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2017-10-06 12:17:12 PM  

WDFark think for a second: Wow. Lotta neck beards with Russian paychecks in here.

/You aren't fooling anyone.


I am not a neckbeard.
 
2017-10-06 12:17:15 PM  

Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.


I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi
 
2017-10-06 12:17:30 PM  

Lady J: goat012006: Lady J: goat012006: Rapmaster2000: Lady J: Ned Stark: Lady J: Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?

What's youir thoughts on Muslims? Just generally.

They're largly caught up in a really ugly cultural/religious complex at the moment. I expect the situation to start improving slowly but steadily once the Saudis get what's coming to them.

In relevant practical terms, I think Europe should be less eager to let a bunch of them into their countries but more proactive about helping "on site". US policy is fine.

why?

Because it's a them.  You have to keep away from them.  There's always a them.

I will say this. I have family in Europe, and they are telling me of some of the problems arising. I have NO doubt that some of those problems are manufactured. You have a somewhat homogenous population all of a sudden encountering people who not only don't look like them, but are culturally COMPLETELY different.

That being said....they'll get over it. I have a theory. Europe isn't any more or less racist than America except when it comes to gypsies. Why? ...

Not where you're getting horror from. You said 'problems arising'... what problems are they exactly. Shouldnt be too hard to outline what you mean.

And Europe is a large and diverse place, so I'm interested in whether you mean Ibiza Town, or Florence, or London, or La Rochelle. Or Warsaw. Again, shouldnt be a difficult question to answer.


....you are skillfully avoiding where I said that most of those problems are manufactured Lady J. Most of them boil down to "Muslim brownish person now talks Muslim brown talk in my German town". Which is why I theorize that it has something to do with the DNA memory of Muslim incursions into Europe. We are really making way too much out of it at this point if you ask me.

Here's what it boils down to. I posit that much of the bellyaching in Europe may have something to do with the fact that Europeans really don't trust Muslims because the Ottoman invasions left such an imprint on the collective memory of Europe that they haven't let go to this day. Do you agree? If not, why?
 
2017-10-06 12:18:26 PM  

Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Huggermugger: Ned Stark: All trends have their exceptions, and yeah that is one I knew about.

/Maybe this data just means white women mudsharks are hard to like with
//That's stolen

Isn't that the term you people usually use?  At least in private conversation and on alt-right message boards.

That doesn't call back to the higher imaginary WM/WF divorce rate and really seems more like genuine ragey misogyny than a tongue in cheek joke. Probably wouldn't have stolen that version.

FTFY. We already covered how the original study asserting higher divorce rates in mixed marriages was shown to be flawed, and following studies showed greater parity between mixed and same race/ethnicity.

What, exactly, is mixed about a WM/WF marriage?

I'll cop to it - that mistake is entirely on me. I was still thinking about the original the original argument you were going for for most of this thread about the reason for not dating outside your race as because the divorce rates show they're absolutely doomed to fail. 

So... wait. Are you claiming that it's the other way around now?

No? Chase this quote line back to the top. It starts with some guy pointing out that one study found a lower divorce rate for WM/BF than for WM/WF relationships. I agreed that every trend has it's exceptions and that I had seen the same data myself, then shared a quip someone posted the last time we talked about that study(for indeed, everything has happened before.) After that it's just huggermugger doing some dumb ftfy shiat and me explaining why what he said is nonsensical.


Damn, first you downgrade me from proper noun status when talking to other people and now you refer to me as a different party entirely. That's cold, Ned. What did I ever do to you?

So, to get on the same page - are you saying that study is an exception to the normal trends where mixed marriages have a more or less similar divorce rate to any other, or the debunked trend for mixed marriages to have a disproportionately higher divorce rate from your original argument?
 
2017-10-06 12:18:29 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

You're running interference for him, which is a defensive position.

What's the point? He's human garbage.


Kind of.   Hes also funny sometimes and makes people I think are killing my party and ideology upset, which in a twisted way makes me happy.
 
2017-10-06 12:18:43 PM  

bacchanalias and consequences: Why is how a person looks relevant as long as you find them hot?


Because he ONLY finds white women hot, and every time this
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happens, it's one (or more, you know how those pesky "darkies" are!) more out of the pool for him.
 
2017-10-06 12:19:45 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.

