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(SFGate)   Netflix and Chill may soon be an expensive date   ( sfgate.com) divider line
    More: Stupid, Netflix, Stock, Subscription business model, Streaming media, popular U.S. video, Internet television, video streaming plan, subscriber growth  
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3994 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 05 Oct 2017 at 2:20 PM (2 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2017-10-05 12:48:20 PM  
23 votes:
10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.
2017-10-05 01:28:35 PM  
21 votes:
If you can't afford one or two dollars a month, you're a pretty shiat-tier date anyhow
2017-10-05 01:00:58 PM  
20 votes:
I'm fine with this.  If it means more content, go for it.  Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are both batting better than the major networks and most of the cable channels when it comes to the quality of their content these days.
2017-10-05 03:42:55 PM  
12 votes:

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: BigSquibowski: Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring. entertaining, but no one will think I'm cool if I say that I like something popular

FTFY


If I wanted to be cool I would not be posting on FARK.
kab
2017-10-05 03:13:21 PM  
12 votes:
Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.
2017-10-05 03:10:43 PM  
12 votes:
I'd rather chip in a dollar than watch a commercial.
2017-10-05 02:06:09 PM  
12 votes:
Still an excellent value/cost ratio.  If this helps lure more *good* content away from the cable monopolies that's even better.
2017-10-05 02:34:52 PM  
11 votes:
They are going to need all that money to pay off Comcast when net neutrality gets quashed.
2017-10-05 03:01:26 PM  
8 votes:
Spend the money on a better interface, quit trying to categorize the same thing in 10 different categories.
2017-10-05 02:54:23 PM  
8 votes:
I would be okay with this if they ever had even one goddamn movie I searched for.
2017-10-05 02:28:45 PM  
7 votes:
Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring.
2017-10-05 03:53:12 PM  
5 votes:

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.
2017-10-05 03:37:07 PM  
5 votes:
If it means more Stranger Things, Defenders, Sense8, then shut up and take my money.
2017-10-05 02:36:02 PM  
5 votes:
Omgz a whole dollar. If that's going to break your bank, why are you subscribing anyway?
2017-10-05 02:38:00 PM  
4 votes:
I'm not in their target demographic, so the selection of things I'm interested in watching is declining. I like a lot of the comedy specials, and a couple of their series, but the movie selection is getting pretty weak

/and the menus when I access it from the tv...
//Seriously?
2017-10-05 07:15:50 PM  
3 votes:

lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.


As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"
2017-10-05 05:39:09 PM  
3 votes:
Netflix is really the only streaming service I have.  I don't count Amazon (that is just a free adjunct to covering my shipping from them).  I'm fortunate in that the only other thing I pay for is some of the premium channels (I get my cable/satellite for free from my employer, aside from HBO/Cinemax/Starz/Showtime/etc) 

I've thought about Hulu, but that still leaves a bad taste in my mouth from previous experience.
2017-10-05 03:09:07 PM  
3 votes:
$10 is an expensive date? Lucky gal/dude....
2017-10-05 02:39:35 PM  
3 votes:
I wouldn't mind paying more for Perrier if it wasn't delivered to my house through a rusty pipe.

On the bright side, there's a startup company expanding in my area offering wireless broadband with supposedly no data caps. Once they expand to cover where I live, and convince me they aren't completely sketchy, I might be able to enjoy real internet rather than my crappy Frontier DSL.
2017-10-05 02:34:47 PM  
3 votes:
I'm totally fine with this.  It's still underpriced, if you ask me (hopefully they don't).
2017-10-05 09:46:38 PM  
2 votes:

lindalouwho: Fark_Guy_Rob: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"

So what should their business model be?

I should get everything I want, for whatever price I want, or I should get to take it for free!

Best of all, I don't have to feel guilty because it's *their* fault!

Huh.
I didn't read it that way at all.


Well, I'm being snarky but it's an argument that's been passed around a lot.  I'm not even saying it's wrong.  Still, the core idea being that is a business doesn't conform to some arbitrary rules, rather than choosing not to purchase their products, we will take it for free.

In high school my friends pirated music (they still do) because 'THE RIAA SUCKS!' and they didn't feel that the business model was what they wanted.  Exactly zero of them created or sold their own music.

By college my friends were into pirating games (they still do, except for certain online games where they can't easily pirate) because they disagree with how games are sold.  Either the prices aren't fair, or they dislike some other game where the creator was just trying to 'make money' (EA not having offline single player mode in some game or something) or because they think they should be able to play the full version of the game, entirely, before deciding if they think they should purchase it, after the fact.

Around the same time, they started downloading TV shows and movies.  For similar reasons.  'Cable sucks!  It's too expensive!  I don't want bundles of channels!'  I'll just download it!

In all of the cases, they justified their actions by saying that it was the business's fault for not adhering to a particular business model that they feel is better.  The prices are too high - so I'll pirate it.  I can't watch it how I want - so I'll pirate it.
2017-10-05 06:12:19 PM  
2 votes:
AFAIK Netflix autoplay can be turned off on your account settings on the website. That carried over to my Apple TV. Same goes for Hulu. $1 more is no big whoop.

