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2017-10-06 01:49:29 PM  

Ned Stark: Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.


Ned Stark: i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea
 
2017-10-06 01:54:51 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Do you suspect that a lot of people who arent in mixed race relationships face racial abuse based on their mixed relationships(which they don't have)? Because I'm pretty sure actually being in an interracial relationship will have an impact on how often that happens.

Isn't that the point I just made, and that the study alluded to? That there will be problems in mixed-race relationships suffer tension borne from societal attitudes and treatment? At least, I think it is because those two sentences barely made any sense. 

Howzat? I've never abused a mixed race couple in my life. Why would I?

Abuse was never mentioned. Attitude was. You [and that's the general 'you', not the specific) can still make life hard for a mixed couple without putting on a white hood. When people say "there're still certain attitudes and views that cause issues for mixed-race couples", and you say "Exactly! That's why I don't condone those relationships at all", that should be a point where you (that's the specific 'you' this time, not the general) badly need to be taught about the concept of 'self-fulfilling prophecy'.

I absolutely condone interracial realationships. Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.

Shouldn't you be busy reading that study that you linked to, and apologizing for posting that infographic?


I just read that study. Wow, that infographic is some of the worst cherry picking bullshiat data interpretation I've seen in a long time, and I've seen some shiat. That study didn't even remotely conclude what that infographic is supposedly "proving". The yellow people is a nice racist touch too
 
2017-10-06 01:55:10 PM  

skyotter: Ned Stark: Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.

Ned Stark: i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea


You do grasp that an unnessecary risk isn't a moral or ethical failure, right?
 
2017-10-06 01:59:49 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Farker Soze: Boxingoutsider: Cubicle Jockey: Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.

Its real talk.  Come volunteer if you doubt me.  We need more people, even squares.

Are you a pimp? You know, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

Hahaha.   White boys in general dont make good pimps.   No.  I just mentor at risk kids from really challenging backgrounds.


Do you show them Milo's videos? Do you mentor them to grow up like him?
 
2017-10-06 02:01:48 PM  

Ned Stark: thorpe: Ker_Thwap: Ned Stark: I mean, in that particular study the WM/BF result was an exception to the trend. The later larger sample size study that "debuked" it found higher rates.

In fact, heres a side by side. Errr... over under.

Someone made an infographic with no link to an actual study.

Ned's just here to derail another thread with endless posts of aw-shucks racism. It's his trick.

Dont blame me, HotWingConspiracybrought it up.


I didn't bring up any names, you outed yourself.
 
2017-10-06 02:05:11 PM  

skyotter: Ned Stark: Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.

Ned Stark: i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea


Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
 
2017-10-06 02:05:28 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Ned Stark: thorpe: Ker_Thwap: Ned Stark: I mean, in that particular study the WM/BF result was an exception to the trend. The later larger sample size study that "debuked" it found higher rates.

In fact, heres a side by side. Errr... over under.

Someone made an infographic with no link to an actual study.

Ned's just here to derail another thread with endless posts of aw-shucks racism. It's his trick.

Dont blame me, HotWingConspiracybrought it up.

I didn't bring up any names, you outed yourself.


And BTW, you're here citing "studies" and posting infographics to buttress your...opinion, so "(people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)" has you 100% pegged.
 
2017-10-06 02:10:45 PM  

Felgraf: willfullyobscure: Yep. There's a big ol' Nazi. Oh yeah. lmao

[img.fark.net image 654x459]

You know there were gay nazis the *first* time around, right? That helped Hitler rise to power?
(It didn't end well for them, and Hitler farked them over, but they existed.)

"Lol he's gay so he can't be a Nazi!" is, you know, like, historically inaccurate.


Ernst Rohm, Josef Goebbels and Herman Goering among the moist noteable
 
2017-10-06 02:12:13 PM  
This thread reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Homer meets a gay man named Milo, and Homer begins to worry that his son (Bart) is becoming a member of the hated alt-right.

