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2017-10-06 11:33:27 AM  
In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.
 
2017-10-06 11:40:16 AM  

Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.


It's sci-fantasy

Also never did understand 2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968).  Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.
 
2017-10-06 11:46:35 AM  

Merltech: Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.


Yeah, I hate sci-fi where there is no sound or explosions in the vacuum of space.  Bore-ring!  Give me the realism of TIE-fighter engines roaring and exploding.

Also, list fails without the first movie taking place in the Star Trek universe: Ömer the Tourist in Star Trek:

Turkish Star Trek 1 of 9
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2017-10-06 11:58:45 AM  
List fails because Ghost In The Shell is what gave us The Matrix.
 
2017-10-06 12:20:46 PM  

harleyquinnical: List fails because Ghost In The Shell is what gave us The Matrix.


For something that was written in the late 90's, GiTS shows us where humanity could possibly go.
 
2017-10-06 12:46:23 PM  

Merltech: Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.

It's sci-fantasy

Also never did understand 2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968).  Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.


So did I. I think it influenced Star Trek TMP. And I don't need anyone telling me to go watch a Michael Bay movie. I love Blade Runner and it was also shall we say "deliberate". 2001 was farking boring.
 
2017-10-06 12:51:46 PM  

harleyquinnical: List fails because Ghost In The Shell is what gave us The Matrix.


The Matrix influenced VFX and I respect that more than you know. But it didn't influence sci-if, there are plenty of stories very similar to it.

Although it did influence Drew Barrymore beating up a lot of guys in slow motion with a 360 degree camera motion so The Matrix belongs on some kind of prominent list.
 
2017-10-06 12:52:16 PM  

Merltech: Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.

It's sci-fantasy

Also never did understand 2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968).  Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.


Kubrick tried to "do it right" with 2001 by using what was thought to be future orbital platforms and the like. It was fascinating to see how the astronauts would live in outer space. The beginning is a bit slow but the story is really well done.

I'm glad they put in Mad Max. It is very different than the sequels, but it sets the tone. Having said that, I think A Boy and His Dog would have been a better post apocalyptic representative. That movie is fantastic.
 
2017-10-06 12:54:40 PM  
1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 60 years old.......


49 is almost 60?
 
2017-10-06 12:55:02 PM  
Criminey Pete!

No Metropolis?
No Silent Running?

Those films changed SciFi for me.
 
2017-10-06 12:58:39 PM  

Hawk24: 1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 60 years old.......

49 is almost 60?


Yeah, that article needed an editor.  It's not Blade Runner 2047 either, it's 2049...

However, I agree with all the movies on the list...including and especially The Matrix.  As I read somewhere else, (paraphrasing) The Matrix set moviemaking ahead a decade, and the sequels set moviemaking back a decade...
 
2017-10-06 01:02:25 PM  
No 'Close Encounters..' or 'Metropolis' = list FAIL
 
2017-10-06 01:04:52 PM  

gazelam: Criminey Pete!

No Metropolis?
No Silent Running?

Those films changed SciFi for me.


This.
 
2017-10-06 01:15:58 PM  
No Fifth Element? Any science fiction movie where Milla Jovovich takes off her clothes has got to be on that list.
 
2017-10-06 01:21:13 PM  

movieman_1979: No 'Close Encounters..' or 'Metropolis' = list FAIL


Ehhhh, "Close Encounters"? YMMV.
I agree with Metropolis though.
 
2017-10-06 01:21:16 PM  
I think the Matrix sucked, it is sci fi light.   Equilibrium was much better.

But having read a lot of early cyber punk, the Matrix was just meh to me.


I would say Disneys the Black Hole was a big game changer.  Inherently dark and Violent, and George Clinton soundtrack.
 
2017-10-06 01:29:05 PM  
Am I the only one who doesn't have a fark to give for the Blade Runner sequel?

The original is one of my all-time favorite films. But it getting a sequel after so many decades sounds like a horrendously lame cash-grab idea to me, and it didn't exactly beg for a sequel in the first place even when the movie was new.

And if they were going to do it, why not just leave Harrison Ford out of it? Have you seen him in ....well.... everything lately? He just sleepwalks through everything like he can't wait to go home. His days of good or even adequate performances are behind him. Having his character in there just is the most ham-handed way to utilize your nostalgia to get you to buy a ticket. It's supposed to be this future with humanity spread out to the stars and we need to see the same schmuck from the first movie in it? Just tell a story which has to do with the theme of what the difference between people and property is that the first one was about, and continue it that way.

