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(Komo)   Woman critically injured in Las Vegas shooting immediately fired by soul-sucking corporate suits whose only concern is the bottom line . . . wait, what? They sent a dedicated HR person to help the family? What strange devilry is this?   ( komonews.com) divider line
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2017-10-05 11:46:20 AM  
Well, sure.  I mean, just look at that cleavage.

/ducks.
 
2017-10-05 12:26:06 PM  
Out-farking-standing, Ernst & Young!
 
2017-10-05 12:30:16 PM  
This tragedy ripples out forever.  My cousin is still waiting for her fiance's body to be released from the morgue so they can transport him while they simultaneously try to schedule his cremation and two memorial services in Southern California.  The trauma is going to continue for many people for a long farking time and it is heartbreaking and depressing.  I don't know how many on Fark are affected, but if you are, I pray for the light to someday touch your soul again.  Peace.
 
2017-10-05 01:27:25 PM  
That's incredible. I hope the young lady pulls through with the least amount of damage possible.
 
2017-10-05 02:03:27 PM  
I'm taking a job at a place that has clauses like this built into their contracts. Stuff like if you get sick or hurt on vacation, they will pay to fly a loved one out to you.

I could not believe what I was reading, but apparently there are still a few places that try take care of their people.

/offer not valid in red states
 
2017-10-05 02:03:57 PM  

Dr.Fey: Well, sure.  I mean, just look at that cleavage.

/ducks.


I only clicked on the article because of your comment. I have half a mind to tell you off, but you certainly have an eye for cleavage
 
2017-10-05 02:05:32 PM  

Dr.Fey: Well, sure.  I mean, just look at that cleavage.

/ducks.


At least it'll distract from what the bullet did to her forehead and eye...
 
2017-10-05 02:06:33 PM  
I like how they didn't make it a big media thing...oh...
 
2017-10-05 02:07:00 PM  
It shouldn't be surprising that a company is doing the right thing.  But it is.
Whether surprising or not, good on them.
 
2017-10-05 02:07:11 PM  
i know her dad.  damn.
 
2017-10-05 02:07:11 PM  
Hey, some people pay good money to have their soul sucked...
 
2017-10-05 02:08:58 PM  
Simple math, that far too many companies just fail to understand.

Cost of on-site HR person, family hotel rooms for 7 to 10 days, meals, medical bills not already covered by major medical insurance: +/- $100,000 let's say, offset by articles such as this that get them highest-order glowing PR, building their brand.  They probably even have a catastrophic employee event insurance policy that's going to get them back all the out of pocket spend.

Cost of NOT doing this, and leaving the employee out to dry: potentially zero, but also potentially tens or
hundreds of millions in lost market cap, goodwill, and overall brand identity.

Bottom line, they ARE accountants.  I'm certain somewhere in their loss prevention group, some number of years ago, that math was done down to the dollar.

/not saying it's not a terrific thing, and good for her.
//not saying they don't deserve the praise, either, as too many companies are still penny-wise, pound-foolish on this.
 
2017-10-05 02:10:01 PM  
Cheap advertising?

/DNRTFA
//jaded
 
2017-10-05 02:12:25 PM  
E & Y = fantastic, and it's about time we heard something nice about one of the big accounting firms.

Family friend Klinger: "He was really remarkable."Because he took off his shirt and wrapped it around her head????  Prince Valiant where have you been hiding and do you have any single brothers?

He's a 'long term,' boyfriend, and there's a good chance she has seen him without his shirt on.
 
2017-10-05 02:12:44 PM  
I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.
 
2017-10-05 02:13:00 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: This tragedy ripples out forever.  My cousin is still waiting for her fiance's body to be released from the morgue so they can transport him while they simultaneously try to schedule his cremation and two memorial services in Southern California.  The trauma is going to continue for many people for a long farking time and it is heartbreaking and depressing.  I don't know how many on Fark are affected, but if you are, I pray for the light to someday touch your soul again.  Peace.


It's one thing to mourn the sudden death of a loved one, it must be farking hell for it to happen in such a despicable way.
 
2017-10-05 02:13:48 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: I'm taking a job at a place that has clauses like this built into their contracts. Stuff like if you get sick or hurt on vacation, they will pay to fly a loved one out to you.

I could not believe what I was reading, but apparently there are still a few places that try take care of their people.

/offer not valid in red states


I'm not religious but I'll say a few words to every god and goddess I know for you and those affected.

