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2017-10-06 06:57:55 AM  

katrina_666: Lady J: It sounds like police are involved, but is this a crime?

Don't get me wrong, it farking should be, but it's not in the US is it, because of religious freedumb bollocks?

This took place in Michagan.


Michagan, Canada  or Michagan in the Basque region?
 
2017-10-06 06:58:24 AM  

Lady J: It sounds like police are involved, but is this a crime?

Don't get me wrong, it farking should be, but it's not in the US is it, because of religious freedumb bollocks?


Depends on state law. Bunch of states allow this to go unpunished if it occurs due to parents' sincerely held beliefs.
 
2017-10-06 06:59:59 AM  
Very finite minds trying to tell the world what infinite Mind is. Even Jesus ratcheted that communications strategy back a lot and used parables, if you want go into that whole Jesus thing.
 
2017-10-06 07:00:14 AM  
We have to stop that evil bastard before he kills us all!
Man in the Sky Causes Everything
Youtube RlX0Fk-701Q
 
2017-10-06 07:01:26 AM  
Now they need to go to jail, and hopefully be spayed and neutered as the animals they are so that their god won't make anymore mistakes.

Stupid people, why are they practicing a "Sharia Law", out dated bible verses being practiced by lay people, and taking their choice of which proverb to follow over another. They didn't know it was illegal to torture your children and watch them die...? Damn stupid people...
 
2017-10-06 07:02:06 AM  
As Omar, the second Caliph after Mohammed (peace be upon him), was about to enter a city, they realized the people there were stricken with leprosy, iirc. So he decided not to enter the city.
Another of the Prophet's companions said to him "Do you flee from God's fate?!"
He replied "Yes, I flee from God's fate...to God's fate."
 
2017-10-06 07:05:55 AM  

aagrajag: How about this: they go free on their merry way after having surrendered their testicles and ovaries?


They are already married.
 
2017-10-06 07:06:49 AM  

Smoking GNU: Lady J: It sounds like police are involved, but is this a crime?

Don't get me wrong, it farking should be, but it's not in the US is it, because of religious freedumb bollocks?

Depends on state law. Bunch of states allow this to go unpunished if it occurs due to parents' sincerely held beliefs.


That's what I thought. I remember some years ago reading about a couple who let a kid die, then a couple of years later let a second kid die.

I don't think there were any legal consequences.

/blood for the blood god etc etc
 
2017-10-06 07:08:33 AM  

aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.


Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that
 
2017-10-06 07:09:45 AM  

Muzzleloader: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

Never has been.
 It was designed from the ground up as a slaves religion to keep the poor and lessers in line.
  Roll over, stick your ass in the air and yell thank you god, I deserved that ass pounding, give me another.
  Don't worry now, after you die, you will spend forever in paradise and all the bad mean people will get their just rewards.
  Just remember to thank him for the fact that the shiat sandwich you eat every day has any bread at all.
    Oh, and even though he created everything, nothing evil is his fault.
  A religion for slaves and mindless fools.


At one point, it wasn't.
 
2017-10-06 07:11:41 AM  

Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.


A couple of asshats do something evil so you blame the entire religion?  You're better than that.  That's something a Republican would do.
 
2017-10-06 07:11:41 AM  
Despite the fact Abigail wasn't eating properly and coughed up blood, the detective said Ms Piland put the two-day-year old child "near a window wearing just a diaper utilizing a hair dryer to keep her warm".

What horrendous people.
 
2017-10-06 07:13:47 AM  

Resident Muslim: aagrajag: How about this: they go free on their merry way after having surrendered their testicles and ovaries?

They are already married.


Drive drunk; lose your license.

//yes, I know you were joking
 
2017-10-06 07:15:35 AM  

kbronsito: Despite the fact Abigail wasn't eating properly and coughed up blood, the detective said Ms Piland put the two-day-year old child "near a window wearing just a diaper utilizing a hair dryer to keep her warm".

