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(The New York Times)   Harvey Weinstein has been sexually harassing and assaulting young women for the last 20 years, including Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd, and has quietly paid multiple 5- and 6-figure settlements   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2017-10-05 04:44:15 PM  
this wont bat an eye at Fark
 
2017-10-05 04:55:24 PM  
Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.
 
2017-10-05 04:55:29 PM  
That shiat is so creepy.
 
2017-10-05 04:57:54 PM  
Welp. Set him on fire.
 
2017-10-05 05:02:47 PM  

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.
 
2017-10-05 05:06:05 PM  

Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.


I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....
 
2017-10-05 05:11:11 PM  
See? SEE?
 bsabsvr
 
2017-10-05 05:15:39 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 05:15:54 PM  
Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.
 
2017-10-05 05:16:59 PM  

fly_gal: Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....


Or the fear of their careers and livelihoods being destroyed by a powerful vindictive rapist.

Yea I said it, rapist.  If it went as far as the stories in TFA I'm sure it went further.
 
2017-10-05 05:19:14 PM  

Callous: fly_gal: Callous: fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.

As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

I think that the desire to be famous overrides people's self respect most times.  I mean... if she really wants the role....

Or the fear of their careers and livelihoods being destroyed by a powerful vindictive rapist.

Yea I said it, rapist.  If it went as far as the stories in TFA I'm sure it went further.


Oh for sure!  I'll condone your use of rapist.  I just wasn't really "shocked" but this article.
 
2017-10-05 05:20:27 PM  

netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.


checks profile
Has your daughter ever expressed any interest in acting?  If she came home crying because a creepy old guy made her give him a "massage" you might care.  All those women he harassed are someone's daughters.
 
2017-10-05 05:20:27 PM  

netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.


Yeah sexual harassment

who the fark cares

/lulz
 
2017-10-05 05:20:44 PM  
My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"
 
2017-10-05 05:22:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: [img.fark.net image 500x363]


I will never, ever, never, not laugh at that gif.

Not ever.
 
2017-10-05 05:24:41 PM  

FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"


Heh. Me too.

I'm not totally sure who this is. Heard the name, know he's associated with movies, don't really care beyond that.
 
2017-10-05 05:25:21 PM  

Callous: netizencain: Sorry, but I'm in the 'who cares' camp over here.

checks profile
Has your daughter ever expressed any interest in acting?  If she came home crying because a creepy old guy made her give him a "massage" you might care.  All those women he harassed are someone's daughters.


Not quite my point, but I get what you're saying.
 
2017-10-05 05:27:35 PM  

gilgigamesh: FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"

Heh. Me too.

I'm not totally sure who this is. Heard the name, know he's associated with movies, don't really care beyond that.


I had to google him.  I assumed he was associated with movies/television based off the headline.
 
2017-10-05 05:29:05 PM  
Seriously, though, the creepiest part about this whole deal is that it sounds like Weinstein's done this so often that his company has a standard settlement amount & contract, and that even discussing the criminal aspect of what he's done is somehow banned.

No contract should prevent you from blowing the whistle on criminal activity. Unwanted sexual contact is a criminal act. Why is this asshole not in jail?

And, yeah, it's a rhetorical question with an obvious answer - "because he's rich" - but I had to ask it anyway. It's becoming more and more clear that, in America, that justice isn't blind - it's gated, and there's a VIP room.
 
2017-10-05 05:32:23 PM  

gilgigamesh: FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"

Heh. Me too.

I'm not totally sure who this is. Heard the name, know he's associated with movies, don't really care beyond that.


He produces, hence nobody remembers the name.  I am sure you have seen this logo though -
img.fark.net
He is one of the more powerful people in Hollywood.
 
2017-10-05 05:32:49 PM  
"Thanks for showing me how Hollywood works," as a response to ostensibly winning a hush settlement seems like an odd thing to do. Either it's really sarcastic or she's lording her victory over him. In either case, some of the things described in the article seem like the actions of a caricature of an eccentric Hollywood exec. He said, she said, they got their settlements, and others likely will too. Shame it has to be at the expense of someone's dignity.
 
2017-10-05 06:05:37 PM  
So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.
 
2017-10-05 06:15:34 PM  

FormlessOne: My first reaction when I read that headline was... "but Harvey Fierstein's gay...?"


Yup, I was scrolling thru the threads too fast "Wait, what??"
 
2017-10-05 06:19:13 PM  
Thread needs a reaction gif of Jennifer Lawrence watching Harvey shower.
 
