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2017-10-05 12:48:20 PM  
10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.
 
2017-10-05 01:00:58 PM  
I'm fine with this.  If it means more content, go for it.  Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are both batting better than the major networks and most of the cable channels when it comes to the quality of their content these days.
 
2017-10-05 01:04:26 PM  
Didn't they just raise their prices?  Or was that just in Canada?  I got a notification on my screen and just clicked through...
 
2017-10-05 01:28:35 PM  
If you can't afford one or two dollars a month, you're a pretty shiat-tier date anyhow
 
2017-10-05 02:06:09 PM  
Still an excellent value/cost ratio.  If this helps lure more *good* content away from the cable monopolies that's even better.
 
2017-10-05 02:22:20 PM  
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2017-10-05 02:25:13 PM  
As long as they keep making the Hot Tub Time Machine series available for streaming.
 
2017-10-05 02:28:40 PM  
Remember last time they did this and made tons of cash and signed up thousands of new users? It's like they never learn.
 
2017-10-05 02:28:45 PM  
Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring.
 
2017-10-05 02:30:54 PM  
Is the extra money worth it? That depends on how much chili I get.
 
2017-10-05 02:34:47 PM  
I'm totally fine with this.  It's still underpriced, if you ask me (hopefully they don't).
 
2017-10-05 02:34:52 PM  
They are going to need all that money to pay off Comcast when net neutrality gets quashed.
 
2017-10-05 02:35:15 PM  
Inflation exists, expect prices to rise.

Costs of programming is almost certainly increasing as well as there is more competition for the rights to programs and more originally programming being made.
 
2017-10-05 02:36:02 PM  
Omgz a whole dollar. If that's going to break your bank, why are you subscribing anyway?
 
2017-10-05 02:38:00 PM  
I'm not in their target demographic, so the selection of things I'm interested in watching is declining. I like a lot of the comedy specials, and a couple of their series, but the movie selection is getting pretty weak

/and the menus when I access it from the tv...
//Seriously?
 
2017-10-05 02:39:35 PM  
I wouldn't mind paying more for Perrier if it wasn't delivered to my house through a rusty pipe.

On the bright side, there's a startup company expanding in my area offering wireless broadband with supposedly no data caps. Once they expand to cover where I live, and convince me they aren't completely sketchy, I might be able to enjoy real internet rather than my crappy Frontier DSL.
 
2017-10-05 02:40:28 PM  
Who thought the place that would mail you dvds would turn into a television and movie studio?
I hope the destruction of net neutrality doesn't destroy them.
 
2017-10-05 02:43:10 PM  
I picked the wrong weekend to binge Bojack Horseman.  I was not prepared for Monday morning.
 
2017-10-05 02:51:36 PM  
I don't mind.

anyone check out Big Mouth? fun and funny.
 
2017-10-05 02:54:23 PM  
I would be okay with this if they ever had even one goddamn movie I searched for.
 
2017-10-05 03:01:26 PM  
Spend the money on a better interface, quit trying to categorize the same thing in 10 different categories.
 
2017-10-05 03:09:07 PM  
$10 is an expensive date? Lucky gal/dude....
 
2017-10-05 03:10:28 PM  
Hulu has great content (several points docked for not having Criterion Collection titles anymore which was a selling point when i started using Plus), but freezes every ten seconds if i'm doing almost anything requiring the wifi on my computer. Never seen such a greedy bandwith hog.Perhaps this is because i refuse to shell out for the commercial-free version (because when i started using their service hulu plus WAS the commercial-free option)

Netflix has always been bogus in terms of adding and taking things away (usually the same movies, and not nearly tapping into the possibilities of what they could be putting up) and this has only gotten far worse, perhaps with the intention of slowly phasing everything out excepting the original content. Ramping up the cost repeatedly is annoying if they're not going to expand content beyond what they are themselves making and cycling through the same titles ad infinitum with the occasional new item.

Had amazon for about a year and it was ok. i remember watching a lot of stuff i'd already seen before because what was available that i hadn't seen held no interest. This was 2-4 years ago so i'm sure they've added much since then.
 
2017-10-05 03:10:43 PM  
I'd rather chip in a dollar than watch a commercial.
 
kab
2017-10-05 03:13:21 PM  
Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.
 
