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(BBC)   The Catalan Parliament has been suspended. The regional governors will rule directly. Fear will keep the Catalan in line - fear of this court order   ( bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2017-10-05 09:42:41 AM  
... and everyone decided to get ice cream and settle their differences peacefully.

That's how these things are settled right?
 
2017-10-05 09:43:01 AM  
The Kurds, The Catalan, The Californians.
They will stay in line when they see the awesome power of this Death Star.
 
2017-10-05 09:43:41 AM  
No one suspected that.
 
2017-10-05 09:44:00 AM  

aungen: The Kurds, The Catalan, The Californians.
They will stay in line when they see the awesome power of this Death Star.


Don't forget the Texans!
 
2017-10-05 09:45:06 AM  
You mean we won't be able to use those boats that have the two pontoons with the fabric stretched between them that you sit on anymore?
 
2017-10-05 09:45:16 AM  
The more Spain tightens its grip, the more Catalans will slip through its fingers.
 
2017-10-05 09:46:29 AM  
Is this our Spanish civil war discussion thread for October 5th?
 
2017-10-05 09:46:37 AM  
Fear - and Surprise!
 
2017-10-05 09:46:51 AM  
Not a farking civil war in Spain now.

Man, I'd gladly hear some good news for a change.
 
2017-10-05 09:47:00 AM  
¡¡¡PODER ILIMITADO!!!
 
2017-10-05 09:47:31 AM  
Spain and its government deserve this chaos. If they were willing to work in good faith towards a mechanism they would probably vote no. Or it might not even get to a vote. Instead they unreasonably suppresses free speech by trying to interrupt a non binding referendum that only exists because they refuse to discuss the issue. Their asshole king didn't even acknowledge the police brutality or inherent injustice of their deployment and use. They deserve this shiatstorm.
 
2017-10-05 09:47:40 AM  

DOCTORD000M: ... and everyone decided to get ice cream and settle their differences peacefully.

That's how these things are settled right?


Madrid could have settled this peacefully at any point but they don't want to negotiate, they want Catalan to do as they're told and maybe if they behave Madrid will let them have a cookie. Madrid has escalated this situation at every step of the way to the point where I'm starting to think that they wanted this to happen.
 
2017-10-05 09:48:39 AM  
Yeah... that will go over well.

That is the kind of move that tends to push people to decide to go it on their own, even without a police crackdown beforehand.
 
2017-10-05 09:49:18 AM  
In Thursday's ruling, the Constitutional Court upheld a challenge by Catalonia's Socialist Party, which opposes secession from Spain.

But I was assured everyone was on board with this
 
2017-10-05 09:50:21 AM  

DOCTORD000M: ... and everyone decided to get ice cream and settle their differences peacefully.

That's how these things are settled right?


How am I supposed to know?  I was just told to say there was trouble in Catalan.  I wasn't expecting some sort of Spanish Inquisition...
 
2017-10-05 09:50:40 AM  
We are sooo headed towards WWIII.
European Union is farked.
Spain is farked.
Here in the US we don't know which way is up and believe all the crazy that is thrown at us.

Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger.
 
2017-10-05 09:51:01 AM  
good luck keeping a lid on all of that. This is going to look like northern ireland in the bad times. and then add in the jihadists who like to kill folks in the country
 
2017-10-05 09:52:01 AM  

aungen: The Kurds, The Catalan, The Californians.
They will stay in line when they see the awesome power of this Death Star.


One of these 3 are not serious.
 
2017-10-05 09:52:02 AM  

Alunan: Spain and its government deserve this chaos. If they were willing to work in good faith towards a mechanism they would probably vote no. Or it might not even get to a vote. Instead they unreasonably suppresses free speech by trying to interrupt a non binding referendum that only exists because they refuse to discuss the issue. Their asshole king didn't even acknowledge the police brutality or inherent injustice of their deployment and use. They deserve this shiatstorm.


So, you're saying there's violence inherent in the system,?
 
2017-10-05 09:52:35 AM  
Ghost of Picasso is setting up his canvas
 
2017-10-05 09:52:52 AM  
I'd love nothing more than to take one of those fancy bunker busting bombs and drop it straight into Franco's mountain side tomb.
 
2017-10-05 09:56:20 AM  

Tree Surgeon General: Ghost of Picasso is setting up his canvas


Not just Picasso. I think the ghost of Dalí would like a melting, pomegranate-exploding, phallic symbol word, too.
 
2017-10-05 09:59:38 AM  
I like Catalina salad dressing.

/got nothin
 
2017-10-05 10:00:22 AM  
Zombie 15th Brigade?
 
2017-10-05 10:02:26 AM  
Voting to secede from your country and potentially spark a military occupation and/or civil war?

Organisers of Sunday's referendum put the turnout at 42%

Catalans: "Meh, who gives a shiat?"
 
2017-10-05 10:02:26 AM  

Kriggerel: Tree Surgeon General: Ghost of Picasso is setting up his canvas

Not just Picasso. I think the ghost of Dalí would like a melting, pomegranate-exploding, phallic symbol word, too.


Dalí might have had something to say about Catalan independence? That Figueres
 
2017-10-05 10:02:37 AM  
Spain really doesn't want to lose 330 billion in GDP and 7 million people overnight.
 
2017-10-05 10:03:01 AM  
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2017-10-05 10:03:15 AM  

Alunan: Spain and its government deserve this chaos.


Amusingly, this is the same Spanish government that wants to re-take Gibraltar as a condition of Brexit. Bit of a dilemma for the "Britain is stoopid and the EU are all-wise and thoroughly reasonable" Farkers.
 
2017-10-05 10:05:46 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: In Thursday's ruling, the Constitutional Court upheld a challenge by Catalonia's Socialist Party, which opposes secession from Spain.