2017-10-05 06:30:52 PM  

FormlessOne: Seriously, though, the creepiest part about this whole deal is that it sounds like Weinstein's done this so often that his company has a standard settlement amount & contract, and that even discussing the criminal aspect of what he's done is somehow banned.

No contract should prevent you from blowing the whistle on criminal activity. Unwanted sexual contact is a criminal act. Why is this asshole not in jail?

And, yeah, it's a rhetorical question with an obvious answer - "because he's rich" - but I had to ask it anyway. It's becoming more and more clear that, in America, that justice isn't blind - it's gated, and there's a VIP room.


As Terry Pratchett said (or had one of his characters say), 'privilege' literally means 'private law'.
 
2017-10-05 08:26:08 PM  

Flatulent_Flea: See? SEE?
 bsabsvr


As a lib, this is the sort of behavior that is repulsive, and the perpetrator should be shunned.

As a con, is this guy available to take over for Trump?
 
2017-10-05 09:01:59 PM  
Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!
 
2017-10-05 09:35:42 PM  

Mugato: Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!


If she had put the money in the bank, it would have been nice.
She gave it apparently to Mickey Rourke's plastic surgeon.
 
2017-10-05 09:40:49 PM  

vudukungfu: Mugato: Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!

If she had put the money in the bank, it would have been nice.
She gave it apparently to Mickey Rourke's plastic surgeon.


This is my shocked face. It looks exactly the opposite of Rose McGowan's face.
 
2017-10-05 09:41:48 PM  
Young women? Wow, that's pretty tame compared to the other stuff you hear rumors about in Hollywood.

/pours one out for the Coreys
 
2017-10-05 09:55:59 PM  

vudukungfu: Mugato: Rose McGowan, nice.

I mean, scumbag!

If she had put the money in the bank, it would have been nice.
She gave it apparently to Mickey Rourke's plastic surgeon.


Well she only had her face peeled off in a car accident.
 
2017-10-05 10:11:23 PM  

FormlessOne: Seriously, though, the creepiest part about this whole deal is that it sounds like Weinstein's done this so often that his company has a standard settlement amount & contract, and that even discussing the criminal aspect of what he's done is somehow banned.

No contract should prevent you from blowing the whistle on criminal activity. Unwanted sexual contact is a criminal act. Why is this asshole not in jail?

And, yeah, it's a rhetorical question with an obvious answer - "because he's rich" - but I had to ask it anyway. It's becoming more and more clear that, in America, that justice isn't blind - it's gated, and there's a VIP room.


The allegations are vague enough that I'm not sure if they're criminal.  Creepy, inappropriate, and grounds for civil action in sexual harassment suits to be sure, but unless he was actually forcing himself on women or non-consensually grabbing them as opposed to just badgering and implying tit for tat arrangements it probably stays in the civil realm.

That being said, I'm not sure if non-disclosure agreements can be enforced when there's a documented pattern of workplace sexual harassment.
 
2017-10-05 10:46:34 PM  
Here he is paying off Ellen at an awards show:

img.fark.net

/christ, what an asshole
 
2017-10-05 10:56:18 PM  

Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.


How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.
 
2017-10-05 11:00:01 PM  

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


In 1942!
 
2017-10-05 11:01:48 PM  
It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching. I should leave that to the professional Farkers. I have no stomach for this shiat.
 
2017-10-05 11:02:39 PM  
Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!
 
2017-10-05 11:04:22 PM  
and that awful statement issued through his lawyer about fighting the nra,just no. Fark off Harvey,lots of us liberals will not stick with you so don't bother.
 
2017-10-05 11:07:24 PM  
This has been an "open secret" about him forever.
 
2017-10-05 11:08:45 PM  

MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!


i'm a liberal and i'm disgusted by him and everyone one that knew he was doing this.  don't be so quick to accuse us as giving this asshole a pass.
 
2017-10-05 11:10:07 PM  
Shoulda sent him:

www.kropserkel.com
 
2017-10-05 11:11:19 PM  

JudgeSmails: MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!

i'm a liberal and i'm disgusted by him and everyone one that knew he was doing this.  don't be so quick to accuse us as giving this asshole a pass.


Everyone in this thread has said the same.

MilesTeg is projecting.
 
2017-10-05 11:12:34 PM  

SoupGuru: Young women? Wow, that's pretty tame compared to the other stuff you hear rumors about in Hollywood.