Ugh...
 
2017-10-06 01:31:52 PM  

mongbiohazard: Am I the only one who doesn't have a fark to give for the Blade Runner sequel?

The original is one of my all-time favorite films. But it getting a sequel after so many decades sounds like a horrendously lame cash-grab idea to me, and it didn't exactly beg for a sequel in the first place even when the movie was new.

And if they were going to do it, why not just leave Harrison Ford out of it? Have you seen him in ....well.... everything lately? He just sleepwalks through everything like he can't wait to go home. His days of good or even adequate performances are behind him. Having his character in there just is the most ham-handed way to utilize your nostalgia to get you to buy a ticket. It's supposed to be this future with humanity spread out to the stars and we need to see the same schmuck from the first movie in it? Just tell a story which has to do with the theme of what the difference between people and property is that the first one was about, and continue it that way.

Ugh...


I didn't until I saw Arrival. Now, I'm willing to give Denis Villeneuve the benefit of the doubt.
 
2017-10-06 01:33:27 PM  

Tarl3k: Hawk24: 1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 60 years old.......

49 is almost 60?

Yeah, that article needed an editor.  It's not Blade Runner 2047 either, it's 2049...

However, I agree with all the movies on the list...including and especially The Matrix.  As I read somewhere else, (paraphrasing) The Matrix set moviemaking ahead a decade, and the sequels set moviemaking back a decade...


FTA:
1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 50 years old, and it is a testament to Stanley Kubrick's absolute genius (and unending perfectionism) that there isn't a single visual in here that would be crude or out-of-place in a super-budgeted sci-fi film today. (Well, maybe the ape makeup.) Still, all these years later, the gold standard for special effects - and for movies that sends you out in a giddy state of wonder.


It quite plainly says "50" in the article.
 
2017-10-06 01:34:15 PM  
It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.
 
2017-10-06 01:35:41 PM  

mekkab: It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.


Overall Dark City was great, your friends were just wrong.
 
2017-10-06 01:35:46 PM  
List fails without Dark Star.
 
2017-10-06 01:35:55 PM  

mongbiohazard: Am I the only one who doesn't have a fark to give for the Blade Runner sequel?

The original is one of my all-time favorite films. But it getting a sequel after so many decades sounds like a horrendously lame cash-grab idea to me, and it didn't exactly beg for a sequel in the first place even when the movie was new.

And if they were going to do it, why not just leave Harrison Ford out of it? Have you seen him in ....well.... everything lately? He just sleepwalks through everything like he can't wait to go home. His days of good or even adequate performances are behind him. Having his character in there just is the most ham-handed way to utilize your nostalgia to get you to buy a ticket. It's supposed to be this future with humanity spread out to the stars and we need to see the same schmuck from the first movie in it? Just tell a story which has to do with the theme of what the difference between people and property is that the first one was about, and continue it that way.

Ugh...


I saw it last night.  Ford is OK in it and he's legit supposed to be there.

/did not enjoy the movie.  Its beautiful, has a few ideas, and is too long, too dull for me to give a sh*t.  I also wish movies would stop mistaking BIG LOUD MUSIC as a substitute for genuine intensity built by character and plot.  This reminded me of Dunkirk, which I thought was the best made boring movie, or the boringest best movie.
 
2017-10-06 01:36:21 PM  

Learned Hand Job: I didn't until I saw Arrival. Now, I'm willing to give Denis Villeneuve the benefit of the doubt.


^

Yep.  That's really the only reason I'm even willing to give BR2049 a shot.
 
2017-10-06 01:37:06 PM  
I could agree with every movie on that list.  A few additions like silent running or close encounters would fit on it as well, in my humble opinion.
 
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2017-10-06 01:39:47 PM  
Eh, list fails without Johnny Mnemonic.
 
2017-10-06 01:41:07 PM  

mongbiohazard: Am I the only one who doesn't have a fark to give for the Blade Runner sequel?


I had my doubts, and still do, but if reviews are to be believed they pulled it off. I'll reserve judgment until I've seen it, but I'm not going in expecting it to suck.

As for the list, mark me down as being with the Metropolis group. Can't see how you can leave that off the list. And I'd have La Jetée on their over The Matrix. Then again, I'd have a lot on there over The Matrix.
 
2017-10-06 01:41:36 PM  

red5ish: No Fifth Element? Any science fiction movie where Milla Jovovich takes off her clothes has got to be on that list.


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Let's not forget the 'peeling antibodies off of Raquel Welch's suit' scene in Fantastic Voyage.
 