But I was assured everyone was on board with this


They're not. That is why the Spanish government would have been a lot wiser to co-opt the referendum, and may well have avoided a majority Out vote.

/I honestly don't know why they are forcing a crisis
 
2017-10-05 10:08:11 AM  

NoahBuddy: HotWingConspiracy: In Thursday's ruling, the Constitutional Court upheld a challenge by Catalonia's Socialist Party, which opposes secession from Spain.

But I was assured everyone was on board with this

They're not. That is why the Spanish government would have been a lot wiser to co-opt the referendum, and may well have avoided a majority Out vote.

/I honestly don't know why they are forcing a crisis


It's always the socialists
 
2017-10-05 10:08:39 AM  

BigNumber12: Voting to secede from your country and potentially spark a military occupation and/or civil war?


...that's kinda saying that if you tell your husband that you want a divorce, it will be your own fault if he decides to beat you up.
 
2017-10-05 10:10:11 AM  

Mad Scientist: The more Spain tightens its grip, the more Catalans will slip through its fingers.


The more you tighten your grip Tarkin, the more sperm systems will slip through your fingers.

/ftfy
 
2017-10-05 10:12:39 AM  

BigNumber12: Voting to secede from your country and potentially spark a military occupation and/or civil war?

Organisers of Sunday's referendum put the turnout at 42%

Catalans: "Meh, who gives a shiat?"


Spain could have rolled their eyes and satisfied Barcelona with some token acknowledgement of Catalan cultural identity until they sent police to beat up old ladies trying to vote. In the last week Madrid has given truth to the worst things the Catalan separatists where accusing them of. The king's speech and total disregard of any of Catalonia's concerns only made the whole thing much worse.
 
2017-10-05 10:13:32 AM  

Alunan: Spain and its government deserve this chaos. If they were willing to work in good faith towards a mechanism they would probably vote no. Or it might not even get to a vote. Instead they unreasonably suppresses free speech by trying to interrupt a non binding referendum that only exists because they refuse to discuss the issue. Their asshole king didn't even acknowledge the police brutality or inherent injustice of their deployment and use. They deserve this shiatstorm.


There is something inevitable about this stupidity - look at the UK and Scotland, they practically threatened them with being shut out of the EU and got their buddies in the EU to do the same... Then turned around and Brexited, forcing Scotland out of the EU. Most likely making inevitable Scottish independence in the near future.

Something about the logic of nations in these circumstances leads this way. The exception I can think of is Belgium, which is like a couple everyone thought would get divorced but now it's their 30th anniversary and they still seem like they could divorce any day but now nobody thinks it will happen at all.
 
2017-10-05 10:16:27 AM  
Suspended you say?
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Catalan Parliament enjoying a nice meal out.
 
2017-10-05 10:16:45 AM  
Smart move.  Repression and the suspension of self-governance is always a good way to quell an insurrection.  Clearly nothing horrible can come of this.
 
2017-10-05 10:16:54 AM  
They got a good shot at independence (again) because:

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2017-10-05 10:17:11 AM  
Has Putin got his fingers on this one too?
 
2017-10-05 10:18:10 AM  

fngoofy: We are sooo headed towards WWIII.
European Union is farked.
Spain is farked.
Here in the US we don't know which way is up and believe all the crazy that is thrown at us.

Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger.


Apocolypse Now aside, I really don't see how Catalonia breaking off will jeopardize the EU.
 
2017-10-05 10:20:26 AM  
The Spanish oligarchs just didn't learn anything after they annoyed the Basque.  King Phil must be hoping Catalans will not be quite as intense.
 
2017-10-05 10:21:14 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Has Putin got his fingers on this one too?


It wouldn't surprise me. Weakening the EU has been a hobby of his for a while.

/Probably not, though
 
2017-10-05 10:21:32 AM  

Comic Book Guy: fngoofy: We are sooo headed towards WWIII.
European Union is farked.
Spain is farked.
Here in the US we don't know which way is up and believe all the crazy that is thrown at us.

Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger.

Apocolypse Now aside, I really don't see how Catalonia breaking off will jeopardize the EU.


 Turning and turning in the widening gyre
 The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
 Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
 Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
 The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
 The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
 The best lack all conviction, while the worst
 Are full of passionate intensity.
 
2017-10-05 10:21:33 AM  
They should should just block off the access to the brick and wood tiles.  they'll never get out of the early game and you've got it made. duh
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2017-10-05 10:21:34 AM  

Comic Book Guy: fngoofy: We are sooo headed towards WWIII.
European Union is farked.
Spain is farked.
Here in the US we don't know which way is up and believe all the crazy that is thrown at us.

Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger.

Apocolypse Now aside, I really don't see how Catalonia breaking off will jeopardize the EU.


Considering the Catalans want to remain in the EU neither do I.
 
2017-10-05 10:23:55 AM  

BigNumber12: Voting to secede from your country and potentially spark a military occupation and/or civil war?

Organisers of Sunday's referendum put the turnout at 42%

Catalans: "Meh, who gives a shiat?"


I wonder how many didn't vote because they didn't want to get beat up by the police. I think the low turnout number would be more meaningful had the central government not taken steps to suppress the vote.
 
2017-10-05 10:24:22 AM  
Catalan!
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2017-10-05 10:24:50 AM  
Catalan.

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At one time it was a type of shiny plastic used to make radios.
 
2017-10-05 10:24:57 AM  
The Spanish military is no joke but it's not the American military. I'm going to guess the local citizenry can put up a decent fight against the occupying force
 
2017-10-05 10:25:16 AM  

MythDragon: You mean we won't be able to use those boats that have the two pontoons with the fabric stretched between them that you sit on anymore?


No, that's a type of boat. Subby is talking about a table-top game with cards and settlers and schtuff.
 
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