So like, for example, there's a hilarious scene halfway through the episode, where Homer's wife (Marge) buys Bart "both kinds of hats", a red baseball cap and a black fedora, and Homer agonizes as his son takes and puts on the fedora.

And then, at the end of the episode, Homer takes Bart to a protest by the violent left, to try and convince the kid that leftist indoctrination is okay.  But then the left shockingly attacks Homer, until Milo fires into the crowd with the nerf gun that shoots bars of soap.

Homer learns from the error of his ways and Bart embraces Nazism.  Later episodes of the series reference back to this episode, including jokes that reference "President Trump", and a scene in which "no one who speaks German could be an evil man".

I mean, people like to say that FOX News is fair and balanced, but you can see that The Simpsons was really the show that helped FOX figure it all out.
 
2017-10-06 02:12:56 PM  

Ned Stark: I absolutely condone interracial realationships. Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.


I'll start off by saying that this part is in no way an attack - but you don't 'absolutely' condone them, given you advise people to stay out of them because you believe they're doomed to fail. You accept them, but maintain it's a bad idea. And that's part of the point.

So let's recap (because this has been a very long thread).  As far as I understand from the posts you've made in the thread, you advise against mixed-race relationships because of a high divorce rate that means, to you, that they're doomed failure through tensions that arise because of different ethnic backgrounds. Then you're told that a suggested theory was that the divorces weren't so much backgrounds of the couple so much as the external influences that range from outright racism, to smaller scales of discrimination and social acceptance and influence and don't quite understand why anyone would think your attitude plays into this - especially the last part about social influence. 

It doesn't make you a racist (well, unless you insist the divorces can only be because of irreconcilable differences between races in the face of more likely theories put forward by the folk that actively study these things), and that's not what I'm accusing you of being. But I am saying that by telling people that interracial relationships are a thing to be avoided, you're contributing to the smaller factors that put pressure on those relationships in the first place. You help create the very situation you warn people about. You might not mean to. You might never have wanted to. But it's what you're doing.
 
2017-10-06 02:14:03 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: HotWingConspiracy: Ned Stark: thorpe: Ker_Thwap: Ned Stark: I mean, in that particular study the WM/BF result was an exception to the trend. The later larger sample size study that "debuked" it found higher rates.

In fact, heres a side by side. Errr... over under.

Someone made an infographic with no link to an actual study.

Ned's just here to derail another thread with endless posts of aw-shucks racism. It's his trick.

Dont blame me, HotWingConspiracybrought it up.

I didn't bring up any names, you outed yourself.

And BTW, you're here citing "studies" and posting infographics to buttress your...opinion, so "(people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)" has you 100% pegged.


Acknowledging that interracial relationships tend to face a higher rate of failure hardly amounts to a desire to start loading up the cattle cars so everyone can be sorted into separate racial enclaves. And 'scientific reasons' implies some sort of biological purity scheme, which is some first rate horse shiat.
 
2017-10-06 02:17:12 PM  

Nezorf: Ker_Thwap: Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Do you suspect that a lot of people who arent in mixed race relationships face racial abuse based on their mixed relationships(which they don't have)? Because I'm pretty sure actually being in an interracial relationship will have an impact on how often that happens.

Isn't that the point I just made, and that the study alluded to? That there will be problems in mixed-race relationships suffer tension borne from societal attitudes and treatment? At least, I think it is because those two sentences barely made any sense. 

Howzat? I've never abused a mixed race couple in my life. Why would I?

Abuse was never mentioned. Attitude was. You [and that's the general 'you', not the specific) can still make life hard for a mixed couple without putting on a white hood. When people say "there're still certain attitudes and views that cause issues for mixed-race couples", and you say "Exactly! That's why I don't condone those relationships at all", that should be a point where you (that's the specific 'you' this time, not the general) badly need to be taught about the concept of 'self-fulfilling prophecy'.