I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi


Terrible reason to be a fan of someone, but that's your bag, so hey. Stigginit-type attitude is what got us the most internationally despised president in history. What could go wrong?
 
2017-10-06 12:19:59 PM  

anustart: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Snuffleupagus

Bears pointing out that someone FINALLY (and subtly) pointed out Subby's total fail in spelling.


I will happily accept all undue credit for this completely unintended event.
 
2017-10-06 12:20:26 PM  

beakerxf: FormlessOne: Trivia Jockey: What an ugly hate machine.

That's the thing, though - it's not a "hate machine," but a "power machine." They created a transformer that turned disaffection, anger, and hate into political power, and then directed that political power as they saw fit. It's why they're so brash about their whole "legal defense" threat - Milo, Bannon, and others saw these assholes as malleable, and a bunch of these folks beat these assholes into a passable weapon of political war. They manufactured a power base that, while based on disaffection, anger, and hate, could be exploited without too much difficulty.

The fun part is realizing that, once "the endless tide of 1488 scum" read this, those racists and Nazis are going to be more than a little angry at Milo, and Bannon, and all the other assholes who laughed at them behind their backs even as they pitched and directed them to their faces. The "Master Race" wannabes just got manipulated by a gay Jewish guy.

If I recall correctly, Milo is Catholic. He later started to use a Jewish ancestor as convenient cover for his BS.


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2017-10-06 12:20:54 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: Boxingoutsider: Joke about it and your "phobic"

How dare people not like me saying mean shiat about people that get shiat on constantly?

You have to be so mad that people look at you funny when you say the "n" word.


Hahaha.   Good try.   I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Real recognizes real.  Spanish people say it more than black people even.
 
2017-10-06 12:21:23 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: Uh huh.  Remember, folks, the Attack Helicopter meme is definitely not transphobic.


Why did you quote me in that reply?
 
2017-10-06 12:21:39 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Yo guys, just to be clear, I wasn't mad that the courts integrated my school, it was about forced bussing.  I had to bus fifteen miles in the snow, barefoot, in order to get to that place.  Took nearly 30 minutes.  Sad.


Don't eat yellow snow, don't ride a yellow bus. - Joanie 'Bags' Ernst
 
2017-10-06 12:22:35 PM  

Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.


Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.
 
2017-10-06 12:23:00 PM  

Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.

I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi

Terrible reason to be a fan of someone, but that's your bag, so hey. Stigginit-type attitude is what got us the most internationally despised president in history. What could go wrong?


You never had a guilty pleasure?   I like public freakout videos too, but I usually feel bad for the participants.

Im honest and stand up about it.   Ill take whatever criticism people want to hurl.   The dudes a professional troll.   I just like that he trolls people I think are ruining my party.
 
2017-10-06 12:23:14 PM  

Boxingoutsider: I like watching people squirm.


And yet you hate people watching you squirm.
 
2017-10-06 12:24:02 PM  
Boxingoutsider:  I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2017-10-06 12:24:03 PM  

fusillade762: Anybody make it through the whole thing? What do I need to know about these assholes other than the fact that they're hateful authoritarian dickbags?


Some people were still holding onto the tiniest shred of plausible deniability that these scumbags weren't racist as f&%k. Kinda hard to do that and keep any pretense of objectivity when there's evidence of them freely corresponding and coordinating with neo-nazis.
 
2017-10-06 12:24:13 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Kind of.   Hes also funny sometimes and makes people I think are killing my party and ideology upset, which in a twisted way makes me happy.


This is where you went wrong.  At some point in your life, you bought into an ideology.  That is not a good thing to do.  I could tell you why, but it wouldn't matter.
 
2017-10-06 12:24:21 PM  
"I'm totally not defending Milo!  I swear!"
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Keep swinging and eventually you'll land a punch!
 
2017-10-06 12:24:30 PM  

Boxingoutsider:America first and build a wall dont make someone a Nazi dude.

I'm not saying the Venn diagram is a perfect circle, but they definitely overlap.  Its a shared belief.

Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.


lol...

'I'm not defending him, I just like some (?) of the things he says and does!'
 
2017-10-06 12:24:32 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.


No worries.  Have a good one.
 