I cannot imagine what's going through your minds, or how the survivors feel.

Watching those that helped make me wonder how long until we stop caring about the little things and just see each other as fellow humans in this tiny rock with the same dreams.

I try to explain this stuff to me kids and I can't. There is nothing logical about any of this.

Be safe, be strong.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2017-10-05 02:13:58 PM  
Well, good on E&Y, but it's sad that a corporation doing the right thing is so rare now that it's newsworthy.
 
2017-10-05 02:15:46 PM  
The big accounting firms are generally very good in their HR practices, and have been for a long time.  I'm glad to see that hasn't changed since I left.

That said, I also really hope they hadn't comped her the tickets, along with her co-worker, because holy liability.
 
2017-10-05 02:17:05 PM  

DubyaHater: Dr.Fey: Well, sure.  I mean, just look at that cleavage.

/ducks.

I only clicked on the article because of your comment. I have half a mind to tell you off, but you certainly have an eye for cleavage


I see what you did there....

Also, concurs:

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 02:17:08 PM  
Shooter was an accountant... Just saying
 
2017-10-05 02:20:14 PM  

mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.


We have no indication of how severe (or not severe) the damage to the brain may be. Neither does anyone else, although the docs at least know what part of the brain was damaged.
The optimist in me thinks need more info first.
 
2017-10-05 02:23:13 PM  

LarryDan43: I like how they didn't make it a big media thing...oh...


The family shouldn't rave about something way above and beyond her employer is doing for her?
 
2017-10-05 02:24:04 PM  

lindalouwho: mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.

We have no indication of how severe (or not severe) the damage to the brain may be. Neither does anyone else, although the docs at least know what part of the brain was damaged.
The optimist in me thinks need more info first.


I mean give the person a chance.  She'll have no depth perception but plenty of people lead happy lives with brain damage.  Just look at the politics tab.
 
2017-10-05 02:28:15 PM  

Warthog: Simple math, that far too many companies just fail to understand.

Cost of on-site HR person, family hotel rooms for 7 to 10 days, meals, medical bills not already covered by major medical insurance: +/- $100,000 let's say, offset by articles such as this that get them highest-order glowing PR, building their brand.  They probably even have a catastrophic employee event insurance policy that's going to get them back all the out of pocket spend.

Cost of NOT doing this, and leaving the employee out to dry: potentially zero, but also potentially tens or
hundreds of millions in lost market cap, goodwill, and overall brand identity.

Bottom line, they ARE accountants.  I'm certain somewhere in their loss prevention group, some number of years ago, that math was done down to the dollar.

/not saying it's not a terrific thing, and good for her.
//not saying they don't deserve the praise, either, as too many companies are still penny-wise, pound-foolish on this.


Someone very unpopular with many liberals once had one of her characters say: "The rational self interests of individuals do not conflict with one another." Given, that that statement may not apply to "lifeboat" situations (of which this care is not).
 
2017-10-05 02:28:34 PM  

valenumr: Shooter was an accountant... Just saying


Aha! It all tallies up now!
 
2017-10-05 02:29:14 PM  

mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.


Why do you feel this is selfish?

As someone who's gone through this from the family's side, I can tell you it's not a selfish thing at all.

/Not so CSB time
Years ago when the wife and I had only been married a year, we got the phone call everyone dreads.  The Mrs' Dad had been struck by some idiot doing her make-up in morning traffic and had knocked his car into oncoming traffic.  He got t-boned by a work truck carrying railroad tracks.

They life flighted him to a trauma center and most of the family arrived within an hour.  My wife was just finishing nursing school and so knew after talking with the docs that things were Not Good.  Later that same day the surgeons had the awful sit-down talk with the family and highly recommended taking him off life support.

Unfortunately at the time, my mother-in-law was way too blind-sided by all this (of course) and had the gut reaction that most anyone would right on the spot and told them to do everything possible to save him.

Long story short, three awful years of feeding tubes, ventilators, and nursing homes later he finally passed away.

EVERYONE in the family has a DNR living will now.
//Not so CSB time

tldr;  Get a living will with a DNR.  You're not being selfish, you're being thoughtful about your loved ones lives.
 