/pours one out for the Coreys


maybe his brother is in charge of handling the male talent.
nothing will happen and we'll only hear about these cases after decades of abuse...
 
2017-10-05 11:21:03 PM  

Non Sequitur Man: It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching.


No it's not.
 
2017-10-05 11:26:16 PM  
His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 11:27:42 PM  

This text is now purple: Non Sequitur Man: It's difficult to make light of something that's despicable and heart-wrenching.

No it's not.


I wish I had your intestinal fortitude.

/or not
 
2017-10-05 11:34:46 PM  

MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!


Says the farker in a thread full of "liberal" farkers calling it terrible. You obviously don't read the threads before sharing your verbal blumpkins with us.


Also........ Add me as one more who upon hearing this news, my first reaction was, "Wait... harassing WOMEN? But, I thought he was gay?!?!"
 
2017-10-05 11:38:47 PM  
Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 11:40:54 PM  

sirrerun: Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

[img.fark.net image 376x482]


this guy could make sexual harassment funny.
 
2017-10-05 11:49:43 PM  

sirrerun: Hmm.
I always thought he swung the other way.

[img.fark.net image 376x482]


You're not the only one. I always assumed Weinstein was gay until I realized he wasn't Fierstein. Which happened literally 30 seconds before I saw your post.
 
2017-10-06 12:05:32 AM  
img.fark.net

Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.
 
2017-10-06 12:06:02 AM  
And all this time I thought the worst thing he ever did was buy the best picture Oscar for Shakespeare in Love
 
2017-10-06 12:36:33 AM  
Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.
 
2017-10-06 12:42:13 AM  
I barely was aware this guy existed but still knew he was a legendary asshole. When that happens, you know he's bad.
 
2017-10-06 01:11:11 AM  

BizarreMan: So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.


Um, & the 25 years before that he was a Buffalo, NY Rock Concert Promoter. You know those guys were Salt Of The Earth types;http://www.buffalospree.com/Buffalo-Spree/April-2015/Harvey-We​instein-​and-the-birth-of-Miramax-Films/
 
2017-10-06 01:16:23 AM  

WordsnCollision: [img.fark.net image 450x338]

Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.


Eyewitnesses everywhere
 
2017-10-06 02:12:41 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

[img.fark.net image 742x778]


You'd think he would've realized it was wrong after the first time he was sued and had to set up a settlement process for each subsequent lawsuit.
 
2017-10-06 02:14:09 AM  

Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.


img.fark.net

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand
 
2017-10-06 02:15:20 AM  
Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too
 
2017-10-06 02:16:39 AM  

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


That doesn't answer the question.
 
2017-10-06 02:21:54 AM  

puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.


No doubt that was the choice for those who crossed paths with this guy. Play ball or go home.

For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.
 
2017-10-06 02:33:39 AM  
I imagine it's a form you fill out while waiting in the lobby. You go in, get sexually harassed, and a check arrives in 4-6 weeks along with a gift basket.
 
2017-10-06 02:34:14 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.


No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.
 
2017-10-06 02:37:40 AM  

BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.


Same way liberals serve in the military.
 
2017-10-06 02:38:35 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

[img.fark.net image 742x778]


I love that logic.  "I'll go after the NRA, that will curry favor with my Hollywood peers and they'll forget about the decades of sexual harassment."

I mean maybe it will work.  Look at Roman Polanski, he drugged and sodomized a 13-year old and people defend him all the time, right here on Fark.  All because he's such a "gifted artist" and of course, the Holocaust, so he was traumatized or something therefore isn't a child-rapist.
 
2017-10-06 02:43:46 AM  

puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.


Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...
 
2017-10-06 02:46:14 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.

Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...


Another brave moment from the guy who gave us "we saw your boobs".
 
2017-10-06 02:50:36 AM  

gunther_bumpass: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: puffy999: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: For those willing, I'll bet there was a pretty impressive return on blowing an old Weinstein.

No wonder that episode of Family Guy was not aired originally.

Just did the Wiki. Did not know that...

Another brave moment from the guy who gave us "we saw your boobs".


Indeed.
 
2017-10-06 02:57:48 AM  
Liberals post to condemn the guy.  Conservatives post to condemn liberals.  Neat.
 
2017-10-06 03:41:06 AM  

lindalouwho: This has been an "open secret" about him forever.


Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.
 
2017-10-06 03:55:58 AM  
So when does he run for President?
 
2017-10-06 04:40:57 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.