I absolutely condone interracial realationships. Not once have I ever claimed that being involved in one was wrong in any way.

Shouldn't you be busy reading that study that you linked to, and apologizing for posting that infographic?

I just read that study. Wow, that infographic is some of the worst cherry picking bullshiat data interpretation I've seen in a long time, and I've seen some shiat. That study didn't even remotely conclude what that infographic is supposedly "proving". The yellow people is a nice racist touch too


I was a math major with a concentration in statistics.  That kind of crap makes me twitchy.
 
2017-10-06 02:17:37 PM  

Mike_LowELL: This thread reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Homer meets a gay man named Milo, and Homer begins to worry that his son (Bart) is becoming a member of the hated alt-right.

So like, for example, there's a hilarious scene halfway through the episode, where Homer's wife (Marge) buys Bart "both kinds of hats", a red baseball cap and a black fedora, and Homer agonizes as his son takes and puts on the fedora.

And then, at the end of the episode, Homer takes Bart to a protest by the violent left, to try and convince the kid that leftist indoctrination is okay.  But then the left shockingly attacks Homer, until Milo fires into the crowd with the nerf gun that shoots bars of soap.

Homer learns from the error of his ways and Bart embraces Nazism.  Later episodes of the series reference back to this episode, including jokes that reference "President Trump", and a scene in which "no one who speaks German could be an evil man".

I mean, people like to say that FOX News is fair and balanced, but you can see that The Simpsons was really the show that helped FOX figure it all out.


If only some one can hack into Homer's emails and share them with Buzzfeed. Then we will have all the proof.
 
2017-10-06 02:20:50 PM  

Sin'sHero: If only some one can hack into Homer's emails and share them with Buzzfeed. Then we will have all the proof.


I have a suspicion that Homer is actually the fake news peddler named "Mr. X".  According to this guy, whoever it is, they're trying to control our minds with flu shots.

After all, it's why they always give them right before the Holiday season, to get you sheeple out into the stores.
 
2017-10-06 02:22:08 PM  

Ned Stark: Do you suspect that a lot of people who arent in mixed race relationships face racial abuse based on their mixed relationships(which they don't have)? Because I'm pretty sure actually being in an interracial relationship will have an impact on how often that happens.


Aw, shucks. Thanks for the "moderate intensity dating advice", Uncle Thurmond.
 
2017-10-06 02:24:13 PM  

PanicMan: Boxingoutsider: Farker Soze: Boxingoutsider: Cubicle Jockey: Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.

Its real talk.  Come volunteer if you doubt me.  We need more people, even squares.

Are you a pimp? You know, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

Hahaha.   White boys in general dont make good pimps.   No.  I just mentor at risk kids from really challenging backgrounds.

Do you show them Milo's videos? Do you mentor them to grow up like him?


Also, I work with a mental health organization.
The things you joke about are people suffering trauma.  Microagressions aboslutely hurt people, especially vulnerable groups. And safe spaces save lives. Literally.
 
2017-10-06 02:24:44 PM  
Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.
 
2017-10-06 02:24:46 PM  

Magorn: And your example is a wonderful evocation of what makes the alt-right tick:
"If I don't agree with your desire to identify as a"

So who the fark ASKED you to "agree"/approve/or otherwise sign off on SOMEONE ELSE's decisions? ALL you are asked to do is not be a dick


Now you've done it. You're infringin' his consitootional right to be a dick.
 
2017-10-06 02:26:32 PM  

Rapmaster2000: No, see, he's just a brilliant provocateur.  He's playing devil's advocate to show you libs how much you hate free speech.  When he says Nazi things, it's because he's being hilariously and irreverently ironic.

Just because Milo's legions of fans are not being ironic and are, in fact, being quite literal with respect to establishing an ethno-nationalist state isn't an indictment of Milo himself.

He's simply being ironic.  It's like that time I ironically pushed an old woman down the stairs.  Sure, she got hurt really bad, but I was only joking when I did it.