2017-10-05 03:21:23 PM  

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


Oh, yeah... that sh*t needs to GO
 
2017-10-05 03:21:59 PM  

BigSquibowski: Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring. entertaining, but no one will think I'm cool if I say that I like something popular


FTFY
 
2017-10-05 03:26:53 PM  

Imaginativescreenname: Hulu has great content (several points docked for not having Criterion Collection titles anymore which was a selling point when i started using Plus), but freezes every ten seconds if i'm doing almost anything requiring the wifi on my computer. Never seen such a greedy bandwith hog.Perhaps this is because i refuse to shell out for the commercial-free version (because when i started using their service hulu plus WAS the commercial-free option)

Netflix has always been bogus in terms of adding and taking things away (usually the same movies, and not nearly tapping into the possibilities of what they could be putting up) and this has only gotten far worse, perhaps with the intention of slowly phasing everything out excepting the original content. Ramping up the cost repeatedly is annoying if they're not going to expand content beyond what they are themselves making and cycling through the same titles ad infinitum with the occasional new item.

Had amazon for about a year and it was ok. i remember watching a lot of stuff i'd already seen before because what was available that i hadn't seen held no interest. This was 2-4 years ago so i'm sure they've added much since then.


Not sure what Hulu you've been using, but the main reason I stopped giving them my money is that they would drop seasons or entire shows without any advanced notice.  Netflix at least tells you when something is going away in a month or two...Hulu just nukes it.
 
2017-10-05 03:37:07 PM  
If it means more Stranger Things, Defenders, Sense8, then shut up and take my money.
 
2017-10-05 03:42:55 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: BigSquibowski: Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring. entertaining, but no one will think I'm cool if I say that I like something popular

FTFY


If I wanted to be cool I would not be posting on FARK.
 
2017-10-05 03:53:12 PM  

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.
 
2017-10-05 03:57:43 PM  

olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.


What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.
 
2017-10-05 04:00:33 PM  

Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.


Usually Fire stick or PS4 in the living room. Gave up on maintaining a separate media PC once everything became so easily connectable. That, and my wife would rather not mess with a PC just to watch Netflix when it's just her.
 
2017-10-05 04:01:22 PM  
As far as streaming services are concerned, I currently only pay for the ad-free Hulu and Britbox. With those two, podcasts, and the 22 over-the-air channels I get, I have more than I actually have the time to watch.

Dumped Netflix a couple of years ago. I prefer classic TV over their "originals", and they were no longer delivering on that genre. Also, they can bite me with the autoplay and shrinking credits that can't be turned off by default .
 
2017-10-05 04:03:37 PM  

olrasputin: Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.

Usually Fire stick or PS4 in the living room. Gave up on maintaining a separate media PC once everything became so easily connectable. That, and my wife would rather not mess with a PC just to watch Netflix when it's just her.


I guess I'll stick with the web version and my Steam Link then, because autoplay in the background while reading a show description would drive me batty.
 
2017-10-05 04:09:06 PM  

Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.


I use a Roku stick. When I click on a TV show, it immediately starts playing an episode before I get a chance to select the one I want to watch.
 
2017-10-05 04:11:29 PM  
$11 / 30 days = 36 cents

If 36 cents is your idea of an "expensive date"... I guess you can just ask her if she wants to go dumpster diving.
 
2017-10-05 04:15:16 PM  
A $1 increase a month is negligible, of course, but a 10% increase is a big price increase
 
2017-10-05 04:21:14 PM  

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


I love Netflix, but I hate autoplay so much that I rarely stream on my PS3. I only download and watch on my Kindle.

Been watching more Hulu lately on their free trial -- and I will be subscribing when that is over. This price increase doesn't bother me at all, but I will definitely not be shy about cutting the Netflix cord if I can't find 3-4 shows of gripping content a year. Iron Fist and Defenders really whiffed.
 
2017-10-05 04:21:27 PM  

lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.


Same here, better deal than any cable package.
 
2017-10-05 04:26:51 PM  
Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.
 
2017-10-05 04:32:26 PM  
People who complain about the price of Netflix are as bad as people who complain about the price of stamps.
 
2017-10-05 04:32:42 PM  
I'm annoyed about the increase because it just increased less than a year ago.

Surprised when TFA said it's the first increase in 2 years. Later in the same paragraph I got the explanation that because I was a new subscriber, my increase was delayed.
 
2017-10-05 04:33:33 PM  
FTA: over the last 12 months Netflix shares are up 81%

I'll chip in the buck for the content, but it doesn't sound like they're struggling by any means.
 
2017-10-05 04:35:59 PM  
I dropped Netflix.  And Hulu.  I have three kids; if I can check out scripts from the library, I figure they can act them out for me.
 
2017-10-05 04:38:55 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.


Considering they all closed down in 2013, and in many locales they closed down years before that, not sure why that would be shocking.

I mean, I never set foot in a Burger Chef either, and I'm 45.... because they all closed down by the end of the 70s.
 
2017-10-05 04:42:08 PM  

BroVinny: I dropped Netflix.  And Hulu.  I have three kids; if I can check out scripts from the library, I figure they can act them out for me.


Scarface School Play
Youtube uovMpapeCJQ
 
2017-10-05 04:47:47 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.