2017-10-05 02:30:54 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: This tragedy ripples out forever.  My cousin is still waiting for her fiance's body to be released from the morgue so they can transport him while they simultaneously try to schedule his cremation and two memorial services in Southern California.  The trauma is going to continue for many people for a long farking time and it is heartbreaking and depressing.  I don't know how many on Fark are affected, but if you are, I pray for the light to someday touch your soul again.  Peace.


You and your family and any other Farkers affected are in my thoughts. May you all find the peace and healing you need.
 
2017-10-05 02:32:40 PM  

maxandgrinch: E & Y = fantastic, and it's about time we heard something nice about one of the big accounting firms.

Family friend Klinger: "He was really remarkable."Because he took off his shirt and wrapped it around her head????  Prince Valiant where have you been hiding and do you have any single brothers?

He's a 'long term,' boyfriend, and there's a good chance she has seen him without his shirt on.


It may have been a really nice shirt.
 
2017-10-05 02:35:00 PM  
Dr.Fey:

/ducks.

She should have too.
 
2017-10-05 02:36:23 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Occam's Disposable Razor: I'm taking a job at a place that has clauses like this built into their contracts. Stuff like if you get sick or hurt on vacation, they will pay to fly a loved one out to you.

I could not believe what I was reading, but apparently there are still a few places that try take care of their people.

/offer not valid in red states

I'm not religious but I'll say a few words to every god and goddess I know for you and those affected.

I cannot imagine what's going through your minds, or how the survivors feel.

Watching those that helped make me wonder how long until we stop caring about the little things and just see each other as fellow humans in this tiny rock with the same dreams.

I try to explain this stuff to me kids and I can't. There is nothing logical about any of this.

Be safe, be strong.


Appreciate the sentiment, but I think you clicked the wrong quote. Me and mine are all good, but unfortunately way too many people were touched by this one.
 
2017-10-05 02:37:16 PM  
I don't know why people are saying good on the company for doing the right thing when they are doing above and beyond the right thing. The real right thing would be talking to the family about any benefits or whatever she would qualify for and keeping her job for her if she still wants it or is able to even do it. Flying out what is basically a full time personal assistant to assist the family with anything they might need is way more than any employer could be expected to do.
 
2017-10-05 02:38:33 PM  

Warthog: Simple math, that far too many companies just fail to understand.

Cost of on-site HR person, family hotel rooms for 7 to 10 days, meals, medical bills not already covered by major medical insurance: +/- $100,000 let's say, offset by articles such as this that get them highest-order glowing PR, building their brand.  They probably even have a catastrophic employee event insurance policy that's going to get them back all the out of pocket spend.

Cost of NOT doing this, and leaving the employee out to dry: potentially zero, but also potentially tens or
hundreds of millions in lost market cap, goodwill, and overall brand identity.

Bottom line, they ARE accountants.  I'm certain somewhere in their loss prevention group, some number of years ago, that math was done down to the dollar.

/not saying it's not a terrific thing, and good for her.
//not saying they don't deserve the praise, either, as too many companies are still penny-wise, pound-foolish on this.


Add in the benefit of showing your employees you give two shiats about them and the increased output you'll get from them on top of loyalty preventing higher turnover and the cost of training new employees/lost profit from their inexperience.
 
2017-10-05 02:41:07 PM  
FTA: "The bullet pierced the frontal lobes of her brain before ricocheting, landing in her right eye. "

Yikes... good luck coming back from that one. Maybe that's why EY is being so supportive now: she's a goner for sure.
 
2017-10-05 02:44:49 PM  
She's stable, but obviously still very critical," said Klinger

img.fark.net
 
2017-10-05 02:46:37 PM  

Libelec: FTA: "The bullet pierced the frontal lobes of her brain before ricocheting, landing in her right eye. "

Yikes... good luck coming back from that one. Maybe that's why EY is being so supportive now: she's a goner for sure.


Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I thought if you were going to have brain trauma the frontal lobe is the "best" place to get it...
 
2017-10-05 02:47:49 PM  

AllUpInYa: Dr.Fey: Well, sure.  I mean, just look at that cleavage.

/ducks.

At least it'll distract from what the bullet did to her forehead and eye...


I think an eye patch could be pretty sexy.

I did find.myself thinking one of the reasons this made the news is because she is pretty though. We live in a very shallow society. Us ugly people matter to!
 
2017-10-05 02:48:42 PM  

Warthog: Simple math, that far too many companies just fail to understand.