2017-10-06 12:25:35 PM  

21-7-b: Boxingoutsider: People absolutely cannot.   Dude, watch the videos.   People go absolutely ape shiat,   just because youre mature enough to not act like a baby doesnt mean everyone is.

no, you're thinking what he wants you to think

i can discuss something like fascism calmly. i can make intelligent points, backed with evidence, to undermine a fascist's arguments. i can do that online, or in person. sometimes, say as is the case with a very, very, very old person i know, i might say no more than 'well, I'm not so sure about that, but i don't know and that's just my opinion' or something like that. in fact i might even just tut and roll my eyes with a half smile. doesn't mean to say i have no other route open to me, doesn't mean to say i can't make an argument to embarrass their argument. but that is the route i prefer to take in that instance. other people I could see myself being willing to engage in a much more forthright exchange, perhaps beyond reasoned debate. that there are a variety of responses that people might feel more appropriate according to the circumstances as they see them doesn't mean to say 'they can't handle it.'


I feel that.   To me, the people to be tuned out are only at the very very very end of the bell curve.  I enjoy the process.   I enjoy the debate.   Even with Nazis, or snowflakes or idiots or whoever.

When you start ignoring people because you dont like what they say, youre just seeking an echo chamber.
 
2017-10-06 12:25:48 PM  

Boxingoutsider: JimmyTheHutt: Cubicle Jockey: He brought them up in a discussion about Milo. Milo isn't talking on campuses about unions, the ACA or progressive taxation.

Boxingoutsider: If I don't agree with your desire to identify as a man/woman/x/dragon/attack helicopter

Uh huh.  Remember, folks, the Attack Helicopter meme is definitely not transphobic.  Totally.  Trust us.

Here we go.   Joke about it and your "phobic"     great example of precisely what I'm talking about.

Thanks for playing.


Very nice! A well implemented example of Schrodinger's Douchebag. Excellent job.
 
2017-10-06 12:26:51 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.

I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi

Terrible reason to be a fan of someone, but that's your bag, so hey. Stigginit-type attitude is what got us the most internationally despised president in history. What could go wrong?

You never had a guilty pleasure?   I like public freakout videos too, but I usually feel bad for the participants.

Im honest and stand up about it.   Ill take whatever criticism people want to hurl.   The dudes a professional troll.   I just like that he trolls people I think are ruining my party.


 please explain why trolling is at all worthy of even a guilty pleasure? Either you don't believe what you are saying and you are intentionally lying to upset people,  in which case they are a shiatbag.

Or he actually believes what he says, and is legit a shiatbag.

Either way, its complete nonsense.
 
2017-10-06 12:26:52 PM  
This is embarrassing to watch.
 
2017-10-06 12:27:04 PM  

Horizon: You know, there is a certain grim and morbid satisfaction from the knowledge that if these fascist farks truly took over, they'd stick farking Milo in a gas chamber too. His last words that he'd squeal out as they sealed the door would be "wait, I'm one of you, I thought we were friends!" I wonder if he even realizes that or if he's so far up his own ass he's blind to it


"He added that during his karaoke performance, his "severe myopia" made it impossible for him to see the Hitler salutes a few feet away. "

Yes, that describes him to a T.
 
2017-10-06 12:27:10 PM  

Mike_LowELL: AdamK: Mike_LowELL: mainsail: Which can be a point of all these- if you get turned off on politics and don't participate, they have fewer people to control. More power for less work.

But here's the problem: Only 30,000 people voted in the original 1792 election.  If you truly believe that we must respect the original intent of the Constitution, as I do, then why does it make sense to have 110 million people voting?

I think we need to create a system in which successful people are the ones with the right to vote.  Keep it at 30,000, and make sure they represent a wide range of the country.  Rich.  White.  Male.  Pull people from all social groups to elect the next Republican.

That's why I support Steve Bannon in private online conversations that could never leak out into the public where they could destroy my reputation.  The man just wants white people to be happy again.  Why do you hate white people, for being happy?

My bloodline has been here since the 1740's and voted in the very first election so I say deport Milo and Bannon and the Kochs back to whatever euro shiat hole they came from.

Oh, so it's okay to kick people out of the country, if they're white.  Who's the real racist now?

Probably still me.  Sigh.  *sigh*


I dunno, white was defined differently 200 years ago, these guys aren't white at all! deport away!
 
2017-10-06 12:27:43 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.