Fat ugly men don't need to "try" if they have money. That's what makes this ridiculous. Forget the idea that, sadly, people are so pathetic that they will fall for someone for power regardless of their attraction, but this guy could spend his life on a pillow of hookers and not go broke.
 
2017-10-06 04:56:33 AM  

thornhill: His latest excuse: I grew up in the '60s when harassing women was cool; no one gave me the memo in the '90s that it was no longer ok.

img.fark.net

It's kind of funny when you read that in his voice.

sirrerun: img.fark.net
 
2017-10-06 05:17:13 AM  

peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.


Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?
 
2017-10-06 07:00:47 AM  
Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.
 
2017-10-06 07:29:27 AM  

js34603: Damn Hollywood elite Trump supporters grabbing pussies and sexually harassing women for decades. What a jerk.


The funny part is when trump made the grabbing pussy comment he was a registered Democrat
 
2017-10-06 07:37:09 AM  

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.


So, are you a Veteran or Active Duty with two years to go? Or is this the remainder of your 8 year IRR contract?  Out of curiosity, what branch/MOS?

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


/I'm not him, but just in case you're wondering, 4.
 
2017-10-06 07:47:34 AM  
Why not just hire hookers?  Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.
 
2017-10-06 08:37:05 AM  

puffy999: if_i_really_have_to: Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.

Fat ugly men don't need to "try" if they have money. That's what makes this ridiculous. Forget the idea that, sadly, people are so pathetic that they will fall for someone for power regardless of their attraction, but this guy could spend his life on a pillow of hookers and not go broke.


Especially when they have the power to destroy careers and livelihoods.
 
2017-10-06 08:45:32 AM  

AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too


if you've seen a Tarantino movie. . .
 
2017-10-06 08:56:36 AM  

SoupGuru: Young women? Wow, that's pretty tame compared to the other stuff you hear rumors about in HollywoodWashington.

/pours one out for the Coreys

 
2017-10-06 08:57:56 AM  

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


Better to know a rapist than be one and lots of people, people I trust, believe me, say Trump is one.
 
2017-10-06 09:00:09 AM  

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


Don't pay him any attention.  He likes to troll the entertainment tab.  I'm guessing he must be butthurt in the real world to spend so much time annoying other Farkers with his wharrgarbl.
 
2017-10-06 09:06:07 AM  

Huggermugger: Why not just hire hookers? Well, he probably did that too.  Disgusting.

People are so afraid of 'making waves' in Hollywood that even now, 50 years later, actresses are afraid to speak up about their experiences with Sam Spiegel.  Who probably invented the concept of 'yachting' as 'riding your yacht on a perpetual journey around the Mediterranean while it's fully stocked with Parisian whores and young starlets'.  Well, Darryl F. Zanuck did that too, but apparently Spiegel was exceptionally depraved, as he preferred the age range of 12-14.


I was wondering the say thing, but I bet he gets off on sexually harassing a rising star.  What a loser.
 
2017-10-06 09:26:55 AM  

AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too


how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.
 
2017-10-06 09:31:05 AM  

Warrior Kermit: AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too

how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.


If only there were a huge story about that a couple of years ago. If only.
 
2017-10-06 09:41:22 AM  

Moopy Mac: huge story


and just how big of a story is this I can't tell over the outrage that went with it..
 
2017-10-06 09:46:33 AM  

BizarreMan: So he claims that he learned all his business tricks in the 60's and 70's when the rules were different.  Has he been living under a rock since then though?  Because sexual harassment training has been around for at least the last 20 years.


Where can I get this training on how to sexually harass young women?
 
2017-10-06 09:54:40 AM  

puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.


Which is why *you* aren't a leading lady.

It's sick, but the girls who would do it probably far out-numbered those who wouldn't.

If a middle-aged woman (read: cougar) asked me to service her in exchange for a leading role in a movie...I'd probably do it.

/even if she was ugly and fat
//still rape
///still not acceptable, he should be in jail
 
2017-10-06 10:07:19 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-10-06 10:07:37 AM  

ColonelCathcart: puffy999: Can I just say, if some 60 year old oaf tried that on me, I'd probably be finding a new career.

After knocking them unconscious, of course.

Which is why *you* aren't a leading lady.

It's sick, but the girls who would do it probably far out-numbered those who wouldn't.

If a middle-aged woman (read: cougar) asked me to service her in exchange for a leading role in a movie...I'd probably do it.

/even if she was ugly and fat
//still rape
///still not acceptable, he should be in jail


if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option
 
2017-10-06 10:11:16 AM  
This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.
 