There's such a fine line between being a brilliant provocateur and a stupid asshole.
 
2017-10-06 02:28:20 PM  

goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.


I should add that he not only wasn't trying to discourage me, he was actively telling me she was the one. He was worried I would fark it up and lose her. Thankfully, I didn't and she still hasn't thrown me outta her life. 13 years together and haven't missed a beat.
 
2017-10-06 02:28:44 PM  

peasandcarrots: Horizon: You know, there is a certain grim and morbid satisfaction from the knowledge that if these fascist farks truly took over, they'd stick farking Milo in a gas chamber too. His last words that he'd squeal out as they sealed the door would be "wait, I'm one of you, I thought we were friends!" I wonder if he even realizes that or if he's so far up his own ass he's blind to it

I'll probably wade into the poop with this assertion, but I have a feeling that when Milo says he's disavowed racism, I believe him. It is genuinely possible that he really thought he was just being funny and edgy and provoking and making big jokes without being aware that that gives shelter to people who mean it. We must know a thousand people like him; twelve year old mindsets who get off on pissing off the grownups. He just never outgrew it.

Think about that kid you knew in Junior High with the swastikas all over his Trapper Keeper. He wasn't making a political statement; his goal was to freak out the teachers. Now imagine he's making a thousand bucks per swastika. That's our man Milo.


If you believe Milo, I have some swampland to sell you.
 
2017-10-06 02:29:10 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: you advise people to stay out of them because you believe they're doomed to fail.


No, I don't believe that. Stop turning the intensity of things to 11inside your own head and then blaming me for the resultant nonsense.

you advise against mixed-race relationships because of a high divorce rate
sure
that means, to you, that they're doomed failure
See above.
tensions that arise because of different ethnic backgrounds.
Alright, we're back together here.
Then you're told that a suggested theory was that the divorces weren't so much backgrounds of the couple so much as the external influences that range from outright racism, to smaller scales of discrimination and social acceptance
I happily agree that, yeah, that seems like another reason you could end up having a bad time.
and influence and don't quite understand why anyone would think your attitude plays into this - especially the last part about social influence.
It doesn't make you a racist (well, unless you insist the divorces can only be because of irreconcilable differences between races in the face of more likely theories put forward by the folk that actively study these things), and that's not what I'm accusing you of being. But I am saying that by telling people that interracial relationships are a thing to be avoided, you're contributing to the smaller factors that put pressure on those relationships in the first place. You help create the very situation you warn people about. You might not mean to. You might never have wanted to. But it's what you're doing.


People simply aren't the fragile little glass statues you're imagining them to be here. No one is ending their marriage because someone somewhere is aware of a demographic fact that suggests the marriage is 20% more likely to fail. They've got real problems to deal with.
 
2017-10-06 02:29:28 PM  

mrshowrules: There's such a fine line between being a brilliant provocateur and a stupid asshole.


*bats eyelashes*
 
2017-10-06 02:30:16 PM  

Boxingoutsider: I'm saying "no, youre a dude who thinks hes different things on different days. Youre not a woman, a dragon, a wolf, or an attack helicopter" and that doenst make me trans phobic.


Purposely stepping in dog shiat and then walking into and around a reatuarant doesn't make you a dick. You're not the problem. It's those people who say you ruined their meal.
 
2017-10-06 02:30:29 PM  
Came here for Snuffleupagus, and a conversation chastising OP for the misspell. Leaving pissed.
 
2017-10-06 02:31:59 PM  

Ker_Thwap: whitroth: Ed Grubermann: Prank Call of Cthulhu: For some reason the Venn diagram of "likes Nazis," "takes video games way too seriously," "enjoys functional programming," "wears fedoras and describes self as a 'nice guy'," "can't get laid," "hates women" is pretty large.

Trilbies. They wear trilbies.
[img.fark.net image 850x664]

Thank you. You missed one, though[www.indygear.com image 295x325]

Be attractive, don't be unattractive.  Got it.