VHS and veg.
 
2017-10-05 04:49:13 PM  
Looking at the NFLX chart, if you bought 2 shares of the stock about a year ago, you'd be up $200.

Minus short term cap. gain taxes and brokerage fees, you'd have still made enough free money from netflix for a free year of netflix.

It's like they're giving it away.
 
2017-10-05 04:52:56 PM  
I don't mind. They produce some great stuff.

Also, we already watch some of the same programs on different devices simultaneously, so not sure why that's mentioned. I love it because I can continue watching a show on my tablet with blue tooth headphones on the deck while barbecuing or watering plants, while my other two watch in the living room; or I can watch something else entirely anywhere in the house or on the deck while they watch whatever.

Another also: being tied to a day and time to watch a show seems so dark ages to me. Services such as Netflix, Hulu, etc., are well worth the price when you consider the convenience and content.
 
2017-10-05 05:09:47 PM  
Still free for me....

>_>
 
2017-10-05 05:12:00 PM  

Old Smokie: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.

VHS and veg.


More like VHS and vag.

Unless you'd prefer DVD and dick?  Nothing wrong with that.
 
2017-10-05 05:17:47 PM  
Worth it for 4K IMO.  $2 extra per month?  My internet is way more than that.  Nine hours of stranger things is like four movies for my girlfriend and I, and four movies at the theater will cost a lot more than $24.
 
2017-10-05 05:38:55 PM  

dletter: $11 / 30 days = 36 cents

If 36 cents is your idea of an "expensive date"... I guess you can just ask her if she wants to go dumpster diving.


For the price of a date, I can feed, clothe, and educate a child in Africa or I can pay for Netflix with none of those commercials to have to suffer through.
 
2017-10-05 05:39:09 PM  
Netflix is really the only streaming service I have.  I don't count Amazon (that is just a free adjunct to covering my shipping from them).  I'm fortunate in that the only other thing I pay for is some of the premium channels (I get my cable/satellite for free from my employer, aside from HBO/Cinemax/Starz/Showtime/etc) 

I've thought about Hulu, but that still leaves a bad taste in my mouth from previous experience.
 
2017-10-05 06:12:19 PM  
AFAIK Netflix autoplay can be turned off on your account settings on the website. That carried over to my Apple TV. Same goes for Hulu. $1 more is no big whoop.

Those crying about content are off thier nut. My list stays around 30 some odd items. Between the original content and (for now) having new Disney releases, there is plenty to watch. It also seems to be the place to be for new stand-up comedy specials these days.

If it ever does get too expensive for me, I'll just start alternating between it and Hulu. If I had to choose only one, Hulu would bite it first as it's a crash happy pos app on my old Apple TV. Hulu is very much just "I don't want to wait a year" for certain shows.
 
2017-10-05 06:16:46 PM  

lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.


That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.
 
2017-10-05 06:16:56 PM  

rudemix: FTA: over the last 12 months Netflix shares are up 81%

I'll chip in the buck for the content, but it doesn't sound like they're struggling by any means.


Unfortunately stock price doesn't always translate to cash flow. They're in a war for content and investing heavily in original content.
 
2017-10-05 06:17:16 PM  

boozehat: Looking at the NFLX chart, if you bought 2 shares of the stock about a year ago, you'd be up $200.

Minus short term cap. gain taxes and brokerage fees, you'd have still made enough free money from netflix for a free year of netflix.

It's like they're giving it away.


Well, not them. Whoever you bought the stock from would've given you a free year of Netflix. It'd also be long-term cap gain at that point.
 
2017-10-05 06:19:44 PM  

rudemix: FTA: over the last 12 months Netflix shares are up 81%

I'll chip in the buck for the content, but it doesn't sound like they're struggling by any means.


With this announcement it went up 4% just today.
And the news said they have 58M subscribers, so now I really get how $1 will make them competitive.
 
2017-10-05 06:21:57 PM  

WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.


The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.
 
2017-10-05 06:23:12 PM  

rcain: If you can't afford one or two dollars a month, you're a pretty shiat-tier date anyhow


Hey man, I always spring for fries when I take my dates out for dinner.

/small fries, but fries nonetheless
//as long as they order off the value menu
///no dessert, though
 
2017-10-05 06:26:02 PM  

lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.


With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).
 
2017-10-05 06:30:30 PM  

kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.


Sorry but the winner of the worse interface, streaming TV category belongs to PS Vue...and by a mile.

I can deal with the side scrolling guide but the DVR portion is horrible. I switched from Sling to them for college football season because it was cheaper. That was a mistake. Hoping Directv gets their DVR thing sorted out soon cause Vue is a mess.
 
2017-10-05 06:35:48 PM  

Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.