Its real talk.  Come volunteer if you doubt me.  We need more people, even squares.
 
2017-10-06 12:28:28 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: Uh huh.  Remember, folks, the Attack Helicopter meme is definitely not transphobic.  Totally.  Trust us.


Probably because it isn't.  The attack helicopter meme is mocks otherkin and the other increasingly absurd "identifications".  So that makes it, if anything, zoophobic, dracophobic, monokerophobia and broniphobic.
 
2017-10-06 12:28:35 PM  

skyotter: Boxingoutsider: I like watching people squirm.

And yet you hate people watching you squirm.


No way.   Make me squirm.   That tests me.  Box me in.  Make an inescapable logic trap and lure me in.   I dont mind taking an l if I get better or smarter.
 
2017-10-06 12:30:51 PM  

Beta Tested: Probably because it isn't.


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2017-10-06 12:30:56 PM  
Ned Stark:

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


Look, it's really very simple.

You are making a generalization that mixed-race couples have a higher failure rate, with zero evidence.  it appears to us that you are using this fallacy to justify your own personal revulsion at seeing white girls with black guys so that you don't have to admit to yourself that you're really just (at least subconsicously) bigoted but rather are just so very concerned about their happiness. There are only two possibilities: Either we are correct in our interpretation or you are just incredibly wrong in your demographic analysis.

Even IF your wild assertion was true, SO WHAT?  People date, live together, even marry, and then sometimes it doesn't work out.  Who cares?

Actually, I'll tell you who cares:  People that think the various races among the Human species were originally geographically separated (be it by nature or God) for some deliberate natural purpose rather than just as a matter of evolutionary happenstance.  We have a term for those people: Racists.
 
2017-10-06 12:31:24 PM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Ned Stark: Huggermugger: Ned Stark: All trends have their exceptions, and yeah that is one I knew about.

/Maybe this data just means white women mudsharks are hard to like with
//That's stolen

Isn't that the term you people usually use?  At least in private conversation and on alt-right message boards.

That doesn't call back to the higher imaginary WM/WF divorce rate and really seems more like genuine ragey misogyny than a tongue in cheek joke. Probably wouldn't have stolen that version.

FTFY. We already covered how the original study asserting higher divorce rates in mixed marriages was shown to be flawed, and following studies showed greater parity between mixed and same race/ethnicity.

What, exactly, is mixed about a WM/WF marriage?

I'll cop to it - that mistake is entirely on me. I was still thinking about the original the original argument you were going for for most of this thread about the reason for not dating outside your race as because the divorce rates show they're absolutely doomed to fail. 

So... wait. Are you claiming that it's the other way around now?

No? Chase this quote line back to the top. It starts with some guy pointing out that one study found a lower divorce rate for WM/BF than for WM/WF relationships. I agreed that every trend has it's exceptions and that I had seen the same data myself, then shared a quip someone posted the last time we talked about that study(for indeed, everything has happened before.) After that it's just huggermugger doing some dumb ftfy shiat and me explaining why what he said is nonsensical.

Damn, first you downgrade me from proper noun status when talking to other people and now you refer to me as a different party entirely. That's cold, Ned. What did I ever do to you?


Oh? My apologies. Kinda dealing with a lot of fronts here, not keeping to strict a track of who exacltly said what. If we ever meet at a dark party or some shiat remind me of how I wronged you and I'll buy you a beer or something. We can have this debate again but loud drunk and in public.


So, to get on the same page - are you saying that study is an exception to the normal trends where mixed marriages have a more or less similar divorce rate to any other, or the debunked trend for mixed marriages to have a disproportionately higher divorce rate from your original argument?

I mean, in that particular study the WM/BF result was an exception to the trend. The later larger sample size study that "debuked" it found higher rates.

In fact, heres a side by side. Errr... over under.
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2017-10-06 12:31:42 PM  

Dimensio: Mad_Radhu: Pope Larry II: HotWingConspiracy: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

He says he's very concerned that mixed race kids can't get blood transfusions or something. I dunno, it's all asshole talk to me

I had my hair dresser tell me that AIDS was a result of "mixed blood", I never spoke to her again.

Well to be fair, Ryan White and Issac Asimov both died of AIDS because the blood of someone with HIV was mixed with theirs.