No, you don't have it. You can tell the Bad Guys by the hat....
 
2017-10-06 02:33:01 PM  
Milo sure has a lot of fans on fark, doesn't he?
 
2017-10-06 02:37:04 PM  

goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.


It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"
 
2017-10-06 02:38:41 PM  

whitroth: Ker_Thwap: whitroth: Ed Grubermann: Prank Call of Cthulhu: For some reason the Venn diagram of "likes Nazis," "takes video games way too seriously," "enjoys functional programming," "wears fedoras and describes self as a 'nice guy'," "can't get laid," "hates women" is pretty large.

Trilbies. They wear trilbies.
[img.fark.net image 850x664]

Thank you. You missed one, though[www.indygear.com image 295x325]

Be attractive, don't be unattractive.  Got it.

No, you don't have it. You can tell the Bad Guys by the hat....


s1.ticketm.netView Full Size
 
2017-10-06 02:43:26 PM  

PanicMan: Also, I work with a mental health organization.
The things you joke about are people suffering trauma.  Microagressions aboslutely hurt people, especially vulnerable groups. And safe spaces save lives. Literally.


I used to laugh about safe spaces in the early days - until I actually met folk they had saved. Funnily enough, I met them after getting denied entry to a safe space. I dated a bisexual girl who went to one of the local Stonewall support groups - I accompanied her there one time and got refused entry. So I'm left outside, grumbling to myself when one of the kids (oh sweet Jebus, I'm old enough to say they were kids now) comes out for a smoke break and we start chatting. 
Turned out he'd attempted suicide twice because of the harassment he'd been getting since he came out, and it was only because of the group that he'd not attempted it a third time. Having somewhere where he absolutely knew he didn't have to worry about anyone attacking him because of who and what he was, and getting the support from people who could relate to his experience in a way I never could saved his life. 

I met the rest of the group over the weeks, and I learned their stories. And that's about the point when I stopped being resentful when they all disappeared into the building without me and understood why they needed a safe space.
 
2017-10-06 02:50:21 PM  

Ned Stark: goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.

It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"


So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference. This doesn't mean that on some sort of cellular level, the amount of melanin in our skins, if different, causes some sort of strange magnetic anti-attraction. It isn't biological at all, but rather entirely a social impediment. Again, not trying to speak for you, but I hope that's what you were getting at Ned.
 
2017-10-06 02:51:01 PM  

kobrakai: malapriapism: This thread is very useful for marking certain people in bright red. When I refreshed, the page looks like a peppermint stick. Buzzfeed must be onto something for the neckbeard troll brigade to roll out from under their bridges before noon.

You rang?
[img.fark.net image 480x480]


Oh, look, another edgelord with an 'infidel' tattoo. Don't cut yourself, bro.
 
2017-10-06 02:51:03 PM  

thorpe: Milo sure has a lot of fans on fark, doesn't he?


Or rather, the suckers for the Mercer's money that *owns* Milo. But, of course, we know that billionaires only have our best interests at heart....
 
2017-10-06 02:51:17 PM  
Since when does buzzfeed post articles that read like actual attempts at journalism?
 
2017-10-06 03:00:06 PM  

goat012006: So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference.


I was going to mock your subservient attitude, but then I realized "take all the blame for everything" is actually the only way to make a marriage to ANY woman work.
 
2017-10-06 03:01:17 PM  

Cbillrun: Lol you libs are absolute fascists nuts. Pot calling kettle black. What a lot of nothing in this long winded article. Once again I am deeply embarrassed for anyone who believes Milo is a racist or nazi. Sad


He may not be one but, he sure plays one on TV.  Willingly.
 
2017-10-06 03:02:23 PM  

goat012006: Ned Stark: goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.

It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"

So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference. This doesn't mean that on some sort of cellular level, the amount of melanin in our skins, if different, causes some sort of strange magnetic anti-attraction. It isn't biological at all, but rather entirely a social impediment. Again, not trying to speak for you, but I hope that's what you were getting at Ned.