I watch on a Fire TV and I'm guessing they are talking about when you are watching a series and one episodes end, the next pops up in the corner with a little count down clock. If you don't do anything, the next episode will play.

If you want to watch full screen credits, just back out and hit play again. The episode will pick up where it left off and in full screen.

Autoplay only works for 2 episodes in a row. After that it will ask if you are still watching. To me, not a big deal.
 
2017-10-05 07:00:47 PM  

imgod2u: boozehat: Looking at the NFLX chart, if you bought 2 shares of the stock about a year ago, you'd be up $200.

Minus short term cap. gain taxes and brokerage fees, you'd have still made enough free money from netflix for a free year of netflix.

It's like they're giving it away.

Well, not them. Whoever you bought the stock from would've given you a free year of Netflix. It'd also be long-term cap gain at that point.


We don't need to argue about verbiage, but my comment is accurate, and the concept is the same.  Make money from the company you do business with to off-set the cost of doing business with that company.  (And sure, hold the stock for 366 days and look at LT tax vs. ST tax.... either way, free money = free service)
 
2017-10-05 07:04:57 PM  

dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).


The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.
 
2017-10-05 07:07:01 PM  

lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.


Yeah, but there are lots of smaller content producers and international distribution that Netflix has its fingers in.

Them doing their own thing will hurt but I can't see it killing Netflix. Amazon becoming the go to streaming service would be a lot worse long term.
 
2017-10-05 07:15:50 PM  

lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.


As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"
 
2017-10-05 07:15:59 PM  

isthisme: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

Sorry but the winner of the worse interface, streaming TV category belongs to PS Vue...and by a mile.

I can deal with the side scrolling guide but the DVR portion is horrible. I switched from Sling to them for college football season because it was cheaper. That was a mistake. Hoping Directv gets their DVR thing sorted out soon cause Vue is a mess.


I'm really getting into Hulu Live.  It's not perfect by any measure, but its "DVR" integrates really well.  I say "DVR" because the free version isn't so much a DVR as it just integrates all of the various network apps into one interface. Since we don't watch a ton of live television outside of sports, it makes it really easy to integrate all of our cable shows into the stuff we already watch on Hulu.  So if I want to watch, say Better Things or The Last Ship, I can just pull them up right in Hulu instead of having to have separate apps for each network.
 
2017-10-05 08:26:19 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I'm fine with this.  If it means more content, go for it.  Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are both batting better than the major networks and most of the cable channels when it comes to the quality of their content these days.


It doesn't.

They're having trouble getting content and/or getting it for the prices they are used to.  They are raising the price, but they'll continue to lose content.  At least, big name, traditional content, like Disney movies or whatever.

I like Netflix a lot, and they've shown they can create content too....but it is what it is.
 
2017-10-05 08:28:47 PM  

dywed88: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

Yeah, but there are lots of smaller content producers and international distribution that Netflix has its fingers in.

Them doing their own thing will hurt but I can't see it killing Netflix. Amazon becoming the go to streaming service would be a lot worse long term.


Netflix tapping into other small players isn't a problem, probably is helping grow those businesses.
 
2017-10-05 08:30:53 PM  

Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"


That's what I'm afraid of, hope it takes a long time if it happens.
I hope some fall flat on their faces, CBS for example with that stupid Star Trek trick to kick off with.
 
2017-10-05 08:35:16 PM  

Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"


So what should their business model be?
 
2017-10-05 08:38:23 PM  
Wow, it will cost less than 50 cents a day?  If you think that's an expensive date, you've got bigger problems than trying to get laid.
 
2017-10-05 08:40:00 PM  
Meanwhile at regional cable company: "that'll be $140/mo for those four channels you like laced with commercials every 7 minutes." Die already.
 
2017-10-05 09:00:13 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"

So what should their business model be?


I should get everything I want, for whatever price I want, or I should get to take it for free!

Best of all, I don't have to feel guilty because it's *their* fault!
 
2017-10-05 09:12:05 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"

So what should their business model be?

I should get everything I want, for whatever price I want, or I should get to take it for free!

Best of all, I don't have to feel guilty because it's *their* fault!


Huh.
I didn't read it that way at all.
 
2017-10-05 09:22:44 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: TuteTibiImperes: I'm fine with this.  If it means more content, go for it.  Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are both batting better than the major networks and most of the cable channels when it comes to the quality of their content these days.

It doesn't.

They're having trouble getting content and/or getting it for the prices they are used to.  They are raising the price, but they'll continue to lose content.  At least, big name, traditional content, like Disney movies or whatever.

I like Netflix a lot, and they've shown they can create content too....but it is what it is.