[img.fark.net image 400x301]


Let me clarify that, the CAUSE of AIDS was "mixed blood", not why people got it, but how it began.
 
2017-10-06 12:32:26 PM  

Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.

I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi

Terrible reason to be a fan of someone, but that's your bag, so hey. Stigginit-type attitude is what got us the most internationally despised president in history. What could go wrong?

You never had a guilty pleasure?   I like public freakout videos too, but I usually feel bad for the participants.

Im honest and stand up about it.   Ill take whatever criticism people want to hurl.   The dudes a professional troll.   I just like that he trolls people I think are ruining my party.

 please explain why trolling is at all worthy of even a guilty pleasure? Either you don't believe what you are saying and you are intentionally lying to upset people,  in which case they are a shiatbag.

Or he actually believes what he says, and is legit a shiatbag.

Either way, its complete nonsense.


Are you kidding ?   Trolling people for fun is an ancient tradition.

Watching people get trolled is the same.   Theres tv shows about it, umpteen youtubers doing it to the tune of millions of views a day.

Its not moral, its not right, you wouldnt want your mom to get trolled and get angry and act a fool.  But . . . .it can be funny and a guilty pleasure.  Like the freakout videos.  ,I feel sorry for most of the freaker outers.   Wish they would not have had an embarrassing moment caught on video.   But. . . .like many many others I will watch for a little guilty entertainment.
 
2017-10-06 12:32:47 PM  

Boxingoutsider: I feel that.   To me, the people to be tuned out are only at the very very very end of the bell curve.  I enjoy the process.   I enjoy the debate.   Even with Nazis, or snowflakes or idiots or whoever.

When you start ignoring people because you dont like what they say, youre just seeking an echo chamber.


i think just a moment ago you described milo as a troll, didn't you? lemme see. yes: 'The dudes a professional troll.' so, therefore, the question is why, in your opinion, do people have an obligation to keep listening to people you describe as 'professional trolls'?
 
2017-10-06 12:33:52 PM  

JimmyTheHutt: Beta Tested: Probably because it isn't.

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Cant joke ever.   This is the logical extension because every joke comes at someone's expense.   How can anyone live in a perpetual state of being offended?
 
2017-10-06 12:34:06 PM  

Boxingoutsider: JerseyTim: This really is a terrific piece of journalism.

On top of being a racist and overall horrible person, the fact that Bannon doesn't spell out "are" and "you" and writes things like "Dude!!! LMAO! ... Epic" in emails makes him that much more despicable.

That's what I hated most.


White people problems
 
2017-10-06 12:35:21 PM  

Boxingoutsider: skyotter: Boxingoutsider: I like watching people squirm.

And yet you hate people watching you squirm.

No way.   Make me squirm.   That tests me.  Box me in.  Make an inescapable logic trap and lure me in.   I dont mind taking an l if I get better or smarter.


Son, you've been whining for pages.  You're squirming now and you don't realize it.  Do you feel better or smarter from it?  :)
 
2017-10-06 12:36:34 PM  

21-7-b: Boxingoutsider: I feel that.   To me, the people to be tuned out are only at the very very very end of the bell curve.  I enjoy the process.   I enjoy the debate.   Even with Nazis, or snowflakes or idiots or whoever.

When you start ignoring people because you dont like what they say, youre just seeking an echo chamber.

i think just a moment ago you described milo as a troll, didn't you? lemme see. yes: 'The dudes a professional troll.' so, therefore, the question is why, in your opinion, do people have an obligation to keep listening to people you describe as 'professional trolls'?


I feel that.   Theres some duplicity there.   Ok.  If its a professional troll I can see may be.   But . . . .even within his trolling he does put forth some uncomfortable stats.   Real stats, not fake news.

Good work.  But the trolls that reach this level are very very few and far between.   Tuning out people who just passionately disagree with you is more what I was aiming at.

Good one!
 
2017-10-06 12:36:42 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Cubicle Jockey: Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.

Its real talk.  Come volunteer if you doubt me.  We need more people, even squares.


Are you a pimp? You know, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
 
2017-10-06 12:36:53 PM  

Boxingoutsider: JimmyTheHutt: Beta Tested: Probably because it isn't.

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Cant joke ever.   This is the logical extension because every joke comes at someone's expense.   How can anyone live in a perpetual state of being offended?


