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(Ars Technica)   It turns out Kaspersky is an arm of Russian intelligence, and if you have any of their software installed on your computer, you also have a backdoor for Putin   ( arstechnica.com) divider line
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2017-10-06 11:42:08 AM  
Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.
 
2017-10-06 11:53:23 AM  
Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.
 
2017-10-06 12:08:56 PM  

harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.


What about malwarebytes?
 
2017-10-06 12:08:58 PM  
Rule 34 in full effect.
 
2017-10-06 12:10:42 PM  

ArkPanda: harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.

What about malwarebytes?


That's different.  Malware is not technically considered a virus
 
2017-10-06 12:11:20 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Rule 34 in full effect.


Are you saying I have computer herpes?
 
2017-10-06 12:26:07 PM  
Friends, you should try Slovakian anti-virus ESET.
 
2017-10-06 12:33:50 PM  

harleyquinnical: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Rule 34 in full effect.

Are you saying I have computer herpes?


I'm saying there's probably porn depicting the fact that "you also have a backdoor for Putin."
 
2017-10-06 12:36:29 PM  
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2017-10-06 12:37:29 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: harleyquinnical: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Rule 34 in full effect.

Are you saying I have computer herpes?

I'm saying there's probably porn depicting the fact that "you also have a backdoor for Putin."


Back Door To Russia strikes me as a French fetish.
 
2017-10-06 12:56:01 PM  
WatsKasperski?

Oh, yeah, anti malware. Something I haven't worried about for years.

/ios hatred welcome
//when you can spare some time
///getting rid of malware
////trolling :)
 
2017-10-06 12:57:41 PM  
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How you like me now, bishes!?!

 
2017-10-06 01:04:33 PM  
Because malware might have been described in the stolen files, the files might have triggered the virus scanner as possibly being a new virus variation, and a summary of the file might have been reported upstream. That info might have been captured by someone who later attacked the machine.
 
2017-10-06 01:05:07 PM  

bdub77: Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.


Backdoor for Putin is the name of my pop-country band. We're playing the next Republican convention.
 
2017-10-06 01:07:17 PM  
I always assumed Microsoft had a deal cut with the DoD and that's why they allowed such blatant piracy of their products in China.
 
2017-10-06 01:09:49 PM  
Kaspersky is a virus. Admittedly not as bad as Norton but still designed to cripple your computer.
 
2017-10-06 01:12:27 PM  

bdub77: Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.


Sounds more like a Putin-Trump sextape.
 
2017-10-06 01:15:49 PM  

Fano: I always assumed Microsoft had a deal cut with the DoD and that's why they allowed such blatant piracy of their products in China.


Bill Gates said years ago they were going to steal and he would rather they steal his product and in the end make it more valuable.
 
2017-10-06 01:18:15 PM  

bdub77: Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.


Backdoor Putin 4 wasn't as good as 2 and 3. The actors and actresses seemed to just be going through the motions, they recycled plots and the closes ups were a bit disturbing.
 
2017-10-06 01:20:30 PM  
All anti-virius programs are benevolent root kits.
 
2017-10-06 01:46:47 PM  

harleyquinnical: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: harleyquinnical: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Rule 34 in full effect.

Are you saying I have computer herpes?

I'm saying there's probably porn depicting the fact that "you also have a backdoor for Putin."

Back Door To Russia strikes me as a French fetish.


img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2017-10-06 01:46:55 PM  
Not sure if giggity.
 
2017-10-06 01:55:49 PM  

sirrerun: [img.fark.net image 672x377]
How you like me now, bishes!?!


We have McAfee at work, and it seems to do nothing.  Like goggles.
 
2017-10-06 01:58:49 PM  

Cheron: bdub77: Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.

Backdoor Putin 4 wasn't as good as 2 and 3. The actors and actresses seemed to just be going through the motions, they recycled plots and the closes ups were a bit disturbing.


img.fark.netView Full Size

Totally agree about the close ups in that one.
/shudder
 
2017-10-06 02:09:00 PM  
Backdoor for Poutine is my Rod Torfulson's Armada Featuring Herman Menderchuck cover band.

/I got nuthin'
 
2017-10-06 02:17:06 PM  
Trump has a backdoor for Putin.
 
2017-10-06 02:17:15 PM  
This was kinda obvious. Just like with Skype and the NSA.
 
