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(The New York Times)   Harvey Weinstein has been sexually harassing and assaulting young women for the last 20 years, including Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd, and has quietly paid multiple 5- and 6-figure settlements   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-10-06 12:05:32 AM  
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Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.
 
2017-10-06 12:06:02 AM  
And all this time I thought the worst thing he ever did was buy the best picture Oscar for Shakespeare in Love
 
2017-10-06 12:36:33 AM  
Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.
 
2017-10-06 12:42:13 AM  
I barely was aware this guy existed but still knew he was a legendary asshole. When that happens, you know he's bad.
 
2017-10-06 01:11:11 AM  

BizarreMan: So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.


Um, & the 25 years before that he was a Buffalo, NY Rock Concert Promoter. You know those guys were Salt Of The Earth types;http://www.buffalospree.com/Buffalo-Spree/April-2015/Harvey-We​instein-​and-the-birth-of-Miramax-Films/
 
2017-10-06 01:16:23 AM  

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Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.


Eyewitnesses everywhere
 
2017-10-06 02:12:41 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

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You'd think he would've realized it was wrong after the first time he was sued and had to set up a settlement process for each subsequent lawsuit.
 
2017-10-06 02:14:09 AM  

Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.


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My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand
 
2017-10-06 02:15:20 AM  
Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too
 
2017-10-06 02:16:39 AM  

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

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My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


That doesn't answer the question.
 
2017-10-06 02:21:54 AM  

puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.


No doubt that was the choice for those who crossed paths with this guy. Play ball or go home.

For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.
 
2017-10-06 02:33:39 AM  
I imagine it's a form you fill out while waiting in the lobby. You go in, get sexually harassed, and a check arrives in 4-6 weeks along with a gift basket.
 
2017-10-06 02:34:14 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.


No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.
 
2017-10-06 02:37:40 AM  

BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.


Same way liberals serve in the military.
 
2017-10-06 02:38:35 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

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I love that logic.  "I'll go after the NRA, that will curry favor with my Hollywood peers and they'll forget about the decades of sexual harassment."

I mean maybe it will work.  Look at Roman Polanski, he drugged and sodomized a 13-year old and people defend him all the time, right here on Fark.  All because he's such a "gifted artist" and of course, the Holocaust, so he was traumatized or something therefore isn't a child-rapist.
 
2017-10-06 02:43:46 AM  

puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.


Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...
 
2017-10-06 02:46:14 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.

Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...


Another brave moment from the guy who gave us "we saw your boobs".
 
2017-10-06 02:50:36 AM  

gunther_bumpass: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.

Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...

Another brave moment from the guy who gave us "we saw your boobs".


Indeed.
 
2017-10-06 02:57:48 AM  
Liberals post to condemn the guy.  Conservatives post to condemn liberals.  Neat.
 
2017-10-06 03:41:06 AM  

lindalouwho: This has been an "open secret" about him forever.


Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.
 
2017-10-06 03:55:58 AM  
So when does he run for President?
 
2017-10-06 04:40:57 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.


Fat ugly men don't need to "try" if they have money. That's what makes this ridiculous. Forget the idea that, sadly, people are so pathetic that they will fall for someone for power regardless of their attraction, but this guy could spend his life on a pillow of hookers and not go broke.
 
2017-10-06 04:56:33 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

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It's kind of funny when you read that in his voice.

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2017-10-06 05:17:13 AM  

peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.


Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?
 
2017-10-06 07:00:47 AM  
Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.
 
2017-10-06 07:29:27 AM  

js34603: Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.


The funny part is when trump made the grabbing pussy comment he was a registered Democrat
 
2017-10-06 07:37:09 AM  

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.


So, are you a Veteran or Active Duty with two years to go? Or is this the remainder of your 8 year IRR contract?  Out of curiosity, what branch/MOS?

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


/I'm not him, but just in case you're wondering, 4.
 
2017-10-06 07:47:34 AM  
Why not just hire hookers?  Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.
 
2017-10-06 08:37:05 AM  

puffy999: if_i_really_have_to: Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.

Fat ugly men don't need to "try" if they have money. That's what makes this ridiculous. Forget the idea that, sadly, people are so pathetic that they will fall for someone for power regardless of their attraction, but this guy could spend his life on a pillow of hookers and not go broke.


Especially when they have the power to destroy careers and livelihoods.
 
2017-10-06 08:45:32 AM  

AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too


if you've seen a Tarantino movie. . .
 