If God doesn't make mistakes, then why use a hair dryer to warn the baby? Room temperature and the sun should had been enough. That baby died because these idolaters placed their faith on their fancy machine instead of the lord. Well, looks like their golden calf was just full of hot air.


That's really summarizing the duality.
You believe in using hairdryers, but somehow medicine is evil?!
 
2017-10-06 07:21:30 AM  

tkwasny: Very finite minds trying to tell the world what infinite Mind is. Even Jesus ratcheted that communications strategy back a lot and used parables, if you want go into that whole Jesus thing.


I can barely manage a janitor named Jake, never mind the Almighty.
 
2017-10-06 07:22:29 AM  

FormlessOne: Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion.


Admit it, you just want an excuse to watch more porn.

/nttawwt
 
2017-10-06 07:23:01 AM  

aagrajag: Resident Muslim: aagrajag: How about this: they go free on their merry way after having surrendered their testicles and ovaries?

They are already married.

Drive drunk; lose your license.

//yes, I know you were joking


:D
 
2017-10-06 07:23:43 AM  

chuggernaught: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

A couple of asshats do something evil so you blame the entire religion?  You're better than that.  That's something a Republican would do.


well, I'm openly pagan living in trumper central so I might be a bit sensitive about the whole 'christanity' thing.  people driving by chanting 'burn the witch' while I walk the dog tends to make me a tad jumpy for at least a couple of weeks afterwards.

if it helps any, the only really horribly bad experience I've personally had with christians has been almost entirely limited to the screeching madness of evangelical christanity.  most other sects tend to impose their faith on us via the standard means of buying votes and politicians just like everyone else.  its the evangelicals who show up and throw things at us at pagan pride events, and shout hellfire and damnation at us with bullhorns.
 
2017-10-06 07:26:01 AM  
God makes no lmistakes. People make mistakes all the damn time, causing God no end of frustration.
 
2017-10-06 07:27:23 AM  

Resident Muslim: aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.

Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that


Hmm. I got handed a bunch of literature on Islam recently, which I've glanced over.

The stuff actually makes a genuine effort to reconcile some of the traditional teaching of the faith, with 21st century society. And it's articulate and interesting, but there comes a point, where two conflicting beliefs meet, where they just have to fudge it. So (I don't know the exact words) women are supposed to be subservient to their husband... there's just no palatable way to say that to a 21st century London woman. So they just fudge it, with a lot of handwaving. And the science booklet is the same.
 
2017-10-06 07:27:47 AM  
So, apparently God wants the parents to rot in prison.  She does work in mysterious ways.
 
2017-10-06 07:28:53 AM  
These two need to be sterilized.
 
2017-10-06 07:38:05 AM  

Lady J: katrina_666: Lady J: It sounds like police are involved, but is this a crime?

Don't get me wrong, it farking should be, but it's not in the US is it, because of religious freedumb bollocks?

This took place in Michagan.

Michagan, Canada  or Michagan in the Basque region?


Other articles I have found about these monstrous people say they live in Lansing.
 
2017-10-06 07:38:23 AM  
God doesn't make mistakes, but since you two are not God, you have free will.  You used your free will to make multiple mistakes.  Accept that you are not God, and you screwed up.  Ignorance and stupidity should hurt.  The only thing I can take away from this, is that one little soul is no long at risk of additional neglect or outright abuse.  I wish there were some way to also have a go at their leader as well.  Sadly, unless a prosecutor can figure out how to term this as some late form of abortion, the evangelical jury of peers will not bat an eye.  Figure out how to make it a form of abortion, and this couple gets life in jail.
 
2017-10-06 07:41:38 AM  

cherryl taggart: God doesn't make mistakes, but since you two are not God, you have free will.  You used your free will to make multiple mistakes.  Accept that you are not God, and you screwed up.  Ignorance and stupidity should hurt.  The only thing I can take away from this, is that one little soul is no long at risk of additional neglect or outright abuse.  I wish there were some way to also have a go at their leader as well.  Sadly, unless a prosecutor can figure out how to term this as some late form of abortion, the evangelical jury of peers will not bat an eye.  Figure out how to make it a form of abortion, and this couple gets life in jail.


