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(Irish Independent)   Parents charged with manslaughter after newborn dies from treatable jaundice because parents refused to seek medical help. Their excuse? "God makes no mistakes"   ( independent.ie) divider line
    More: Sick, Ms Piland, Detective Peter Scaccia, Pediatrics, medical examiner, Faith Tech Ministries, Medicine, two-day-year old child, fellow church members  
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2017-10-06 10:13:38 AM  
12 votes:

Guadior42: Two of my 3 kids need the bili lights for a brief amount of time. Of course, their mother and I were not complete retarded farkwits and had our babies in modern hospitals, with all the benefits a modern, scientific society could offer.


Yeah, our first child needed the lights for 3 or 4 days.  We brought him home after birth and by the second day we noticed the hue of his skin was scary yellow/orange.

Took him back for a refund, but they shined lights on him instead.  "See?  Good as new!" they said.  Seemed all right so we took him home.  They neglected to tell us that some day he'd be a teenager.
2017-10-06 05:16:59 AM  
12 votes:
Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.
2017-10-06 02:55:05 AM  
12 votes:
If you really want to cause dissension in the ranks, ask "We know God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, but if you were God, what would you change about today's world .... ?"

And watch them try to hold two conflicting ideas in their tiny regimented minds
2017-10-06 06:44:27 AM  
8 votes:
Despite the fact Abigail wasn't eating properly and coughed up blood, the detective said Ms Piland put the two-day-year old child "near a window wearing just a diaper utilizing a hair dryer to keep her warm".

If God doesn't make mistakes, then why use a hair dryer to warn the baby? Room temperature and the sun should had been enough. That baby died because these idolaters placed their faith on their fancy machine instead of the lord. Well, looks like their golden calf was just full of hot air.
2017-10-06 06:30:49 AM  
3 votes:

mjjt: If you really want to cause dissension in the ranks, ask "We know God is perfect, and doesn't make mistakes, but if you were God, what would you change about today's world .... ?"

And watch them try to hold two conflicting ideas in their tiny regimented minds


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2017-10-06 06:10:14 AM  
3 votes:
I guess God really wanted them in prison.  Kind of a dick way to go about that, but...
2017-10-06 07:00:14 AM  
2 votes:
We have to stop that evil bastard before he kills us all!
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2017-10-06 06:54:04 AM  
2 votes:
FormlessOne: <words>

User name checks out for a non-corporeal deity.
2017-10-06 12:00:11 PM  
1 vote:
God letting those two be parents seems to have been a huge mistake.  Fortunately he corrected that.
2017-10-06 11:47:27 AM  
1 vote:
And God said "I sent you 3 different social workers to take the kid to the hospital, what more do you want me to do?"
2017-10-06 11:19:09 AM  
1 vote:

SansNeural: Guadior42: Two of my 3 kids need the bili lights for a brief amount of time. Of course, their mother and I were not complete retarded farkwits and had our babies in modern hospitals, with all the benefits a modern, scientific society could offer.

Yeah, our first child needed the lights for 3 or 4 days.  We brought him home after birth and by the second day we noticed the hue of his skin was scary yellow/orange.

Took him back for a refund, but they shined lights on him instead.  "See?  Good as new!" they said.  Seemed all right so we took him home.  They neglected to tell us that some day he'd be a teenager.


Yeah, they don't tell you the kid turns sour after 12 years.
2017-10-06 10:33:16 AM  
1 vote:
God doesn't make mistakes?  My personal medical history begs to differ.
2017-10-06 10:25:38 AM  
1 vote:

washington-babylon: Or that when God created everything, that really means EVERYTHING. The entirety of space and time. Which means that just because we are trapped inside time following a certain path, God doesn't have to be. To an outside observer from dimensions higher than the ones we observe on a daily basis, "difficult"  things like Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence are trivial things almost not worth even noticing.


That's interesting.  He might have create our past, present, future all in once instant and then put it on a shelf and moved-on to something else.  Than another god comes around and says - what's that there on the shelf.  Nothing - just something I created when I was really high.
2017-10-06 09:04:13 AM  
1 vote:
Hard to blame a conditioned since birth idiot for being an idiot. Some people are born with a lessened ability to function in the world... Look at trump.
2017-10-06 08:28:25 AM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.


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2017-10-06 08:21:29 AM  
1 vote:

Lady J: Resident Muslim: aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.

Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that

Hmm. I got handed a bunch of literature on Islam recently, which I've glanced over.