Speaking as someone who was in an interracial/international marriage for over a decade, it is a "we" problem, and not a "me" problem. If both sides can't compromise over cultural differences, bad things happen. But that is the same in all marriages. If you can't compromise with each other, it is going to fail. Our marriage didn't fail because we were from different countries or of different races. It failed because we both wanted different things from a marriage and couldn't find a middle ground.
 
2017-10-06 03:03:17 PM  
Ned Stark: No, I don't believe that. Stop turning the intensity of things to 11inside your own head and then blaming me for the resultant nonsense.

Okay, so you're apparently warning people off because of a 20% chance of failure in marriage, based on a cherry-picked portion of a study that's increasingly irrelevant as said relationships become more common and marriage less so. The point here is that you're still advocating for avoidance of mixed-race coupling based on a faulty premise.

People simply aren't the fragile little glass statues you're imagining them to be here. No one is ending their marriage because someone somewhere is aware of a demographic fact that suggests the marriage is 20% more likely to fail. They've got real problems to deal with.

No, they aren't so fragile as to crumble under one person telling everyone to avoid the relationships because they're more likely to fail. And I never said that was the case. But when you have multiple people saying that, amongst everything else - the higher prevalence of firsthand racism, hostilities from families and other groups, harassment of their children for being mixed-race; it's placing another straw on the proverbial dromedary's back. If everyone is telling you your relationship won't succeed for various reasons, guess what happens? 

One person is easy to ignore. A whole society is nigh-impossible to.  

It's almost as if you're missing the point on purpose.
 
2017-10-06 03:06:03 PM  

goat012006: Ned Stark: goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.

It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"

So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference. This doesn't mean that on some sort of cellular level, the amount of melanin in our skins, if different, causes some sort of strange magnetic anti-attraction. It isn't biological at all, but rather entirely a social impediment. Again, not trying to speak for you, but I hope that's what you were getting at Ned.


Ive disavowed the importance of biology a couple times here, though I don't blame you for not going through with a fine toothed comb. It was only ever a social issue.

Like I said back when talking to some guy in a waistcoat when we were talking about racist abuse and exclusion impacting relationships, assigning specific blame is interesting but not especially relevant. Be it because the different experiences you've faced put you too far apart on some point of understanding, because your relationship couldn't stand up to never being invited over by family again, or because your own privilege blinded you to something important to your partner, the end result is the same: you sifting through the weckage.and Those are all risks you wouldn't face otherwise.

Does it mean no one should ever be in an interracial relationship? No. Does it mean all of them are doomed? No. Does it mean people who are in such relationships deserve to be judged? No.
 
2017-10-06 03:06:20 PM  

Mike_LowELL: mrshowrules: There's such a fine line between being a brilliant provocateur and a stupid asshole.

*bats eyelashes*


Some people ride that line like Seabiscuit.
 
2017-10-06 03:12:09 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: No, I don't believe that. Stop turning the intensity of things to 11inside your own head and then blaming me for the resultant nonsense.

Okay, so you're apparently warning people off because of a 20% chance of failure in marriage, based on a cherry-picked portion of a study that's increasingly irrelevant as said relationships become more common and marriage less so. The point here is that you're still advocating for avoidance of mixed-race coupling based on a faulty premise.

People simply aren't the fragile little glass statues you're imagining them to be here. No one is ending their marriage because someone somewhere is aware of a demographic fact that suggests the marriage is 20% more likely to fail. They've got real problems to deal with.

No, they aren't so fragile as to crumble under one person telling everyone to avoid the relationships because they're more likely to fail. And I never said that was the case. But when you have multiple people saying that, amongst everything else - the higher prevalence of firsthand racism, hostilities from families and other groups, harassment of their children for being mixed-race; it's placing another straw on the proverbial dromedary's back. If everyone is telling you your relationship won't succeed for various reasons, guess what happens? 

