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2017-10-06 10:02:21 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: Everyone that didn't take GamerGate seriously, and didn't see 2016 coming as a result needs to apologize.


No, we need to constantly waffle between "loser gamers living in their parents' basement" and "violent supremacists who are a threat to the nation".

It's the only way to be safe.  It's the only way to make sure everyone knows the new Ghostbusters is better than the original.
 
2017-10-06 10:02:41 AM  

Trivia Jockey: What an ugly hate machine.


That's the thing, though - it's not a "hate machine," but a "power machine." They created a transformer that turned disaffection, anger, and hate into political power, and then directed that political power as they saw fit. It's why they're so brash about their whole "legal defense" threat - Milo, Bannon, and others saw these assholes as malleable, and a bunch of these folks beat these assholes into a passable weapon of political war. They manufactured a power base that, while based on disaffection, anger, and hate, could be exploited without too much difficulty.

The fun part is realizing that, once "the endless tide of 1488 scum" read this, those racists and Nazis are going to be more than a little angry at Milo, and Bannon, and all the other assholes who laughed at them behind their backs even as they pitched and directed them to their faces. The "Master Race" wannabes just got manipulated by a gay Jewish guy.
 
2017-10-06 10:03:26 AM  
This is just being ironic, so everyone's cool with it, right?

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2017-10-06 10:04:05 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: Officer Barrelroll: Why does Bannon email like a teenage girl?

U R?  Seriously?

I feel like you know this intuitively already, but it's because he's a dumb guy who believes dumb things. That's how the stupid write these days.


Nonsense!

A Master Strategist: Steve Bannon Has Completed His Yearlong Plan To Become Increasingly Irrelevant Before Eventually Getting Fired:  http://www.clickhole.com/article/master-strategist-steve-bann​on-has-co​mpleted-his-y-6521
 
2017-10-06 10:04:26 AM  
I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.
 
2017-10-06 10:04:27 AM  
I wonder what the internal communiques are like at Huffpo.
 
2017-10-06 10:04:36 AM  

fusillade762: Anybody make it through the whole thing? What do I need to know about these assholes other than the fact that they're hateful authoritarian dickbags?


That an online publication that threatens to anyone that dares label it "racist" has run articles by self-described racists for edits and approval.
 
2017-10-06 10:06:54 AM  

Ned Stark: It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


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2017-10-06 10:07:01 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


Sounds like the side that doesn't want to ethicnically cleanse is as bad as the side that does.
 
2017-10-06 10:08:49 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


Except there are concrete policy differentials between the two, revolving around equal treatment, income inequality, and a social safety net.

You know, insignificant things like that.
 
2017-10-06 10:09:04 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


I like this new talking point.
 
2017-10-06 10:09:17 AM  

Some Guy In A Waistcoat: Karac: Picture in article: Milo holding up a sign that says "OUR BORDERS LANGUAGE CULTURE MAKE AMERICA GREAT"

Isn't that farker British?  Although I guess a border that let's Milo through does obviously have a few design problems.

On behalf of my nation, I'm invoking the sacred rite of 'no backsies'.


I don't think we all want him either, maybe we should send him somewhere halfway between the countries, like Bikini Atoll
 
2017-10-06 10:09:23 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


"BSABSVR"

/I'm picturing an overweight white teenager wearing a fedora
 
2017-10-06 10:09:30 AM  

Karac: Picture in article: Milo holding up a sign that says "OUR BORDERS LANGUAGE CULTURE MAKE AMERICA GREAT"

Isn't that farker British?  Although I guess a border that let's Milo through does obviously have a few design problems.


yes and he should be deported

/DEPORT HIM
 
2017-10-06 10:10:06 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


The disagreements between right and left strike me as actually important on their own terms. Things that we would need to duke it out over anyway, rich people or no. Global warming, immigration, abortion, gun control, etc, what exactly do you propose the obvious noncontroversial answers to these things are that we will all converge on when we drop the propoganda?
 
2017-10-06 10:10:16 AM  

Deez Piles: This report brought to you by Buzzfeed.

No further questions.


Buzzfeed broke major stories this past year about:

Steele Dossier (yes, they were 1st)
Putin/Russia hit squads killing 15 in Great Britain
A piece on Fancy Bear, a Russian hacker group undermining the election
and, today, about US intelligence illegally spying on Americans' financial records

and, helpfully, they have a quiz where they'll guess your sign based on the pizza you like.
 
2017-10-06 10:10:22 AM  

FLMountainMan: Just them though, right?  Feeding debate questions to candidates ahead of time, photoshopping pictures, and openly cheering for candidates is all kosher if our team does it, right?


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2017-10-06 10:10:22 AM  

willfullyobscure: HERP A DERP A DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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You'll be ride or die for ethics in gaming journalism until the day you die.
 