Cost of on-site HR person, family hotel rooms for 7 to 10 days, meals, medical bills not already covered by major medical insurance: +/- $100,000 let's say, offset by articles such as this that get them highest-order glowing PR, building their brand.  They probably even have a catastrophic employee event insurance policy that's going to get them back all the out of pocket spend.

Cost of NOT doing this, and leaving the employee out to dry: potentially zero, but also potentially tens or
hundreds of millions in lost market cap, goodwill, and overall brand identity.

Bottom line, they ARE accountants.  I'm certain somewhere in their loss prevention group, some number of years ago, that math was done down to the dollar.

/not saying it's not a terrific thing, and good for her.
//not saying they don't deserve the praise, either, as too many companies are still penny-wise, pound-foolish on this.


Also it should be noted that all accounting firms, particularly the big ones, have their own peculiar sets of tribal knowledge, and it costs lots of money, time, and efficiencies to impart that knowledge. So even if her chances of recovery are south of a fraction of 1% it is an educated rational gamble to do everything in their power to get her back as an effective employee.
 
2017-10-05 02:49:08 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Libelec: FTA: "The bullet pierced the frontal lobes of her brain before ricocheting, landing in her right eye. "

Yikes... good luck coming back from that one. Maybe that's why EY is being so supportive now: she's a goner for sure.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I thought if you were going to have brain trauma the frontal lobe is the "best" place to get it...


Not to sure about that. Frontal lobes control memory, language, judgement, and problem solving. I hope she has very very minor damage and can recover.
 
2017-10-05 02:50:39 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Occam's Disposable Razor: I'm taking a job at a place that has clauses like this built into their contracts. Stuff like if you get sick or hurt on vacation, they will pay to fly a loved one out to you.

I could not believe what I was reading, but apparently there are still a few places that try take care of their people.

/offer not valid in red states

I'm not religious but I'll say a few words to every god and goddess I know for you and those affected.

I cannot imagine what's going through your minds, or how the survivors feel.

Watching those that helped make me wonder how long until we stop caring about the little things and just see each other as fellow humans in this tiny rock with the same dreams.

I try to explain this stuff to me kids and I can't. There is nothing logical about any of this.

Be safe, be strong.


It will probably take invasion by carnivorous aliens.
 
2017-10-05 02:51:39 PM  

mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.


She may not come out so bad off. The bullet his her right hemisphere so her language skills will likely be intact, and if it did not go too far back she may not even have severe motor impairments.

Her personality may change in unpredictable ways and she may have issues with so e skills such as visiuspatial and.aome types of planning. But she is young and otherwise healthy and if the damage is fairly localized to right prefrontal regions she may recover surprisingly well.
 
2017-10-05 02:52:48 PM  

Roja Herring: lindalouwho: mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.

We have no indication of how severe (or not severe) the damage to the brain may be. Neither does anyone else, although the docs at least know what part of the brain was damaged.
The optimist in me thinks need more info first.

I mean give the person a chance.  She'll have no depth perception but plenty of people lead happy lives with brain damage.  Just look at the politics tab.


low hanging fruit
 
2017-10-05 02:52:56 PM  
What, you mean the liberals posting on twitter about how glad they are trump supporters were shot was not the way to go? Shocking.
 
2017-10-05 02:53:41 PM  
My friends, who did some freelance bartending  at the festival, are able to get some counseling free of charge from the company they temped for. Thankfully, they are physically fine, but they are still exhibiting some signs of PTSD and survivor's guilt. It's very good that the company is helping anyway they can. Most people have been very helpful with the whole situation.
 
2017-10-05 02:55:39 PM  

maxandgrinch: E & Y = fantastic, and it's about time we heard something nice about one of the big accounting firms.

Family friend Klinger: "He was really remarkable."Because he took off his shirt and wrapped it around her head????  Prince Valiant where have you been hiding and do you have any single brothers?

He's a 'long term,' boyfriend, and there's a good chance she has seen him without his shirt on.


That could be more a comment about how remarkable he was to stay calm, secure her a spot in a hospital bound vehicle and do something to try and help the wound. A lot of people would have just freaked the fark out if their girlfriend got shot in the head standing next to them.
 
2017-10-05 02:55:55 PM  

Warthog: Simple math, that far too many companies just fail to understand.

Cost of on-site HR person, family hotel rooms for 7 to 10 days, meals, medical bills not already covered by major medical insurance: +/- $100,000 let's say, offset by articles such as this that get them highest-order glowing PR, building their brand.  They probably even have a catastrophic employee event insurance policy that's going to get them back all the out of pocket spend.