Yeah, we're going to see some balkanization in the streaming world, but I think it will eventually consolidate again.  CBS is making their big play with All Access, but they just don't have enough content to demand a monthly premium for them alone IMO.  Disney is going to try as well, and they may have better luck, but as all of the content starts to spread out to different walled gardens with their own monthly fees people are going to start asking how many streaming services they're willing to pay for.

Plus, there's the whole annoyance factor of having to remember which service which show is on.  Once you get beyond two or three services, it's a big PITA.  It's also nice to have a lot of content in one place so that the recommendations systems can work well - the more content a service has, the better it can suggest other things you might want to watch based on what you've previously watched.

Netflix has a great catalog of original content as well as deals with enough other content providers to weather the storm, and Amazon is investing heavily in original content as well, plus as mentioned above, a lot of people (myself included) subscribe to Prime just for the free shipping, there are so many fringe benefits to Prime, the Video included, that Amazon won't have problems keeping their subscriber base up.

The other players may break out for a bit, but after failing to draw much of a customer base, along with having to foot the bill for developing their own platforms, I think they'll eventually decide it's in their financial interests to just license the stuff to Netflix, Amazon, or Hulu, let them take care of the logistics, and just collect a check.
 
2017-10-05 09:38:39 PM  
Remember when Netflix was $9 for a weird DVD exchange? Then $9 for DVD and a but of streaming, then $18 for both, then fark the DVDs so $9 again.

Well, it's been a weird ride for the last, what 11 years. I think I'll stay.

Also, whenever our credit card gets compromised Netflix already knows the new card number before we do.
 
2017-10-05 09:45:27 PM  

isthisme: Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.

I watch on a Fire TV and I'm guessing they are talking about when you are watching a series and one episodes end, the next pops up in the corner with a little count down clock. If you don't do anything, the next episode will play.

If you want to watch full screen credits, just back out and hit play again. The episode will pick up where it left off and in full screen.

Autoplay only works for 2 episodes in a row. After that it will ask if you are still watching. To me, not a big deal.


No, I'm not talking about the Netflix app auto-playing the next episode. I'm complaining about it auto-playing clips of whatever movie/TV show you have highlighted in the content browser itself. E.g. I get a few seconds of clips auto-played from every TV comedy listed as I browse through the category.
 
2017-10-05 09:46:38 PM  

lindalouwho: Fark_Guy_Rob: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"

So what should their business model be?

I should get everything I want, for whatever price I want, or I should get to take it for free!

Best of all, I don't have to feel guilty because it's *their* fault!

Huh.
I didn't read it that way at all.


Well, I'm being snarky but it's an argument that's been passed around a lot.  I'm not even saying it's wrong.  Still, the core idea being that is a business doesn't conform to some arbitrary rules, rather than choosing not to purchase their products, we will take it for free.

In high school my friends pirated music (they still do) because 'THE RIAA SUCKS!' and they didn't feel that the business model was what they wanted.  Exactly zero of them created or sold their own music.

By college my friends were into pirating games (they still do, except for certain online games where they can't easily pirate) because they disagree with how games are sold.  Either the prices aren't fair, or they dislike some other game where the creator was just trying to 'make money' (EA not having offline single player mode in some game or something) or because they think they should be able to play the full version of the game, entirely, before deciding if they think they should purchase it, after the fact.

Around the same time, they started downloading TV shows and movies.  For similar reasons.  'Cable sucks!  It's too expensive!  I don't want bundles of channels!'  I'll just download it!

In all of the cases, they justified their actions by saying that it was the business's fault for not adhering to a particular business model that they feel is better.  The prices are too high - so I'll pirate it.  I can't watch it how I want - so I'll pirate it.
 
2017-10-05 10:01:21 PM  

Krieghund: Old Smokie: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day it was Blockbuster and chill.  There was something satisfying about going out to dinner, picking up a couple of movies afterword and knowing you were likely going to get lucky later on that evening.

There are a couple of guys in their early 20s where I work that have never set foot in a Blockbuster.  We were just talking about this the is other day.

VHS and veg.

More like VHS and vag.

Unless you'd prefer DVD and dick?  Nothing wrong with that.


That's what "she" said.
 
2017-10-05 10:35:50 PM  

Imaginativescreenname: Hulu has great content (several points docked for not having Criterion Collection titles anymore which was a selling point when i started using Plus), but freezes every ten seconds if i'm doing almost anything requiring the wifi on my computer. Never seen such a greedy bandwith hog.Perhaps this is because i refuse to shell out for the commercial-free version (because when i started using their service hulu plus WAS the commercial-free option)

Netflix has always been bogus in terms of adding and taking things away (usually the same movies, and not nearly tapping into the possibilities of what they could be putting up) and this has only gotten far worse, perhaps with the intention of slowly phasing everything out excepting the original content. Ramping up the cost repeatedly is annoying if they're not going to expand content beyond what they are themselves making and cycling through the same titles ad infinitum with the occasional new item.