2017-10-06 01:41:55 PM  

swahnhennessy: And I'd have La Jetée on their over The Matrix


Gah.
 
2017-10-06 01:41:57 PM  
Merltech:Also never did understand 2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968).  Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.

Yea it helps if you read the book 1st to fill in the blanks.
 
2017-10-06 01:42:57 PM  

mongbiohazard: Am I the only one who doesn't have a fark to give for the Blade Runner sequel?

The original is one of my all-time favorite films. But it getting a sequel after so many decades sounds like a horrendously lame cash-grab idea to me, and it didn't exactly beg for a sequel in the first place even when the movie was new.

And if they were going to do it, why not just leave Harrison Ford out of it? Have you seen him in ....well.... everything lately? He just sleepwalks through everything like he can't wait to go home. His days of good or even adequate performances are behind him. Having his character in there just is the most ham-handed way to utilize your nostalgia to get you to buy a ticket. It's supposed to be this future with humanity spread out to the stars and we need to see the same schmuck from the first movie in it? Just tell a story which has to do with the theme of what the difference between people and property is that the first one was about, and continue it that way.

Ugh...


Watched it last night.  Like you, I went in thinking that Blade Runner wasn't a film that really needed a sequel.

It didn't need a sequel, but they made one hell of a good one anyway.  Absolutely worth seeing on a big screen.  And definitely go for big sound too, as the movie has one of the most aggressive sound mixes I've ever heard.

And Harrison Ford delivers a really solid performance. Villeneuve gives him time to actually emote, and it's a pleasure to see him bring the A-game we haven't seen in a long time.
 
2017-10-06 01:49:44 PM  

harleyquinnical: List fails because Ghost In The Shell is what gave us The Matrix.


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2017-10-06 01:50:58 PM  

swahnhennessy: swahnhennessy: And I'd have La Jetée on their over The Matrix

Gah.


You were right the first time
 
2017-10-06 01:51:32 PM  

mongbiohazard: The original is one of my all-time favorite films. But it getting a sequel after so many decades sounds like a horrendously lame cash-grab idea to me, and it didn't exactly beg for a sequel in the first place even when the movie was new.
And if they were going to do it, why not just leave Harrison Ford out of it? Have you seen him in ....well.... everything lately? He just sleepwalks through everything like he can't wait to go home. His days of good or even adequate performances are behind him. Having his character in there just is the most ham-handed way to utilize your nostalgia to get you to buy a ticket. It's supposed to be this future with humanity spread out to the stars and we need to see the same schmuck from the first movie in it? Just tell a story which has to do with the theme of what the difference between people and property is that the first one was about, and continue it that way.
Ugh...


The guy on NPR was raving about it. Raving. I'm going to go check it out, and I'm not even a sci-fi fan really. I do like the first one. But unlike every other movie that's ever been ruined for me by remakes, I didn't see the first Blade Runner until about 10 years ago. So it doesn't mean much to me.
 
2017-10-06 01:52:42 PM  

mongbiohazard: mekkab: It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.

Overall Dark City was great, your friends were just wrong.


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IRT TFA, not a bad list overall for this kind of article.
 
2017-10-06 01:52:46 PM  

SuperChuck: swahnhennessy: swahnhennessy: And I'd have La Jetée on their over The Matrix

Gah.

You were right the first time


No, I wasn't. I merely highlighted my gaff from the first time.
 
2017-10-06 01:52:59 PM  

Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.


I HATE that.  What all of the 'serious' SF fans don't realize is that it's ALL fantasy, and even the hardest of
hard SF involves some sort of creative skirting of actual science.  But then again:  more than a few of them
think Libertarianism is a viable political philosophy, so you must forgive them their intellectual impairments.
 
2017-10-06 01:53:24 PM  
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2017-10-06 01:58:24 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Merltech: Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.

It's sci-fantasy

Also never did understand 2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968).  Watched a few minutes and grew bored with it.

Kubrick tried to "do it right" with 2001 by using what was thought to be future orbital platforms and the like. It was fascinating to see how the astronauts would live in outer space. The beginning is a bit slow but the story is really well done.

I'm glad they put in Mad Max. It is very different than the sequels, but it sets the tone. Having said that, I think A Boy and His Dog would have been a better post apocalyptic representative. That movie is fantastic.


2001 just had some very long scenes which could have been cut-down to save some time. Watching a guy EVA for 15 minutes or longer in the vacuum of space with long-view shots was tiring often. However if you could cut that down, I would think it would have been better. I liked it myself but yeah, getting through it was tough.