Cost of NOT doing this, and leaving the employee out to dry: potentially zero, but also potentially tens or
hundreds of millions in lost market cap, goodwill, and overall brand identity.

Bottom line, they ARE accountants.  I'm certain somewhere in their loss prevention group, some number of years ago, that math was done down to the dollar.

/not saying it's not a terrific thing, and good for her.
//not saying they don't deserve the praise, either, as too many companies are still penny-wise, pound-foolish on this.


CSB:

Several years ago I was working at a non-profit summer camp and 3 days in to a two week camp we were evacuated due to wildfire on 2 hours notice. We loaded the kids and got everybody out to a Red Cross shelter around dinner time. Consultation at the shelter with fire officials told us it was unlikely that we'd get back for several days. So the remainder of that session (last of the summer) was cancelled, fees and tuition are all refunded, and we started arranging pickups for the kids.

By midnight all the kids were on their way home, and the company puts all of the non-local staff in a hotel for the night. Fair enough.

The next morning, we're informed of the following: the company will provide us (75ish people) with a hotel room (at some really nice hotels, holy shiat) for the duration of the evacuation order. We will continue to get paid for a full day for each day of the evacuation, and on top of that we'll get a $40/day per diem for meals and other expenses. They also bought us some movie tickets and stuff and took us all out go-karting for a day. The evacuation order was lifted 4 or 5 days later.

Their legal obligations to us were the following: pay us for what we'd already worked and allow us to retrieve anything we'd left behind when we evacuated.

Kudos to E&Y.
 
2017-10-05 02:56:33 PM  
All that good free press, and at a fraction of the cost of paying for advertising.

/TANSTAAFL
 
2017-10-05 03:01:04 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Libelec: FTA: "The bullet pierced the frontal lobes of her brain before ricocheting, landing in her right eye. "

Yikes... good luck coming back from that one. Maybe that's why EY is being so supportive now: she's a goner for sure.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I thought if you were going to have brain trauma the frontal lobe is the "best" place to get it...


If I had to loose a love, I would choose occipital every time.

Yes I would be left bling, but all.my cognitive processes (except things realted.to visional processing, and see above) would be intact.

Prefrontal damage can actually cause severe behavioral changes, such as lack of inhibition as well as inappropriate emotional outbursts. And problems with memory and, on the left usually, language.
 
2017-10-05 03:02:23 PM  

TheAnusThatAteManhattan: mikebellman: I can't tell if I'm an outlier or just a weirdo...

I... wouldn't want to be saved from this type of injury.  However I don't have enough selfish intent to create the medical directive stating so.  Because of my family.

What a nightmare.

Why do you feel this is selfish?

As someone who's gone through this from the family's side, I can tell you it's not a selfish thing at all.

/Not so CSB time
Years ago when the wife and I had only been married a year, we got the phone call everyone dreads.  The Mrs' Dad had been struck by some idiot doing her make-up in morning traffic and had knocked his car into oncoming traffic.  He got t-boned by a work truck carrying railroad tracks.

They life flighted him to a trauma center and most of the family arrived within an hour.  My wife was just finishing nursing school and so knew after talking with the docs that things were Not Good.  Later that same day the surgeons had the awful sit-down talk with the family and highly recommended taking him off life support.

Unfortunately at the time, my mother-in-law was way too blind-sided by all this (of course) and had the gut reaction that most anyone would right on the spot and told them to do everything possible to save him.

Long story short, three awful years of feeding tubes, ventilators, and nursing homes later he finally passed away.

EVERYONE in the family has a DNR living will now.
//Not so CSB time

tldr;  Get a living will with a DNR.  You're not being selfish, you're being thoughtful about your loved ones lives.


When I was diagnosed with cancer last year, the first thing I did was create a living will, a DNR then went home and made a DVD for my son explaining all of life's mysteries through my eyes,why I chose a DNR, my favorite memories of him and me and my hopes for his future.

2 treatments left!
 
2017-10-05 03:03:36 PM  

Harlee: Unoriginal_Username: Watching those that helped make me wonder how long until we stop caring about the little things and just see each other as fellow humans in this tiny rock with the same dreams.

It will probably take invasion by carnivorous aliens.


Sadly smarted. (Smarted sadly?)
 
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