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(Pro Football Talk)   Tampa Bay kicker on missing all 3 field goal tries: "This one's on me." Apparently he can't count either   ( profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line
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2017-10-06 09:16:14 AM  
56 and 49 yarders aren't gimmes, for sure. The 31? Yeah, that's definitely on him. Thing is none of 'em were even close.
 
2017-10-06 09:26:42 AM  
He might as well have cleaned out his locker on his way home from the game.
 
2017-10-06 09:49:12 AM  

John Buck 41: 56 and 49 yarders aren't gimmes, for sure. The 31? Yeah, that's definitely on him. Thing is none of 'em were even close.


That 56 yarder was so bad it missed the field.

Looking forward to our next terrible kicker though. That brief moment of hope when you get a new guy should be quickly erased when he misses a 22 yarder on his first attempt.
 
2017-10-06 09:52:28 AM  

Ethertap: John Buck 41: 56 and 49 yarders aren't gimmes, for sure. The 31? Yeah, that's definitely on him. Thing is none of 'em were even close.

That 56 yarder was so bad it missed the field.

Looking forward to our next terrible kicker though. That brief moment of hope when you get a new guy should be quickly erased when he misses a 22 yarder on his first attempt.


Chicago released a former second round pick/college star kicker just before the season started, he might be worth a try!
 
2017-10-06 09:53:55 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: Ethertap: John Buck 41: 56 and 49 yarders aren't gimmes, for sure. The 31? Yeah, that's definitely on him. Thing is none of 'em were even close.

That 56 yarder was so bad it missed the field.

Looking forward to our next terrible kicker though. That brief moment of hope when you get a new guy should be quickly erased when he misses a 22 yarder on his first attempt.

Chicago released a former second round pick/college star kicker just before the season started, he might be worth a try!


We already ruined his career, so it's only fitting we bring him back for the mercy kill.
 
2017-10-06 09:56:29 AM  
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2017-10-06 10:01:10 AM  
Maybe Robert Aguayo wasn't that bad after all.  Maybe Tampa is to kickers what Cleveland is to QBs.
 
2017-10-06 10:03:08 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: Ethertap: John Buck 41: 56 and 49 yarders aren't gimmes, for sure. The 31? Yeah, that's definitely on him. Thing is none of 'em were even close.

That 56 yarder was so bad it missed the field.

Looking forward to our next terrible kicker though. That brief moment of hope when you get a new guy should be quickly erased when he misses a 22 yarder on his first attempt.

Chicago released a former second round pick/college star kicker just before the season started, he might be worth a try!


They had Mike Nugent?
 
2017-10-06 10:08:56 AM  
Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.
 
2017-10-06 10:10:33 AM  

Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.


The holds looked fine last night
 
2017-10-06 10:11:31 AM  
Laces out!
 
2017-10-06 10:12:12 AM  
That was painful to watch.... by the time the third one was being set up I was telling myself "There's NO WAY he misses thi.... Oh shiat."
 
2017-10-06 10:12:14 AM  

abmoraz: Maybe Robert Aguayo wasn't that bad after all.  Maybe Tampa is to kickers what Cleveland is to QBs.


The Curse of Igwebuike
 
2017-10-06 10:12:23 AM  
Aguayo is available. If not him, then there's probably a good kicker available in the first round next year.

/remember vividly discussing the stupidity of that pick with people who insisted it was fine
 
2017-10-06 10:14:12 AM  
How stupid do you have to be to draft a kicker
 
2017-10-06 10:14:44 AM  

Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.


On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it
 
2017-10-06 10:15:14 AM  

Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.


God hates Tampa Bay?
 
2017-10-06 10:15:39 AM  
Before I clicked I thought it was an old story about Steven Hauschka.

He's definitely not the greatest NFL scorer of all time: Al Del Greco.
 
2017-10-06 10:17:03 AM  

Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.


Perhaps it's a faulty kicker picker.
 
2017-10-06 10:17:06 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.

On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it


yeah - the 31-yarder was all about him being in his own head. They showed one of the coaches talking to him after one of the misses (maybe that one?) - he's going to need to talk to a shrink or something
 
2017-10-06 10:20:45 AM  
Missed the game but took Tampa Bay (plus 4) and the under. Was not pleased this morning.
 
2017-10-06 10:20:51 AM  

skylabdown: That was painful to watch.... by the time the third one was being set up I was telling myself "There's NO WAY he misses thi.... Oh shiat."


It was painful.  I've never seen such an obvious case of the yips in football.  It's not like he isn't capable of making those kicks.  And yet they weren't just missed, they were shanked.