2017-10-06 10:45:19 AM  

Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.


If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.
 
2017-10-06 10:45:46 AM  
Seems the only way for a noob female to get that "big break" is to submit to the casting couch, or do a gratuitous nude scene in the movie.

Sandra Bullock in "Fire On The Amazon" (which is a really bad movie) and Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood" come to mind for the latter.

I guess the another way is simply to do all the nude stuff on social media first, wear next to nothing for all the big Hollywood parties, or "someone" drops your sex tape off at TMZ.  Then wait around to see if anyone takes the bait.
 
2017-10-06 10:50:07 AM  

fly_gal: Isn't this where the term couch-audition comes from?  I thought this was pretty standard in the film industry.


It's sad how complacent people are about this. Common does not equal OK.

I mean, domestic violence is fairly common. Doesn't mean it's not illegal or wrong. Or that the victims are to blame, or are responsible for mitigating violent/dangerous/gross situations.

I mean, really. Step it up, humanity.
 
2017-10-06 10:54:02 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.

If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.


Sorry, I meant people attacking liberals think it feels good to them, not me. I'm actually a liberal 😉
 
2017-10-06 10:54:41 AM  

Cynicism101: Step it up, humanity.


you ask a lot from shaved apes
 
2017-10-06 10:57:07 AM  
Another liberal vet here, and I also despise everything about this man- except his money.  I'm perfectly OK with his money and would welcome it into my life with open arms.
 
2017-10-06 10:58:19 AM  

Warrior Kermit: if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option


The tricky thing here is the power imbalance. For some reason a lot of people find this hard to understand, but if you're in an industry where your success depends almost entirely on word-of-mouth reputation and not pissing powerful people off and you can very easily be replaced by the next it girl, you feel a LOT of pressure to give these assholes what they want. And their behaviour is normalized so it's easy to think it's you that have the problem.

Acting is a shiatty, shiatty job, especially for women. I hope the growth of indy projects and maybe (?) the death of the big studios lets women shine (in front and behind the camera), holds people in power accountable, and spreads the power around more evenly. Call me an optimist.
 
2017-10-06 11:02:16 AM  

vudukungfu: you ask a lot from shaved apes


Some of us can't even be bothered to shave!

We're intelligent to understand our own worst impulses (see: all the research on cognitive bias) and intelligent to engineer systems where checks and balances occur. So it's possible. Shining light on dark corners is a good start.
 
2017-10-06 11:03:23 AM  

indy_kid: Seems the only way for a noob female to get that "big break" is to submit to the casting couch, or do a gratuitous nude scene in the movie.

Sandra Bullock in "Fire On The Amazon" (which is a really bad movie) and Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood" come to mind for the latter.

I guess the another way is simply to do all the nude stuff on social media first, wear next to nothing for all the big Hollywood parties, or "someone" drops your sex tape off at TMZ.  Then wait around to see if anyone takes the bait.


Jennifer Lawrence seems to be doing sexier (not sure if nude) scenes as of late, the trailer for her new film red sparrow is quite sexy on her part. yes i know that is the plot of the movie but it strikes me that hollywood producers have convinced these young actresses that the way to show off "female power" is to again use your body as a weapon.
 
2017-10-06 11:08:09 AM  

WordsnCollision: [img.fark.net image 450x338]

Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.


Susan Banks shakes her head and farts in your general direction.
 
2017-10-06 11:10:10 AM  
What a shiatbag.  TWC board of directors is himself, his brother, and David O. Russell.  A board that incapable of dealing with a dirtbag CEO (ie. a board that is so dominated by the CEO and his family) is bullshiat.
 
2017-10-06 11:11:29 AM  

Warrior Kermit: indy_kid: Seems the only way for a noob female to get that "big break" is to submit to the casting couch, or do a gratuitous nude scene in the movie.

Sandra Bullock in "Fire On The Amazon" (which is a really bad movie) and Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood" come to mind for the latter.

I guess the another way is simply to do all the nude stuff on social media first, wear next to nothing for all the big Hollywood parties, or "someone" drops your sex tape off at TMZ.  Then wait around to see if anyone takes the bait.

Jennifer Lawrence seems to be doing sexier (not sure if nude) scenes as of late, the trailer for her new film red sparrow is quite sexy on her part. yes i know that is the plot of the movie but it strikes me that hollywood producers have convinced these young actresses that the way to show off "female power" is to again use your body as a weapon.


She's been dating a filmmaker for a while now, he did the new one she's in, mother. Darren Aronofsky.
 