The stuff actually makes a genuine effort to reconcile some of the traditional teaching of the faith, with 21st century society. And it's articulate and interesting, but there comes a point, where two conflicting beliefs meet, where they just have to fudge it. So (I don't know the exact words) women are supposed to be subservient to their husband... there's just no palatable way to say that to a 21st century London woman. So they just fudge it, with a lot of handwaving. And the science booklet is the same.


1) watered-down religion to gain respect is never respected
2) you'd be surprised how many 21st century London women would find it platable to hear that the same guy who is responsible for leading the family* is also responsible for its livelihood, including financially and has NO claims to her money whether gained or inherited. I remember reading a western woman's reaction stating "I would LOVE to be only responsible for raising my child (and taking care of the household)." Her qualm was modern-day society expects women to be breadwinners in addition to the men...and guess what, they are ALSO responsible for most of the childcare duties and taking care of the household. That's most married couples whether we like it or not. Let's not kid ourselves.

/son of a feminist, grandson to a woman entrepreneur whose husband had no claim to her money
//*Leadership, true leadership is not dictatorship
///a lot of people read something such as "a woman who does not respond to her husband's call to the marriage bed and he goes to sleep angry at her, is cursed by angels until dawn" and read subservient. It's funny that they don't notice that this same passage is actually also saying IT IS HER DECISION and the man cannot force her!

////still sucks when it happens. From my side, I do try to clear my heart so that I don't sleep angry at her.
//My love
2017-10-06 07:57:45 AM  
1 vote:

chuggernaught: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

A couple of asshats do something evil so you blame the entire religion?  You're better than that.  That's something a Republican would do.


Nope, his Fark persona has gone full-persecuted.
2017-10-06 07:27:47 AM  
1 vote:
So, apparently God wants the parents to rot in prison.  She does work in mysterious ways.
2017-10-06 07:23:43 AM  
1 vote:

chuggernaught: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

A couple of asshats do something evil so you blame the entire religion?  You're better than that.  That's something a Republican would do.


well, I'm openly pagan living in trumper central so I might be a bit sensitive about the whole 'christanity' thing.  people driving by chanting 'burn the witch' while I walk the dog tends to make me a tad jumpy for at least a couple of weeks afterwards.

if it helps any, the only really horribly bad experience I've personally had with christians has been almost entirely limited to the screeching madness of evangelical christanity.  most other sects tend to impose their faith on us via the standard means of buying votes and politicians just like everyone else.  its the evangelicals who show up and throw things at us at pagan pride events, and shout hellfire and damnation at us with bullhorns.
2017-10-06 07:22:29 AM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion.


Admit it, you just want an excuse to watch more porn.

/nttawwt
2017-10-06 07:09:45 AM  
1 vote:

Muzzleloader: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

Never has been.
 It was designed from the ground up as a slaves religion to keep the poor and lessers in line.
  Roll over, stick your ass in the air and yell thank you god, I deserved that ass pounding, give me another.
  Don't worry now, after you die, you will spend forever in paradise and all the bad mean people will get their just rewards.
  Just remember to thank him for the fact that the shiat sandwich you eat every day has any bread at all.
    Oh, and even though he created everything, nothing evil is his fault.
  A religion for slaves and mindless fools.


At one point, it wasn't.
2017-10-06 07:05:55 AM  
1 vote:

aagrajag: How about this: they go free on their merry way after having surrendered their testicles and ovaries?


They are already married.
2017-10-06 06:57:55 AM  
1 vote:

katrina_666: Lady J: It sounds like police are involved, but is this a crime?

Don't get me wrong, it farking should be, but it's not in the US is it, because of religious freedumb bollocks?

This took place in Michagan.


Michagan, Canada  or Michagan in the Basque region?
2017-10-06 06:20:59 AM  
1 vote:

aagrajag: Critical thinking and faith are mutual enemies.


they CAN be, but it is not a requirement.

well...unless you're evangelical.  ignorance is kind of the point of the whole thing.
2017-10-06 06:16:58 AM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.


You can tell a member of the Church of the All-seeing Eye by their departure salutation.

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2017-10-06 06:15:18 AM  
1 vote:
Yeah, stupid parents. You're only allowed to ignore your kids and allow them to die if they are over 5 years old and not in a hot car.
2017-10-06 05:36:20 AM  
1 vote:
The overlap between religion and stupidity/mental illness is as obvious as anything in God's creation.
2017-10-06 03:56:46 AM  
1 vote:
God might be right here and have those assholes locked up for years to keep them from being assholes that are breeding more assholes.
 
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