Those crying about content are off thier nut. My list stays around 30 some odd items. Between the original content and (for now) having new Disney releases, there is plenty to watch. It also seems to be the place to be for new stand-up comedy specials these days.

If it ever does get too expensive for me, I'll just start alternating between it and Hulu. If I had to choose only one, Hulu would bite it first as it's a crash happy pos app on my old Apple TV. Hulu is very much just "I don't want to wait a year" for certain shows.
2017-10-05 04:26:51 PM  
2 votes:
Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.
2017-10-05 02:51:36 PM  
2 votes:
I don't mind.

anyone check out Big Mouth? fun and funny.
2017-10-05 11:12:03 PM  
1 vote:
RyansPrivates:
Hate that new "feature" is more like a bug to me.  Annoyns the crap out of me when  I want to browse.  It's gotten to the point that I mute while browsing and then unmute when i choose something.

Yeah, I do the same thing.
2017-10-05 09:22:44 PM  
1 vote:

Fark_Guy_Rob: TuteTibiImperes: I'm fine with this.  If it means more content, go for it.  Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are both batting better than the major networks and most of the cable channels when it comes to the quality of their content these days.

It doesn't.

They're having trouble getting content and/or getting it for the prices they are used to.  They are raising the price, but they'll continue to lose content.  At least, big name, traditional content, like Disney movies or whatever.

I like Netflix a lot, and they've shown they can create content too....but it is what it is.


Yeah, we're going to see some balkanization in the streaming world, but I think it will eventually consolidate again.  CBS is making their big play with All Access, but they just don't have enough content to demand a monthly premium for them alone IMO.  Disney is going to try as well, and they may have better luck, but as all of the content starts to spread out to different walled gardens with their own monthly fees people are going to start asking how many streaming services they're willing to pay for.

Plus, there's the whole annoyance factor of having to remember which service which show is on.  Once you get beyond two or three services, it's a big PITA.  It's also nice to have a lot of content in one place so that the recommendations systems can work well - the more content a service has, the better it can suggest other things you might want to watch based on what you've previously watched.

Netflix has a great catalog of original content as well as deals with enough other content providers to weather the storm, and Amazon is investing heavily in original content as well, plus as mentioned above, a lot of people (myself included) subscribe to Prime just for the free shipping, there are so many fringe benefits to Prime, the Video included, that Amazon won't have problems keeping their subscriber base up.

The other players may break out for a bit, but after failing to draw much of a customer base, along with having to foot the bill for developing their own platforms, I think they'll eventually decide it's in their financial interests to just license the stuff to Netflix, Amazon, or Hulu, let them take care of the logistics, and just collect a check.
2017-10-05 08:40:00 PM  
1 vote:
Meanwhile at regional cable company: "that'll be $140/mo for those four channels you like laced with commercials every 7 minutes." Die already.
2017-10-05 06:21:57 PM  
1 vote:

WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.


The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.
2017-10-05 04:42:08 PM  
1 vote:

BroVinny: I dropped Netflix.  And Hulu.  I have three kids; if I can check out scripts from the library, I figure they can act them out for me.


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2017-10-05 04:35:59 PM  
1 vote:
I dropped Netflix.  And Hulu.  I have three kids; if I can check out scripts from the library, I figure they can act them out for me.
2017-10-05 04:32:42 PM  
1 vote:
I'm annoyed about the increase because it just increased less than a year ago.

Surprised when TFA said it's the first increase in 2 years. Later in the same paragraph I got the explanation that because I was a new subscriber, my increase was delayed.
2017-10-05 04:32:26 PM  
1 vote:
People who complain about the price of Netflix are as bad as people who complain about the price of stamps.
2017-10-05 04:11:29 PM  
1 vote:
$11 / 30 days = 36 cents

If 36 cents is your idea of an "expensive date"... I guess you can just ask her if she wants to go dumpster diving.
2017-10-05 03:26:53 PM  
1 vote:

Imaginativescreenname: Hulu has great content (several points docked for not having Criterion Collection titles anymore which was a selling point when i started using Plus), but freezes every ten seconds if i'm doing almost anything requiring the wifi on my computer. Never seen such a greedy bandwith hog.Perhaps this is because i refuse to shell out for the commercial-free version (because when i started using their service hulu plus WAS the commercial-free option)

Netflix has always been bogus in terms of adding and taking things away (usually the same movies, and not nearly tapping into the possibilities of what they could be putting up) and this has only gotten far worse, perhaps with the intention of slowly phasing everything out excepting the original content. Ramping up the cost repeatedly is annoying if they're not going to expand content beyond what they are themselves making and cycling through the same titles ad infinitum with the occasional new item.

Had amazon for about a year and it was ok. i remember watching a lot of stuff i'd already seen before because what was available that i hadn't seen held no interest. This was 2-4 years ago so i'm sure they've added much since then.


Not sure what Hulu you've been using, but the main reason I stopped giving them my money is that they would drop seasons or entire shows without any advanced notice.  Netflix at least tells you when something is going away in a month or two...Hulu just nukes it.
2017-10-05 03:21:59 PM  
1 vote:

BigSquibowski: Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring. entertaining, but no one will think I'm cool if I say that I like something popular


FTFY
2017-10-05 03:21:23 PM  
1 vote:

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


Oh, yeah... that sh*t needs to GO
 
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