2017-10-06 11:21:35 AM  

Cynicism101: Warrior Kermit: if you are willing to sacrafice your morals for a job or to get head, is it really rape. not defending the actions but it seems that (excluding underage actors) one knows what they are doing when confronted with this option

The tricky thing here is the power imbalance. For some reason a lot of people find this hard to understand, but if you're in an industry where your success depends almost entirely on word-of-mouth reputation and not pissing powerful people off and you can very easily be replaced by the next it girl, you feel a LOT of pressure to give these assholes what they want. And their behaviour is normalized so it's easy to think it's you that have the problem.

Acting is a shiatty, shiatty job, especially for women. I hope the growth of indy projects and maybe (?) the death of the big studios lets women shine (in front and behind the camera), holds people in power accountable, and spreads the power around more evenly. Call me an optimist.


I can understand more the shock/outrage back in the 40's-60's but the past 40-50 this has been a very known hazard of trying to be an actor in hollywood. I'm not saying it is right, okay or should be an accepted practice. but much like pro sports, you know what you have to face before you start (again child actors are the exception). if you go to a screen test and the dirty old man says you can have the part if you go down on me and you accept that offer, you made the choice. don't come out 20 years later after you have made you money and complain about it. 

if you started smoking in the late 80's early 90's and you get lung cancer, don't blame the cigarette industry, you were well aware the hazards of smoking.

now that horrible opinion of mine being said, these horrible men/women in power who prey on men/women who simply want to get a job as an actor should be strung up and stripped of all money/power and ridiculed at the highest level. That pretty much goes for all of those who use their power/money to control anyone

As for once women get in power. 

Do you really believe that woman in power are going to be any better, greed is greed regardless of gender.  Hillary looks the other way at Bill's antics over the years as it would derail her career path (not being political just an easy example) if she was truly horrified by his behavior she would have stopped it or left him but it wasn't to her benefit.
 
2017-10-06 11:21:47 AM  

Warrior Kermit: Jennifer Lawrence seems to be doing sexier (not sure if nude) scenes as of late, the trailer for her new film red sparrow is quite sexy on her part. yes i know that is the plot of the movie but it strikes me that hollywood producers have convinced these young actresses that the way to show off "female power" is to again use your body as a weapon.


What's Her Born On Date, late 1980s? There's a finite time period where the'll still ask.
 
2017-10-06 11:24:46 AM  

skyotter: Liberals post to condemn the guy.  Conservatives post to condemn liberals.  Neat.


Weinstein is a douche and what he did should have been criminal.

As an aside, the weird homophobic stuff thrown in upthread was... weird.

There! This conservative condemned both.
 
2017-10-06 11:26:13 AM  

LL316: peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand

Better to know a rapist than be one and lots of people, people I trust, believe me, say Trump is one.


Trump called himself a rapists. That's no revelation.
 
2017-10-06 11:27:01 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.

If attacking liberals "feels good" to you then you've got bigger problems.  People don't attack conservatives because it "feels good".  People attack conservatives because it is necessary.  I really wish it wasn't.  But it is.


This is factually incorrect.
 
2017-10-06 11:46:18 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: WordsnCollision: [img.fark.net image 450x338]

Rick Azar and Tom Jolls are gonna be pissed.

Susan Banks shakes her head and farts in your general direction.

blog.buffalostories.com


And it's a juicy one she ate five alarm chili
 
2017-10-06 11:51:10 AM  

Alassra: This is awful. Rose McGowan has talked about this (without using his name) several times and why that (along with a few other things) has caused her to shift to being behind the camera.

I don't care who you vote for at the ballot box - manipulating someone because you have power and they don't is WRONG and this is AWFUL, CREEPY, and DISTURBING.

Attacking liberals, while it feels good, is shooting fish in a barrel. Focus on the issue.


Has she now been fully groomed and ready to start doing her own casting cast couch auditions with hungry young actresses... I'm sorry what was the issue, I'll be in my bunk.

\And it may be wrong to most people but some are into S&M.
\\Not me though
\\\Read "Gerald's Game" right around puberty
 
2017-10-06 12:18:53 PM  

MilesTeg: Fark:

THIS IS AN OUTR <checks political affiliation>  err OK!


Literally no one in this thread is saying that.

1/10: trolling must have some basis in reality
 
2017-10-06 12:25:42 PM  

Kirkenhegelstein: peterthx: BafflerMeal: That doesn't answer the question.

Same way liberals serve in the military.