A perfect god does not create imperfect creatures, then lament their imperfection and the suffering that is its inevitable result.

Unless, of course, "perfect" implies "evil".
 
2017-10-06 07:47:15 AM  

aagrajag: Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic


Quakers are very big on both. Modern UK Quakerism came about when they realised in the late nineteenth century that their traditional beliefs were incompatible with modern science - physics and biology, mostly - so they had a big conference and changed their doctrine to match what science had seen.
 
2017-10-06 07:48:18 AM  

FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.


You might get a kick out of my profile... just a suggestion.
 
2017-10-06 07:48:44 AM  

Weaver95: FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

i've never understood why the christians tried to claim their god was all knowing and all powerful.  their religion is pretty late to the game....its been around what?  2000 years AT MOST?  less than that even, depending on how you count and which splinter sect we're talking about.  I could maybe see it if the christians just said their god was 'powerful'.  ok, sure.  I can go with that.  but 'all knowing/all powerful'?  c'mon.  that's just not ever going to make sense.


Let me help.

Christians (and coincidentally Jews) beleive the Bible predates in Genesis to the beginning of time "if such an entity even exists"

It doesn't take brains to make a baby, and this is proof. They could also, for all we know, have lost a kid thanks to Donnie Imus and his anti-vaccine crusade
 
2017-10-06 07:48:55 AM  

Weaver95: aagrajag: Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others

actually, there are at least a couple of faiths/religions that demand you study and question the world around you.  Judiasm does, so does neo-paganism and modern heathenry.  eastern religions too I believe, although I couldn't cite specific examples.

islam and christanity tho, they built their political, social and economic power base on creating and maintaining fear, ignorance and unquestioning obedience.


There are offshoots, like the Jesuits, who adore science and reason. The rest, not so much.
 
2017-10-06 07:49:42 AM  
"The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and f*ck up Your Plan?" - George Carlin

See? It's not so much that God f*cked up by giving the kid a treatable disease.
It's that God intended for the kid to die all along. The Divine Plan excuses everything.
 
2017-10-06 07:50:25 AM  

Resident Muslim: Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.


And the Catholic church has no problem with either the Big Bang Theory or evolution. It's fundamentalists who are the problem, not religion.
 
2017-10-06 07:53:14 AM  
Fine with me. God also wants them to spend the next 15-20 in prison.
 
2017-10-06 07:54:38 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There are offshoots, like the Jesuits, who adore science and reason. The rest, not so much.


I like the Jesuits. They're a tough bunch, but they are clever and they worry about stuff. No wonder there has never been a Jesuit pope before.
 
2017-10-06 07:56:53 AM  

Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.


One could argue that organized religion, in general, is not our friend.

Spirituality should be to seek enlightenment, not to confirm our own biases.
 
2017-10-06 07:57:45 AM  

chuggernaught: Weaver95: christanity is not our friend.

A couple of asshats do something evil so you blame the entire religion?  You're better than that.  That's something a Republican would do.


Nope, his Fark persona has gone full-persecuted.
 
2017-10-06 08:06:34 AM  

Weaver95: modern heathenry


OMG!! That's the name of my synthpop band! Thanks for the bump!
 
2017-10-06 08:10:40 AM  
the Pilands' apparent belief in divine healing and the religious group they have been involved in

Hey Catholics...