2017-10-06 02:20:04 PM  
It is now. It really was excellent and had a stellar reputation before the takeover.  Which is exactly why it was taken.  THIS is why Russia is once again a threat.  They ALMOST managed to turn it around to being just another nation, even after the rise of Putin, but they've realized they have an absolute motherland lode of expertise in information warfare and that fits perfectly with the modern internet and apparently are completely unable to resist pushing it.
 
2017-10-06 02:22:21 PM  

ArkPanda: harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.

What about malwarebytes?


Decent combo with Windows Defender.
 
2017-10-06 02:26:56 PM  
You mean that crap that Best Buy tries to give away with every electronic device purchase?
 
2017-10-06 02:34:13 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: It is now. It really was excellent and had a stellar reputation before the takeover.  Which is exactly why it was taken.  THIS is why Russia is once again a threat.  They ALMOST managed to turn it around to being just another nation, even after the rise of Putin, but they've realized they have an absolute motherland lode of expertise in information warfare and that fits perfectly with the modern internet and apparently are completely unable to resist pushing it.


I've read that they blame Obama/Clinton for the Ukraine election fraud/troubles that they had. The timing seemed interesting, "during the Russian hosted Olympics, lets get a Western leaning leader in the Ukraine". Three letter agencies would call the apparent Russian response "blowback".

Interesting that this resulted in tons of deaths and an airliner getting blasted out of the sky, but, it isn't talked about very much.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-​w​ar-kiev-conflict
 
2017-10-06 02:39:24 PM  
Except there is no evidence...
2nd paragraph of the article (since I knwo most of you didn't get that far)
"The report may well be true, but, for now, there's no way to independently confirm it. The report is based on unnamed people the publication says had knowledge of the matter, and it provides no evidence to support its claim."
 
2017-10-06 02:53:10 PM  

mrsleep: 2nd paragraph of the article (since I knwo most of you didn't get that far)
"The report may well be true, but, for now, there's no way to independently confirm it. The report is based on unnamed people the


Personally, I wouldn't trust any Eastern European software or hardware (if they make any).

Then again, I don't trust Chinese gear, either...this one is tougher to keep track of
 
2017-10-06 02:58:16 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: You mean that crap that Best Buy tries to give away with every electronic device purchase?


Not anymore.  BB pulled it off the shelves when the FBI made their announcement about the possible ties to the Russian government.  Whether or not they really did Kapersky is toast.
 
2017-10-06 03:03:36 PM  

mrsleep: Except there is no evidence...
2nd paragraph of the article (since I knwo most of you didn't get that far)
"The report may well be true, but, for now, there's no way to independently confirm it. The report is based on unnamed people the publication says had knowledge of the matter, and it provides no evidence to support its claim."


I actually did get that far and closed the page when this turned out to be speculation.  Not sure why ARS is pushing this narrative with no real facts to back it up.

Once the facts come out, then Ill be interested again.
 
2017-10-06 03:13:32 PM  

harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.


it used to be the experts were telling people to use Kaspersky. Given that was years ago, but how can we trust the current lineup?
 
2017-10-06 03:19:08 PM  
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What a backdoor for Putin might look like...
 
2017-10-06 03:28:14 PM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: [img.fark.net image 640x640]
What a backdoor for Putin might look like...


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2017-10-06 03:37:34 PM  

Get Rich or Try Dyin': bdub77: Backdoor 4 Putin is the name of my Russian punk band.

Sounds more like a Putin-Trump sextape.


Nothing Trumps a backdoor for Putin.
 
2017-10-06 03:44:13 PM  
USA Vendors (and Sophos in the UK)

Sophos    Sophos Anti-Virus    United Kingdom
Check Point    ZoneAlarm Extreme Security    United States
Comodo Group    Comodo Antivirus Advanced    United States
Fortinet    FortiClient    United States
iolo technologies    iolo System Shield Antivirus & Antispyware    United States
McAfee    McAfee Internet Security    United States
Microsoft    Windows Defender    United States
Cisco(originallyImmunet)    Immunet    United States
Symantec    Norton Internet Security    United States
Webroot    Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus    United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_antivirus_software

And of course the PC-Matic as seen on TV
 
2017-10-06 03:44:47 PM  

Autarky: LowbrowDeluxe: It is now. It really was excellent and had a stellar reputation before the takeover.  Which is exactly why it was taken.  THIS is why Russia is once again a threat.  They ALMOST managed to turn it around to being just another nation, even after the rise of Putin, but they've realized they have an absolute motherland lode of expertise in information warfare and that fits perfectly with the modern internet and apparently are completely unable to resist pushing it.

