo2269: I wish they would name this new tank the Wolverine.....

Should name it the Spartan if you want to win.

The Spartans lost...


nope, they held out in the rain and beat UM 14-10
 
2017-10-09 09:51:16 PM  

johnny_vegas: stackjack: Btw.  On friday I learned that Trump is planning to IMMEDIATELY slash the disabilities program by half (so old and disabled people literally starve to death), decrease taxes to the top 1%, and increase the military, CIA and FBI budgets by eighty gazillion trillion dollars so they can spy on you even easier.

I forget the exact amounts, but that's accurate enough.  Please call your congress critter to complain.

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Login: stackjack
Fark account number: 1013568
Account created: 2017-09-26

/thanks Dmitri


lmao I thought the same thing.....putin has invaded fark!
 
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