Assimilate This: List fails without Dark Star.


Saw that when I was pretty young and it was always a childhood favorite - not sure if it changed anything in sci-fi as it tends to borrow some concepts off other movies but it was a blast to watch. Not sure how ti holds up now, but it's a classic to me....

I also add Metropolis to the list, and maybe a few others.
 
2017-10-06 02:00:14 PM  

harleyquinnical: List fails because Ghost In The Shell is what gave us The Matrix.


You misspelled TRON
 
2017-10-06 02:01:06 PM  

give me doughnuts: Tarl3k: Hawk24: 1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 60 years old.......

49 is almost 60?

Yeah, that article needed an editor.  It's not Blade Runner 2047 either, it's 2049...

However, I agree with all the movies on the list...including and especially The Matrix.  As I read somewhere else, (paraphrasing) The Matrix set moviemaking ahead a decade, and the sequels set moviemaking back a decade...

FTA:
1. '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968)
The film is almost 50 years old, and it is a testament to Stanley Kubrick's absolute genius (and unending perfectionism) that there isn't a single visual in here that would be crude or out-of-place in a super-budgeted sci-fi film today. (Well, maybe the ape makeup.) Still, all these years later, the gold standard for special effects - and for movies that sends you out in a giddy state of wonder.

It quite plainly says "50" in the article.


The article has been edited from the original posting. "60" was indeed in the original text. Yet they neglected to correct 2047 to 2049 as of 1pm cst.
 
2017-10-06 02:01:59 PM  
List needs moar...

Metropolis
A Trip To The Moon
Alien
Silent Running
Close Encounters
Planet of the Apes
The Time Machine
Starship Troopers

/I might be joking on that last one
//Also, is Mad Max really sci-fi?
///If so, Godzilla for the slashies
 
2017-10-06 02:02:28 PM  

mongbiohazard: mekkab: It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.

Overall Dark City was great, your friends were just wrong.


I preferred the prime Jennifer Connolly look.
 
2017-10-06 02:24:46 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: List needs moar...

Metropolis
A Trip To The Moon
Alien
Silent Running
Close Encounters
Planet of the Apes
The Time Machine
Starship Troopers

/I might be joking on that last one
//Also, is Mad Max really sci-fi?
///If so, Godzilla for the slashies


But would Alien be sci fi, or horror in a futuristic setting?
 
2017-10-06 02:24:57 PM  

This text is now purple: mongbiohazard: mekkab: It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.

Overall Dark City was great, your friends were just wrong.

I preferred the prime Jennifer Connolly look.


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Bonus - NSFW
 
2017-10-06 02:27:07 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: List needs moar...

Metropolis
A Trip To The Moon


Was mentioned in the article.

Alien

Yeah, I'd think this one is in with a shout.  Yes, there were other horror based Sci-Fi films like "The Blob", "The Thing", et. al., "Alien" had something about it.

Silent Running
Close Encounters
Planet of the Apes


Seriously did not get the vibe from "Planet of the Apes" or it's many sequels/remakes.

The Time Machine
Starship Troopers

/I might be joking on that last one
//Also, is Mad Max really sci-fi?


Yeah, I don't think it's Sci-Fi to me.  Yes, it's a futuristic, dystopian story but there's no element of Sci-Fi to it.  It's more a story about the state of humanity in the wake of nuclear war.

///If so, Godzilla for the slashies

King Kong says, "THA FARK YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?!"
 
2017-10-06 02:30:03 PM  

Mugato: In before some neck beard cries that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi.


Interestingly, while it is sci-fantasy, it most definitely still changed the landscape of sci-fi.
 
2017-10-06 02:31:31 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This text is now purple: mongbiohazard: mekkab: It's funny, I loved Dark City but all my friends thought it was "meh."

Yet, they all loved the Matrix.  Maybe they just prefered the black pleather/vinyl look.

Overall Dark City was great, your friends were just wrong.

I preferred the prime Jennifer Connolly look.

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Bonus - NSFW


Jennifer Connelly - The Night Has A Thousand Eyes (Dark City OST)
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2017-10-06 02:32:14 PM  

Rwa2play: ///If so, Godzilla for the slashies

King Kong says, "THA FARK YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?!"


Kong was fantasy. Godzilla was science fiction.
 
2017-10-06 02:32:44 PM  

Rwa2play: It's more a story about the state of humanity in the wake of nuclear war.


That is science fiction.
 
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