Fark off. Liberal.  Veteran.  Still have two years to go on contract.

And Weinstein's a human boil that needs lancing.

/How many times have you been deployed, tough guy?


Before you get all triggered I was speaking about how businessmen/producers can be liberal the same way servicemen can be liberal. Read the question that was asked. "How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits."

/conservative, veteran, contract ended about 25 years ago
 
2017-10-06 12:29:53 PM  

MajorTubeSteak: Don't pay him any attention. He likes to troll the entertainment tab. I'm guessing he must be butthurt in the real world to spend so much time annoying other Farkers with his wharrgarbl.


Another leftie with reading comprehension issues.
 
2017-10-06 12:39:58 PM  
Hasn't this been known in Hollywood for like, forever?
 
2017-10-06 12:42:01 PM  

peterthx: Mugato: Callous: As liberal as Hollywood supposedly is I would have thought that the casting couch was a relic of the past.  Evidently to some women's issues are great for selling movie tickets but not to be actually practiced.

How is Hollywood liberal? Especially the producers and studio suits.

[img.fark.net image 600x338]

My dear sweet innocent child...

/I live out here in LALALAND
//Obama was out here seemed like every other weekend hat in hand


I live in LA six months out of the year. Hollywood, the big shots are predominantly Jewish, of course they're going to identify as Democrats. That doesn't make them liberal.
 
2017-10-06 01:14:45 PM  
Mugato:
I live in LA six months out of the year. Hollywood, the big shots are predominantly Jewish, of course they're going to identify as Democrats. That doesn't make them liberal.

The other thing that non-Californians have trouble comprehending is that a lot of what the rest of the country considers "liberal issues" are non-controversial positions out here.  In SoCal, it is 100% normal to find a very conservative, rich, white professional (the kind of person who would donate deep 5-figures to a GOP super-PAC without blinking) who views anthropogenic climate science as a settled issue and gay marriage as a given and silly to spend time on.  Some are pro-legalization, some are pro-immigrant.  (Similarly, outside of the dense urban populations, I know many "liberals" with some very non-Democratic-party views on 2nd amendment, immigration, etc.)

It isn't so much that our "overton window" has slid left or anything like that, its just that the California middle area tends to be more "mushy".  Of my personal acquaintances like those above, their views on other issues look a lot more mainstream GOP/conservative (or even into "hard-right" territory), so there's definitely still a "left" and "right", but California is a very different place.
 
2017-10-06 01:31:38 PM  

Warrior Kermit: Moopy Mac: huge story

and just how big of a story is this I can't tell over the outrage that went with it..


There was like four links on Fark alone on that story. It was all over the internet. Just because you are ignorant of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
2017-10-06 01:36:23 PM  
Bill Cosby: *rage*
Weinstein: *meh, who cares*

Dems/Libs: 'It's okay when we do it'
 
2017-10-06 01:48:26 PM  

BeotchPudding: Bill Cosby: *rage*
Weinstein: *meh, who cares*

Dems/Libs: 'It's okay when we do it'


Literally the only people in this thread saying that are the people projecting that view onto libs.  And you're not even the first person in this thread to try it.  You're like 5th most original troll.  Congrats!
 
2017-10-06 02:18:12 PM  

lindalouwho: This has been an "open secret" about him forever.


Gross. His grossness shows right on his fat face.
 
2017-10-06 02:22:18 PM  

djkutch: Flatulent_Flea: See? SEE?
 bsabsvr

As a lib, this is the sort of behavior that is repulsive, and the perpetrator should be shunned.

As a con, is this guy available to take over for Bill Clinton Trump?


Fixed that for you.
 
2017-10-06 02:26:28 PM  
conservatives deflecting an issue because it doesn't affect white males?

must be a day ending in "Y."
 
2017-10-06 02:44:26 PM  

Herbie555: Mugato:
I live in LA six months out of the year. Hollywood, the big shots are predominantly Jewish, of course they're going to identify as Democrats. That doesn't make them liberal.

The other thing that non-Californians have trouble comprehending is that a lot of what the rest of the country considers "liberal issues" are non-controversial positions out here.  In SoCal, it is 100% normal to find a very conservative, rich, white professional (the kind of person who would donate deep 5-figures to a GOP super-PAC without blinking) who views anthropogenic climate science as a settled issue and gay marriage as a given and silly to spend time on.  Some are pro-legalization, some are pro-immigrant.  (Similarly, outside of the dense urban populations, I know many "liberals" with some very non-Democratic-party views on 2nd amendment, immigration, etc.)

