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(iNews (UK))   Starship Troopers: the 90s sci-fi action comedy that continues to reflect our political past, present and future. Would you like to know more?   ( inews.co.uk) divider line
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2017-10-05 01:50:37 PM  
25 votes:
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/You guys are slippin' here
2017-10-05 01:44:02 PM  
16 votes:

Strongbeerrules: What I couldn't figure out was why Rico had to be submerged in a water tank to heal his leg wound.


It's got electrolytes.
2017-10-05 01:14:02 PM  
15 votes:
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2017-10-05 02:58:42 PM  
9 votes:

give me doughnuts: Rocketboy1313: The movie is better than the book.

The book is not a smart as it thinks it is.

And it is certainly not as smart as its legions of fanboys claim it is.

The movie at least acknowledges this and makes it a joke.


Verhoeven isn't smart or subtle enough to make a satire.
He just made (another) shiatty movie.


Do you shave with that edge?
2017-10-05 02:14:00 PM  
9 votes:

21-37-42: Who ya got?
Team Dina
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
or Team Denise?

[img.fark.net image 289x174]


Team Why Not Both
2017-10-05 02:09:43 PM  
9 votes:

real_headhoncho: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 298x169]
/meme storm ahead...


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2017-10-05 02:09:37 PM  
9 votes:
A search for Starship Troopers Memes yielded the following results:
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And also:

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2017-10-05 02:59:35 PM  
7 votes:

Flappyhead: give me doughnuts: Rocketboy1313: The movie is better than the book.

The book is not a smart as it thinks it is.

And it is certainly not as smart as its legions of fanboys claim it is.

The movie at least acknowledges this and makes it a joke.


Verhoeven isn't smart or subtle enough to make a satire.
He just made (another) shiatty movie.

Do you shave with that edge?


No, it's just a very blunt truth.
2017-10-05 01:41:10 PM  
6 votes:

Strongbeerrules: What I couldn't figure out was why Rico had to be submerged in a water tank to heal his leg wound.


It's a Bacta tank.  Duh.

Satire doesn't have to get all the incidental details right.
2017-10-05 03:48:04 PM  
5 votes:

espiaboricua: ColSanders: espiaboricua:
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Do you have the original of that?

As a matter of fact, I do: Thou Shall Click Hereof (NSFW obviously).


Let's try that again: Thou Shall Click Hereof (NSFW Rules Apply).
2017-10-05 02:06:17 PM  
5 votes:
Who ya got?
Team Dina
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or Team Denise?

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2017-10-05 03:46:21 PM  
4 votes:

ColSanders: espiaboricua:
[img.fark.net image 599x466]

Do you have the original of that?


As a matter of fact, I do: Thou Shall Click Hereof (NSFW obviously).
2017-10-05 02:47:22 PM  
4 votes:

Lothar IB: I like both the book and movie. What I hate is people turning every story into a social economical political commentary and judgement of our current blah blah blah shut the fark up and enjoy the giant bugs getting shot. Not everything needs to have some deep inner meaning.


Sometimes social economical political commentary is just social economical political commentary
2017-10-05 02:31:47 PM  
4 votes:

PartTimeBuddha: Strongbeerrules: What I couldn't figure out was why Rico had to be submerged in a water tank to heal his leg wound.

It's got electrolytes.


Rico was a plant?  Well that would explain the blank expression throughout the movie.
2017-10-05 04:10:44 PM  
2 votes:

skyotter: 21-37-42: Who ya got?
Team Dina
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
or Team Denise?

[img.fark.net image 289x174]

Team Why Not Both

img.fark.net
2017-10-05 03:24:41 PM  
2 votes:

espiaboricua: A search for Starship Troopers Memes yielded the following results:
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[img.fark.net image 775x496]

[img.fark.net image 599x466]

And also:

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You got the original of that?

/oblig
//still funny
2017-10-05 03:04:20 PM  
2 votes:

ox45tallboy: As a huge fan of the book, the movie pissed me off something fierce, and I could never appreciate it for what it was.I think it would have been much better had they just changed the character and location names and called it something else.


I propose "A movie with gender neutral communal shower scenes!"
2017-10-05 02:07:58 PM  
2 votes:

Strongbeerrules: What I couldn't figure out was why Rico had to be submerged in a water tank to heal his leg wound.


Because he's infantry.  The med techs were playing a prank and he was too stupid to ask any questions.

On the other side, there was a sign, "HE FELL FOR IT!  DON'T LET ON!"
2017-10-05 01:40:51 PM  
2 votes:

Rocketboy1313: This text is now purple: Rocketboy1313: The movie is better than the book.

The book is not a smart as it thinks it is.

...But neither is the movie.

So are you just going to ignore the second half of my post?
"And it is certainly not as smart as its legions of fanboys claim it is.

The movie at least acknowledges this and makes it a joke."


Would you like to know more?
2017-10-05 07:04:30 PM  
1 vote:

LewDux: Seriouslu, who taught them warfare, Stalin?


2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com
2017-10-05 05:16:40 PM  
1 vote:

LewDux: Lothar IB: I like both the book and movie. What I hate is people turning every story into a social economical political commentary and judgement of our current blah blah blah shut the fark up and enjoy the giant bugs getting shot. Not everything needs to have some deep inner meaning.

Sometimes social economical political commentary is just social economical political commentary


But most of the time it's a big fat brown penis.

/No wait, that's a cigar.
2017-10-05 05:00:29 PM  
1 vote:

demiurgex: madgonad: brokendownyota: Rocketboy1313: T
The book is not a smart as it thinks it is.

