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(The New York Times)   Harvey Weinstein has been sexually harassing and assaulting young women for the last 20 years, including Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd, and has quietly paid multiple 5- and 6-figure settlements   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-10-05 05:20:27 PM  
52 votes:

netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.


checks profile
Has your daughter ever expressed any interest in acting?  If she came home crying because a creepy old guy made her give him a "massage" you might care.  All those women he harassed are someone's daughters.
2017-10-05 05:16:59 PM  
26 votes:

fly_gal: Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....


Or the fear of their careers and livelihoods being destroyed by a powerful vindictive rapist.

Yea I said it, rapist.  If it went as far as the stories in TFA I'm sure it went further.
2017-10-05 05:29:05 PM  
20 votes:
Seriously, though, the creepiest part about this whole deal is that it sounds like Weinstein's done this so often that his company has a standard settlement amount & contract, and that even discussing the criminal aspect of what he's done is somehow banned.

No contract should prevent you from blowing the whistle on criminal activity. Unwanted sexual contact is a criminal act. Why is this asshole not in jail?

And, yeah, it's a rhetorical question with an obvious answer - "because he's rich" - but I had to ask it anyway. It's becoming more and more clear that, in America, that justice isn't blind - it's gated, and there's a VIP room.
2017-10-05 09:55:59 PM  
17 votes:

vudukungfu: Mugato: Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!

If she had put the money in the bank, it would have been nice.
She gave it apparently to Mickey Rourke's plastic surgeon.


Well she only had her face peeled off in a car accident.
2017-10-05 04:44:15 PM  
16 votes:
this wont bat an eye at Fark
2017-10-06 02:14:09 AM  
15 votes:

Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.


img.fark.net

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand
2017-10-05 05:20:27 PM  
15 votes:

netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.


Yeah sexual harassment

who the fark cares

/lulz
2017-10-06 02:57:48 AM  
13 votes:
Liberals post to condemn the guy.  Conservatives post to condemn liberals.  Neat.
2017-10-05 11:11:19 PM  
13 votes:

JudgeSmails: MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!

i'm a liberal and i'm disgusted by him and everyone one that knew he was doing this.  don't be so quick to accuse us as giving this asshole a pass.


Everyone in this thread has said the same.

MilesTeg is projecting.
2017-10-05 05:32:23 PM  
13 votes:

gilgigamesh: FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"

Heh. Me too.

I'm not totally sure who this is. Heard the name, know he's associated with movies, don't really care beyond that.


He produces, hence nobody remembers the name.  I am sure you have seen this logo though -
img.fark.net
He is one of the more powerful people in Hollywood.
2017-10-06 02:38:35 AM  
11 votes:

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

[img.fark.net image 742x778]


I love that logic.  "I'll go after the NRA, that will curry favor with my Hollywood peers and they'll forget about the decades of sexual harassment."

I mean maybe it will work.  Look at Roman Polanski, he drugged and sodomized a 13-year old and people defend him all the time, right here on Fark.  All because he's such a "gifted artist" and of course, the Holocaust, so he was traumatized or something therefore isn't a child-rapist.
2017-10-06 02:12:41 AM  
11 votes:

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

[img.fark.net image 742x778]


You'd think he would've realized it was wrong after the first time he was sued and had to set up a settlement process for each subsequent lawsuit.
2017-10-05 11:08:45 PM  
11 votes:

MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!


i'm a liberal and i'm disgusted by him and everyone one that knew he was doing this.  don't be so quick to accuse us as giving this asshole a pass.
2017-10-05 11:02:39 PM  
11 votes:
Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!
2017-10-05 06:30:52 PM  
11 votes:

FormlessOne: Seriously, though, the creepiest part about this whole deal is that it sounds like Weinstein's done this so often that his company has a standard settlement amount & contract, and that even discussing the criminal aspect of what he's done is somehow banned.

No contract should prevent you from blowing the whistle on criminal activity. Unwanted sexual contact is a criminal act. Why is this asshole not in jail?

And, yeah, it's a rhetorical question with an obvious answer - "because he's rich" - but I had to ask it anyway. It's becoming more and more clear that, in America, that justice isn't blind - it's gated, and there's a VIP room.


As Terry Pratchett said (or had one of his characters say), 'privilege' literally means 'private law'.
2017-10-06 12:06:02 AM  
9 votes:
And all this time I thought the worst thing he ever did was buy the best picture Oscar for Shakespeare in Love
2017-10-05 06:05:37 PM  
9 votes:
So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.
2017-10-06 10:07:19 AM  
8 votes:
img.fark.net
2017-10-05 09:41:48 PM  
8 votes:
Young women? Wow, that's pretty tame compared to the other stuff you hear rumors about in Hollywood.

/pours one out for the Coreys
2017-10-05 10:56:18 PM  
7 votes:

Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.


How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.
2017-10-05 05:02:47 PM  
7 votes:

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.
2017-10-05 04:55:29 PM  
7 votes:
That shiat is so creepy.
2017-10-06 05:17:13 AM  
6 votes:

peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.


Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?
2017-10-05 11:07:24 PM  
6 votes:
This has been an "open secret" about him forever.
2017-10-05 05:22:51 PM  
6 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: [img.fark.net image 500x363]


I will never, ever, never, not laugh at that gif.

Not ever.
2017-10-06 07:29:27 AM  
5 votes:

js34603: Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.


The funny part is when trump made the grabbing pussy comment he was a registered Democrat
2017-10-05 11:01:48 PM  
5 votes:
It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching. I should leave that to the professional Farkers. I have no stomach for this shiat.
2017-10-05 05:20:44 PM  
5 votes:
My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"
2017-10-05 05:19:14 PM  
5 votes:

Callous: fly_gal: Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....

Or the fear of their careers and livelihoods being destroyed by a powerful vindictive rapist.

Yea I said it, rapist.  If it went as far as the stories in TFA I'm sure it went further.


Oh for sure!  I'll condone your use of rapist.  I just wasn't really "shocked" but this article.
2017-10-06 08:37:05 AM  
4 votes:

puffy999: if_i_really_have_to: Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.

Fat ugly men don't need to "try" if they have money. That's what makes this ridiculous. Forget the idea that, sadly, people are so pathetic that they will fall for someone for power regardless of their attraction, but this guy could spend his life on a pillow of hookers and not go broke.


Especially when they have the power to destroy careers and livelihoods.
2017-10-05 11:38:47 PM  
4 votes:
Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

img.fark.net
2017-10-05 11:00:01 PM  
4 votes:

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


In 1942!
2017-10-05 05:25:21 PM  
4 votes:

Callous: netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.

checks profile
Has your daughter ever expressed any interest in acting?  If she came home crying because a creepy old guy made her give him a "massage" you might care.  All those women he harassed are someone's daughters.


Not quite my point, but I get what you're saying.
2017-10-05 05:15:54 PM  
4 votes:
Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.
2017-10-05 04:55:24 PM  
4 votes:
Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.
2017-10-06 10:45:19 AM  
3 votes:

Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.


If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.
2017-10-06 09:31:05 AM  
3 votes:

Warrior Kermit: AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too

how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.


If only there were a huge story about that a couple of years ago. If only.
2017-10-06 02:16:39 AM  
3 votes:

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


That doesn't answer the question.
2017-10-05 11:34:46 PM  
3 votes:

MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!


Says the farker in a thread full of "liberal" farkers calling it terrible. You obviously don't read the threads before sharing your verbal blumpkins with us.


Also........ Add me as one more who upon hearing this news, my first reaction was, "Wait... harassing WOMEN? But, I thought he was gay?!?!"
2017-10-05 11:26:16 PM  
3 votes:
His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

img.fark.net
2017-10-05 08:26:08 PM  
3 votes:

Flatulent_Flea: See? SEE?
 bsabsvr


As a lib, this is the sort of behavior that is repulsive, and the perpetrator should be shunned.

As a con, is this guy available to take over for Trump?
2017-10-06 11:27:01 AM  
2 votes:

Tor_Eckman: Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.

If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.


This is factually incorrect.
2017-10-06 11:24:46 AM  
2 votes:

skyotter: Liberals post to condemn the guy.  Conservatives post to condemn liberals.  Neat.


Weinstein is a douche and what he did should have been criminal.

As an aside, the weird homophobic stuff thrown in upthread was... weird.

There! This conservative condemned both.
2017-10-06 11:10:10 AM  
2 votes:
What a shiatbag.  TWC board of directors is himself, his brother, and David O. Russell.  A board that incapable of dealing with a dirtbag CEO (ie. a board that is so dominated by the CEO and his family) is bullshiat.
2017-10-06 11:02:16 AM  
2 votes:

vudukungfu: you ask a lot from shaved apes


Some of us can't even be bothered to shave!

We're intelligent to understand our own worst impulses (see: all the research on cognitive bias) and intelligent to engineer systems where checks and balances occur. So it's possible. Shining light on dark corners is a good start.
2017-10-06 10:58:19 AM  
2 votes:

Warrior Kermit: if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option


The tricky thing here is the power imbalance. For some reason a lot of people find this hard to understand, but if you're in an industry where your success depends almost entirely on word-of-mouth reputation and not pissing powerful people off and you can very easily be replaced by the next it girl, you feel a LOT of pressure to give these assholes what they want. And their behaviour is normalized so it's easy to think it's you that have the problem.

Acting is a shiatty, shiatty job, especially for women. I hope the growth of indy projects and maybe (?) the death of the big studios lets women shine (in front and behind the camera), holds people in power accountable, and spreads the power around more evenly. Call me an optimist.
2017-10-06 10:50:07 AM  
2 votes:

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


It's sad how complacent people are about this. Common does not equal OK.

I mean, domestic violence is fairly common. Doesn't mean it's not illegal or wrong. Or that the victims are to blame, or are responsible for mitigating violent/dangerous/gross situations.