One person is easy to ignore. A whole society is nigh-impossible to.  

It's almost as if you're missing the point on purpose.


I don't offer people random unsolicited dating advice. This started many threads back because someone asked. It's here in this thread because other people danced around it with clever allusions and I spoke up in my own defense.
 
2017-10-06 03:14:28 PM  

cybrwzrd: goat012006: Ned Stark: goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.

It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"

So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference. This doesn't mean that on some sort of cellular level, the amount of melanin in our skins, if different, causes some sort of strange magnetic anti-attraction. It isn't biological at all, but rather entirely a social impediment. Again, not trying to speak for you, but I hope that's what you were getting at Ned.

Speaking as someone who was in an interracial/international marriage for over a decade, it is a "we" problem, and not a "me" problem. If both sides can't compromise over cultural differences, bad things happen. But that is the same in all marriages. If you can't compromise with each other, it is going to fail. Our marriage didn't fail because we were from different countries or of different races. It failed because we both wanted different things from a marriage and couldn't find a middle ground.


No doubt. My marriage (sorry, not trying to rub it in Haha) is 10 years strong and showing no signs of abating. We get along swimmingly.

I guess I was clumsily trying to put myself in Ned Stark's head to see if I could better frame what he was trying to say. I think. I agree that a successful marriage absolutely a WE thing not a ME thing. At this point we've become so fluid in our interactions with each other that we are almost fully in sync as far any cultural differences might go.

I still can't touch her hair after she comes home from the hairdresser though. Or hardly ever really lol. That's how a dude gets slapped. And NO, being married to a black lady does NOT mean I'm one of THOSE white guys that thinks they've earned the right to use the N word and bust a sag. Matter of fact I am the opposite of that guy. Everyone tells me I look and dress like a cop, even though I work with information systems haha.
 
2017-10-06 03:16:42 PM  

Magnanimous_J: goat012006: So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference.

I was going to mock your subservient attitude, but then I realized "take all the blame for everything" is actually the only way to make a marriage to ANY woman work.


This guy gets it
 
2017-10-06 03:16:52 PM  

mainsail: sardonicobserver: I'm turned off by these partisan blogs attacking each other.

/My BS can beat up your BS -- No it can't --  Yes it can
//It's all BS

Which can be a point of all these- if you get turned off on politics and don't participate, they have fewer people to control. More power for less work.


True.  But a two-way radio is more useful if it has a squelch circuit that shuts off the sound when there is nothing but white noise out there.
 
2017-10-06 03:18:18 PM  

CheatCommando: sardonicobserver: I'm turned off by these partisan blogs attacking each other.

/My BS can beat up your BS -- No it can't --  Yes it can
//It's all BS

I'd cash the check before it bounces, товарищ .


И ваша точка. , ,
 
2017-10-06 03:19:51 PM  

Ned Stark: goat012006: Ned Stark: goat012006: Dang It Ned. You've backed yourself into a corner here. I feel for ya.

My dad told me, when I introduced him to my black girlfriend (later to be wife) that I should be mindful of the pitfalls of interracial relationships. He wasn't saying don't do it, he wasn't trying to discourage me (matter of fact he elbowed me in the ribs and said she was hot lol). He was matter of factly pointing out to be mindful of how I behave, respond, and talk within the frame of our relationship. He knew that since I could NEVER EVER fully relate to her experience as a black woman in America, that I was in peril of stumbling over my own whiteness, as it were, and farking it up.

Is that what you've been trying to say? Because, love ya buddy, but you've done a shiat job lol.

It's a hell of a lot closer than "hurr, physically separate all races in the name of science"

So it's more about, as a white guy, being aware that my frame of mind as a white, straight, male in America I am going to be unable to (at times) comprehend and relate to my wife's reality at times.