2017-10-06 10:10:25 AM  

Destructor: I wonder what the internal communiques are like at Huffpo.


Probably written in correct English, and not advocating vile racist shiat.
 
2017-10-06 10:10:28 AM  

Horizon: You know, there is a certain grim and morbid satisfaction from the knowledge that if these fascist farks truly took over, they'd stick farking Milo in a gas chamber too. His last words that he'd squeal out as they sealed the door would be "wait, I'm one of you, I thought we were friends!" I wonder if he even realizes that or if he's so far up his own ass he's blind to it


I'll probably wade into the poop with this assertion, but I have a feeling that when Milo says he's disavowed racism, I believe him. It is genuinely possible that he really thought he was just being funny and edgy and provoking and making big jokes without being aware that that gives shelter to people who mean it. We must know a thousand people like him; twelve year old mindsets who get off on pissing off the grownups. He just never outgrew it.

Think about that kid you knew in Junior High with the swastikas all over his Trapper Keeper. He wasn't making a political statement; his goal was to freak out the teachers. Now imagine he's making a thousand bucks per swastika. That's our man Milo.
 
2017-10-06 10:10:55 AM  
 
2017-10-06 10:11:04 AM  

sardonicobserver: I'm turned off by these partisan blogs attacking each other.

/My BS can beat up your BS -- No it can't --  Yes it can
//It's all BS


WTF?  Partisan blogs?  Aren't we talking about Nazis (sorry, "white nationalists")?  Are we really going with false equivalence here?
 
2017-10-06 10:11:42 AM  

Cbillrun: Lol you libs are absolute fascists nuts. Pot calling kettle black. What a lot of nothing in this long winded article. Once again I am deeply embarrassed for anyone who believes Milo is a racist or nazi. Sad


Are you joking?  I honestly can't tell anymore.
 
2017-10-06 10:11:44 AM  

tuxq: I'm just wondering when all of you realize we're being pitted against each other for the "betterment" of the rich. Drop the left and right think ... it's ALL propaganda.


Yeah, there will always be propaganda, but one side is Nazi propaganda and that's decidedly not cool.
 
2017-10-06 10:12:02 AM  

Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


I'm going to need a citation for your claim. A perfunctory Google search shows that white men marrying black women have THE LOWEST divorce rate out there. So, is your view out of "concern" or do you want to admit that you just don't like it because reasons?

/married to a black woman
//10 years
///We still giggle and hug like a teenage crush
 
2017-10-06 10:12:43 AM  

Ned Stark: It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


My Persian wife is going to be crushed.
 
2017-10-06 10:12:50 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: FLMountainMan: Derp
doubled99: Herpaderp

You guys get paid per post, or is it more of a weekly thing, where you hit a certain quota and then you get paid?


Literally all the GOP has these days is whataboutism. My mother's still pissed off at Ted Kennedy and he's been dead for eight years.

"Hillary would have been so much worse" is the only illusion they have left. What right have we to rob them of it?
 
2017-10-06 10:12:51 AM  

Ned Stark: It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


Another popular tactic is to say that you're very, very concerned about any potential children*.

*deep, legitimate concern about interracial dating does not apply to white guys with asian girls.
 
2017-10-06 10:13:00 AM  

odinsposse: This is just being ironic, so everyone's cool with it, right?

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I'm not cool with that.

Nazi was still breathing at the end of it. If the Nazi still draws breath after the beating, you got more work to do.
 
2017-10-06 10:13:16 AM  

FLMountainMan: Just them though, right?  Feeding debate questions to candidates ahead of time, photoshopping pictures, and openly cheering for candidates is all kosher if our team does it, right?


Whataboutism can EABOD.
 
2017-10-06 10:13:28 AM  

Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


No, it just means you're shiatty at dating and at drawing conclusions.
 
2017-10-06 10:13:29 AM  

Ned Stark: It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


unless you can come up with some stats, this sounds like BS "Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't."

I'll agree dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is a bad idea, which i suspect might be what happens most often with the prior statement
 
2017-10-06 10:14:27 AM  

Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


Whelp, here's the most racist and idiotic thing I'll read all day.
 
2017-10-06 10:14:49 AM  

malapriapism: This thread is very useful for marking certain people in bright red. When I refreshed, the page looks like a peppermint stick. Buzzfeed must be onto something for the neckbeard troll brigade to roll out from under their bridges before noon.


Mrs. Curtis must have a headache this morning.
 
2017-10-06 10:14:51 AM  

malapriapism: This thread is very useful for marking certain people in bright red. When I refreshed, the page looks like a peppermint stick. Buzzfeed must be onto something for the neckbeard troll brigade to roll out from under their bridges before noon.