Had amazon for about a year and it was ok. i remember watching a lot of stuff i'd already seen before because what was available that i hadn't seen held no interest. This was 2-4 years ago so i'm sure they've added much since then.


Yeah.  That's not Hulu being a bandwidth hog, that's you using dialup.  Or your ISP deliberately throttling you.  I often have Hulu on in the background while I surf, play YouTube videos, watch Twitch, or even play games and Hulu never even hiccups.
 
2017-10-05 10:48:13 PM  

olrasputin: isthisme: Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.

I watch on a Fire TV and I'm guessing they are talking about when you are watching a series and one episodes end, the next pops up in the corner with a little count down clock. If you don't do anything, the next episode will play.

If you want to watch full screen credits, just back out and hit play again. The episode will pick up where it left off and in full screen.

Autoplay only works for 2 episodes in a row. After that it will ask if you are still watching. To me, not a big deal.

No, I'm not talking about the Netflix app auto-playing the next episode. I'm complaining about it auto-playing clips of whatever movie/TV show you have highlighted in the content browser itself. E.g. I get a few seconds of clips auto-played from every TV comedy listed as I browse through the category.


Hate that new "feature" is more like a bug to me.  Annoyns the crap out of me when  I want to browse.  It's gotten to the point that I mute while browsing and then unmute when i choose something.
 
2017-10-05 11:12:03 PM  
RyansPrivates:
Hate that new "feature" is more like a bug to me.  Annoyns the crap out of me when  I want to browse.  It's gotten to the point that I mute while browsing and then unmute when i choose something.

Yeah, I do the same thing.
 
2017-10-05 11:58:49 PM  
I've had a Netflix account since they started, added the streaming service when it was made available, then dumped the disk service out right when the plans separated.  I never really cared about the slight increases in cost over the years.

But... over the years they have lost a lot of the content I was originally signed up far. Most of which started with the removal of Babylon 5, then Star trek (though some of it is back, but I've read rumors CBS plans on moving all content to their own streaming service, and CBS hasn't come out and denied it). Some of the newer stuff is on it's way out (or just plain bad).  Disney plans on backing completely out of Netflix, which is what my kids watch on the weekends.  The Netflix originals aren't great, but there are a couple of exceptions.  Daredevil was amazing, but Jessica jones, the Iron Fist, and Cage were god awful.  The defenders wasn't bad, as long as Daredevil was present.  My wife and I really really like THE RANCH, it appeals to the opposites of what attracted us to each other to begin with and we were both big fans of THAT 70's SHOW.  But I DO understand why people don't like it.  We also both loved STRANGER THINGS, but it was far to short and far to long of a wait for Season 2.  Now all I use Netflix for is Saturday morning cartoons for the kids.  Wife seems to use it a lot, but I think with this news we'll probably wind up dumping the service.  Not because it's to expensive, but because the content just isn't there anymore.  We have amazon and there's enough there that's not on Netflix to hold our attention the 4 or 5 hours a week we have to watch TV.

Though, for the extra cost it really isn't a bad increase.  And I will gladly return to Netflix if I see a reasonable amount of interesting content come back.
 
2017-10-06 12:03:10 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Teufelaffe: lindalouwho: dywed88: lindalouwho: WilderKWight: lindalouwho: 10%, a buck more.
Not bad for them to be able to remain competitive. At least for the time being.

That's for you folks on the HD plan. Those of us on the 4K UHD plan will be seeing a bit higher increase. 17%. Two bucks more. Not cool.

The giant corporations getting in the game will wipe them out or take them over/buy them out if they don't, though.
It's gonna get interesting in the next few years.

With their original content I can see there being a place in the market for a neutral party or two. If just with all the content that is made by companies that don't want/aren't big enough for their own service.

As Netflix, I would be far more worried about Amazon long term (but Amazon being awful outside the US is Netflix's edge).

The networks, Comcast, Disney, etc. are all making noises about getting in the game very soon.
It's possible the consumers will be just as screwed price wise as cable is now in the end if it's all ala carte. If it's all good programming, that is.

As more media companies decide to go with their own for-pay streaming service instead of letting Netflix, Hulu, and/or Amazon stream their stuff and people start looking at once again paying in excess of $100-$150 per month for movies and TV like with cable, there's going to be a huge resurgence of piracy.

And the entertainment industry will blame everyone except themselves for it.  "It couldn't possibly be our business model that's driving paying consumers away...it's got to be something else!"

So what should their business model be?

I should get everything I want, for whatever price I want, or I should get to take it for free!

Best of all, I don't have to feel guilty because it's *their* fault!


Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon video are actual real world evidence that millions of people are more than happy to shell out ~$10-$12 per month for fast, easy, on-demand access to movies and TV shows instead of paying $100+ for 200 channels they won't watch and having to check schedules for shows or play the "what should we delete so we can DVR this new show?" game.  It's a functional business model that makes for happy consumers.

Entertainment companies could be taking that to heart and signing licensing deals with one or more of those three, but instead entities like CBS, Sony, Dish, Disney, and Google have decided that THERE'S MONEY IN THEM THAR CONSUMERS and are/will be pushing their own streaming services because they want more money.  The end result for the consumer is to be almost back at square one...$100+ per month to get TV and movies.  The only real improvement will be the lack of schedules and not having to worry about DVR.

This isn't "these entertainment conglomerates aren't meeting my arbitrary standards, so f*ck them", this is, "these entertainment conglomerates want to lower the quality of my entertainment experience so they can get more money out of me.  F*ck them."
 
2017-10-06 04:14:13 AM  

isthisme: Teufelaffe: olrasputin: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

That new farking autoplay feature makes me absolutely murderous. It must be a design feature that was never actually tested, since I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't be annoyed by 5 second snippets of clips playing as they read descriptions of new releases.

What device app are you folks using for Netflix?  I go through the website on a Windows 10 PC and I have no idea what autoplay thing you're talking about.

I watch on a Fire TV and I'm guessing they are talking about when you are watching a series and one episodes end, the next pops up in the corner with a little count down clock. If you don't do anything, the next episode will play.

If you want to watch full screen credits, just back out and hit play again. The episode will pick up where it left off and in full screen.

Autoplay only works for 2 episodes in a row. After that it will ask if you are still watching. To me, not a big deal.


https://www.netflix.com/HdToggle

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-06 08:38:35 AM  

Fonaibung: kab: Netflix believes its price rate is justified by recent service improvements, such as a feature that allows people to download shows onto phones or other devices to watch them offline.

Revamping one of the worst farking UI's on the planet obviously didn't seem important this time around.

/fark your autoplay bullshiat too.

I love Netflix, but I hate autoplay so much that I rarely stream on my PS3. I only download and watch on my Kindle.

Been watching more Hulu lately on their free trial -- and I will be subscribing when that is over. This price increase doesn't bother me at all, but I will definitely not be shy about cutting the Netflix cord if I can't find 3-4 shows of gripping content a year. Iron Fist and Defenders really whiffed.


When did downloading a show/movie become available?  I just learned about that from this thread - this will be a huge help on the next few flights I have to take!
 
2017-10-06 11:16:20 AM  
GuyFawkes:
When did downloading a show/movie become available?  I just learned about that from this thread - this will be a huge help on the next few flights I have to take!

Test it out first. Make sure you test it like you'll use it - turn your tablet onto airplane mode and power cycle it as if you're packing it, going through security, and then pulling it out on the airplane.  For some reason I can't get this use case to work on my daughter's Fire tablet whenever we D/L kids shows for her.

The D/L stuff works fine as long as the Netflix app was logged in at some point.  But if you power up in a place w/o WiFi for it to "authorize" or some shiat, it doesn't seem to work.  Sounds like a failure in the DRM chain, somewhere.
 
2017-10-06 12:03:33 PM  

Teufelaffe: Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon video are actual real world evidence that millions of people are more than happy to shell out ~$10-$12 per month for fast, easy, on-demand access to movies and TV shows instead of paying $100+ for 200 channels they won't watch and having to check schedules for shows or play the "what should we delete so we can DVR this new show?" game. It's a functional business model that makes for happy consumers.


And we're still in the infancy of this new business model.  Netflix made its bones by licensing content that wasn't theirs.  They quickly saw the writing on the wall and shifted to creating their own content, however the majority of their business still relies on those licensing deals.  But what happens as those deals lapse and licensing becomes more and more expensive?

Of course the rights holders see an alternative route to increasing profits.  Are you expecting them to just ignore that?

And I'm agreeing that the end result is shiatty and people are going to end up paying just as much, if not more, than they are with a traditional cable package.  Streaming services are just becoming the new "channels."  It's just that they're not beholden to some set schedule.


Teufelaffe: this is, "these entertainment conglomerates want to lower the quality of my entertainment experience so they can get more money out of me. F*ck them."


So that justifies "stealing" the product?
 
2017-10-06 12:56:11 PM  
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: But what happens as those deals lapse and licensing becomes more and more expensive?

Of course the rights holders see an alternative route to increasing profits.  Are you expecting them to just ignore that?


The really interesting thing will be to see what shakes out in terms of the costs of running your own streaming service and the costs to attract and retain audiences vs. just losing some of the potential profit by licensing to a service like Netflix.