I wanted Tampa to lose, but I didn't enjoy watching a guy's career come to a screeching halt.
 
2017-10-06 10:21:40 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: He might as well have cleaned out his locker on his way home from the game.


I'd assumed by the time he got from the field to his locker the maintenance guy was  already replacing the name tag on the locker.
 
2017-10-06 10:24:47 AM  
I don't know what I'm talking about,  but isn't the precentage for field goals and extra points in 2016 well above 75%?  I'm not a big fan but is it time to make it a bit more difficult?
 
2017-10-06 10:25:37 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.

On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it


The 31-yarder looked like a give-me one. Just kick it straight through the uprights and make 3 points. Folk went and hooked it way too the left. That was some funky kicking mechanics there.
 
2017-10-06 10:26:02 AM  
As a Patriots fan, that was an ugly game to watch.  Solder looks slow and broken, more absolutely brainless penalties, some dropped passes, an overthrow.  Fortunately, the Bucs offense looked even worse.
 
2017-10-06 10:27:31 AM  
You can take the player from the JETS, but you can't take the JETS out of the player.
 
2017-10-06 10:29:00 AM  

Ker_Thwap: As a Patriots fan, that was an ugly game to watch.  Solder looks slow and broken, more absolutely brainless penalties, some dropped passes, an overthrow.  Fortunately, the Bucs offense looked even worse.


As I've said before, Solder is a prime candidate for JPP therapy. But with him, im pretty sure he could have no arms and STILL find a way to hold.
 
2017-10-06 10:30:02 AM  

FriarReb98: You can take the player from the JETS, but you can't take the JETS out of the player.


Folk was actually a pretty good kicker while he was on the Jets
 
2017-10-06 10:30:28 AM  
Kotter and Jameis are probably glad inside Folk took the pressure off their horrible games.
 
2017-10-06 10:30:39 AM  

WhyKnot: AdmirableSnackbar: He might as well have cleaned out his locker on his way home from the game.

I'd assumed by the time he got from the field to his locker the maintenance guy was  already replacing the name tag on the locker.


I was looking for the Turk after that missed chip shot to meet Folk out on the field to say "Coach wants to see you. Bring your playbook."
 
2017-10-06 10:32:15 AM  

eyeq360: Glockenspiel Hero: Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.

On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it

The 31-yarder looked like a give-me one. Just kick it straight through the uprights and make 3 points. Folk went and hooked it way too the left. That was some funky kicking mechanics there.


It was nice actually having Feely on the sidelines for it "See him pick up his toe on the kick? That's cause he picked up his head. No confidence in the kick as he makes it, he HAS to look early to watch it, which causes the left hook"

His own head is up his ass, and the former kicker can show it in slow-mo
 
2017-10-06 10:40:18 AM  

FriarReb98: You can take the player from the JETS, but you can't take the JETS out of the player.


As I understand it, once you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGJsv6ZNlo
 
2017-10-06 10:44:33 AM  
Poor guy.  It was probably Belichick putting magnets in the ball.  Right, haters?
 
2017-10-06 10:44:54 AM  
finally NFL kickers get the respect they deserve with an article about them on the main page at Fark! woohoo!

/jk
//move this to the sports tab
 
2017-10-06 10:45:16 AM  

skylabdown: That was painful to watch.... by the time the third one was being set up I was telling myself "There's NO WAY he misses thi.... Oh shiat."


I'm a Pats fan and felt bad enough for him that I genuinely wanted him to hit that one.
 
2017-10-06 10:46:31 AM  

xaks: eyeq360: Glockenspiel Hero: Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.

On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it

The 31-yarder looked like a give-me one. Just kick it straight through the uprights and make 3 points. Folk went and hooked it way too the left. That was some funky kicking mechanics there.

It was nice actually having Feely on the sidelines for it "See him pick up his toe on the kick? That's cause he picked up his head. No confidence in the kick as he makes it, he HAS to look early to watch it, which causes the left hook"

His own head is up his ass, and the former kicker can show it in slow-mo


The announcers were surprisingly non terrible last night.  It seems like half the announcers normal have a gift of being able to piss off fans of both teams.
 
2017-10-06 10:48:27 AM  

Callous: skylabdown: That was painful to watch.... by the time the third one was being set up I was telling myself "There's NO WAY he misses thi.... Oh shiat."

I'm a Pats fan and felt bad enough for him that I genuinely wanted him to hit that one.


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2017-10-06 10:51:11 AM  
Watching the game last night I felt bad for him. Glad he was awful so the Pats could eek out a win but that was painful to watch.
 