But that is inherently a ME problem, not a HER problem, ya get me? The fact that some interracial marriages can't get over that hump is, at least in my opinion, indicative of our (white) America's inability to see beyond our own frame of reference. This doesn't mean that on some sort of cellular level, the amount of melanin in our skins, if different, causes some sort of strange magnetic anti-attraction. It isn't biological at all, but rather entirely a social impediment. Again, not trying to speak for you, but I hope that's what you were getting at Ned.

Ive disavowed the importance of biology a couple times here, though I don't blame you for not going through with a fine toothed comb. It was only ever a social issue.

Like I said back when talking to some guy in a waistcoat when we were talking about racist abuse and exclusion impacting relationships, assigning specific blame is interesting but not especially relevant. Be it because the different experiences you've faced put you too far apart on some point of understanding, because your relationship couldn't stand up to never being invited over by family again, or because your own privilege blinded you to something important to your partner, the end result is the same: you sifting through the weckage.and Those are all risks you wouldn't face otherwise.

Does it mean no one should ever be in an interracial relationship? No. Does it mean all of them are doomed? No. Does it mean people who are in such relationships deserve to be judged? No.


Ok. Yeah. I can live with that. I don't think it is as strong as you believe it is coming from my experience, but I think I see what you are trying to say.

The infographic thing was a bit tone deaf though. C'mon you gotta own that lol.
 
2017-10-06 03:23:51 PM  
Jesus....almost 500 comments in Ned. I blame you.
 
2017-10-06 03:24:09 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: PanicMan: Also, I work with a mental health organization.
The things you joke about are people suffering trauma.  Microagressions aboslutely hurt people, especially vulnerable groups. And safe spaces save lives. Literally.

I used to laugh about safe spaces in the early days - until I actually met folk they had saved. Funnily enough, I met them after getting denied entry to a safe space. I dated a bisexual girl who went to one of the local Stonewall support groups - I accompanied her there one time and got refused entry. So I'm left outside, grumbling to myself when one of the kids (oh sweet Jebus, I'm old enough to say they were kids now) comes out for a smoke break and we start chatting. 
Turned out he'd attempted suicide twice because of the harassment he'd been getting since he came out, and it was only because of the group that he'd not attempted it a third time. Having somewhere where he absolutely knew he didn't have to worry about anyone attacking him because of who and what he was, and getting the support from people who could relate to his experience in a way I never could saved his life. 

I met the rest of the group over the weeks, and I learned their stories. And that's about the point when I stopped being resentful when they all disappeared into the building without me and understood why they needed a safe space.


Valuable insight. Thank you.
 
2017-10-06 03:25:29 PM  

al's hat: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: PanicMan: Also, I work with a mental health organization.
The things you joke about are people suffering trauma.  Microagressions aboslutely hurt people, especially vulnerable groups. And safe spaces save lives. Literally.

I used to laugh about safe spaces in the early days - until I actually met folk they had saved. Funnily enough, I met them after getting denied entry to a safe space. I dated a bisexual girl who went to one of the local Stonewall support groups - I accompanied her there one time and got refused entry. So I'm left outside, grumbling to myself when one of the kids (oh sweet Jebus, I'm old enough to say they were kids now) comes out for a smoke break and we start chatting. 
Turned out he'd attempted suicide twice because of the harassment he'd been getting since he came out, and it was only because of the group that he'd not attempted it a third time. Having somewhere where he absolutely knew he didn't have to worry about anyone attacking him because of who and what he was, and getting the support from people who could relate to his experience in a way I never could saved his life. 

I met the rest of the group over the weeks, and I learned their stories. And that's about the point when I stopped being resentful when they all disappeared into the building without me and understood why they needed a safe space.

Valuable insight. Thank you.


Was just going to say it, you beat me to it. Touching, insightful, and spot the fark on. I like the cut of your jib good sir.
 
2017-10-06 03:26:02 PM  
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Just look at that sorry excuse for human beings.  My god it's the epitome of douchenozzels.
 
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