CBS may find that their streamer isn't as profitable as they're hoping if (a) the cost of running the service exceeds their estimates or (b) they don't attract as many viewers and have to either ramp up advertising or start offering concessions (cheaper prices) to get people onto the service.

(a) will be a function of expected video quality - Netflix has learned (and spent many years upgrading as a result) that customers have very low tolerance for video playback issues.  CBS will need to have near-perfect performance here or fail the inevitable comparisons.

(b) will be a function of the draw of the programming.  ST:D (ew, just realized that's an unfortunate title abbreviation) may not be the long-term draw they're hoping for.  Netflix is a good example of how much it costs to develop attractive* content.  (*in the literal sense)
 
2017-10-06 01:25:29 PM  
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2017-10-06 02:00:39 PM  

BigSquibowski: Been getting kinda bored with you anyhow Netflix.
I've come to the conclusion there are few things I actually want to watch on any platform.
Most of the time it's just background noise while I play on my phone or tab.
Costing me more to be background noise when someone else will do it for free? Nah.
You ain't that great Netflix. I'd agree you were worth it if I hadn't watched most anything I wanted to see already or you had decent movies. I'm sick of low rent comedy shows and syndicated tv.
I think I'll call it a day over a dollar. 10 was such a nice round efficient number.

/Stranger Things sucked
//Don't care
///It was cheap nostalgia whoring.


If it's just background noise, why are you paying for high def? Just downgrade to the $8 / month SD plan.
 
2017-10-06 02:17:32 PM  

Herbie555: The really interesting thing will be to see what shakes out in terms of the costs of running your own streaming service and the costs to attract and retain audiences vs. just losing some of the potential profit by licensing to a service like Netflix.

CBS may find that their streamer isn't as profitable as they're hoping if (a) the cost of running the service exceeds their estimates or (b) they don't attract as many viewers and have to either ramp up advertising or start offering concessions (cheaper prices) to get people onto the service.

(a) will be a function of expected video quality - Netflix has learned (and spent many years upgrading as a result) that customers have very low tolerance for video playback issues. CBS will need to have near-perfect performance here or fail the inevitable comparisons.

(b) will be a function of the draw of the programming. ST:D (ew, just realized that's an unfortunate title abbreviation) may not be the long-term draw they're hoping for. Netflix is a good example of how much it costs to develop attractive* content. (*in the literal sense)


Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things play out over the next decade.  Netflix (and Amazon) seem to be leading the way with the likes of CBS, Disney, etc. trying to get in on the action.  I'm not sure how sustainable the model is for any of them.
 
2017-10-06 02:28:04 PM  
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things play out over the next decade.  Netflix (and Amazon) seem to be leading the way with the likes of CBS, Disney, etc. trying to get in on the action.  I'm not sure how sustainable the model is for any of them.

I do think the market will support streaming as an alternative to broadcast.  I do not think the market can support every content-creator having their own delivery portal and their own price.

Looking at my phone right now, I have 25 different apps dedicated to streaming content of one type or another. (Most are channel-specific apps that I get to use because I'm a paying cable customer).  If each of those apps was costing me actual money to access the content - no farking way.

So, as much as we're all pushing for "a la carte" or "cable cutting" options, I think the reality is that eventually the system will collapse back down to a handful of content aggregators with a few of the bigger content-creators offering their stuff on the aggregators and on the side for the hold-outs, (only because a company like HBO can offer enough draw that people might pay separately if it's priced right.)
 
2017-10-06 02:46:42 PM  

Herbie555: I do think the market will support streaming as an alternative to broadcast. I do not think the market can support every content-creator having their own delivery portal and their own price.


I completely agree, and expect streaming to completely overtake traditional broadcast.
 
2017-10-06 03:06:35 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Herbie555: I do think the market will support streaming as an alternative to broadcast. I do not think the market can support every content-creator having their own delivery portal and their own price.

I completely agree, and expect streaming to completely overtake traditional broadcast.


Several things will end up happening first.  The content creators that can will start their own streaming services.  I think that there is probably only one that is coming out that can sustain that: Disney.  The others are likly to try for a while and then fail because there won't be enough of a draw for most consumers.

I can see getting a "big 3 or 4" on demand streaming providers: Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, and Disney.

Then the others (20th century fox, Warner Brothers, Sony) will make deals with them.  Outside of that you might have a few "premium" channels like HBO Now that could survive

Finally, you have the live streamers for sports, news, and "broadcast".  I think that will survive based largely on ad revenue and cable/satellite providers offering bundles of live with a few of the on demand streaming providres.  So for example you get DirecTV now with HBO (already exists),  I think one of them is bundling Netflix, IIRC. 

People will inevitably want live content, especially for sports.  Obviously OTA can you some of that, but there will be those who want it on their phone/tablet/etc.
 
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