2017-10-06 08:56:36 AM  

SoupGuru: Young women? Wow, that's pretty tame compared to the other stuff you hear rumors about in HollywoodWashington.

/pours one out for the Coreys

 
2017-10-06 08:57:56 AM  

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


Better to know a rapist than be one and lots of people, people I trust, believe me, say Trump is one.
 
2017-10-06 09:00:09 AM  

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


Don't pay him any attention.  He likes to troll the entertainment tab.  I'm guessing he must be butthurt in the real world to spend so much time annoying other Farkers with his wharrgarbl.
 
2017-10-06 09:06:07 AM  

Huggermugger: Why not just hire hookers? Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.


I was wondering the say thing, but I bet he gets off on sexually harassing a rising star.  What a loser.
 
2017-10-06 09:26:55 AM  

AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too


how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.
 
2017-10-06 09:31:05 AM  

Warrior Kermit: AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too

how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.


If only there were a huge story about that a couple of years ago. If only.
 
2017-10-06 09:41:22 AM  

Moopy Mac: huge story


and just how big of a story is this I can't tell over the outrage that went with it..
 
2017-10-06 09:46:33 AM  

BizarreMan: So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.


Where can I get this training on how to sexually harass young women?
 
2017-10-06 09:54:40 AM  

puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.


Which is why *you* aren't a leading lady.

It's sick, but the girls who would do it probably far out-numbered those who wouldn't.

If a middle-aged woman (read: cougar) asked me to service her in exchange for a leading role in a movie...I'd probably do it.

/even if she was ugly and fat
//still rape
///still not acceptable, he should be in jail
 
2017-10-06 10:07:19 AM  
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2017-10-06 10:07:37 AM  

ColonelCathcart: puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.

Which is why *you* aren't a leading lady.

It's sick, but the girls who would do it probably far out-numbered those who wouldn't.

If a middle-aged woman (read: cougar) asked me to service her in exchange for a leading role in a movie...I'd probably do it.

/even if she was ugly and fat
//still rape
///still not acceptable, he should be in jail


if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option
 
2017-10-06 10:11:16 AM  
This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.
 
2017-10-06 10:45:19 AM  

Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.


If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.
 
2017-10-06 10:45:46 AM  
Seems the only way for a noob female to get that "big break" is to submit to the casting couch, or do a gratuitous nude scene in the movie.

Sandra Bullock in "Fire On The Amazon" (which is a really bad movie) and Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood" come to mind for the latter.

I guess the another way is simply to do all the nude stuff on social media first, wear next to nothing for all the big Hollywood parties, or "someone" drops your sex tape off at TMZ.  Then wait around to see if anyone takes the bait.
 
2017-10-06 10:50:07 AM  

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


It's sad how complacent people are about this. Common does not equal OK.

I mean, domestic violence is fairly common. Doesn't mean it's not illegal or wrong. Or that the victims are to blame, or are responsible for mitigating violent/dangerous/gross situations.

I mean, really. Step it up, humanity.
 
2017-10-06 10:54:02 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.

If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.


Sorry, I meant people attacking liberals think it feels good to them, not me. I'm actually a liberal 😉
 
2017-10-06 10:54:41 AM  

Cynicism101: Step it up, humanity.


you ask a lot from shaved apes
 
2017-10-06 10:57:07 AM  
Another liberal vet here, and I also despise everything about this man- except his money.  I'm perfectly OK with his money and would welcome it into my life with open arms.
 
2017-10-06 10:58:19 AM  

Warrior Kermit: if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option


The tricky thing here is the power imbalance. For some reason a lot of people find this hard to understand, but if you're in an industry where your success depends almost entirely on word-of-mouth reputation and not pissing powerful people off and you can very easily be replaced by the next it girl, you feel a LOT of pressure to give these assholes what they want. And their behaviour is normalized so it's easy to think it's you that have the problem.

Acting is a shiatty, shiatty job, especially for women. I hope the growth of indy projects and maybe (?) the death of the big studios lets women shine (in front and behind the camera), holds people in power accountable, and spreads the power around more evenly. Call me an optimist.
 
2017-10-06 11:02:16 AM  

vudukungfu: you ask a lot from shaved apes


Some of us can't even be bothered to shave!

We're intelligent to understand our own worst impulses (see: all the research on cognitive bias) and intelligent to engineer systems where checks and balances occur. So it's possible. Shining light on dark corners is a good start.
 
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