I mean, really. Step it up, humanity.
2017-10-06 07:37:09 AM  
2 votes:

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.


So, are you a Veteran or Active Duty with two years to go? Or is this the remainder of your 8 year IRR contract?  Out of curiosity, what branch/MOS?

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


/I'm not him, but just in case you're wondering, 4.
2017-10-06 03:41:06 AM  
2 votes:

lindalouwho: This has been an "open secret" about him forever.


Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.
2017-10-05 11:21:03 PM  
2 votes:

Non Sequitur Man: It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching.


No it's not.
2017-10-05 11:04:22 PM  
2 votes:
and that awful statement issued through his lawyer about fighting the nra,just no. Fark off Harvey,lots of us liberals will not stick with you so don't bother.
2017-10-05 06:15:34 PM  
2 votes:

FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"


Yup, I was scrolling thru the threads too fast "Wait, what??"
2017-10-05 05:06:05 PM  
2 votes:

Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.


I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....
2017-10-06 06:24:49 PM  
1 vote:
Huh ? I thought he would have went for dudes .
2017-10-06 01:48:26 PM  
1 vote:

BeotchPudding: Bill Cosby: *rage*
Weinstein: *meh, who cares*

Dems/Libs: 'It's okay when we do it'


Literally the only people in this thread saying that are the people projecting that view onto libs.  And you're not even the first person in this thread to try it.  You're like 5th most original troll.  Congrats!
2017-10-06 01:36:23 PM  
1 vote:
Bill Cosby: *rage*
Weinstein: *meh, who cares*

Dems/Libs: 'It's okay when we do it'
2017-10-06 01:14:45 PM  
1 vote:
Mugato:
I live in LA six months out of the year. Hollywood, the big shots are predominantly Jewish, of course they're going to identify as Democrats. That doesn't make them liberal.

The other thing that non-Californians have trouble comprehending is that a lot of what the rest of the country considers "liberal issues" are non-controversial positions out here.  In SoCal, it is 100% normal to find a very conservative, rich, white professional (the kind of person who would donate deep 5-figures to a GOP super-PAC without blinking) who views anthropogenic climate science as a settled issue and gay marriage as a given and silly to spend time on.  Some are pro-legalization, some are pro-immigrant.  (Similarly, outside of the dense urban populations, I know many "liberals" with some very non-Democratic-party views on 2nd amendment, immigration, etc.)

It isn't so much that our "overton window" has slid left or anything like that, its just that the California middle area tends to be more "mushy".  Of my personal acquaintances like those above, their views on other issues look a lot more mainstream GOP/conservative (or even into "hard-right" territory), so there's definitely still a "left" and "right", but California is a very different place.
2017-10-06 12:42:01 PM  
1 vote:

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


I live in LA six months out of the year. Hollywood, the big shots are predominantly Jewish, of course they're going to identify as Democrats. That doesn't make them liberal.
2017-10-06 09:06:07 AM  
1 vote:

Huggermugger: Why not just hire hookers? Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.


I was wondering the say thing, but I bet he gets off on sexually harassing a rising star.  What a loser.
2017-10-06 08:57:56 AM  
1 vote:

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


Better to know a rapist than be one and lots of people, people I trust, believe me, say Trump is one.
2017-10-06 07:47:34 AM  
1 vote:
Why not just hire hookers?  Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.
2017-10-06 07:00:47 AM  
1 vote:
Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.
2017-10-06 02:50:36 AM  
1 vote:

gunther_bumpass: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.

Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...

Another brave moment from the guy who gave us "we saw your boobs".


Indeed.
2017-10-06 02:43:46 AM  
1 vote:

puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.


Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...
2017-10-06 02:37:40 AM  
1 vote:

BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.


Same way liberals serve in the military.
2017-10-06 02:15:20 AM  
1 vote:
Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too
2017-10-06 12:36:33 AM  
1 vote:
Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.
2017-10-05 11:49:43 PM  
1 vote:

sirrerun: Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

[img.fark.net image 376x482]


You're not the only one. I always assumed Weinstein was gay until I realized he wasn't Fierstein. Which happened literally 30 seconds before I saw your post.
2017-10-05 11:40:54 PM  
1 vote:

sirrerun: Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

[img.fark.net image 376x482]


this guy could make sexual harassment funny.
2017-10-05 11:27:42 PM  
1 vote:

This text is now purple: Non Sequitur Man: It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching.

No it's not.


I wish I had your intestinal fortitude.

/or not
2017-10-05 11:10:07 PM  
1 vote:
Shoulda sent him:

www.kropserkel.com
2017-10-05 09:35:42 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!


If she had put the money in the bank, it would have been nice.
She gave it apparently to Mickey Rourke's plastic surgeon.
2017-10-05 09:01:59 PM  
1 vote:
Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!
2017-10-05 06:19:13 PM  
1 vote:
Thread needs a reaction gif of Jennifer Lawrence watching Harvey shower.
 
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