It isn't so much that our "overton window" has slid left or anything like that, its just that the California middle area tends to be more "mushy".  Of my personal acquaintances like those above, their views on other issues look a lot more mainstream GOP/conservative (or even into "hard-right" territory), so there's definitely still a "left" and "right", but California is a very different place.


Yeah I see the opposite here in Texas.  There are a lot of "liberals" here that are pro-gun. (You can look at our last Democratic governor, Ann Richards as an example.  They made a big deal about her hunting every dove season).  There also plenty of Democrats that openly support the death penalty and even quite a few that are open to abortion restrictions, even while being against outlawing it outright.

(But to be fair there are  number of Texas libertarians (small 'l') who are pro-cannabis legalization, anti-death penalty, and pro-choice)
 
2017-10-06 03:05:22 PM  

Warrior Kermit: indy_kid: Seems the only way for a noob female to get that "big break" is to submit to the casting couch, or do a gratuitous nude scene in the movie.

Sandra Bullock in "Fire On The Amazon" (which is a really bad movie) and Julie Warner in "Doc Hollywood" come to mind for the latter.

I guess the another way is simply to do all the nude stuff on social media first, wear next to nothing for all the big Hollywood parties, or "someone" drops your sex tape off at TMZ.  Then wait around to see if anyone takes the bait.

Jennifer Lawrence seems to be doing sexier (not sure if nude) scenes as of late, the trailer for her new film red sparrow is quite sexy on her part. yes i know that is the plot of the movie but it strikes me that hollywood producers have convinced these young actresses that the way to show off "female power" is to again use your body as a weapon.


Actually little jen ran her mouth a bit too much and that might be all she can get.
 
2017-10-06 06:24:49 PM  
Huh ? I thought he would have went for dudes .
 
2017-10-06 06:35:51 PM  

Warrior Kermit: AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too

how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.


Julia Phillips brags about doing this repeatedly in her tell-all. She claimed that young actors were enamored of her looks and not that she was clearly using her power to keep the casting couch warm.
 
2017-10-06 07:16:45 PM  
I am by no means a Hollywood  bigwig, nor do I rub noses with many but they are not liberals in any real sense of the word. I know CEOs who are bigger scumbags than studio suits and that's saying a lot.
 
2017-10-06 09:16:07 PM  
Well, he sits up there on his leatherette
Looks through pictures of the ones that he hasn't had yet
When he thinks he wants a closer look
He gets out his little black telephone book
He's calling, calling, calling
He's calling
"Come sit down here beside me, honey
Let's have a little heart to heart
Now look at me and tell me, darling
How badly do you want this part?
Are you willing to sacrifice?
And are you willing to be real nice?
All your talent and my good taste
I'd hate to see it go to waste
"We gon' get you an apartment, honey
We gon' get you a car
Yeah, we're going to take care of you, darling
We gon' make you a movie star
For years I've seen 'em come and go
He says, "I've had 'em all, 'ya know
I handled everything in my own way
I made 'em what they are today
After 'while nothing was pretty
After 'while everything got lost
Still, his Jacuzzi runneth over
Still he just couldn't get off
He's just another power junky
Just another silk scarf monkey
You'd know it if you saw his stuff
The man just isn't big enough

/Props to Henley & Frey
 
2017-10-06 09:32:39 PM  

luidprand: Warrior Kermit: AquaTatanka: Old rich guy thinks he's entitled to the attention of young pretty women?    Well, there's a story that only stretches back for all of recorded history.

/put me with the crowd that didnt know the difference between Harvey Fierstein and Weinstein too

how many old rich women have done the same to young boys/men in hollywood or for that matter how many young boys/men have suffered the same fate as this young women. it isn't talked about under the sexism that boys/men enjoy being sexually abused.

Julia Phillips brags about doing this repeatedly in her tell-all. She claimed that young actors were enamored of her looks and not that she was clearly using her power to keep the casting couch warm.


sure, right she wasn't using them.
 
2017-10-07 01:39:35 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: lindalouwho: This has been an "open secret" about him forever.

Pretty sure it's an open secret about almost every producer.  Power and money make abuse.  Especially for fat ugly men who couldn't get any before the power and money.


Imagine the hit to your old-school self-esteem though. One of the richest, most powerful guys in Hollywood and people are still... yeah, no. Yeah. No. Yeah FARK NO, FARK OFF.  Hollywood is a disease.
 
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