It couldn't possibly be that people don't like jokes that are at the expense of a minority group that is currently seeing their rights whittled away day by day. No, that wouldn't be it at all.

Maybe you should stick to "chicken crossing the road" jokes.
 
2017-10-06 12:37:51 PM  
I always get Milo and Bruno mixed up.

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2017-10-06 12:39:11 PM  

AdamK: Mike_LowELL: mainsail: Which can be a point of all these- if you get turned off on politics and don't participate, they have fewer people to control. More power for less work.

But here's the problem: Only 30,000 people voted in the original 1792 election.  If you truly believe that we must respect the original intent of the Constitution, as I do, then why does it make sense to have 110 million people voting?

I think we need to create a system in which successful people are the ones with the right to vote.  Keep it at 30,000, and make sure they represent a wide range of the country.  Rich.  White.  Male.  Pull people from all social groups to elect the next Republican.

That's why I support Steve Bannon in private online conversations that could never leak out into the public where they could destroy my reputation.  The man just wants white people to be happy again.  Why do you hate white people, for being happy?

My bloodline has been here since the 1740's and voted in the very first election so I say deport Milo and Bannon and the Kochs back to whatever euro shiat hole they came from.


My patronym came to the Eastern Shore of Virginia in 1623, and I believe that all the arrivistes who arrived after the American Revolution should be herded into ships and sent back from whence they came.
 
2017-10-06 12:40:06 PM  

skyotter: Boxingoutsider: skyotter: Boxingoutsider: I like watching people squirm.

And yet you hate people watching you squirm.

No way.   Make me squirm.   That tests me.  Box me in.  Make an inescapable logic trap and lure me in.   I dont mind taking an l if I get better or smarter.

Son, you've been whining for pages.  You're squirming now and you don't realize it.  Do you feel better or smarter from it?  :)


I'm not whining.   Just killing some time.   Text struggles to convey emotion anf then we tend to place in our own interpretation of emotion.

Dry humor, sarcasm, anger, tough to really discern these in certain circumstances.  I'm,actually liking this conversation and ive changed some views here today.   I always thought he was a kind of conniving troll asshole, but the way he licks bannons boots and truly openly conspires with actual real Nazis is crazy.   Not "Nazis" the way its used now, but real life true Nazis.

I bet I'm not the only closet milo viewer who feels that way today.
 
2017-10-06 12:40:49 PM  

Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: Elliot8654: Boxingoutsider: sigdiamond2000: Can you imagine waking up and feeling compelled to defend Milo Yiannopolis and Steve Bannon on the internet all morning?

Im a tiny bit of a milo fan and I'm not defending him.   I actually don't think anyone is.

I don't get how you can be a fan of him.

He is what 4chan looks like when they think they are trying to be christopher hitchens, given human form.

I like watching people squirm.   He makes people I think are ridiculous squirm.   Enemy of my enemy kind of deal.

Just because I like to watch him make pussies squirm doesnt mean I fall in lock Step with his views.   But here, and in modern society admitting I watch his videos and laugh makes me a Nazi

Terrible reason to be a fan of someone, but that's your bag, so hey. Stigginit-type attitude is what got us the most internationally despised president in history. What could go wrong?

You never had a guilty pleasure?   I like public freakout videos too, but I usually feel bad for the participants.

Im honest and stand up about it.   Ill take whatever criticism people want to hurl.   The dudes a professional troll.   I just like that he trolls people I think are ruining my party.

 please explain why trolling is at all worthy of even a guilty pleasure? Either you don't believe what you are saying and you are intentionally lying to upset people,  in which case they are a shiatbag.

Or he actually believes what he says, and is legit a shiatbag.

Either way, its complete nonsense.

Are you kidding ?   Trolling people for fun is an ancient tradition.

Watching people get trolled is the same.   Theres tv shows about it, umpteen youtubers doing it to the tune of millions of views a day.

Its not moral, its not right, you wouldnt want your mom to get trolled and get angry and act a fool.  But . . . .it can be funny and a guilty pleasure.  Like the freakout videos.  ,I feel sorry for most of the freaker outers.   Wish they would not have had an embarrassing moment caught on video.   But. . . .like many many others I will watch for a little guilty entertainment.