You rang?
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2017-10-06 10:15:24 AM  

peasandcarrots: Horizon: You know, there is a certain grim and morbid satisfaction from the knowledge that if these fascist farks truly took over, they'd stick farking Milo in a gas chamber too. His last words that he'd squeal out as they sealed the door would be "wait, I'm one of you, I thought we were friends!" I wonder if he even realizes that or if he's so far up his own ass he's blind to it

I'll probably wade into the poop with this assertion, but I have a feeling that when Milo says he's disavowed racism, I believe him. It is genuinely possible that he really thought he was just being funny and edgy and provoking and making big jokes without being aware that that gives shelter to people who mean it. We must know a thousand people like him; twelve year old mindsets who get off on pissing off the grownups. He just never outgrew it.

Think about that kid you knew in Junior High with the swastikas all over his Trapper Keeper. He wasn't making a political statement; his goal was to freak out the teachers. Now imagine he's making a thousand bucks per swastika. That's our man Milo.


Why does he use passwords that reference anti-jewish ideology and events? Who is that pissing off? Who is that a statement for?
 
2017-10-06 10:16:29 AM  

Destructor: I wonder what the internal communiques are like at Huffpo.


Hey, look!  A distraction!
 
2017-10-06 10:17:44 AM  
Here are some perfectly lovely folks, just minding their own business... typical Milo fans I'm sure.

And I absolutely believe them when they say we hate them because they're "white" rather than we hate them because they're friggin' Nazis with a giant Swastika in the background

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2017-10-06 10:19:03 AM  

Ned Stark: It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?


Funny thing is, most places that cite the massive failure rate of interracial marriages usually bring up the L. Bratter and Rosalind B. King study which relied on a small sample size, and with the highest peak of interracial marriage failures happening with couples who were together in the late 80's - which were understandably not a great time to be an interracial couplein the US or UK (hell, the 90's weren't great either: we had a local group of assholes who took exception to my mother dating a black man when I was a kid which started with bricks through windows and culminated in an attempt to set the whole apartment block on fire). 

The later study by Yaunting Zhang and Jennifer Van Hook used a larger sample size and couples who had gotten together in a later time period which shows that, while racial differences and difficulties were cited as a factor in the divorce, the divorce rates themselves were more on par with the average for same-ethnicity pairings. Hell, white/asian marriages actually pulled ahead in terms of stability.
 
2017-10-06 10:20:17 AM  
"Racial purity" is a meme.
 
2017-10-06 10:20:41 AM  

weddingsinger: Here are some perfectly lovely folks, just minding their own business... typical Milo fans I'm sure.

And I absolutely believe them when they say we hate them because they're "white" rather than we hate them because they're friggin' Nazis with a giant Swastika in the background

[img.fark.net image 850x904]


Also, their handle is "Aryan State"...this is satire, right?  I don't know anymore...
 
2017-10-06 10:20:42 AM  

dr_blasto: Karac: Picture in article: Milo holding up a sign that says "OUR BORDERS LANGUAGE CULTURE MAKE AMERICA GREAT"

Isn't that farker British?  Although I guess a border that let's Milo through does obviously have a few design problems.

yes and he should be deported

/DEPORT HIM


Too late. I already invoked 'no backsies' upthread :p
 
2017-10-06 10:22:26 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: peasandcarrots: Horizon: You know, there is a certain grim and morbid satisfaction from the knowledge that if these fascist farks truly took over, they'd stick farking Milo in a gas chamber too. His last words that he'd squeal out as they sealed the door would be "wait, I'm one of you, I thought we were friends!" I wonder if he even realizes that or if he's so far up his own ass he's blind to it

I'll probably wade into the poop with this assertion, but I have a feeling that when Milo says he's disavowed racism, I believe him. It is genuinely possible that he really thought he was just being funny and edgy and provoking and making big jokes without being aware that that gives shelter to people who mean it. We must know a thousand people like him; twelve year old mindsets who get off on pissing off the grownups. He just never outgrew it.

Think about that kid you knew in Junior High with the swastikas all over his Trapper Keeper. He wasn't making a political statement; his goal was to freak out the teachers. Now imagine he's making a thousand bucks per swastika. That's our man Milo.

Why does he use passwords that reference anti-jewish ideology and events? Who is that pissing off? Who is that a statement for?



I think I'll defer to Mr. Vonnegut for this one:
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"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."

/ I actually didn't think the book was that good, but I should probably re-read it, now that American Nazis are becoming a thing again
 
2017-10-06 10:22:31 AM  

goat012006: Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?

I'm going to need a citation for your claim. A perfunctory Google search shows that white men marrying black women have THE LOWEST divorce rate out there. So, is your view out of "concern" or do you want to admit that you just don't like it because reasons?