2017-10-06 10:53:13 AM  

Ker_Thwap: xaks: eyeq360: Glockenspiel Hero: Klivian: Is it possible that it's the holder/long snapper? If you keep putting new kickers in and there's still a problem, eventually you have to look for another cause.

On the missed 31-yarder they did a slow motion replay of the snap and hold.  Holder got it down clean, turned the laces away and held it correctly.  (Linked since NFL is prevented embeds)  Folk just completely miffed it

The 31-yarder looked like a give-me one. Just kick it straight through the uprights and make 3 points. Folk went and hooked it way too the left. That was some funky kicking mechanics there.

It was nice actually having Feely on the sidelines for it "See him pick up his toe on the kick? That's cause he picked up his head. No confidence in the kick as he makes it, he HAS to look early to watch it, which causes the left hook"

His own head is up his ass, and the former kicker can show it in slow-mo

The announcers were surprisingly non terrible last night.  It seems like half the announcers normal have a gift of being able to piss off fans of both teams.


Romo is a good announcer.
Thanks Dak.
Still hope he might make a comeback.
 
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2017-10-06 10:54:07 AM  
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2017-10-06 10:55:48 AM  
Bad coaching decisions there.  He'd already missed a few times in the prior game, and they KNOW what his real range is, so they NEVER should have sent him out there for the 56 yard attempt.  It was a guaranteed miss, and it likely influenced his concentration on the next one (also risky) and by the time he lined up for the 31 yarder he was a farking head case of nerves.  Yes, an NFL kicker should make a 31 yarder, but the coaches didn't help by making him try a 56 yarder that he was never going to make.
 
2017-10-06 10:59:57 AM  
Sports stories...on MY main page? It's more likely that you think...
 
2017-10-06 11:03:00 AM  

cefm: Bad coaching decisions there.  He'd already missed a few times in the prior game, and they KNOW what his real range is, so they NEVER should have sent him out there for the 56 yard attempt.  It was a guaranteed miss, and it likely influenced his concentration on the next one (also risky) and by the time he lined up for the 31 yarder he was a farking head case of nerves.  Yes, an NFL kicker should make a 31 yarder, but the coaches didn't help by making him try a 56 yarder that he was never going to make.


Is he an NFL kicker? Because I think NFL kickers are 26/37 on 50+ yard FG's this year. Dude should at least be able to make it look close.
 
2017-10-06 11:05:26 AM  

SuperChuck: FriarReb98: You can take the player from the JETS, but you can't take the JETS out of the player.

Folk was actually a pretty good kicker while he was on the Jets


Well with that offense he had a lot of practice....
 
2017-10-06 11:06:35 AM  
Well, just to play devil's advocate, at least he didn't have Lucy swipe the ball up as he attempted a kickoff.
 
2017-10-06 11:08:17 AM  

pearls before swine: skylabdown: That was painful to watch.... by the time the third one was being set up I was telling myself "There's NO WAY he misses thi.... Oh shiat."

It was painful.  I've never seen such an obvious case of the yips in football.  It's not like he isn't capable of making those kicks.  And yet they weren't just missed, they were shanked.

I wanted Tampa to lose, but I didn't enjoy watching a guy's career come to a screeching halt.


I feel for him too.  I really do.  But keeping your head about you is what makes you a good player.  In the NFL, even the lowly position of the kicker is still the best of the best.  Those dudes are generally 95%.  Short of a block, or high winds, they almost never miss.  No matter how much pressure they are under.

It happens so infrequently that when a kicker misses, everyone is shocked!

So you would be correct to assume that his entire career is in jeopardy.  Because if he can't keep his head straight on the 5th game of the season, in nice weather, what's going to happen when there is REAL pressure?
 
2017-10-06 11:09:52 AM  
Next year, Vinatieri is a UFA. Just wait and dump a garbage truck of money on him. He break whatever kicker curse the bucs have.
 
2017-10-06 11:11:07 AM  

cefm: Bad coaching decisions there.  He'd already missed a few times in the prior game, and they KNOW what his real range is


In the pregame show they lamenting that he looked really good in warm-ups, maybe the prior game was a fluke, wet ball, blah blah.

It wouldn't even have mattered if the Bucs offense could actually score more touchdowns. They lost not because of their crappy kicker but because they couldn't score on their own merit.
 
2017-10-06 11:11:51 AM  

AquaTatanka: How stupid do you have to be to draft a kicker


If it's a once-in-a-generation guy, I can see spending a 6th rounder on him. Or just wait for a team to get pissed that an awesome kicker missed a key field goal and sign him for just over the veteran minimum. Whatever.
 
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