Call me weird then, but watching others suffer doesn't bring me joy. And in all the cases so far where youtube people or tv shows "troll" people, it ends with letting them in on the joke.

I really don't like my ex now, but she was raped when she was a teenager by her first boyfriend and we both agree that was terrible.  If someone decided to "troll" her that rape victims are at fault for getting raped, i would feel zero percent bad when she takes his knees out with a baseball bat.
 
2017-10-06 12:41:11 PM  

Boxingoutsider: beakerxf: Boxingoutsider: JerseyTim: This really is a terrific piece of journalism.

On top of being a racist and overall horrible person, the fact that Bannon doesn't spell out "are" and "you" and writes things like "Dude!!! LMAO! ... Epic" in emails makes him that much more despicable.

That's what I hated most.   Ill admit I'm a closet milo video binge watcher.   I hate the way the college campuses especially seem to have become breeding grounds for a new kind of fascist identity politics where whoever is the most aggrieved becomes the most influential.   So . . . .I get off on watching him annihilate and trigger these pussy ass kids were raising.

But . . . that was really troubling.  I'm not going to vote republican ever, and I don't support white supremacy or Nazis or any of that shiat.   But. . . . like many people cited in that article,I am a long time leftist kind of pissed off with where we are going as a movement.

Its interesting how guys like milo and to a lesser extent Shapiro really resonate with many democrats who secretly despise snowflake liberalism but would almost never actually vote republican.  People like me who want there to be freedom and equality but don't want to be lectured about how intolerant they are because they arent super comfy with whatever the latest identity politics trend is.  Democrats who don't think cops are scum.   Democrats who own guns and like guns.   Democrats who believe in border security and don't want to be lectured on the cruelty of a wall or securing the border.

This is why the current gun debate is so important.  Pushing away moderates and chastising them because they aren't as angry as you or angry with the same things is just foolish.   Its partly why we have trump as our president.

To me that article painted milo as an attention seeking avaricious and obsequious kind of toady at the feet of real movers and shakers.   It painted bannon as thinking he's the man, but really being the same kind of obsequious toady just to a higher level of boss.  Also bannon comes off as . . . .just kind of dumb.   Cunning no doubt.   Able in some weird ways to navigate the halls and yachts of power well but ultimately just kind of simple and easily played.

Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're a white middle class male. Not that's a bad thing. It's just that it's easy for you to be drawn to his ideaology because it's liw stakes for you. If the Milo and the Bannons of the world hold power, you're fine. White, middle class males will continue to be most powerful in society. If liberals hold power, you'd still be fine but maybe not the default power setting or centered in discussions. So it can feel like liberalism is going in the wrong direction because from your position, it's shifting power away from you.

And I think the college campus snowflake bullshiat it based on cherry picked campuses and push polls. Colleges are still popping out just as many Nazi sympathizing, khaki wearing Young Republicans as they are graduating hairy-pitted, tatted SJWs.

If I am being very selfish it does not matter at all who was in power. Middle class white male for sure. However to the people who are involved with the organization's I volunteer for it matters a great deal and it also matters to me morally who is in power.

I dont want gays to be persecuted.  I don't want us to bomb brown people for little or no reason.   I also think micro aggression is ridiculous and that the everyone gets a trophy thinking is going to kill us in the long run.


There's plenty of legitimate ways to challenge the worst ideas of the liberal movement. Using Mili "I let racists ghostwrite my articles" Yiannopoulos, is not one of them.

If you're going to expose yourself to his pseudo-intellectual clap trap, at least off-set it with legitimate thinkers.
 
2017-10-06 12:41:23 PM  

Farker Soze: Boxingoutsider: Cubicle Jockey: Boxingoutsider: I say it from time to time in my volunteer capacity in a huge room full of brown and black people, many of whom are violent and wouldnt hesitate to knock out a square who said it, and never get even a second look.

Ok, Im out.
Apologies, Jimmy.

Its real talk.  Come volunteer if you doubt me.  We need more people, even squares.

Are you a pimp? You know, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


Hahaha.   White boys in general dont make good pimps.   No.  I just mentor at risk kids from really challenging backgrounds.
 
2017-10-06 12:41:23 PM
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2017-10-06 12:42:39 PM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


"i'll just take a break from attacking lefties to remind them that, if they attack me, we're all just pawns in someone else's game."
 
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