I keep seeing people arguing that the book is fascist, ignorant, or otherwise stupid.  Maybe I'm a bit simple, but I am a fan of it and don't agree.  I mean the book espouses almost a meritocracy, but really just the idea that if you're not willing to have some skin in the game, you shouldn't have a ton of say in how things run.  That's basically it.  They go so far as to state that the only reason they use "service = citizenship" is because that was the system in place when they finally squared away how to govern effectively, not because veterans are somehow inherently better/smarter/more talented.

It all seems very reasonable to me.

The book started out with the MI nuking cities that belonged to the Skinnies to discourage them from entering the war on the side of the arachnids. Johnny was afraid of and couldn't talk to girls. Heinlein brings Johnny's father back in at the end when he should have been dead. These are three really obvious reasons how ST is juvenile fiction.

The book just isn't that good. It appeals to teenage boys for the same reason Ayn Rand does. Most men grow out of that phase. I feel the same way about Enders Game.

Your post makes it pretty clear if you read ST, you didn't understand it.    But you are hardly alone.

Voerhoeven said he never read the book.   Michael Moorcock used his criticisms of it to acquire celebrity in a essay called 'Starship Stormtropers.'   He lambasted the work, along with Tolkein.    I asked him about it on his online forum one time.   His response was that he never actually read it.   He just needed to take on a popular work in order to get recognition.

These days I'm pretty far left - well, not as far left as Heinlein in Stranger in a Strange Land, which he wrote at the same time as ST.    But I'll never understand the need to endlessly misrepresent this work.

For example, there's no reason that Johnny's dad should be dead a ...


And Darth Vader was tall in original. it's unbelievable how Spaceballs got that bit wrong
2017-10-05 04:44:42 PM  
1 vote:
CSB mode ON:

I was 14 when the movie came out.  A friend called my house to see if I wanted to go catch it.  It was a school night, so I figured my folks wouldn't go for it.  My dad, upon hearing what movie it was, insisted I go.

/Had no idea why he was so enthusiastic about me seeing it
//He'd read the book as required reading at the War College, wasn't familiar with the movie
///Still enjoyed sweet, sweet bewbies on a school night, though
2017-10-05 04:38:54 PM  
1 vote:

brokendownyota: Rocketboy1313: T
The book is not a smart as it thinks it is.

I keep seeing people arguing that the book is fascist, ignorant, or otherwise stupid.  Maybe I'm a bit simple, but I am a fan of it and don't agree.  I mean the book espouses almost a meritocracy, but really just the idea that if you're not willing to have some skin in the game, you shouldn't have a ton of say in how things run.  That's basically it.  They go so far as to state that the only reason they use "service = citizenship" is because that was the system in place when they finally squared away how to govern effectively, not because veterans are somehow inherently better/smarter/more talented.

It all seems very reasonable to me.


The book started out with the MI nuking cities that belonged to the Skinnies to discourage them from entering the war on the side of the arachnids. Johnny was afraid of and couldn't talk to girls. Heinlein brings Johnny's father back in at the end when he should have been dead. These are three really obvious reasons how ST is juvenile fiction.

The book just isn't that good. It appeals to teenage boys for the same reason Ayn Rand does. Most men grow out of that phase. I feel the same way about Enders Game.
2017-10-05 03:05:48 PM  
1 vote:

21-37-42: Who ya got?
Team Dina
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
or Team Denise?

[img.fark.net image 289x174]


I vote for Team Threesome.
2017-10-05 03:00:14 PM  
1 vote:

ox45tallboy: BeesNuts: ox45tallboy: As a huge fan of the book, the movie pissed me off something fierce, and I could never appreciate it for what it was.I think it would have been much better had they just changed the character and location names and called it something else.

As someone who came to the book after the movie, I love both.

Hey, that's all good. I'm not trying to demean the movie, I'm just saying that it doesn't tell the same story as the book, and might have benefited from not trying to shoehorn the book's characters into the story it wanted to tell.


I hear ya.  Didn't mean to come off as defensive.  I was just sharing my experience with the media, riffing off of you doing the same.  I'm not even sure I disagree that the movie didn't need to be "Starship Troopers".  I'll have to think on that one.  Heck, it could have been a warhammer 40k movie and had exactly the same plot and tone.  Call it "Imperial Guard".
2017-10-05 02:38:50 PM  
1 vote:
I like both the book and movie. What I hate is people turning every story into a social economical political commentary and judgement of our current blah blah blah shut the fark up and enjoy the giant bugs getting shot. Not everything needs to have some deep inner meaning.
2017-10-05 02:28:06 PM  
1 vote:
It's amazing how people at the time didn't realize it was satire. The 4th sequel, Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars is out now with the voices of some the original cast.

Also:
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2017-10-05 02:20:37 PM  
1 vote:

karmaceutical: I love this movie.  It is like a Rorschach test to identify people who are physically incapable of detecting satire.


The problem I have with Starship Troopers as satire is this.

The Arachnids...are DICKS.  They've had seven movies and an animated TV series to subvert this somehow.  They've chosen not to.  Those goddamn things are dicks, through and through, who'll gleefully eviscerate you if you glance in their general direction.
2017-10-05 02:17:56 PM  
1 vote:

21-37-42: Who ya got?
Team Dina
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
or Team Denise?

[img.fark.net image 289x174]


Always Team Dina. Too bad she violated the one cardinal rule of movies like this: Never hook up with your life long crush as it's a sure death sentence within the next few scenes
2017-10-05 02:10:04 PM  
1 vote:

21-37-42: Who ya got?
Team Dina
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
or Team Denise?

[img.fark.net image 289x174]


I have always been team Dina:

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2017-10-05 01:50:09 PM  
1 vote:
And you got to shower with the girls...
2017-10-05 01:09:29 PM  
1 vote:
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
/meme storm ahead...
 
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