Prayer for the Protection of Religious Liberty

"O God our Creator, from your provident hand we have received our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You have called us as your people and given us the right and the duty to worship you, the only true God, and your Son, Jesus Christ.
Through the power and working of your Holy Spirit, you call us to live out our faith in the midst of the world, bringing the light and the saving truth of the Gospel to every corner of society.
We ask you to bless us in our vigilance for the gift of religious liberty. Give us the strength of mind and heart to readily defend our freedoms when they are threatened; give us courage in making our voices heard on behalf of the rights of your Church and the freedom of conscience of all people of faith.
Grant, we pray, O heavenly Father, a clear and united voice to all your sons and daughters gathered in your Church in this decisive hour in the history of our nation, so that, with every trial withstood and every danger overcome-for the sake of our children, our grandchildren, and all who come after us-this great land will always be "one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
We ask this through Christ our Lord. Amen."

So are you ready to stand up and fight for for this couple's religious liberty to let their child die? THIS is part of the religious liberty you've been praying for ever since you thought your hospitals might have to give people birth control.
 
2017-10-06 08:15:03 AM  
A rowboat, a powerboat, and a helicopter.
 
2017-10-06 08:21:29 AM  

Lady J: Resident Muslim: aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.

Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that

Hmm. I got handed a bunch of literature on Islam recently, which I've glanced over.

The stuff actually makes a genuine effort to reconcile some of the traditional teaching of the faith, with 21st century society. And it's articulate and interesting, but there comes a point, where two conflicting beliefs meet, where they just have to fudge it. So (I don't know the exact words) women are supposed to be subservient to their husband... there's just no palatable way to say that to a 21st century London woman. So they just fudge it, with a lot of handwaving. And the science booklet is the same.


1) watered-down religion to gain respect is never respected
2) you'd be surprised how many 21st century London women would find it platable to hear that the same guy who is responsible for leading the family* is also responsible for its livelihood, including financially and has NO claims to her money whether gained or inherited. I remember reading a western woman's reaction stating "I would LOVE to be only responsible for raising my child (and taking care of the household)." Her qualm was modern-day society expects women to be breadwinners in addition to the men...and guess what, they are ALSO responsible for most of the childcare duties and taking care of the household. That's most married couples whether we like it or not. Let's not kid ourselves.

/son of a feminist, grandson to a woman entrepreneur whose husband had no claim to her money
//*Leadership, true leadership is not dictatorship
///a lot of people read something such as "a woman who does not respond to her husband's call to the marriage bed and he goes to sleep angry at her, is cursed by angels until dawn" and read subservient. It's funny that they don't notice that this same passage is actually also saying IT IS HER DECISION and the man cannot force her!

////still sucks when it happens. From my side, I do try to clear my heart so that I don't sleep angry at her.
//My love
 
2017-10-06 08:24:31 AM  

Resident Muslim: Lady J: Resident Muslim: aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.

Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that

Hmm. I got handed a bunch of literature on Islam recently, which I've glanced over.

The stuff actually makes a genuine effort to reconcile some of the traditional teaching of the faith, with 21st century society. And it's articulate and interesting, but there comes a point, where two conflicting beliefs meet, where they just have to fudge it. So (I don't know the exact words) women are supposed to be subservient to their husband... there's just no palatable way to say that to a 21st century London woman. So they just fudge it, with a lot of handwaving. And the science booklet is the same.

1) watered-down religion to gain respect is never respected
2) you'd be surprised how many 21st century London women would find it platable to hear that the same guy who is responsible for leading the family* is also responsible for its livelihood, including financially and has NO claims to her money whether gained or inherited. I remember reading a western woman's reaction stating "I would LOVE to be only responsible for raising my child (and taking care of the household)." Her qualm was modern-day society expects women to be breadwinners in addition to the men...and guess what, they are ALSO responsible for most of the childcare duties and taking care of the household. That's most married couples whether we like it or not. Let's not kid ourselves.

/son of a feminist, grandson to a woman entrepreneur whose husband had no claim to her money
//*Leadership, true leadership is not dictatorship
///a lot of people read something such as "a woman who does not respond to her husband's call to the marriage bed and he goes to sleep angry at her, is cursed by angels until dawn" and read subservient. It's funny that they don't notice that this same passage is actually also saying IT IS HER DECISION and the man cannot force her!

