NotARocketScientist: FTFA: Those apparently rude drivers are putting more of the roadway to use and thus helping speed things along, in much the same way water flows faster through a funnel than through a straw.Damn I hate it when people maul physics. Water flows faster through a funnel because there is increased pressure and the water has someplace it can go, so it does. We are not physically pushing cars through - the amount of traffic behind you doesn't increase your speed.The fastest way to move things is with laminar (smooth) flow. The ONLY way that can happen with people merging at the last minute is if all of the cars have plenty of space between them. That doesn't happen because the cars behind are going faster than the cars in front, so they bunch up. People trying to get in at the last minute disturb the laminar flow of traffic. Someone has to slow further/stop for that dick-weed to get in, which slows the process more, making people bunch up more and around we go on the vicious cycle thing.
dyhchong: What a poorly built website.*loads entire page*Then tries to redirect you to the more local version because... Page load times?Literally got pictures and started reading the article when this popped up. The most local version is now already on my phone.[img.fark.net image 422x750]
UsikFark: dyhchong: What a poorly built website.*loads entire page*Then tries to redirect you to the more local version because... Page load times?Literally got pictures and started reading the article when this popped up. The most local version is now already on my phone.[img.fark.net image 422x750]Should a website redirect as soon as possible or should it wait to redirect until the page actually loads? Here comes the science.
Befuddled: Those apparently rude drivers are putting more of the roadway to use and thus helping speed things along.No, they are not. They are creating a bigger bottleneck where the lane ends. They benefit at the expense of everyone behind them. If their explanation made sense, then the way you change from four lanes to one is shut all three lanes at once rather than one at a time gradually.
pikov.yndropov: semi irrelevant pro tip:I like to go to the almost empty left-turn lane when the lights are red. As soon as it turns green, you can almost guarantee that some shiathead will be looking down at their phone. Viola. Now you don't have to wait through three light changes./and they will probably just get moving when they are 800ft behind you.
Dhusk: Won't work.Why?Because we're all still just basically monkeys in shoes. Like economics, traffic works the way it does much more because of human psychology rather than any kind of objective mathematical logic. If we see someone 'unfairly' getting ahead of us, of course we're going to screech and caper about and throw our feces at him.The ONLY way the 'zipper merge' will ever become widespread and accepted is with self-driving cars.
HighOnCraic: Blair picks me up from LAX and mutters this under her breath as she drives up the onramp. She says, "People are afraid to merge on freeways in Los Angeles." Though that sentence shouldn't bother me, it stays in my mind for an uncomfortably long time. Nothing else seems to matter. Not the fact that I'm eighteen and it's December and the ride on the plane had been rough and the couple from Santa Barbara, who were sitting across from me in first class, had gotten pretty drunk.
inglixthemad: wejash: I'm not giving Inc a click for another "zippers are good" story. One-a-month is enough.Zipper merge traffic theory ignores basic human behavior. Many people go flying up the closing lane as quickly as possible, to pass as many cars as possible, then a split second turn signal, cut right in front of someone, and hit the brakes so they don't rear-end the car now in front of them, and cause a sea of brake lights because everyone now has slow down quickly because they're an arse, resulting in a pretty good traffic jam. Because it's so slow in the one lane, more impatient people keep flying up the closing lane, and cutting people off while merging, in a vicious feedback loop, causing more slowness.Zipper merging is one of those things that works great in theory, but it doesn't take many drivers being jerks for it to turn into a monumental clusterf*ck traffic jam and cause accidents.
fusillade762: Dunno, but they should get the fark out of my way when I drive up behind them in a parking lot. I waited a full 30 seconds for this idiot to move earlier tonight before honking. He then pulls up to the light and when it turns green he just sits there. I wait ten seconds then honk again. Then this inattentive dickbag has the nerve to flip ME off./nscsb
RobotSpider: BafflerMeal: Write tickets. Fix arsehole problem.Because parking a cop and pulling over cars will totally improve the flow of traffic.
BafflerMeal: Write tickets. Fix arsehole problem.
BafflerMeal: RobotSpider: Christ, not this again. It ONLY works if EVERYONE is playing by the same rules which, no, they're not. As soon as two cars from the same lane trying to squeeze in, the whole system breaks down.Make it a law to allow alternate cars in. Write tickets. Fix arsehole problem.Works great here.
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