/married to a black woman
//10 years
///We still giggle and hug like a teenage crush


I am going to have to let my three mixed race children know that:
A) mommy and daddy's 10 year loving relationship is doomed to fail
B) Because of science, I PROMISE, they are going to get the HIV
C) since interracial stuff is just anti-science AND God at the same time, as well as daaaaangerous (ooga ) they are harmful galactic sinners on both a spiritual AND biological level....worse than redheads and southpaws

.....they are going to be crestfallen.
 
2017-10-06 10:22:40 AM  

goat012006: Ned Stark: guestguy: Ned Stark: LL316: HotWingConspiracy: the "natural conservatives" (people who think different ethnic groups should stay separate for scientific reasons)

LOL, one of them posts here. He'll be in this thread later for sure.

Wtf are scientific reasons for not farking who you wanna fark?

There aren't many, and they aren't really important enough to waste time being concerned with.

HotwingConspiracy just determinedly interperets moderate intensity dating advice as though it were a call for a eugenics program.

Wat?

It once came up here that i think interracial dating is probably a bad idea.

Which is really all that was ment. Interracial relationships blow up more often than ones that aren't. It's a bad idea in exactly the same way that, say, dating wildly out of your income bracket or education level is. There is simply a greater chance of sorrow and pain in your future.

But apparently I'm a hardcore defender of the purity of the whit race?

I'm going to need a citation for your claim. A perfunctory Google search shows that white men marrying black women have THE LOWEST divorce rate out there. So, is your view out of "concern" or do you want to admit that you just don't like it because reasons?

/married to a black woman
//10 years
///We still giggle and hug like a teenage crush


All trends have their exceptions, and yeah that is one I knew about.

/Maybe this data just means white women are hard to like with
//That's stolen
 
2017-10-06 10:25:00 AM  

Things we were right about
- they're actually Nazis
- online harassment is organized
- centrists and "moderate" left are collaborators
💅

- Amy "👻😈👻" Dentata (@AmyDentata) October 5, 2017

women: there's some really insidious stuff going on between tech and actual nazis
men a half decade later: whoa guess what *I* discovered!!!

- grapeman (@moocowprincess) October 5, 2017

The best part of Buzzfeed story is that the central person behind Nazi playtime was chief strategist to the President of the United States

- Tim Miller (@Timodc) October 5, 2017
 
2017-10-06 10:25:24 AM  

fifthhorseman: So is hacking email and releasing the contents back to being cool again?


You forgot "whattabout".
 
2017-10-06 10:26:45 AM  

JerseyTim: This really is a terrific piece of journalism.

On top of being a racist and overall horrible person, the fact that Bannon doesn't spell out "are" and "you" and writes things like "Dude!!! LMAO! ... Epic" in emails makes him that much more despicable.


That's what I hated most.   Ill admit I'm a closet milo video binge watcher.   I hate the way the college campuses especially seem to have become breeding grounds for a new kind of fascist identity politics where whoever is the most aggrieved becomes the most influential.   So . . . .I get off on watching him annihilate and trigger these pussy ass kids were raising.

But . . . that was really troubling.  I'm not going to vote republican ever, and I don't support white supremacy or Nazis or any of that shiat.   But. . . . like many people cited in that article,I am a long time leftist kind of pissed off with where we are going as a movement.

Its interesting how guys like milo and to a lesser extent Shapiro really resonate with many democrats who secretly despise snowflake liberalism but would almost never actually vote republican.  People like me who want there to be freedom and equality but don't want to be lectured about how intolerant they are because they arent super comfy with whatever the latest identity politics trend is.  Democrats who don't think cops are scum.   Democrats who own guns and like guns.   Democrats who believe in border security and don't want to be lectured on the cruelty of a wall or securing the border.

This is why the current gun debate is so important.  Pushing away moderates and chastising them because they aren't as angry as you or angry with the same things is just foolish.   Its partly why we have trump as our president.

To me that article painted milo as an attention seeking avaricious and obsequious kind of toady at the feet of real movers and shakers.   It painted bannon as thinking he's the man, but really being the same kind of obsequious toady just to a higher level of boss.  Also bannon comes off as . . . .just kind of dumb.   Cunning no doubt.   Able in some weird ways to navigate the halls and yachts of power well but ultimately just kind of simple and easily played.
 
2017-10-06 10:27:24 AM  
DUDE -- WE R IN A GOLBAL EXISTENTIAL WAR

Holy fark Steve Bannon is crazy
 
2017-10-06 10:27:59 AM  

cybrwzrd: Ned Stark: Any money shots buried in there? I skimmed it but all I saw was people organizing the things they went on to do in public anywayplus some digs at each other and attempts to take credit for shiat. Nothing that really changes the "not a nazi, but happy to hang out with nazis" image of Milo in my head.

I really don't want to see Milo getting a money shot....


I would, if it was with a sack of quarters.
 
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