I've read that they blame Obama/Clinton for the Ukraine election fraud/troubles that they had. The timing seemed interesting, "during the Russian hosted Olympics, lets get a Western leaning leader in the Ukraine". Three letter agencies would call the apparent Russian response "blowback".

Interesting that this resulted in tons of deaths and an airliner getting blasted out of the sky, but, it isn't talked about very much.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-w​ar-kiev-conflict


They DO blame Clinton, heavily.  Because international agencies suggested 110% voter turnout with near 100% pro-Russian sentiment was a farking travesty and Clinton had the gall to go on record as Sec of State saying "Yes, it seems fishy."  Then there were protests by a lot of Ukrainians AND Russians who probably didn't care what Clinton said, but a mob uprising has been Putin's secret bed-wetting fear since almost getting killed by a mob when the Iron Curtain fell leaving him trapped as a KGB legbreaker in one of the satellite states.  He's reportedly semi-obsessed with Gadaffi's death and the US's off-hands responsibility for that, as well.
 
2017-10-06 03:52:58 PM  

harleyquinnical: ArkPanda: harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.

What about malwarebytes?

That's different.  Malware is not technically considered a virus


That's misleading / not quite right.  All viruses are malware.  Not every piece of malware is a virus.

But I suspect you meant to say adware or spyware, which is Malwarebytes' traditional forte....

This continued rumor mongering, true or not, about KAV sucks because it was really the best performer, at least at one point when I was still paying attention.  Never actually bought it though.

But all AV software just stinks.  It approaches what people like to call "security theater".
 
2017-10-06 04:07:14 PM  

mrsleep: Except there is no evidence...
2nd paragraph of the article (since I knwo most of you didn't get that far)
"The report may well be true, but, for now, there's no way to independently confirm it. The report is based on unnamed people the publication says had knowledge of the matter, and it provides no evidence to support its claim."


Wait... so suddenly you people require proof?
 
2017-10-06 04:20:29 PM  

Autarky: mrsleep: 2nd paragraph of the article (since I knwo most of you didn't get that far)
"The report may well be true, but, for now, there's no way to independently confirm it. The report is based on unnamed people the

Personally, I wouldn't trust any Eastern European software or hardware (if they make any).

Then again, I don't trust Chinese gear, either...this one is tougher to keep track of


If you don't trust Chinese hardware how are you posting online? Serious people would like to know.
Why would Putin want a backdoor to my or your computer, he can download his own porn.
 
rpm
2017-10-06 04:58:48 PM  

WaitForIt: USA Vendors (and Sophos in the UK)
Check Point    ZoneAlarm Extreme Security    United States


Checkpoint is Israeli

harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.


Avast, you mean the company that had one of their build servers compromised and distributed malware as patches?

Or Comodo that issued bogus SSL serts?
 
2017-10-06 05:06:54 PM  
ESET was good once upon a time, of course it was probably more like a protection racket since they were likely the virus writers anyway...no wonder it worked so well.

Commies, commies never change.
 
2017-10-06 05:15:16 PM  
Gosh, my alt-right acquaintances assured me that I was being paranoid in saying that the Russians were neck deep in Kapersky!  Why, if they could be wrong about this, what other things could they possibly be wrong about?!?

Yeah, this is sarcasm.  They're wrong about every single thing.
 
2017-10-06 05:26:25 PM  

Daddy's Big Pink Man-Squirrel: [img.fark.net image 640x640]
What a backdoor for Putin might look like...


O_O that's one hell of a shoop.
 
2017-10-06 05:35:03 PM  

rpm: WaitForIt: USA Vendors (and Sophos in the UK)
Check Point    ZoneAlarm Extreme Security    United States


Checkpoint is Israeli

harleyquinnical: Either use Windows Defender, Avast, Comodo, or STFU.

Avast, you mean the company that had one of their build servers compromised and distributed malware as patches?

Or Comodo that issued bogus SSL serts?


What does that leave... ClamAV?
 
2017-10-06 05:37:17 PM  
/uses ClamAV on firewall running ClearOS
 
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