////still sucks when it happens. From my side, I do try to clear my heart so that I don't sleep angry at her.
//My love


Let me know where you felt they fudged science and I'll have a go at it.
 
2017-10-06 08:28:25 AM  

FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.


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2017-10-06 08:30:29 AM  
If you walk down the street of any modestly-sized town in the world, with your eyes open, you will realize that God* makes mistakes constantly.

*for diverse values of "God"
 
2017-10-06 08:35:25 AM  

Resident Muslim: aagrajag: Weaver95: bigfatbuddhist: That's some weapons-grade stupid saying, "Well, my kid's dead; but, it's okay because that's exactly what God wanted.  I, on the other hand, will continue to look both ways when I cross the street..."

that's evangelical christianity for you.  its not a faith that encourages introspection or logic.

Respectfully, Weav, no faith encourages introspection on logic; that's why it's called "faith". Some are merely worse offenders than others.

Respectfully disagree.
A lot of parts of the Islamic faith ask us to observe both creation and ourselves.

/a lot of today's science stems from that


None of today's science stems from that.
Your religion, like most of the others, commands you to accept "God did it." as the ultimate answer to every question.
 
2017-10-06 08:45:23 AM  

WDFark think for a second: Faith Tech ministries


It is less a church than a school whose headquarters is located in a lovely residential neighborhood.

/money money moneyyyy
//money
///and a third slashie as a tip
 
2017-10-06 08:47:21 AM  
Good. I'm glad they're being charged and I hope they enjoy the sentence that gets handed down. If they like, they can pretend god is "testing" them.
 
2017-10-06 08:50:52 AM  

Resident Muslim: kbronsito: Despite the fact Abigail wasn't eating properly and coughed up blood, the detective said Ms Piland put the two-day-year old child "near a window wearing just a diaper utilizing a hair dryer to keep her warm".

If God doesn't make mistakes, then why use a hair dryer to warn the baby? Room temperature and the sun should had been enough. That baby died because these idolaters placed their faith on their fancy machine instead of the lord. Well, looks like their golden calf was just full of hot air.

That's really summarizing the duality.
You believe in using hairdryers, but somehow medicine is evil?!


They were *almost* there with the window.  They could have rented a UV light crib from a medical supply house, but they probably didn't know that.  A doctor could have told them, though.
 
2017-10-06 08:56:16 AM  
For those who aren't aware, the primary treatment for jaundice in infants is UV light, because it breaks down the bilirubin (responsible for the yellow color) near the surface of the skin.  This can keep the child healthy until their liver can kick in and do the job itself.
 
2017-10-06 08:56:18 AM  

FormlessOne: Hilarious. Y'know, the thing that I find most interesting about the concept of a deity is that, for all we know, if such an entity even exists, the only true "act" that entity probably performed was to force a superposition to collapse into a position for the first damned time, ever, by observing it, and that everything that occurred after that was entirely driven by observation, not action.

Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.

Or, I could just be really bored because I can't sleep and I'm taking a break from writing documentation about open source database implementations.


God is an Observer? I sincerely doubt that a god could fall victim to the yodeling of Jimmy Rodgers.
 
2017-10-06 09:01:41 AM  

big pig peaches: This is a condition that can literally be treated by shining light on the baby. I believe even bright sunlight can help.

 Ultraviolet light.
 
2017-10-06 09:02:34 AM  

FormlessOne: Of course that God makes no mistakes - He does nothing, good or bad, but merely watches. Perhaps we could wrap a religion around the Prime Observer, and make observation a sacred ritual. Imagine the fun - suddenly, the first true act of the scientific method is also the First Act of the One True Religion. We are made in that God's image because, like God, our act of observation changes both observer and observed, and the more observed the phenomenon, the more influence the observers have upon it - in other words, like God, we, too, can change reality through observation. We develop a catechism that includes all who observe, without discrimination - indeed, "God's creatures" are defined by their ability to effect observation great enough to influence quantum events.


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